Hey,
Been looking into buying a tablet and the rcent price drop is making the Nook HD+ an attactive option. I want a stock android experience though, particularly looking for the functionality of multiple user accounts and HDMI outputing to a monitor. My big concern with the Nook is that it's not going to provide a fast, stable android experience (running from SD card must slow performance?).
I'm weighing this against the Sony Experia Z tablet, which is roughly twice the price... take away the great screen / price and I'm wondering if the Nook has anything else going for it? Thoughts?
My usage is mainly going to be watching Netflix, internet, using Evernote and other writing related apps (hence need to output to monitor for lengthy work / use a bluetooth keyboard). I'd have picked the Google Nexus 7 but no HDMI output kills it off, and the Nexus 10 doesn't seem to be widely available in the UK (I prefer to buy from places with exteneded warranties and the Nexus 10 only seems to be selling directly from Google).
Thanks.
Snoogy said:
Hey,
Been looking into buying a tablet and the rcent price drop is making the Nook HD+ an attactive option. I want a stock android experience though, particularly looking for the functionality of multiple user accounts and HDMI outputing to a monitor. My big concern with the Nook is that it's not going to provide a fast, stable android experience (running from SD card must slow performance?).
My usage is mainly going to be watching Netflix, internet, using Evernote and other writing related apps (hence need to output to monitor for lengthy work / use a bluetooth keyboard).
Thanks.
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I am running CM10.1 on emmc and it is fast and 99% stable(no reboots so far but has some minor technical issues like random screen flickering in settings screen which does not always happen.) I would not pay full price for the device. However, if you can get it for around $145 to $179 USD it is hard to beat for the 1920x1280 display and reasonable amount of horsepower. I think for movies and simple apps--reading, writing and web browsing it's perfect. For gaming it is okay but still lag behind Nexus 7. HDMI is available but you need to buy a specialized adapter so it will add to your costs. I tried the CM10 and CM10.1 on an SD card as proof of concept but the web browsing performance sucked....
I did Vellamo HTML5 benchmark with CM10.1 on emmc and scored very impressive score of 1861.
I think I'll use Nexus 7 for my gaming needs (when it's not occupied by my kids) and Nook HD+ for web, movies, and books.
I have a free Kindle Fire HD for HDMI output...(when kids not using it...) The KFHD HDMI cable is cheaper..
But it's much harder to get "stock Android experience" with Kindle Fire HD.
Hope the above info helps.
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I am running CM10.1 on emmc and it is fast and 99% stable(no reboots so far but has some minor technical issues like random screen flickering in settings screen which does not always happen.) I would not pay full price for the device. However, if you can get it for around $145 to $179 USD it is hard to beat for the 1920x1280 display and reasonable amount of horsepower. I think for movies and simple apps--reading, writing and web browsing it's perfect. For gaming it is okay but still lag behind Nexus 7. HDMI is available but you need to buy a specialized adapter so it will add to your costs. I tried the CM10 and CM10.1 on an SD card as proof of concept but the web browsing performance sucked....
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...to add to the above, the build quality is good, appears to be similar to my nook color which has held up very well. The stock rom is usable now that gApps and the play store is on it. The stock rom also has very good battery standby, like in the multiple days range. The negatives are no cameras or GPS but I've never really seen the utility in those if you already have a smart phone. The other negative is that stock rom is pretty customized towards being an E-reader and media consumption device with the B&N store baked into the UI. The big + is the uSD slot for expansion and the ability to boot off it & install CM
I have just got my second Nook HD+ 32GB from Game in the UK for £130 Used with 12 months warranty ( if they last that long Game that is )
Great tablet scores just over 3000 in quadrant the nexus 7 32gb is around 3600.
I have the Google Play store update and I have installed the Free version of the Apex Launcher, that makes it look like stock Android.
Only returned my Brand new one as had charging problem.
its not the fastest at loading web pages but it does work and I feel the screen size @ 9" is very good at Full HD res.
Around 28 GB left on the storage. but MicroSD slot so films etc can go on that. As it still will not allow apps to SD.
Some Popular Games do not install.
But for Web browsering its great and in the UK its only £189 at PC World with a £20 store credit
Games look great films do to.
I have used the N2A and I found it very buggy and slow, I installed in onto a Sd card make and speed they said and it kept slowing right down and hanging for a while.
Just install Apex and you should find it like most other Android Tablets.
CEX in the UK do the 32gb version around 120-145 still with 12 months warranty plus you can trade in too.
For the Money its a Very good by. The closest to it brand new for the money here is a Galaxy tab 2 7, which only has 4gb free memory. to what I payed for it used
Thanks for the info. So, in short, running Android from SD card won't provide smooth performance but installing to emmc (which will void warranty) turns it into a fine android tablet... alternatively, use a launcher app to make the stock rom look more android like (but some apps won't work with the nook os).
Went in store to look at one yesterday and the screen was great, but looking at the 10.1 inch tablets I think I'm going to get one of them instead. Either the Asus Memo Pad, Galaxy Note or Sony Experia. The Asus and Samsung screens are not as sharp but I didn't find the lower pixels per inch to be as obvious as I expected.
Still, the Nook price still makes it a really strong consideration...!
Now nook has google play and chrome etc in lastest update it is a andriod tablet, the nook default front end not good. But with apex it seem to work better.
I have had a number of tablets and not all of them can install all apps etc from google play.
I had the tegra 3 based memo 10.1 and the screen is only same res as the nexus 7 and its slower for some strange reason. Mine went back as it would not charge while turned off. As the makers said it should.
But the Nook hd + needs to be on while charging lol.
Like I said the 9" is a nice size to hold and its not that heavy.
But if you want to play high end games then get tegra 3 based tablet.
You cannot go wrong for the money.
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Also gta 3 and vice city do install
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I have a review channel on youtube under atc9000 I can do a nook hd+ review in the next few days if that helps you ?
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Now nook has google play and chrome etc in lastest update it is a andriod tablet, the nook default front end not good. But with apex it seem to work better.
But if you want to play high end games then get tegra 3 based tablet.
You cannot go wrong for the money.
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I tried a different launcher with stock which helped a bit but still a few annoying things -- library syncing message while playing game, no standard 3 buttons,...,etc. Also system settings are very limited. CM10.1 RC1 and RC2 both ran very well on emmc...for warranty, it is good to have a backup to restore to stock if needed, or an image of stock rom will do.
