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OTA Update and unRevoked

Newbie question - I had installed unRevoked last week on my stock EVO to try out the wi-fi tether app. My device does not seem to have recieved the update today. Shouldn't I be able to force it through Settings --> System Updates --> HTC Software update ??
Or does the fact that I have unRevoked block it?
I tried uninstalling unRevoked, but it still looks like I can't force the update?
Any ideas?

You will loose root if you apply it.
https://twitter.com/unrevoked
Worse yet if you accidentally apply twice you brick your phone.

Can't get the update?
Thanks - I was less worried about not being able to unRevoke - what has me worried is I can't seem to force the update and I haven't gotten any message that it's available?

I think it is a rollout update. Wait it out.

a question
I've been following the 'how to gain root access after OTA' thread and have a question, but they don't want people posting anything not DIRECTLY RELATED to hacking after OTA there anymore. So, I will try this question here. Here goes :
I have NOT done the 1.47.651 June 29 OTA update, I keep refusing it. My Evo is essentially stock (no rooting, no unrevoked, etc. ) I would like to know if I can run unrevoked since I haven't done the OTA. also, would like to know if I can do the OTA and STILL run unrevoked. Or do I need unrevoked2?
I've been to unrevoked Twitter page and unrevoked docu.wiki and see some information, (but not enough for someone new to Android like myself), and no way to ask/post questions directly. So, I am trying here. My main interest isn't even so much root, it's that I want to be able to tether via USB without having to use extra software like PDAnet.
Any help or a point in the right direction, much thanks.
Scott

scottspa74 said:
I would like to know if I can run unrevoked since I haven't done the OTA.
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Yes.
scottspa74 said:
also, would like to know if I can do the OTA and STILL run unrevoked.
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No.
scottspa74 said:
Or do I need unrevoked2?
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You need to use unrevoked2 and use their modified OTA which will give you the benefits and maintain root. If you install the official OTA at any point, you will lose the ability to root, period (until someone figures out a new way to do it )

pdlboy said:
Yes.
No.
You need to use unrevoked2 and use their modified OTA which will give you the benefits and maintain root. If you install the official OTA at any point, you will lose the ability to root, period (until someone figures out a new way to do it )
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Thank you. You even broke it into separate questions. last clarification, I promise: with no OTA I CAN use unrevoked1 and that doesn't break 4G/not what's being blamed for breaking 4G?
I'm not too concerned with most of the root features, I just wanna be able to tether, so I'm thinking unrevoked1 would be good enough for me, (if It's not what's responsible for breaking 4G on non-updated devices)
Thanks again.

[Q] Any reason to keep OTA ?

The latest 3.2.1 update is pissing me off, I figured I'd do it, then re-root and -enable adhoc support, which is all I care about as far as needing root for. Now I realize the root for the latest will cause me to reload the entire setup/apps and think it sucks.
So, what is so dang important in these updates to start with?

It was up to you whether you applied the OTA update. You didn't have to. Caveat Emptor!

That wasn't addressing the question asked.

BBAHunter said:
That wasn't addressing the question asked.
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The question seemed rhetorical coming from someone that took a 3.2.1 update expecting to maintain root.
Next time use this to maintain root through OTA:
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper

kjy2010 said:
The question seemed rhetorical coming from someone that took a 3.2.1 update expecting to maintain root.
Next time use this to maintain root through OTA:
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
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The question was not rhetorical. I did not mean to allow it to update, it was done by accident when clearing notifications.
Thanks for the link, if it works I'll do it.

BBAHunter said:
The latest 3.2.1 update is pissing me off, I figured I'd do it, then re-root and -enable adhoc support, which is all I care about as far as needing root for. Now I realize the root for the latest will cause me to reload the entire setup/apps and think it sucks.
So, what is so dang important in these updates to start with?
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Heh, I feel your pain, but I think you're overlooking the bigger picture.
If you're already on these forums, and have rooted your device, OTA's are a bit of a non-issue. (personally I think they're over-rated) Grab a custom rom and have at 'er.
Also reloading setups/apps is a pain in the arse but you'll likely have heard a dozen times or more to use TitaniumBackup, it does help so you don't have to redownload all of your apps after an update, or rooting, or installing a custom rom.

Recently Bought Used TF101

I just ordered a TF101 on cowboom today and I'm wondering if I should root it ASAP or allow it to upgrade to ICS and then root. Does it really matter what updated OS will be present with regard to rooting?

Let it update then root it (that's what i did when i got mine a couple of days ago). It's just as easy to root ICS now.

Saav said:
Let it update then root it (that's what i did when i got mine a couple of days ago). It's just as easy to root ICS now.
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I just bought a Tf101 a couple days ago (my first tablet) and updated to latest ICS. Which is the easiest method to root.(i'm stuck).
Thanks!

