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live in canada xoom still wont update

So my xoom is still stuck on 3.0.1 why wont it update? And is there a way to force it to?

Followed this guide for my canadian xoom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1166106
[GUIDE] WiFi MZ604 Models - Change from 'your-region' image to US 3.2
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lp_stealth said:
So my xoom is still stuck on 3.0.1 why wont it update? And is there a way to force it to?
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I wouldn't expect the Canadian update any time soon. The google buyout seems to have put a hold on the android updates Moto was releasing for non-US customers. Just last week on the official moto forums we were told if we want 'early' access to it, we should sign up for their testing program. What does that tell you? Nevermind it's almost the end of august now.....
Rob

I!m in canada as well, just root and install the hammerhead rom that's around. I have a smoother device for it and have absolutely no regrets!

Some user on the official moto forums said the Canadian OTA 3.1 update is live now with working sd card support (r/w). I can't test, I returned my Xoom and got a Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Rob

Canadian 3.1 OTA updates are indeed live. My 3.0.1 Xoom just now offered to upgrade itself to 3.1.
"Your tablet has been upgraded to 64.0.20.en.CA version"

Yup mine just updated today. Crazy timing

were you guys rooted with tiamat kernel when you updated?
I got the update but I hit "later" to make sure I:
1) don't lose root
2) don't brick due to custom kernel
Any thoughts?

MitchRapp said:
were you guys rooted with tiamat kernel when you updated?
I got the update but I hit "later" to make sure I:
1) don't lose root
2) don't brick due to custom kernel
Any thoughts?
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Don't try to OTA update if you are rooted/with or without a custom kernel. Being just unlocked appears to be ok.

The Tiamat ROM has been known to cause some issues with the OTA updates, but that is due to the nature of the device being rooted. A few members have experienced bootloader issues where the device will stay stuck on the Honeycomb boot animation.
When that happens, all you can do is wipe and restore. You shouldn't have to do that now seeing that both Tiamat and the official US ROM are now up to 3.2.

I'm not on the Tiamat ROM, I have the kernel only (3.0.1 official from google, bootloader unlocked, rooted and running Tiamat Kernel 1.3.2)
I should wait then?

MitchRapp said:
I'm not on the Tiamat ROM, I have the kernel only (3.0.1 official from google, bootloader unlocked, rooted and running Tiamat Kernel 1.3.2)
I should wait then?
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I would say yes, don't do it, but if you want to experiment, just make sure you are prepared to come back from a soft brick.

yeah I'll wait I hate starting over... I'll wait for a patched update.zip or something!
Thanks (hey at least 3.1 for Canada is finally out... 3.2 is out for the U.S. and 4.0 is coming... geez)

Can't wait for 4.0.

litanyww said:
Canadian 3.1 OTA updates are indeed live. My 3.0.1 Xoom just now offered to upgrade itself to 3.1.
"Your tablet has been upgraded to 64.0.20.en.CA version"
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I can confirm this. Downloading nao!

For those of us who rooted our device and want to update OTA, what are our options? If I wipe my device, does that eliminate root which will allow me to update OTA?

Any news on 3.1 Canada? I get a popup every couple of hours and I hit "LATER" everytime ... waiting for the right way to do it

[Q] Temporary root galaxy note?

so if the official ICS arrives i wont have problem updating it.

I don't think rooting will affect your ability to the update

Realy. Im just afraid because when i rooted my htc sensation there was a 14 mb update when i install it i always vet boot loob or stock. Im scared when i root galaxy note. I will still get the ICS with no problem. Can you confirm this? Sorry for noob.

well....if you follow the steps in the following thread...you can always unroot after you root your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
but to my limited noobie knowledge...if you don't flash you phone to a custom rom and just simply root...you should be fine.
rooting is to just give you special access to your phone.....