Gaming performance - per Epic Citadel 3D benchmark it's about 20% FPS reduction from Nexus 7. But to be fair, Nexus 7 has a much lower resolution so it's not completely apple to apple comparison. Unfortunately the FPS is even worse if you lower the resolution on Nook HD+.
So gaming experience is definitely better on N7.
For web browsing I used Vellamo HTML5 benchmark. Stock has almost identical performance as Nexus 7. But with CM10.1, surprisingly out performed Nexus 7 stock by about 40%. Web browsing with CM10.1 works really well actually.
Finally, the deciding factor---#1 is the price. #2, I checked a few 10" tablets at Best Buy including iPad and Transformer Infinity, they are nice but noticeably heavier than Nook HD+. For the primary purpose I want to use a 10" tablet for---web, reading, movies, and light gaming, it is the right one for the right price. So it really depends on the use cases.
One difference using CM10.1 with Nook HD+ vs CM10.1 on a phone is that Nook HD+ has much less functionalities therefore easier to run a custom rom with. On a phone there are so many more functionalities and usually there is always a feature or two that you need to give up or may have issues when running a custom rom. (FM radio, Wi-Fi calling...,etc.)
Of course, that's also thanks to verygreen and other xda developers who did a tremendous job porting CM10.1 to Nook HD+.
Nook HD+ overall rocks for the price. I use it more now than my way more expensive iPad 4.....
Plays all of my media as good as my other tablets, Flash plays great and ditto for most games, beyond a few like Asphalt 7 and NFSMW that load unusually super slow (makes no sense, since no others tested seem to be as bad).
Plays all my emulators better than my other tablets and blue tooth gamepads work great as well. IMO, even at $300 this is a better buy than the TF700.
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Nook HD+ overall rocks for the price. I use it more now than my way more expensive iPad 4.....
Plays all my emulators better than my other tablets and blue tooth gamepads work great as well. IMO, even at $300 this is a better buy than the TF700.
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tf700 has stronger cpus but it's plagued by poor io. Xda members have reported Nook HD+ having as much as 3x better ios(on emmc) than tf700...Nook HD+ still has minor glitches once in a while(likely hardware related) but can be fixed by turning off and turning on the display.
But I agree it's better than tf700 because tf700 is somewhat buggy to the same extent. And the price is less than half of tf700.
There is just one thing other than the CPU that the tf700 is much better than Nook....that's the availability of official updates.
(less camera and gps which I don't need)
Asus is providing software updates much more often than B&N for sure and will likely continue to do so.
That's another good reason to use CM10.1 because stock almost has 0 possibility of getting even 4.1 update...
Snoogy said:
Hey,
Been looking into buying a tablet and the rcent price drop is making the Nook HD+ an attactive option. I want a stock android experience though, particularly looking for the functionality of multiple user accounts and HDMI outputing to a monitor.... My usage is mainly going to be watching Netflix....
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I'm not quite clear from your post if you want HDMI output for watching Netflix. If so, the video out is great, but, at least running CM10.1 on emmc, there is no audio out on the HDMI. So if you want to watch movies on your home theater system, the only sound you'll get is from the tiny nook speaker. That'll probably get cleared up as the Devs have time to figure it out, but, if you're still considering the nook, I wanted to point that out, since I hadn't seen in mentioned in any of the other replies.
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tf700 has stronger cpus but it's plagued by poor io. Xda members have reported Nook HD+ having as much as 3x better ios(on emmc) than tf700...Nook HD+ still has minor glitches once in a while(likely hardware related) but can be fixed by turning off and turning on the display.
But I agree it's better than tf700 because tf700 is somewhat buggy to the same extent. And the price is less than half of tf700.
There is just one thing other than the CPU that the tf700 is much better than Nook....that's the availability of official updates.
(less camera and gps which I don't need)
Asus is providing software updates much more often than B&N for sure and will likely continue to do so.
That's another good reason to use CM10.1 because stock almost has 0 possibility of getting even 4.1 update...
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TF300 has the same issue, though not as burdened due to half the pixels for the GPU to push. I always thought it was the Tegra 3, but the Excite 7.7 has a Tegra 3 and is not laggy like the TF300 and is very fast. There is a Quake emulator called "Quake Touch" that was released and is great, BTW. The Open GL game plays perfectly & fast on the Excite, S3 and HD+, but is SLOOOOW on the TF300.
There is also a new app called Quake 2 Touch which is also great and works fine on the TF300 as well. The issue though is how the data is pulled for Quake 1. Very old school in that is pulls data bits and pieces. This would stick out on a device with i/o issues.
The HD+ plus though is not out of the woods, since the game loads up in two seconds or less on the Excite and S3, but a little slower on the TF300 and a LOT slower on the HD+. The slow file load issues like Quake 2, Asphalt 7 and NFSMW make no apparent sense. None the less, Quake 1 and 2 play better on the HD+ than the TF300.
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I'm now the proud owner of a Nook HD. It's my second android device (phone is a GS3) and my fourth device for which I have sought guidance in this incredible forum. After perusing the Nook section of this site, I felt like I needed to reflect on why I chose this device.
1. I need to read more...again. I used to read all of the time. I'm a high school English teacher, so I have a passion for reading. However, like so many of my teenage students, I am easily distracted. I thought that I would read on my iPad, but that didn't happen since there are so many great games out for tablets. As a father of a 3-year old, my time and energy has seemed to be more prone to go to a mindless video game for a few minutes of gameplay rather than delve deep into a classic from one of my favorite authors. So, I'm hoping my Nook HD is the answer I need for this. Since it is smaller, maybe I'll have it along with my more often so I can read more often. Also, since B&N doesn't seem to have any intention of competing with iOS on the scale of game offerings, I won't be tempted to play N.O.V.A. or Modern Combat over reading Eliot.