R4fo said:
I just bought a Tf101 a couple days ago (my first tablet) and updated to latest ICS. Which is the easiest method to root.(i'm stuck).
Thanks!
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ViperMod (opttion 1) to root

baseballfanz said:
ViperMod (opttion 1) to root
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I just found tha my TF101 is B70 will still works?

Yes it will work just fine. B70 just means you can't use NV flash, so be careful
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chrishh44 said:
I just ordered a TF101 on cowboom today and I'm wondering if I should root it ASAP or allow it to upgrade to ICS and then root. Does it really matter what updated OS will be present with regard to rooting?
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The version of ICS does matter. The TF101G (the 3G version) of ICS is not currently rootable. Based on that, the next update of ICS for the regular version TF101 will not be rootable either, and, if the new thread someone just started about a new OTA firmware update becoming available now is true and if you hadn't updated to ICS before now, it may be too late to do so and still be able to root it.
In that case, instead of OTA, you'd probably have to root on Honeycomb, install Rootkeeper, use root to install a custom recovery, use the custom recovery to install a rootable version of ICS [because many, including myself, somehow lost root when upgrading from Honeycomb to ICS], root ICS if unrooted and unrecoverable from Rootkeeper, doublecheck Rootkeeper, and then hope the next ICS update does not unroot and block Rootkeeper [which is where most of us are now].

ssl123 said:
The version of ICS does matter. The TF101G (the 3G version) of ICS is not currently rootable. Based on that, the next update of ICS for the regular version TF101 will not be rootable either, and, if the new thread someone just started about a new OTA firmware update becoming available now is true and if you hadn't updated to ICS before now, it may be too late to do so and still be able to root it.
In that case, instead of OTA, you'd probably have to root on Honeycomb, install Rootkeeper, use root to install a custom recovery, use the custom recovery to install a rootable version of ICS [because many, including myself, somehow lost root when upgrading from Honeycomb to ICS], root ICS if unrooted and unrecoverable from Rootkeeper, doublecheck Rootkeeper, and then hope the next ICS update does not unroot and block Rootkeeper [which is where most of us are now].
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This sounds like I could be in for some trouble. I'm not the best at rooting(was able to do my Evo4g and Nook Tablet) but this seems like there are quite a few little details to it. Can I return the tablet if I am unsuccessful at rooting or will I void any return because of it?

Since you bought it through a kind of second hand store I don't think they will know the difference between a bad root brick and just an actual brick so you "should" be able to return it, but technichally once you begin the rooting process your device warranty should already be voided.
Although, a new update just came out today and if it does everything that it says it does you may not need to root to have a fully functional device.

Cowboom has a very easy return policy because they know they are dealing with returned goods (from Best Buy). All you have to do is send them a request for an RMA, and they'll send you one promptly. Just be sure to do it within the allowed return period.
It's too bad you didn't update to ICS prior to last night's update being released. It would have been so much easier to root ICS that way (using ViperMOD), but now the latest ICS is probably not rootable for the time being. If you update OTA now, you (probably) can't root, so decide first before letting the OTA updater do its thing. Or go the longer Clockwork Recovery route I mentioned above for root.

[News][TPT] OTA 3.5 Update Out!

http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPa...-coming-soon/m-p/842383/highlight/true#M18281
Straight from bsnf on the Official Lenovo Forums;
It's only out for some at this point.
ROW --> 9/3
JP --> 9/10
Ch --> 9/17
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08-24-2012 09:28 AM
splotz wrote:
Hello bsnf,
is there any prediction for when the OTA3.5 could be ready? (in a week, a month ?)
Or is it still not possible to say, because of testing finding also on newer versions still serious issues?
Regards
Splotz
Got told that it will release on Monday.
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DiJu519 said:
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPa...-coming-soon/m-p/842383/highlight/true#M18281
Straight from bsnf on the Official Lenovo Forums;
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I hope 3.5 can be rooted somehow! Or at least fix the awful sluggishness of the whole thing.

DiJu519 said:
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPa...-coming-soon/m-p/842383/highlight/true#M18281
Straight from bsnf on the Official Lenovo Forums;
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MY TPT is giving me the hi sign that an OTA is available now. I assume it will retain root if I use OTA Rootkeeper.
Any stories of lost root, even when using Rootkeeper?

Everythin butter with rootkeeper and temp unroot.
Update.zip - succeeded
2b2b

2b2b said:
Everythin butter with rootkeeper and temp unroot.
Update.zip - succeeded
2b2b
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Have you noticed any differences? Is it generally less laggy?

eug said:
Have you noticed any differences? Is it generally less laggy?
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Seems much more responsive.