DMax99 said:
but to my limited noobie knowledge...if you don't flash you phone to a custom rom and just simply root...you should be fine.
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Not necessarily!
Often, updates are provided in the form of patch files, rather than as complete ROMs. If you've rooted, chances are you have made some changes to the system partition which will render the patch file useless as it is generally expecting the files in the system partition of have been untouched.
My advice is not to worry about updates too much - when the official updates do drop, within a few hours there will be custom ROMs that include the updates suitable for flashing via CWM etc. In addition, if you do accept an official update, you may find yourself unable to root as the exploits used to gain root may well have been patched.
Regards,
Dave

Thanks for your help.
Im asking this because i have htc sensation and i root it and made a nandroid backup. When the 14mb update arrive when i install it my phone just got stock on htc logo.
If i root using the zergrush is it much safe?
Im affraid when i root my note i wont able to get the official ICS.
(I only root just to install the onhere maps by brute because my country is still not activated the google navigation)
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[WARNING] OTA2 will fix root exploit!

As writen by the Lenovo Staff in the lenovo Forum:
1. OTA2 will fix the root exploit of OTA1. It is unacceptable to our enterprise customers deploying a business tool like ThinkPad Tablet to have a known root exploit - so we have no choice but to fix the exploit. My advice to anyone who wants to keep root, is to stay on OTA1. Fixing the root exploit took less than a day - it is not (and never has been) the reason for OTA2 delays. Nobody within Lenovo will have anything more to say about rooting the ThinkPad Tablet, so please don't ask any follow-up questions about this - or at least don't expect any answers. Thank you in advance for understanding this.
2. OTA2 delays are being caused by various issues found during testing. We are trying hard to get OTA2 done right and everyone within Lenovo understands how many important fixes are in it. Bsnf will probably have more to say about this tomorrow - whether OTA2 will release this week, or if there will be another delay while we fix a last-minute issue found during testing. We apologize for the delay.
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The full thread can be found here:
http://forum.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-slate-tablets/OTA2-fix-list/td-p/658231/page/17

So no ota2 for me!
Prefer bugs than not be able to root my tablet.

quyTam said:
So no ota2 for me!
Prefer bugs than not be able to root my tablet.
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Well if you have cwr and can flash unsigned zips, then both should be possible after some modifying

Remember, the stock ROM overwrites the recovery ROM at every boot!! The new OTA will re-enable that feature...

Logxen said:
Remember, the stock ROM overwrites the recovery ROM at every boot!! The new OTA will re-enable that feature...
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I meant modifying before flashing. But thanks for making it clear for everyone.

This is extremely lousy. I am regretting buying one of these now. What are the chances it gets rooted again? Unfortunately I updated to the OTA2 before seeing this.

FearTheCron said:
This is extremely lousy. I am regretting buying one of these now. What are the chances it gets rooted again? Unfortunately I updated to the OTA2 before seeing this.
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Hu? Where did you get OTA2? I can't find it on the lenovo servers.

I didn't realize that the OTA2 wasn't out yet. I just hit the auto update and assumed that it was the ota 2 update. I am on build "ThinkPadTablet_A310_02_0037_0075_US". I will try the root exploit and see if it works. Hopefully someone can modify the ota update to maintain root.

According to a post over in the Lenovo forums it is, but those on root will not get the update OTA naturally.
TS

That was released in Nov 2011:
see http://download.lenovo.com/slates/think/tablet1/
You are still on OTA1 - relax and root away!
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I didn't realize that the OTA2 wasn't out yet. I just hit the auto update and assumed that it was the ota 2 update. I am on build "ThinkPadTablet_A310_02_0037_0075_US". I will try the root exploit and see if it works. Hopefully someone can modify the ota update to maintain root.
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Seems they have pulled OTA2. I downloaded it ten minutes ago and now it is not there anymore.
ThinkPadTablet_A310_02_0039_0086_UK.zip
For some reason it does not list but can still be downloaded
http://download.lenovo.com/slates/think/tablet1/ThinkPadTablet_A310_02_0039_0086_UK.zip
http://download.lenovo.com/slates/think/tablet1/ThinkPadTablet_A310_02_0039_0086_WE.zip

ok, 0086_we is available via ota.
i just downloaded it automatically.
the update.zip is stored in /cache, just in case someone wants to delete it and prevent the update on next restart.
might it be possible to manipulate the update.zip and include su (maybe a silly question, but i'm far away from being a dev or android-expert).
greetings

