so if the official ICS arrives i wont have problem updating it.
I don't think rooting will affect your ability to the update
Realy. Im just afraid because when i rooted my htc sensation there was a 14 mb update when i install it i always vet boot loob or stock. Im scared when i root galaxy note. I will still get the ICS with no problem. Can you confirm this? Sorry for noob.
well....if you follow the steps in the following thread...you can always unroot after you root your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
but to my limited noobie knowledge...if you don't flash you phone to a custom rom and just simply root...you should be fine.
rooting is to just give you special access to your phone.....
DMax99 said:
but to my limited noobie knowledge...if you don't flash you phone to a custom rom and just simply root...you should be fine.
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Not necessarily!
Often, updates are provided in the form of patch files, rather than as complete ROMs. If you've rooted, chances are you have made some changes to the system partition which will render the patch file useless as it is generally expecting the files in the system partition of have been untouched.
My advice is not to worry about updates too much - when the official updates do drop, within a few hours there will be custom ROMs that include the updates suitable for flashing via CWM etc. In addition, if you do accept an official update, you may find yourself unable to root as the exploits used to gain root may well have been patched.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks for your help.
Im asking this because i have htc sensation and i root it and made a nandroid backup. When the 14mb update arrive when i install it my phone just got stock on htc logo.
If i root using the zergrush is it much safe?
Im affraid when i root my note i wont able to get the official ICS.
(I only root just to install the onhere maps by brute because my country is still not activated the google navigation)
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Hi guys,
I have a question about updating to Froyo once it is available with a rooted phone. Will I have to unroot in order to take advatage of an OTA update or will I be able to upgrade along with the unrooted users?
Does the same thing apply to a phone that is flashed with a custom ROM and Kernal?
I've just rooted my phone and installed wifi tether which was the main reason for me to root.
The appeal extra battery life and the ability to over/underclock is the reason I want to flash a custom rom.
I ask this because although I've succeeded in rooting my Epic I can't seem to boot into the clockworkmod recovery screen and thus not been able to flash a custom rom or kernal. I have yet to try unrooting and starting over from scratch but with Froyo seemingly on the horizon, I don't want to go through all the hassle of trying to get a custom ROM only to have to undo it when Froyo arrives.
Thanks
This has been covered multiple times in this forum.
Devs will likely be coming out with ROMs based on Froyo very soon after the Froyo update.
But if you can't wait till then, you'll have to go back to stock everything (kernel+ROM) to get your phone updated via OTA.
Still not sure about root, but if our phones get de-rooted during the update, someone will also come up with a rooting method quickly.
tonysohn said:
Still not sure about root, but if our phones get de-rooted during the update, someone will also come up with a rooting method quickly.
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My guess is yes, you will lose root as it will flash a new kernel that won't have the rooted initramfs. You will most likely need to re-root using a new method once 2.2 is available. I could be wrong though, nobody knows for sure yet.
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Hi All, I just got my Nexus one off ebay and it appears its not rooted as i do not see the padlock icon and i also cannot run the nexus torch.
What im looking to do is revert back to the stock software and than do all the OTA updates myself.
Can someone help me with this ? Im not looking to root though.
Im running the ATT version of the Nexus one.
Thanks all for your help.
To be root or not
if you do not see the padlock, then you are root!!
hi, yes i know and i do not see the pad lock so i have a unrooted phone. Im trying to find out how i can install the stock software this way i can do the OTA updates myself.
Thanks
If there's no padlock and you're sure it's not rooted... why do you think it's not already stock?
Well its running gingerbread and i wanted to go back to froyo and than OTA the updates myself
If its not rooted, root it! What version you on currently?
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Im on the Nexus one ATT version, running the most recent gingerbread OS.
2.3.6???
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If it is, try root using this... http://apachejava.blogspot.com/2011/06/root-nexus-one-gingerbread-234.html
My dad using my nexus one, so i dunno much... So, is your bootloader unlock, if it is, then go ahead with the link above... Then S-OFF using BlackRose...
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Check this!!
Might help you.
http://answers.unity3d.com/questions/56512/downgrading-google-nexus-one-from-android-gingerbr.html
If you don't see the padlock it means the bootloader is still locked. If you don't have the SuperUser app then you are more than likely NOT rooted. Sounds like a stock phone if you ask me. Why do you want to roll back to Froyo then update? Sounds like you are already where you want to be. It sounds like a case of reaching around your ass to scratch your elbow. Heh. If you try to OTA update it and it says you are up to date, I would suggest leaving it alone or just root it! Good luck!