2. 7" seems to really be the perfect size for a reading tablet. Sorry HD+ owners, you're not going to like this point. If that HD+ is your first tablet, I hope you will at least heed or remember my thoughts here. My iPad (or any 10" screen) is too big to read on enjoyably. I've had an iPad for almost 2 years and I have spent many hours reading on it. It's an amazing device for things like producing writing, annotating essays, playing games, or watching movies, but the size of the blessed thing is just not ideal for reading*. Think about it, why are most paperbacks around 6-8" tall? I think it's because you naturally read faster and more easily when your eyes don't have to travel too far up an down the pages. A 7" tablet has the same effect. After reading on my HD for a while today, I can honestly say that the reading experience seems easier and more natural. Plus, being able to hold it with one hand makes it more convenient as well.
*I also looked at a couple magazines on my Nook HD and I will say the 10" screens are more suited for that. Looking at Entertainment Weekly caused some eyestrain. I suppose that's one reason B&N invented Article View.
So, that's my spiel. Feel free to concur or show obloquy as desired.
I got the HD because:
1) It had faster benchmarks than the Nexus 7
2) It had a better resolution and an overall better screen than the Nexus 7
3) It was rootable
4) I originally paid $180, but then returned it and got it for $149 at Staples
5) Nexus 7 16GB was not available anywhere.
Overall, I am very happy with the little tablet. I got my wife the HD+ at Staples for $199. She's not so happy with it, so I'll have two tablets and she'll end up getting the iPad Mini when the retina version comes out since her first gen iPad is getting outdated. Both the HD and HD+ were rooted but updated to 2.0.5, but Play still works. I was able to sideload Chrome since Play shows it incompatible. I also have them both booting to CM10 which has been pretty stable so far.
I agree about the 7" size. I have a 10" android tablet for playing games and surfing the web. I got the HD for reading. I rooted it to put other reading apps on it and so it can be more of an all-around device when necessary.
I get the HD+ for the size and resolution. I use the size for reading manga, smaller would just make it not very readable. Also I already have a Note II which is 5.5inches. So getting HD is kinda redundant. Also I found that using the HD+ connecting to my notebook using iDisplay to show my pictures when I'm working on them is quite useful.
Obviously 7inch and 9inch are aim at different type of consumers.
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I get the HD+ for the size and resolution. I use the size for reading manga, smaller would just make it not very readable. Also I already have a Note II which is 5.5inches. So getting HD is kinda redundant. Also I found that using the HD+ connecting to my notebook using iDisplay to show my pictures when I'm working on them is quite useful.
Obviously 7inch and 9inch are aim at different type of consumers.
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Those are good points. Like I said in my op, magazines are a bit small on the HD, so I'm sure the HD+ is better for anything illustrated.
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The HD+ gives a quite nice two-column reading experience in landscape. I would have stuck with something smaller if comic books and magazines were lower on my priority list, but my old Nook Color always felt a bit cramped for those. I've honestly been on a comic book and audio book jag ever since I got the HD+ and not reading much in the way of straight text.
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Good idea. Title changed to help that type of buyer searching.
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Even if the title weren't change it just mean people would look at the remarks and can tell, that maybe there is something they want to do and HD isn't good at but HD+ does better. It's no confusing at all. Reasons to buy alone isn't very informative w/o reasons not to buy. Information is information, period.
I went from Sony Reader to Kindle 3 to Nook Tablet to Nook HD+.
Nook Tablet is perfect size for reading books and bringing along with me--I agree with you there.
I read lots of magazines in PDF format. That's the main reason I went with the bigger HD+. I've grown accustomed to the size now and like the bigger screen.
Hardback books are about the size of the HD+, and I have always liked Hardback covers over paperbacks. So my yin to your yang.
However I have yet to use this thing for anything but video and some light music.
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Has anyone here tried the Kindle Fire HD 8.9 also?
I'm on the fence between a Kindle Fire HD 8.9 and a Nook HD+. I wasn't sure if I wanted a 7" or 9" at first but I think I need a 9" because I mostly will want to use it to look at PDF tech manuals and CAD schematic drawings when I'm on the go crawling around in areas where it is inconvenient to carry a laptop. Aside from that, its nice to have something to use on the plane or sitting around at the airport.
The main differences I see are:
Kindle: thinner (barely), has mimo wifi (don't know if its a real diff), camera (already have a phone camera), micro usb (don't have to buy proprietary connectors), ambient light sensor (might save some batt)
Nook: lighter (not by much), higher ppi (barely), external storage (although I'm not sure if I really need it)
Price is about the same if I look on ebay. Software is the same if I put on CM10, although I'm not sure if the kindle is as far along.
For me, seems like the biggest diff is the micro usb vs the external storage, and maybe the weight, hard to know how important 2.4oz is. I suspect that the external storage won't really be needed so if the weight isnt a big diff, I think I may lean towards the kindle.
I'd be interested in any other important differences people have noticed.
There is more difference between the Nook HD and Nexus 7 than some people think. The Nook HD provides the main essentials like good screen etc but has very limited sensors.
The nexus 7 is like a phone and has a full collection of sensors like an ambient light sensor, gyroscope, GPS, compass, proximity sensor, camera + more.
These sensors can be useful in some circumstances. Gyro is good for games and alot better than an accelerometer
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There is more difference between the Nook HD and Nexus 7 than some people think. The Nook HD provides the main essentials like good screen etc but has very limited sensors.
The nexus 7 is like a phone and has a full collection of sensors like an ambient light sensor, gyroscope, GPS, compass, proximity sensor, camera + more.
These sensors can be useful in some circumstances. Gyro is good for games and alot better than an accelerometer
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Yes, if you only have one tablet/smartphone device the choice is harder. However, I have a smartphone and a 10" android tablet. I wanted a light reader with added functionality. I fell in love with the nook HD screen as I am a screen-o-phile and can't go back to TN displays with poor color representation. The Nook HD has fantastic colors as well as a good resolution. Images just pop. I think it has over 90% adobe RGB gamut which is better than the nexus 7 (86% if I recall correctly) along with a better resolution.
Now resolution is not everything. The next gen ipad certainly has a ridiculous resolution that requires an overpowered GPU for most purposes ... that is all purposes except reading where every bit of resolution helps to discern text. Likewise, the extra bit of resolution on the Nook HD really makes it a good reader.
The Nook HD is also very light and has removable storage which is a HUGE plus for me. All the major tablet/phone manufacturers charge like 100-200 bucks more for pennies worth of Nand. 720p screens require at least 32gb to enjoy videos and media at that resolution IMO.