danjac said:
ok, 0086_we is available via ota.
i just downloaded it automatically.
the update.zip is stored in /cache, just in case someone wants to delete it and prevent the update on next restart.
might it be possible to manipulate the update.zip and include su (maybe a silly question, but i'm far away from being a dev or android-expert).
greetings
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Should be possible. You have at least to edit the update.script in the zipfile and to look for parts like this (from the orignal script):
Code:
ui_print("Removing unneeded files...");
delete("/system/app/LenovoBookmarkWidget-1.0.023.apk",
"/system/app/LenovoConfigFileHandler-1.2.001.apk",
"/system/app/LenovoSetupWizard-1.2.001.apk",
"/system/app/MobiHandAppStore_b1.0.4.538.apk",
"/system/app/dxtg-lenovo-usa_3.003.1049.apk", "/system/bin/aescrypt",
"/system/bin/redsocks", "/system/bin/redsocksctls",
"/system/app/LenovoAppShop_K1_b219.apk",
"/system/app/LenovoBookmarkWidget-1.0.022.apk",
"/system/app/LenovoConfigFileHandler-1.0.007.apk",
"/system/app/LenovoSetupWizard-1.1.001.apk",
"/system/app/dxtg-lnv-u1_3.003.999.apk",
[B]"/system/app/Superuser.apk", "/system/bin/su", "/system/xbin/su",[/B]
"/system/recovery.img");
"Removing unneeded files..." ... no comment...
You may also want to remove the recovery and stay wit CWM. Will look into it when i find some free time. But can't test it myself right now, because I'm playing around with a custom rom and the firmware updates in the update could make things more complicated.

What kind of custom rom do you use? Aosp? Ics?

Updated with temporary unroot and OTA Rootkeeper to .......086_WE
So the rootkeeper works on my tablet.

Sporty883 said:
Updated with temporary unroot and OTA Rootkeeper to .......086_WE
So the rootkeeper works on my tablet.
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Hi
I got root keeper but did you do a temp unroot to do the update? What steps did you do? Really want to update and keep root.
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paperclip69 said:
Hi
I got root keeper but did you do a temp unroot to do the update? What steps did you do? Really want to update and keep root.
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I believe he is writing specifically about OTA Root Keeper which purports to have a temp-unroot procedure before running an OTA update.
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper

Its ok I had rootkeeper and forgot it had a temp unroot, just did a temp unroot, updated tpt and restored root, all working fine and root access is confirmed.
Cheers
Tom
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before I even knew it, I had updated the ota2 after rooting. had root for about 3 minutes. LOL. does anyone know how to restore this thing back to ota1 or even the original firmware? I have the ota update kit stored locally, so if I had any kind of pointer to the original rom, I could probably downgrade it. Hopefully.

Anyone knows when will be available this update to ROW version?

Can I update my android version after root?

Hello there,
This is my first time using an android device, and I have just successfully rooted my n10.
But I was wondering if google came up with a new android version can I update it? And after I update it, is my device still rooted?
I'm just asking to make sure I don't messed up my tablet.
Thanks
Tim

D-X69 said:
Hello there,
This is my first time using an android device, and I have just successfully rooted my n10.
But I was wondering if google came up with a new android version can I update it? And after I update it, is my device still rooted?
I'm just asking to make sure I don't messed up my tablet.
Thanks
Tim
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In general there are ways to 'keep root'. But no one knows the future so each time its possible there are problems. People smarter than us will try first and work out all the kinks. If you need to have Google's update that same day you still can, but to do it 100% safely youll need to change things back.
So to literally answer your question - yes your tablet will be able to be updated. (Be sure you learn about what that means w/ root though prior to Googles next update.)

you will lose root. Always check the development section to see if that new upgrade has root.
If they do, upgrade then get root again. I say, be patient and wait for root before any upgrades... makes the Nexus more fun.

leyvatron said:
you will lose root. Always check the development section to see if that new upgrade has root.
If they do, upgrade then get root again. I say, be patient and wait for root before any upgrades... makes the Nexus more fun.
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So do you mean, lets say there's a new android version and I'd have to get the new root then do a system update?
Or do I system update and then root my phone as soon as im done updating to the new version??
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D-X69,
I read on a few XDA posts that when people did the last OTA (4.2.2) update while rooted they lost root, but a few of them had used "OTA RootKeeper" and used it to restore root easily. Of course they had previous to applying the OTA update installed OTA RootKeeper and performed the initial root back.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
Here are more options and a discussion on the subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148167&highlight=ota+rootkeeper
and another where a user directly mentions success using OTA RootKeeper:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2152397&highlight=ota+rootkeeper

Since you are already rooted you have a couple choices. Flash an updated stock rooted ROM or go custom ROM that is updated. No need to lose your root to upgrade ROM.