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zinner526 said:
Well its running gingerbread and i wanted to go back to froyo and than OTA the updates myself
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Why? Is there a problem with what is currently installed? If it's working fine, then I would expect downgrading to a previous version and applying the updates would just get you back to where you are now. I'm not criticizing, just trying to understand what you're looking to achieve
If you mean stock as in "original" that isn't Froyo either. The Nexus One originally came with Eclair (2.1). If you don't have root, I'm not sure if you can downgrade or how safe it would be. I've seen mixed results with downgrading. The only way to do a complete flash would be with an unlocked bootloader or root + custom recovery.
If you don't want to root or unlock the bootloader, why not just do a full wipe and use the version you have on it? You could also root it temporarily to restore to an unrooted Eclair or Froyo, then apply the updates.
Thanks Narbir, I'm going to try this. Does it matter I have AT&T ?
I hope So. I m usng Voda uk. Don't really brother me by that.
Well the phone reboots often for no reason so i thought if i started from the factory installed software and go forward it would help.
How hard is it to root to install enclar and than go forward ? Unless someone has another idea for the reboot issue ?
Install the latest stock ROM in PASSIMG format (complete ROM, all the partitions). No need to go back to Eclair or Froyo.
Prepare for the possibility of it not helping at all, and your phone HW being faulty. If you have ADB set up - you can run "adb bugreport" after the crash, and look for "ARM9 has crashed" line in the log dump that comes. If you'll see them - no amount of ROM switching will help.
Not to sound pedantic, but you seem a little confused (OP). Why don't you start by reading the FAQs regarding rooting and unlocking the bootloader, and understanding the ROM installation processes.
Couple of fundamentals to get you started:
1. The padlock (or absence of) is no indication of whether you are rooted or not. It merely indicates whether your 'bootloader' is unlocked or not, which is a completely separate concept from rooting.
2. Easiest method of seeing whether you are rooted is to see if you have the 'SuperUser' app in your app drawer.
If your objective is to install a stock/default ROM, search for a 'PASSIMG' for the latest available firmware for your device. Search these forums or Google it. The procedure is fairly straightforward and only involves putting the file on your SD card - and will restore your phone to a stock usable state.
If you're interested in custom ROMs, the fastest way to get started is to use SuperOneClick to root (Google, please). Then go to the market and download ROM Manager and just follow the instructions!
Hello there,
This is my first time using an android device, and I have just successfully rooted my n10.
But I was wondering if google came up with a new android version can I update it? And after I update it, is my device still rooted?
I'm just asking to make sure I don't messed up my tablet.
Thanks
Tim
D-X69 said:
Hello there,
This is my first time using an android device, and I have just successfully rooted my n10.
But I was wondering if google came up with a new android version can I update it? And after I update it, is my device still rooted?
I'm just asking to make sure I don't messed up my tablet.
Thanks
Tim
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In general there are ways to 'keep root'. But no one knows the future so each time its possible there are problems. People smarter than us will try first and work out all the kinks. If you need to have Google's update that same day you still can, but to do it 100% safely youll need to change things back.
So to literally answer your question - yes your tablet will be able to be updated. (Be sure you learn about what that means w/ root though prior to Googles next update.)
you will lose root. Always check the development section to see if that new upgrade has root.
If they do, upgrade then get root again. I say, be patient and wait for root before any upgrades... makes the Nexus more fun.
leyvatron said:
you will lose root. Always check the development section to see if that new upgrade has root.
If they do, upgrade then get root again. I say, be patient and wait for root before any upgrades... makes the Nexus more fun.
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So do you mean, lets say there's a new android version and I'd have to get the new root then do a system update?
Or do I system update and then root my phone as soon as im done updating to the new version??
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D-X69,
I read on a few XDA posts that when people did the last OTA (4.2.2) update while rooted they lost root, but a few of them had used "OTA RootKeeper" and used it to restore root easily. Of course they had previous to applying the OTA update installed OTA RootKeeper and performed the initial root back.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
Here are more options and a discussion on the subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148167&highlight=ota+rootkeeper
and another where a user directly mentions success using OTA RootKeeper:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2152397&highlight=ota+rootkeeper
Since you are already rooted you have a couple choices. Flash an updated stock rooted ROM or go custom ROM that is updated. No need to lose your root to upgrade ROM.
And, to add to the above, here's a YouTube video explaining OTA Rootkeeper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky5miA8ilr0&feature=em-subs_digest
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Just go AOKP instead
All my devices run AOKP, and I have never looked back.
Can having flashed TWRP 2.5.0.2 or a CWM based recovery in any way hinder/stop OTA updates or re-stock
via un-root and KIES and/or ODIN? Please overlook any obvious inherent stupidity in the question becsuse if I knew I
Wouldn't have asked. Give me something and I should be able to search out the rest.