Overall, I am very happy with my purchase. B&N produced a quality product at a good price. They did shortchange in certain areas (no camera, no sensors), but I don't care about camera as almost all of them suck anyways in 7" tablets (especially the front ones) and the sensors are kind of a pain but I already have a smartphone so what do I care?
The Nook HD is a fantastic reader and secondary tablet. Hopefully with some more work on CM10/10.1, it will be a better primary one too.
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720p screens require at least 32gb to enjoy videos and media at that resolution IMO.
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Can you clarify what you mean by this?
a 720p video file certainly isnt 32gb. maybe 1gb per movie depending on quality
It may take more memory to play it but the memory has nothing to do with the 32gb storage.
As for sensors, I dont care about the camera. GPS would be nice but the kindle doesnt have it either.
I don't see the use of a proximity sensor. The gyro is needed for some games. and the light sensor is somewhat important to output the right amount of brightness.
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Can you clarify what you mean by this?
a 720p video file certainly isnt 32gb. maybe 1gb per movie depending on quality
It may take more memory to play it but the memory has nothing to do with the 32gb storage.
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A decently compressed feature-length 720p movie will range from 1.5-4GB depending on encoding, and a straight rip without decent compression might run 6-8GB or more. If you want to have more than one such movie on your tablet and maybe a couple of TV episodes as well as other media (magazines, PDFs, comics) it piles up fast. I don't even watch many videos on my tablet, and getting by on less than 32GB for what is essentially a media portal would be a pain.
Most 720p movies I've watched are in the 1-1.5 range. Beyond that I havent noticed alot of difference but maybe that's just me. Regardless, I don't see myself watching alot of movies on this and I wouldn't need to store more than one or two at a time. My primary purpose would be using it when it is inconvenient to carry my laptop like when I'm out in the field and need to pull up a pdf manual and/or cad drawings. This does not require much storage space.
It does sound like the trade is between the piece of mind of being able to upgrade storage and having a couple more sensors + the convenience of a microUSB.
i agree that 7" is a darn good size for reading and on hand holding, but i occasionally do things other than reading and 7" kinda limited me. i upgraded my galaxy tab 8.9 to this device. i do have a 10.1 galaxy note but do find that one too big for reading most of the times. it's not heavy, just awkward holding with one hand while laying down reading.
The 7" form factor is great, but even as much as I like expandable storage and getting every last possible pixel per inch, the Nook HD just doesn't stand up to the Nexus 7 in that market. The 32GB N7 is at least adequate in storage, and only $20 more than a 16GB Nook HD. The PPI difference is not that major, they're about the same weight with equally generic design, but the N7 has considerably more powerful innards, a full sensor array, and it's already a Nexus device: no hacking required. You'd have to really, really like the Nook HD display and see limited functionality as a positive thing--I could maybe see it if you were buying with young children in mind.
The HD+, on the other hand, has only one competitor within 30-40% of the asking price, and that one (the Kindle 8.9") is still asking more for less. Like the Nook Color when that device came out, the HD+ is the best screen for the money right now and also happens to have a distinctive design, not just because there's a hole in it but because it has a unified aesthetic other than "fat black bezel."
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The 7" form factor is great, but even as much as I like expandable storage and getting every last possible pixel per inch, the Nook HD just doesn't stand up to the Nexus 7 in that market. The 32GB N7 is at least adequate in storage, and only $20 more than a 16GB Nook HD. The PPI difference is not that major, they're about the same weight with equally generic design, but the N7 has considerably more powerful innards, a full sensor array, and it's already a Nexus device: no hacking required. You'd have to really, really like the Nook HD display and see limited functionality as a positive thing--I could maybe see it if you were buying with young children in mind.
The HD+, on the other hand, has only one competitor within 30-40% of the asking price, and that one (the Kindle 8.9") is still asking more for less. Like the Nook Color when that device came out, the HD+ is the best screen for the money right now and also happens to have a distinctive design, not just because there's a hole in it but because it has a unified aesthetic other than "fat black bezel."
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This had way top many overgeneralizations for me to ignore. For one, the storage difference is significant. For the same price I can get a nook HD with a 64gb micro SD card as a 32gb nexus.
The PPI difference is still significant. I compared both devices directly and the nook HD had better color accuracy and sharper text. 900p is actually over 25% more pixels than 800p. It is a huge difference for reading and text-based media consumption.
Weight is also very important for me at this form factor and given my usage patterns. The nook HD is the lightest device in its class and feels even lighter than my phone. I feel weight definitely matters especially for a device meant to be held and used as a replacement novel unlike say an iPad which can reasonably be expected to be laid down or held upright by a case instead.
Powerful is relative. The tegra 3 GPU is seriously underwhelming to adreno and mali. I know, I own a transformer infinity. For most virtually every process the nook HD is just as smooth as the nexus 7 which is all that really matters, not epeen statements about power. Devices need only be powerful enough for their intended use.
Nexus devices are definitely nice but so is cynmogen mod. Nook HD definitely takes more work to enjoy. Sensors are also irrelevant if you use them. How man people do you know actually use the cameras on their tablet for example. How about GPS? Having the option is definitely nice but irrelevant in most cases to the vast majority of people.
Its ironic that you mention the hd+ as being better. I found using it underwhelming. After having owned the infinity, I know how hard it is for current gen tech to power full HD displays. The nook HD+ was very slow at loading PDFs in store and kind of clunky in terms of performance. Understandable as even my infinity lags with an over clocked tegra 3. A nook HD was however completely smooth for me.
To each his own, but I think the nook HD is a much better device for me than a nexus 7. Even if I didn't ave a larger tablet, I would have gotten a nook.
In my opinion tablets are all about screen first, practicality second, and smoothness second. The nook HD does a better job at being a media consumption device than the nexus 7 across many metrics.
The other review was for the device in general. This gets into actual performance. I prefer that over synthetic benchmarks and not knowing what weight their parameters used to create a score. Real deal works for me
Video playback (Great): 4470 is robust for video support. As good as my Tegra 3 tabs. (Excite 7.7 & TF300)
Flash performance (Great): Creating a boot image and flashing the Rev3 zip enabled unknown source installs. Flash 11.1 works so good, it makes you wonder why Adobe caved on HTML 5. The 4470 handles Flash well.