And, to add to the above, here's a YouTube video explaining OTA Rootkeeper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky5miA8ilr0&feature=em-subs_digest
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Just go AOKP instead
All my devices run AOKP, and I have never looked back.

10.4.2.18? [Notice] and [Q]uestion Regarding Root on JB fw!

10.4.2.18 seems to have come out for the TF101G I presume, and it's a jb update.
If you ever want to root or think about root don't update as I don't think any method will root this firmware, as I've already read 2 posts that wolf's method won't work for this version.
NvFlash doesn't work for the TF101G, so you might be sol if you update and want root later.
Can someone please confirm that this is a real official ota update?
Original TF users can update without fear because NvFlash will work for them and that's always a root option, slider users and 3G tf101G users cannot NvFlash, so don't update!
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Thing O Doom said:
Reading more it seems I was mistaken that this came out for the TF101, several newer users posted about it in this fora so I assumed that it was for the 101. I think this is just for the 300t and prime though now, as Wolf's method also worked for ICS on those tablets and the other 1-click root tool was able to use it to flash those tabs still on ICS. I think someone updated to jb and tried to use that to root and failed.
Those devices have bootloader unlocked though, so I actually don't think this will be an issue.
adding this to op.
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My TF101 is already rooted and currently running CM10.1 (for now), so I'm glad I don't have to worry about this. :victory:
Had a question though... Is it that they are trying to purposely make it difficult or impossible to root various devices with each new update? or is it just that there are currently no methods to root that particular device/fw at this time?
I'm still quite new to all this android hacking and just trying to learn. Thanks.
I remember about 6 months or more back, there was no way to root my particular phone (at least none that worked for me). 6 months later and BAM there's several methods available that all work! All you dev's here on Xda are doing an awesome job! Keep it up!

MEC-777 said:
My TF101 is already rooted and currently running CM10.1 (for now), so I'm glad I don't have to worry about this. :victory:
Had a question though... Is it that they are trying to purposely make it difficult or impossible to root various devices with each new update? or is it just that there are currently no methods to root that particular device/fw at this time?
I'm still quite new to all this android hacking and just trying to learn. Thanks.
I remember about 6 months or more back, there was no way to root my particular phone (at least none that worked for me). 6 months later and BAM there's several methods available that all work! All you dev's here on Xda are doing an awesome job! Keep it up!
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They seem to try and block rooting methods in each update but someone always finds a way around it
If you have an SBK1 device it shouldn't be a problem

Thing O Doom said:
10.4.2.18 seems to have come out for the TF101G I presume, and it's a jb update.
If you ever want to root or think about root don't update as I don't think any method will root this firmware, as I've already read 2 posts that wolf's method won't work for this version.
NvFlash doesn't work for the TF101G, so you might be sol if you update and want root later.
Can someone please confirm that this is a real official ota update?
Original TF users can update without fear because NvFlash will work for them and that's always a root option, slider users and 3G tf101G users cannot NvFlash, so don't update!
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Where did you find info concerning this 10.4.2.18 update? (same version no. as TF201 and TF300)

fregor said:
Where did you find info concerning this 10.4.2.18 update? (same version no. as TF201 and TF300)
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Reading more it seems I was mistaken that this came out for the TF101, several newer users posted about it in this fora so I assumed that it was for the 101. I think this is just for the 300t and prime though now, as Wolf's method also worked for ICS on those tablets and the other 1-click root tool was able to use it to flash those tabs still on ICS. I think someone updated to jb and tried to use that to root and failed.
Those devices have bootloader unlocked though, so I actually don't think this will be an issue.
adding this to op.