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Simply, should I buy this Tablet? I was going to get a Nook Color. But after having a Duel Core Device, running ICS. Can't go back to single core. The Nook Color Tablet can't be hacked as of now. But this device is 200 USD. Has MIUI, CM7, ICS. Even if some are beta. Its better than most. Id only use it for Netflix, N64oid, Gmail, Youtube, etc.
So should I make it my Tablet?
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All I can tell you is I like it. Runs great with CM7.
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You should probably consider there are some other devices coming out soon-ish (End of Q1, beginning of Q2) you might want to wait for such as the Asus MeMo 370t. Competition's about to get real heated in the 7-inch market segment.
That said, I've spent a good month or so with my Kindle Fire and it's worked wonders so far. CM7 is smooth as hell and pretty much fully functional, and while CM9 is on the works and has some kinks to work out, it's also a pretty solid start as it is now. Rooting is pretty much effortless and fool-proof, and I don't regret getting it for a second; it's a brilliant media-oriented tablet and it's handled every game I've thrown at it without a single second of lag as well.
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You should probably consider there are some other devices coming out soon-ish (End of Q1, beginning of Q2) you might want to wait for such as the Asus MeMo 370t. Competition's about to get real heated in the 7-inch market segment.
That said, I've spent a good month or so with my Kindle Fire and it's worked wonders so far. CM7 is smooth as hell and pretty much fully functional, and while CM9 is on the works and has some kinks to work out, it's also a pretty solid start as it is now. Rooting is pretty much effortless and fool-proof, and I don't regret getting it for a second; it's a brilliant media-oriented tablet and it's handled every game I've thrown at it without a single second of lag as well.
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You bring up a good point, I'm wanting a 7" Tablet. There's so many coming out. But I want something with a strong Dev team. I've made the Mistake of thinking all fourms where like the HD2, G2, and G1.
Is there any news about an Offical CM9 Rom?
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AgentCherryColla said:
You bring up a good point, I'm wanting a 7" Tablet. There's so many coming out. But I want something with a strong Dev team. I've made the Mistake of thinking all fourms where like the HD2, G2, and G1.
Is there any news about an Offical CM9 Rom?
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there aren't any official CM9 Rom
but I beleve it just a matter of time
here is the link of the progress
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411895)
Love my kindle don't get me wrong. But just so you know the Nook is hackable it just takes some work.
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The current ICS rom in development is good enough to be a daily driver. I've been using it without any problems. It's been very stable for me.
Kindle Fire has a strong dev community and is very popular. Amazon sold many, many units. That being said, The ASUS tablet seems like a dream machine.. but it's not coming out for a while.
This device is just perfect for me!
If you like 7" (fits in my inner pocket), no sound buttons and if you can stand an alpha version of ICS, then it's perfect for you aswell!
The screen is very touch responsive, good light levels, high dpi (good for reading pdf) and the device feels sturdy in your hand. I get well over the specified 7-8 hours of usage, especially when I lower the light level to a minimum (still sufficient).
I recommend the Kindle Fire Lightweight MicroShell Folio Cover by Marware, Graphite which makes the device lean and has a nice feel over it.
My Aunt is buying one, so Ill get a 1st hand look at it. But I think my minds made up. Kindle Fire Hopefully they get the Bluetooth radio up and running
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I dig it, wish it had cameras, but I like it. Like it more after rooting and installing the Google apps and sync working with contacts and calendar.
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I really like the Kindle Fire. Like others have said, it would be nice if it didn't skimp on hardware devices like cameras, etc. but then it wouldn't be $199.
They do need to make the UI a little better. Native Swype keyboard support would go a long way.
I tend not to look towards upcoming products when it comes to electronics because while on page they may appear attractive, one cannot forsee their performance/relability.
I buy something that is fairly current and put it through its paces during the alloted return period. Something can obviously happen afterwards with it but I'm comfortable knowing I had the opportunity to try it and I like it without wondering what other forthcoming product works or when it truly will become available for that matter.
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I tend not to look towards upcoming products when it comes to electronics because while on page they may appear attractive, one cannot forsee their performance/relability.