Audio playback (Good): The audio playback is impacted due to low gain output. This was corrected by using Volume+ and adjusting the headset and also the speaker output. It now sounds as good as my other tabs.
Books & comics (Great): As good as my iPad4
Gaming (Great):
N64oid = A little faster than my Tegra 3 tabs
ePSX = Ditto
MAME4reloaded = Ditto
GTA & Vice City = Both play as good as my other tabs.
Modern Warfare 3 = Ditto
NOVA 3 = Ditto
Asphalt 7 = Ditto
Blitz Brigade = Ditto (BTW, please get this game!) Online play quality was fine.
House of the Dead = Ditto
I tested other games and same result- The Nook HD+ is as good as my other tablets, but a little faster with CPU hungry game emulators. Considering the pixels the 4470 gpu has to push is twice the other devices, that is IMO pretty good. I was surprised to notice the right corner got real warm, but not BAKING like the A500 would (I returned that due to heat and awful wifi range). I expected that due to the size and pixels being pushed it would get real hot.
Battery life is as good as my other tablets (good). As mentioned in the other review though, the battery bleed rate while in sleep mode is far and away the best of any Android device I have used. No comparison- just one percentage point over each night. The only tablet that trumps it I have used is the iPad 4, which use one point over several days.
The Nook HD+ is now my favorite tablet that I have used. I consider it to some degree, equal to my much higher cost iPad 4 (128gb). Considering what I paid for the iPad, I kind of feel sick..... Overall though, my iPad 4 is still the best- Faster with apps and amazing battery life. When considering cost though, the Nook HD+ even at $300 would be a great buy. Simply put, the Nook HD+ with Google Play and the few noted mods kicks some serious booty! :victory:
Huh? I had a Nexus 7 and have an iPad 4. My Nook HD+ is no where remotely comparable to those two tablets in performance. Are you running a stock Nook HD+ or is this with some custom ROM?
I think the Nook HD+ is an okay tablet for $180. But I find... mine at least... to be a bit slow.
2.1 stock. There is no magic bullet for the chipset. I find all Tegra 3 devices to perform similarly. The stock N7 is no better for games or emulators than any other I have tried, which is a lot.
I did not compare performance with the iPad and clearly state the iPad is faster than Android tablets.
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I stand corrected. I see what you mean now. While the Nook does install and update apps far faster than any device I have owned and games tested play fine and emulators fast- the file system for actually starting apps seems slower. Especially large data apps. Not sure how I did not pick up on this before. I did not notice until I went below 3Gb and the device got VERY slow. Even after freeing more storage games load up slow and the UI like you said is slower. My focus was on game and Flash performance, so overlooked everything else. Still a great device for smaller data games, Flash web and video. Just big games seem a file access issue.
Did nova 3 have effects like on ios devices? Nook hd + is a good gaming tablet?
NOVA 3 plays smooth on the HD+. I have most recent CM 10.1 update and new gsx drivers Verygreen posted.
All games now work that I posted did not in the past. Also, the only game that loads slow is Asphalt 7 and turns out the most recent update is slow loading on all Android devices I have tested. I have it on the iPad as well, but loads much quicker on that.
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Huh? I had a Nexus 7 and have an iPad 4. My Nook HD+ is no where remotely comparable to those two tablets in performance. Are you running a stock Nook HD+ or is this with some custom ROM?
I think the Nook HD+ is an okay tablet for $180. But I find... mine at least... to be a bit slow.
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It's really getting there now. Use the latest carbon build and UI performance is not quite so sucky... Although much better without a high res wallpaper right now. It certainly gets used a lot more than my N7. The web browsing performance is very similar, but the big screen is much better.
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Barnes & Noble have started Father's Day Sale
Nook HD+ 16 GB - $149
Nook HD+ 32 GB - $179
Nook HD 8 GB - $129
Nook HD 16 GB - $149
Free shipping on all devices.
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Barnes & Noble have started Father's Day.
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Thanks...I should have waited to save $30. But it has been fun playing with it for a month so time is money.
shadabt said:
Barnes & Noble have started Father's Day Sale
Nook HD+ 16 GB - $149
Nook HD+ 32 GB - $179
Nook HD 8 GB - $129
Nook HD 16 GB - $149
Free shipping on all devices.
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I saw this and started to poke around this forum. Seems like it's a pretty decent little tablet. I'd ask how you folks feel about it but since you're already owners the opinion may be a little biased.
Seems like too good of a deal to pass up!
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Hmmm... Maybe now my wife can have the iPad.
My wife decided to get the HD+ 32GB for me as an early Father's Day present. She was worried that they'd fly off the store shelves at that price.
The tablet updates twice after initial install to get to the latest version. Google Play is an awesome addition, however a lot of the really popular apps already have Nook versions. So if you install the version from the Play store, you'll see two version in the apps menu.
just picked up another 32
Great deal on these.
Just got one Saturday also.. too good of a deal to pass up. enjoying it for the most part so far... i like that google play come with it now.
my only real issue is trying to rearrange items on the screen is terrible! You cant tell when its ready move (like with iPhone/iPad.. they wiggle.. this.. nothing) and its hard to line them up . i have other questions, but will start a new thread
Just heard about this promo. I was going to get a Kindle Paperwhite for Father's day. But, for $10 more (I didn't want to deal with the ads, or hacking it at all, so I was going to get the $139 version) the Nook HD+ seems like a much better value.
I have a HP TouchPad, don't use it as much as I did when I first got it. I have my phone for apps and web browsing. I was going to replace an aging 1st gen Nook I got at a yard sale for $10. My main use is as an eReader. I wasn't looking forward to converting all my epubs to the Kindle format. With Google Play access I don't really even see a need to Root and CM the tablet, but I would need to use the device to make that decision.
Those that have one already, how are they for eReading? I was looking forward to better battery life on the Kindle, because the Nook I have needs to be charged at least once a week whether I use it that week or not. I can put up with that battery life on a tablet that can browse the web, watch videos etc, but as an eReader that has been a pain.
But, for $149, worst case is the kids no longer have to fight over the TouchPad.
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That's the best part of this tablet. I feel B&N intentionally downgraded the capabilities of the hardware to make it more a reader and less a tablet.