How do you know the latest build? Just updated, Mine says A400_03_0070_0132_US
I lost root with the latest update (been a few weeks), despite having voodoo, but I was able to restore SU with this
http://www.thinkpadtabletforums.com...er-not-working-after-ota3-ics-update-(fixed)/
edit: was able to get CWM and trying to install CM10 now, fairly easy to do. Even with the latest updates, just have to look in the right places I guess.

Can anyone share the zip of this update ?
I can't find it on the lanovo page http://download.lenovo.com/slates/think/tablet1/
've tried to launch update but forget I was on custom recovery, now I'm stuck in CWM recovery because of assert and cannot reboot the tablet (it reboot but go automatically on recovery). So I need this update to try to flash with CWM to see if it correct this problem.
EDIT : ok, file of OTA 3.5 just appears on download page, the correct url is without last "/"

Observations for my tablet under 3.5:
1. Awakening the tablet from display-off state seems much faster.
2. Pen seems to exhibit almost no skips or lags, whether in pen-only mode or not.
3. Still completely nonfunctional GPS. (This seems to be a hardware issue, though Lenovo service has failed twice to find or fix it.)
BTW, my tablet is rooted but otherwise stock.

eug said:
Have you noticed any differences? Is it generally less laggy?
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can't see big differences as from honey to icecream.
launcher swiping lags sometimes..
everythhin else works treaty
. -)

Is upgrading just a matter of using Rootkeeper then upgrading directly to restore root?

yahoowizard said:
Is upgrading just a matter of using Rootkeeper then upgrading directly to restore root?
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yes - I temp. unrooted - after reboot everything as before.
Update directly from lenovo..
2b2b

2b2b said:
Everythin butter with rootkeeper and temp unroot.
Update.zip - succeeded
2b2b
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I lost root after this update. I had root keeper installed and root backed up
its just gone dammit !!

Mine kept root just fine, using OTA Rootkeeper.

Can you pls tell us what version of tablet you have(row,us,we)? If its region specific, that rootkeeper is (not) working.

HaliG1 said:
Can you pls tell us what version of tablet you have(row,us,we)? If its region specific, that rootkeeper is (not) working.
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16g us
last 4 ota updates ok - temp unrooted - since ice cream without cwm.

HaliG1 said:
Can you pls tell us what version of tablet you have(row,us,we)? If its region specific, that rootkeeper is (not) working.
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I messed up, had not had a coffee, I had a root backup but I did not temp unroot before updating

Can I update my android version after root?

Hello there,
This is my first time using an android device, and I have just successfully rooted my n10.
But I was wondering if google came up with a new android version can I update it? And after I update it, is my device still rooted?
I'm just asking to make sure I don't messed up my tablet.
Thanks
Tim

D-X69 said:
Hello there,
This is my first time using an android device, and I have just successfully rooted my n10.
But I was wondering if google came up with a new android version can I update it? And after I update it, is my device still rooted?
I'm just asking to make sure I don't messed up my tablet.
Thanks
Tim
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In general there are ways to 'keep root'. But no one knows the future so each time its possible there are problems. People smarter than us will try first and work out all the kinks. If you need to have Google's update that same day you still can, but to do it 100% safely youll need to change things back.
So to literally answer your question - yes your tablet will be able to be updated. (Be sure you learn about what that means w/ root though prior to Googles next update.)

you will lose root. Always check the development section to see if that new upgrade has root.
If they do, upgrade then get root again. I say, be patient and wait for root before any upgrades... makes the Nexus more fun.

leyvatron said:
you will lose root. Always check the development section to see if that new upgrade has root.
If they do, upgrade then get root again. I say, be patient and wait for root before any upgrades... makes the Nexus more fun.
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So do you mean, lets say there's a new android version and I'd have to get the new root then do a system update?
Or do I system update and then root my phone as soon as im done updating to the new version??
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D-X69,
I read on a few XDA posts that when people did the last OTA (4.2.2) update while rooted they lost root, but a few of them had used "OTA RootKeeper" and used it to restore root easily. Of course they had previous to applying the OTA update installed OTA RootKeeper and performed the initial root back.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
Here are more options and a discussion on the subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148167&highlight=ota+rootkeeper
and another where a user directly mentions success using OTA RootKeeper:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2152397&highlight=ota+rootkeeper

Since you are already rooted you have a couple choices. Flash an updated stock rooted ROM or go custom ROM that is updated. No need to lose your root to upgrade ROM.

And, to add to the above, here's a YouTube video explaining OTA Rootkeeper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky5miA8ilr0&feature=em-subs_digest
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