I buy something that is fairly current and put it through its paces during the alloted return period. Something can obviously happen afterwards with it but I'm comfortable knowing I had the opportunity to try it and I like it without wondering what other forthcoming product works or when it truly will become available for that matter.
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A strong dev community is always positive! That way, even if the manufacturer screws up, you'll still have support.
I'm looking to get my first Android tablet. I've always rooted and run custom firmware on my Android phones, so I need a "cheap" Android tablet with a healthy developer community and a lot of support.
My first thought was to go for the $250 Nook Tablet, spec for spec it's better than the Kindle Fire; but didn't an update come out for it recently that made rooting it near impossible or so highly difficult that it hasn't been done yet?
Then the $200 Kindle Fire came to mind, very popular tablet must mean a very healthy/active hacking/dev community right? But isn't it also locked down in such a way it can't be rooted or modified anymore? I need a working Android Market (Oh I'm sorry, I mean <sarcasm>Play Store</sarcasm>) and good custom ROM's including ICS.
Then I see a $189 Lenovo A1 Tablet at Best Buy with decent specs. It's running Android 2.3 which I'd normally prefer over Android 3.0/Honeycomb but now that ICS/Android 4.0 is out, I'd definately want to run that on my tablet.
So is ICS running very good/stable on any sub $300 Android tablet? I wonder when the $250 Tegra3 based tablet from Asus (or is it Acer...) comes out. Suggestions on which route to go?
I'm interested in this too. Are you not interested in going the used route though?
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I'm interested in this too. Are you not interested in going the used route though?
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I have no issues with going used, in fact it could even be preferred. I can get a used Kindle Fire from the local Craigslist for $140-$160.
I can get a $250 Nook Tablet (not the new cheaper one) for about $195 on Craigslist.
I wonder what the status is of Android on the HP TouchPad's are, did they get Android 4.0/ICS running on it? The HW specs are quite good.
I am very happy with CM9 on my HP Touch pad..
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I am very happy with CM9 on my HP Touch pad..
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Not to hijack this thread, I know I'm in a Kindle Fire forum, but what are the known issues with CM9 on the HP Touchpad? The HP Touchpads specs are superior to the Kindle Fire's (naturally considering the Touchpad is originally a $500 tablet), but CM9 on the Kindle Fire only has 3 known issues (HW Acceleration, 720p video and Bluetooth); Doesn't CM9 on the HP Touchpad have a lot more known issues "HD Video/codecs not working, Speaker farting noise when screen is off, Wifi hit or miss, Sound still has some major issues to be worked on, Camera doesn't work yet (therefore no skype and what not), Reboot to recovery hit or miss, No Mic"?
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Suggestions on which route to go?
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You are in KF forum, so probably most common answer will be Kindle Fire
Anyway, IMHO
KF pros
Very good build quality
Powerful proc
Gorilla glass & good screen
Price
Existence of excellent CM7 ROM (see my sig)
ICS on the way
KF contra
No SD card slot
No bluetooth and never will be
No USB support (as far as I know there are theoretical possibilities to hack this).
Personaly I am very pleased with KF for $200
I thing you would get a better Tablet for 350 $. Maybe the huwei Mediapad wich is pretty awsome.
But the Kindle had a very good dev community.
I dont like the Lenovo A1, of course the community is ok, but hardware is not so good as the fire one is. Take a look at the Display its awfull and the CPU is a single core.
I buy a used Fire in germany for about 190$ and they sell a new A1 for about 180$ here.
Look at the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1545172 Hashcode is in development for a 3.0 kernel, dont know if somwone does for Lenevo.
no matter ICS is tunning very well with the 2.6 kernel
My only con with kf is connecting to wifi. I heard it was a kernel thing and it may also be my router. Hopefully it gets fixed with the new 3.0 kernel, if not I'm thinking of selling my kf. It's a good device, but it gets really annoying when I can't connect, makes it pointless
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It is actually super easy to root the kindle fire
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My only con with kf is connecting to wifi. I heard it was a kernel thing and it may also be my router. Hopefully it gets fixed with the new 3.0 kernel, if not I'm thinking of selling my kf. It's a good device, but it gets really annoying when I can't connect, makes it pointless
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I never had a problem to connect to any wifi. Explain your issue.