If you only use it for reading you may be able to tolerate the stock rom. (Though you may get 30%-40% boost on some web browsing with CM10.1) For book reading you can check this review at 7:14 or so (try the HD version of the video--more accurate)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtTvNsgJR4I
I use it mainly for reading and web but tried online streaming videos for few minutes(on CM10.1) and they seem to work fine.
Battery life is also very good (was told the deep sleep is a strong feature in stock rom, the feature was later implemented in the CM builds)
I really love the nice screen for reading books and tech manuals. Mobi and epub books work the best. PDF books are good but could be better...
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I saw this and started to poke around this forum. Seems like it's a pretty decent little tablet. I'd ask how you folks feel about it but since you're already owners the opinion may be a little biased.
Seems like too good of a deal to pass up!
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Been looking for a tablet to use to transition from iOS development to Android development, so I snapped one up Sunday when I saw the deal. Liked it enough that I picked up another for my daughter today. Will leave her's stock, but mine is running CM10.1 and works great.
Thoughts on Nook HD+ after owning it for 8 hours.
Screen: 9.5/10. 8.9" IPS Panel with 1920x1280 Resolution. Gorgeous screen. Sensitivity does not seem to the best. 10/10
Performance: 7/10. Solid enough with OMAP 4470. Feels lightly sluggish in operation, possibly due to the amount of pixels that needs to be pushed. Someone comment? We all know that OMAP 4430/4460 can push out CM 10.1 flawlessly in many devices. Is it our pixel count or the lack of optimization the builds?
Build/Design: 8/10. Plasticity but refined.
OS: 6/10. CM 10.1 for this device is mature enough, but lacks polish. Stock OS lags to high noon. Might need another few months to work out more kinks.
Value: 9.5/10 at $150. I bought this tablet for the screen and was satisfied.
First of all, Very and Leap- you two rock something fierce!
I did a review before of the HD+ with 2.1. I gave it a good review, but three things slowly eroded my opinion after time and I returned it.
1- Intermittent stutter that seemed to correlate with on the fly data loads and library sync. This stood out with games.
2- Games loading slow and some REAL sloooooow
3- Accumulative lag. Over a few days, the device got real slow and cache cleaning and restarts were hit and miss to fix it.
Best Buy had it on sale for $20 less this time ($180), so based on folks opinion of CM 10.1, I thought I would test it out again- due to the price and sweet display.
Where 2.1 was a big improvement over 2.0, the improvement from 2.1 to CM 10.1 is fluken' huge!
1- The intermittent stutter is gone along with library sync is gone.
2- Games load a LOT faster. I would not have thought the stock rom would be what was slowing it down, but I tested fresh installs two times with the same sloooow results with 2.1.
3- So far, the accumulated lag has not showed up.
4- Overall device is faster
I also added the "full screen" app to get rid of the navigation bar when I want. More just to test it out, but nice to have an iPad like full display view
Jeepers, it is wild how it is so easy to flash the device with 10.1 and equally wild to have the results of 10.1 with this hardware for the price. Superb so far
Of course, with anything in life comes the negatives:
1- exFAT worked with 2.1, but does not with CM 10.1. I had to transfer, format and recopy back to the sd card with FAT32. I wish there was a simple install fix using the boot card like the unknown sources fix for stock 2.1.
2- Buggy Blitz does not work. I love that game Ditto for Shine Runner. Same company.
3- I have had one instance so far where the device had charged and there was a flashing green light. The device would not wake up with neither home or power button. I had to hold the power down for a while and repeat that a few times. It would get stuck on the spinning boot-up ring. It would freeze up after after "several" seconds. Seems to be working now, but this never happened with stock 2.1 and used the device for a month. Fluke?
4- Quake 3 keeps expecting to see "sdcard" rather than "sdcard0". Touch Quake 1, 2 and Quake Arena mods work fine though. These are examples of games that loaded SLOW with stock 2.1, but are near instant with CM 10.1.
5- The CM 10.1 launcher was jittery and slow. I tried to get used to it, but went back to Nova, which is smooth and fast.
Folks, Nook HD+ plus CM 10.1 equals insane value for the price!
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1- exFAT worked with 2.1, but does not with CM 10.1. I had to transfer, format and recopy back to the sd card with FAT32. I wish there was a simple install fix using the boot card like the unknown sources fix for stock 2.1.
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there's 3rd party zip you can flash that restores it somewhat..
I also plan to look into this eventually and use texera fat module from the stock rom.
2- Buggy Blitz does not work. I love that game
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That seems to be their bug related to new sgx drivers. Same crash happens on Kindle fire, for example. Nothing I can presently do about it.
3- I have had one instance so far where the device had charged and there was a flashing green light. The device would not wake up with neither home or power button. I had to hold the power down for a while and repeat that a few times. It would get stuck on the spinning boot-up ring. It would freeze up after after "several" seconds. Seems to be working now, but this never happened with stock 2.1 and used the device for a month. Fluke?
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Not sore about not waking up - never saw that. But rare boot problems will be fixed in next release. (esp. those that produce garbage on screen).
Folks, Nook HD+ plus CM 10.1 equals insane value for the price!
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Still no camera, so it cannot serve as full TP replacement
No problem on the games not working, since works on my Excite 7.7 and S3!
Exfat and NTFS would be nice, down the road!
Thanks!
I think B&N could have done much better with this hardware if they hired someone like verygreen in the first place...
I still don't think this is a very good gaming device, though, especially for 3D.
But the screen is amazing and got me really spoiled. Now I look at Nexus 7 and feel the display is too cheap and low in quality. Comparing it with the TP in my opinion is a bit of an apple to orange comparison as it is mainly a media consumption device while TP's display quality is even worse than Nexus 7.
Someone was complaining the Nook being slow and laggy vs a $499 Galaxy Note 10.1 with 2GB ram, quad core and much lower resolution. That is just unfair. But I guess people are entitled to their opinions.
Honestly I would not have bought this without seeing the CM10 and CM10.1 ports in progress. B&N really owes verygreen a commission. I like this combo so much that I hardly touch my Nexus 7 now.
BTW, donation sent.
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Comparing it with the TP in my opinion is a bit of an apple to orange comparison as it is mainly a media consumption device while TP's display quality is even worse than Nexus 7.
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While I somewhat agree here, in reality I distributed Touchpads to my relative and they use them for things like Skype.
Nook, having no camera, cannot replace them and would be useless for such purposes.