Thanks for the help...
numbR7 said:
Can having flashed TWRP 2.5.0.2 or a CWM based recovery in any way hinder/stop OTA updates or re-stock
via un-root and KIES and/or ODIN? Please overlook any obvious inherent stupidity in the question becsuse if I knew I
Wouldn't have asked. Give me something and I should be able to search out the rest.
Thanks for the help...
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Do A search for blocking the OTA, also normally when your on a Rooted rom, (NORMALLY) it stops the OTA's:victory:
if you are rooted, you should never take any OTA updates period...
you will likely lose root, the update may or may not complete, and it can cause problems, especially for someone new to rooting and android..
Eventually most dev's incorporate all the beneficial stuff from any ota update into their releases, so I never understand why people who are rooted even bother trying to make ota updates work on their phones..
does that answer help you out?
wase4711 said:
if you are rooted, you should never take any OTA updates period...
you will likely lose root, the update may or may not complete, and it can cause problems, especially for someone new to rooting and android..
Eventually most dev's incorporate all the beneficial stuff from any ota update into their releases, so I never understand why people who are rooted even bother trying to make ota updates work on their phones..
does that answer help you out?
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Yes I'm starting to get a better picture
But my concern is say we get key lime pie or some super wamandyne
update I want to be assured tha t I could:
1. un-root
2. Re-stock via ODIN
3. Udate via KIES
numbR7 said:
Yes I'm starting to get a better picture
But my concern is say we get key lime pie or some super wamandyne
update I want to be assured tha t I could:
1. un-root
2. Re-stock via ODIN
3. Udate via KIES
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Oops, hit the thanks button by accident.
Anyways, you can always flash back to stock with Odin.
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numbR7 said:
Yes I'm starting to get a better picture
But my concern is say we get key lime pie or some super wamandyne
update I want to be assured tha t I could:
1. un-root
2. Re-stock via ODIN
3. Udate via KIES
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That will work, just remember you'll likely lose the ability to re flash you recovery or kernel since any update is likely to invlude a patched bootloader.
numbR7 said:
Yes I'm starting to get a better picture
But my concern is say we get key lime pie or some super wamandyne
update I want to be assured tha t I could:
1. un-root
2. Re-stock via ODIN
3. Udate via KIES
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Keep in mind...we at xda usually get updates long before official users due to stock firmware leaks...so with that said we will likely have key lime pie touchwiz roms before its officially released
Also most importantly...if some super crazy ota like key lime pie is released...it will also very likely include patches to current exploits not allowing you to root or flash roms again until new exploits are discovered (our root method motochopper has already been patched by Verizon) - so if tour into flashing and rooting its always highly advised to not update until a dev gives the ok...
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I got my S4 on release day and I have been really reluctant to root because I am happy with the way the phone is. But now I am tempted to root for 2 reasons. I want to be able to use every app in the multi window view and to be able to move stuff to the SD card.
So my question is....If i just root my phone but dont put and rom or recovery on it what would I need to do if Android or Samsung released an update? The update would not work if I was rooted correct? Can someone link me on the process I would need to do to be able to install such an update?
I believe there are root method which allows OTAs but you ll loose the root and you might need to re root again. If the root doesnt support OTAs then you will have to flahs stock firmware then update then root again.
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chris_marsh said:
I believe there are root method which allows OTAs but you ll loose the root and you might need to re root again. If the root doesnt support OTAs then you will have to flahs stock firmware then update then root again.
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Ok so for example if I followed QB Kings video in the Android Development Forum on rooting my S4 do you know if that root would allow for OTA's? I going back in forth in my head on if I should root or not. On one hand I would want these extra features I mentioned but on the other hand is it worth the hassle of dealing with the OTA update process.
Based on my limited knowledge, it is possible that if you take OTA, you may not be able to root again (if the OTA patches that root exploit). Hopefully the awesome Devs on here will be able to find another exploit, but it is possible that you may not be able to re-root.
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Ok so for example if I followed QB Kings video in the Android Development Forum on rooting my S4 do you know if that root would allow for OTA's? I going back in forth in my head on if I should root or not. On one hand I would want these extra features I mentioned but on the other hand is it worth the hassle of dealing with the OTA update process.
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Sorry no idea about that method. You should ask in that thread you might will get proper info. And BTW OTA for now are provided fast but as everybody knows it takes a while for Samsung to roll out important OTAs so you might as well root than sit hoping for OTA while missing all the modding action.
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chris_marsh said:
Sorry no idea about that method. You should ask in that thread you might will get proper info. And BTW OTA for now are provided fast but as everybody knows it takes a while for Samsung to roll out important OTAs so you might as well root than sit hoping for OTA while missing all the modding action.
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Very good point in not waiting around for an OTA...they do take long as hell to push out....and I will ask in the QB King thread to see how OTAs work with that root process...Thanks so much