I agree that the Nook has deficiencies (proprietary ports are a downer). When it comes to cheap toys we pick our poison, eg Nexus w/ no SD slot. If I want a cam or HDMI, there are a flood of cheap 7" tabs that have both, but none of them has a really great 1080p screen in an IMO perfect size and weight for one-handed use. I don't see any tablet with comparable display quality under $400.
Display quality aside, as a reader my preference is for a 4:3 aspect, since I use the tab mostly in portrait mode. But outside of the iPads, most Android tabs hewed to 16:10, which makes the display smaller than their diagonal size would indicate. The HD+ is the only one to eschew the norm in going with 3:2. That's actually better than 4:3, because the present Android UI takes off a couple slices at top and bottom, so the remaining space comes out pretty close to 4:3.
Using the dpi calculator here,
http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html
The 9" HD+ screen has a portrait width of 4.99". The 8.9" KF HD's is 4.72", or 0.27" smaller and not just 0.1" shorter diagonal. For tablet display size, every fraction of an inch is a big deal when you're squeezing a whole web page into portrait.
Some other display portrait widths, which I view as the tablet's true size measurement:
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iPad Mini 4.71"
Nexus 7 3.71"
Galaxy Note 8 4.24"
Nexus 10 5.3"
iPad 5.82"
Oh yeah, e.mote: Thanks for the "dummies" thread!
True on the lack of camera, but I got it for books, comics (more than books) and games (mainly emulators). There are a few games that my Excite 7.7 plays smoother, but most play the same and game emulators like MAME and N64 are faster on the Nook HD+. Also, CM 10.1 closed the gap on the 3D games that are smoother on the Excite 7.7. GTA is a good example. It plays smooth now, where with 2.1, it did not. Asphalt 7 though is an example that plays smoother on the Excite. Asphalt 7 though is now very playable on the Nook HD+. The TF700 also struggles with some 3D games, BTW.
For game emulators. this thing rocks. $180 for a great display and plays emulators better than any other Android I have used- including the S4 and its quad Qualcomm. Bluetooth game pads work fine and no response lag noted so far and fits the iCade
Sad that we get the stock firmware we get when folks here do a better job for user experience. I appreciate the Nook was designed to be mainly a reader, but their premise was also part of their undoing and the convention of poor stock firmware goes way beyond the Nook.
>Thanks for the "dummies" thread!
I actually wrote that for myself, since I have a stack of HD+'s here that I'm retrofitting to pass along to the family. Credit where it is due, it's all a rehash of what leapinlar has written, but just a bit more digestible. And of course to verygreen that made this all possible.
Glad to hear Nook is good for games. I'm not a gamer, but other peeps in the household would be appreciative. Any good guides for emulators you can point to? How about some strategy/tactical games? I liked Call of Cthulhu and Rebuild.
BTW, little known factoid: The Nook's serial # is printed on the inside of the SD slot's rubber flap. I found that out when returning a HD+ for uneven backlighting.
>I appreciate the Nook was designed to be mainly a reader, but their premise was also part of their undoing and the convention of poor stock firmware goes way beyond the Nook.
I view it as a good-thing-bad-thing situation. If B&N had made a great Android tab, it wouldn't be holding a firesale to clear out the Nooks, and we wouldn't be here yakking away. So yes, I'm kinda glad the HD's didn't sell well (until now).
Very ironic.
As far as emulator guides, there is a very good one over at Phandroid forums. It is in the Android game forum.
This tablet is an old school gaming, comic reading, web and Flash slinging bargain.
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Very ironic.
As far as emulator guides, there is a very good one over at Phandroid forums. It is in the Android game forum.
This tablet is an old school gaming, comic reading, web and Flash slinging bargain.
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Totally agree. What controller do you use for the emu, though?
I found it extremely difficult to trigger complex moves (in games that require those) using just touch control..... I'm sure it would not be an issue for games that do not require those.
I use a generic Android controller from Gamestop, two Nyko Android pads and iCade. All work fine.
I found another game that worked with 2.1 but not with CM. NBA 2013. Another of my favorites. What are the odds of that? It loads to the point of showing the team logos at start up and then crashes.
Also, most games like NFSMW that took a long time to load up with 2 .1 now load fast like other tablets. The only exception found so far is Asphalt 7. It still loads crazy slow. About two minutes or more per track. Should take about ten seconds. The London level just took over two minutes. Almost three.
The game plays good though. Much smoother (no stutter) than 2.1, but that is the case for all games so far. Odd how Asphalt 7 seems the only slow load hold out. I have tested a ton. A7 appears to be an anomaly.
CM 10.1 BTW also confirms to me the main stutter was not the gpu, but the stock rom. As per Anandtech, the 4470 is still a capable chipset.
I also compared A7 on the GS3. They appear to play very similarly as far as smoothness. GS3 might be a tad smoother, but does not stand out. The GS3 plays all of my games smooth, but the Nook smacks it down as far as MAME. 4470 appears to be a great emulator chipset.
I figured out why a few games do not work. Quake 3 need the files on the SD card and looks like NBA 2013 is trying to run the game from there too. It installs to internal, but installs a directory also in the SD with no files. I am going to move it to the SD and see what happens.
Update. Looks like ports like Quake 3 work fine, but commercial games do not work when moving the files.
With the price going down to 149$ is this a good buy?
My main use is reading books, magazines and occasional browsing with flipboard and pocket.
My main influence is the aspect ratio, since it's more suitable for magazines compared to other android tablets. not to mention the screen size for such price.
With the HD screen, decent cpu, ability to easily root or run cyanogen mod, for the price I think it's very much worth it.
>My main influence is the aspect ratio
My criteria were aspect ratio, size, and ongoing OS support. Nowaday there are many cheap tabs at close to $100 mark, but they're all 7" 16:10 AR, and most without continuing OS support. Thanks to verygreen and other helpful people here, the Nook HD/HD+ will live on past the B&N era. AFAIK, the Nooks--NC, NT, and HDs--are the only cheap tabs to have official CM support.
But as you mentioned it comes down to your uses. 7" is better for travelling, as well as things like GPS, cams, etc, which the Nook lacks. The HD+ is better if simply for its larger size and res, which are optimal for long-form reading and web browsing.
As for pricing, at some point it becomes petty to harp on the few dollars' difference. Yes, there's a big diff between $500 and $200, but $150-vs-200, not so much. Would you be willing to go across town to buy a 15-penny egg vs a 20-penny one here? Price shouldn't be the end-all. But if it comes to that, my last HD+ was a $120 refurb I bought for my mom, and I'm entirely satisfied with its like-new condition. It probably is new, but marked as refurb for clearance.
In addition to what e.mote already said (which I fully agree with), I think the main thing you have to decide is what you'll be using it for. It all comes down to personal use. Since you said it will be for reading books and mags and occasional browsing, the HD+ is perfect for that. I use it for the same purpose + watching TV with Dish Anywhere around the house + streaming movies / shows from my PC with Plex for Android. On the other hand, if you're going to be doing CPU/GPU intensive stuff like gaming, get the new Nexus 7. I got my HD+ for $120 @ Staples and that was too good to pass up and don't regret the purchase at all, especially with official CM support.
I paid $ 180 for my HD+ and am very satisfied with it.
Watching movies I encoded, browsing web, checking email, playing
the latest games...it does it all quite well.
I have seen as low as $120 refurbished units from B&N which is pretty good. I bought mine at $149 and I have no regret even with all the crazy deals popping up later.
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With the price going down to 149$ is this a good buy?
My main use is reading books, magazines and occasional browsing with flipboard and pocket.
My main influence is the aspect ratio, since it's more suitable for magazines compared to other android tablets. not to mention the screen size for such price.
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e.mote is spot on, but as for my $0.02 I am very happy with my nook HD+. It's my first tablet and I love the high resolution screen and it's plenty portable. I'm using it to watch my favorite tv shows from anywhere I happen to be and I love it! Not to mention that due to a shoulder injury I have been limited on how much I can sit at a computer and work, but with the tablet I can use it for hours without aggravating it. It is well worth the money in my mind.
aGoGo said:
With the price going down to 149$ is this a good buy?
My main use is reading books, magazines and occasional browsing with flipboard and pocket.
My main influence is the aspect ratio, since it's more suitable for magazines compared to other android tablets. not to mention the screen size for such price.
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I have a Nook Tablet. Still love it. The 7" format fits for my uses. Never the less. The HD+ is the biggest bang for the buck. Good engineering. It is quality. I read a lot and the HD+ 9" format is a big improvement. I watch Netflix on occasion and with this tablet it is big enough to enjoy a video without having to use glasses.
It will always be a good (great?) portable media player. That's how I would view the HD+. Gorgeous screen, solid sound via headphones. Other tablets are going to have more cores and features and higher AnTuTu scores but this is a 1920x1280 IPS with 32GB on board for a low price. AND we're in Cyanogen builds -- support for the foreseeable future. That's a huge plus that everyone doesn't have.
I have an Acer a500 that is in a bad place and began looking for a tablet to replace it. Started out with a 7" 32GB Nexus v.1, but service plan and all was $248.00 - and right now we can't afford it. Read some more and the Nook HD+ really began to catch my eye...but again at that time, felt it was too much and took it back. Tried refurbed Acer A100 and it was AWFUL due to my high degree of near-sightedness. Took it back and went back to B&N and repurchased Nook HD+ with 16GB storage. As files are now accessible from cloud or google drive, and Nook has SD card slot, storage is not a huge issue.
Reason? I missed that 9" HD display for reading and web browsing, I'm not a huge B&N fan, but man did the HD+ sell me...and at $150, it's a definite steal. Seriously thinking about saving up enough money to buy a second one before too long, just to have to tiinker with.
think there might be a $20 gift card too if from b&N
Howdy,
Is the $20 gift card thing new? I bought mine in person a couple of weeks ago at a b&n and there was no gift card advertized or involved...
It's only $109 with free shipping for the next 2+ hours at http://1saleaday.com/main/
I was going to post this, and also I'm ordering. Just spotted this about 3 hours ago.
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It's only $109 with free shipping for the next 2+ hours at http://1saleaday.com/main/
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It's only $109 with free shipping for the next 2+ hours at http://1saleaday.com/main/
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I grabbed one from this deal too.
Wonder when we'll get them?
First shipment estimated to leave on
Thursday, September 12th, 2013
Orders usually ship within 7-10 business days
Under limited circumstances, up to 30 days
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When my Nexus 7 (2012) and HD+ are both available I consistently pick up the HD+ for the vast majority of uses. The screen size of the HD+ makes standard websites much easier to read, allow for more ebook content on the screen, and make it better for watching videos. In addition the sound of the HD+ is much better than the Nexus 7's. The Nook's negatives are that it is heavier and not as comfortable to hold but those are trade offs I'm happy to accept for the increased screen size. For my uses I don't notice much of a difference in speed.
Another thing to consider is the Nook's ability to run a custom ROM from an SD card without modifying the tablet's internal software. I'm running CyanogenMod 10.2 (the 4.3 version of Jellybean.) It's not perfect and has occasional problems including random reboots, but so does my Nexus 7 (to a lesser extent) when running stock software.
Overall after 4 months of ownership of the HD+ and 12 months with the Nexus 7, I think the Nook HD+ is well worth the $150 price even if it's being discontinued.
I have heard that the nook will be discontinued and that new versions will be released at the end of the year, I don't know which is true. Still a good device for the money. What makes this a great device are the smart people on this forum, verygreen especially (hat tip to you) and cross pollinators from other similar devices. It gets better with every release.
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New Nook from 1SaleaDay has arrived
My 16GB Nook HD+ from 1Sale-a-Day arrived yesterday in pristine condition (likely completely unused, but refurbished in original box and with a warranty). I opened it up and went thru registration, and it immediately updated to 2.0.6. I added a few apps and then checked the software update button and it then updated to 2.1.1. Finally, I backed up, rooted, and added extras from Leapinar's thread. This was a little tricky and seemed to not work until I pushed in on the microSD while booting. That worked! I now have a perfectly functional Nook HD+ !! I love the great features, especially the screen resolution, and it is much more nimble than my old HP Touchpad. Overall I am VERY satisfied.
You got yours already?
Mine hasn't even shipped.
I did snag a groovy case for it on ebay for $18
The Nook HD+ is a bargain. I've owned the HP Touchpad and now after upgrading to the Nook HD+, I couldn't be happier.