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My only con with kf is connecting to wifi. I heard it was a kernel thing and it may also be my router. Hopefully it gets fixed with the new 3.0 kernel, if not I'm thinking of selling my kf. It's a good device, but it gets really annoying when I can't connect, makes it pointless
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i used to have the same problem i started using raven's kernal now no problems it actually will now connect to my home and work and switch between the 2 without doing anything. this may or maynot help but worth a try
I wouldn't recommend the fire unless you plan on using it as Amazon intended with prime. Most apps do not behave right on CM7 and the lack of volume controls make it even worse.
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I'd hold out for the "Nexus Tablet" that is supposedly launching very soon. It's rumored to be like the Kindle Fire size-wise, run Tegra 3, and be $150!
I'm on cm9 from bl1nk thread and if one of my rooms in my house has a weak wifi signal I'll lose connection. I noticed in a few days of flashing a rom it gets worse and worse. I'm going to try another kernel like someone suggested, see if that helps
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I'd hold out for the "Nexus Tablet" that is supposedly launching very soon. It's rumored to be like the Kindle Fire size-wise, run Tegra 3, and be $150!
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That will be pretty sweet if it's true
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Kindle can be rooted easily
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Then the $200 Kindle Fire came to mind, very popular tablet must mean a very healthy/active hacking/dev community right? But isn't it also locked down in such a way it can't be rooted or modified anymore? I need a working Android Market (Oh I'm sorry, I mean <sarcasm>Play Store</sarcasm>) and good custom ROM's including ICS.
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I actually rooted my Kindle fire on the newest 6.2.2 update (it did take me a little while cause it's the first time ive used a computer to root) and I even got ICS to work on it swimmingly... but i took it off because it's still in beta. As for the market every single app ive downloaded from there works too.
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I wouldn't recommend the fire unless you plan on using it as Amazon intended with prime. Most apps do not behave right on CM7 and the lack of volume controls make it even worse.
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Disagree completely. I have had CM7 on two Kindles for months now with absolutely zero problems. If you experienced problems with "most apps" then I am guessing you had serious user errors, not CM or KF errors. Plus, having an onscreen volume slider with the Volume Control app works beautifully.
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Not to hijack this thread, I know I'm in a Kindle Fire forum, but what are the known issues with CM9 on the HP Touchpad? The HP Touchpads specs are superior to the Kindle Fire's (naturally considering the Touchpad is originally a $500 tablet), but CM9 on the Kindle Fire only has 3 known issues (HW Acceleration, 720p video and Bluetooth); Doesn't CM9 on the HP Touchpad have a lot more known issues "HD Video/codecs not working, Speaker farting noise when screen is off, Wifi hit or miss, Sound still has some major issues to be worked on, Camera doesn't work yet (therefore no skype and what not), Reboot to recovery hit or miss, No Mic"?
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The TouchPad's version of CM9 took a few revisions for hardware acceleration for HD video content, but alpha 2 fixed that. I've been using the TouchPad's since alpha 0.5 as a daily driver. In all those revisions and ROMs I have never had the speaker issue you mention in android. Before CM9 I would get that occasionally in webOS. I have only had wifi issues with CM7, CM9 and webOS have had solid stable wifi. From what I understand its more about the router channel than anything else. Overlapping SSIDs on the same channel causes the issue, and changing the channel on the router usually fixes it. My sound is great. Now that HW accel works HD YouTube looks and sounds great. Hulu+ and Netflix look great and sound perfect. There is no camera support, and I think that's very low on the priority list. You can always switch to webOS for video chat. Note that you cannot remove webOS, you dual boot. That's part of the issue with reboot to recovery. You cannot boot directly into recovery. When you power up you get a boot menu, after 5 seconds android boots. But, from that menu you can select recovery or webOS. I use a delay of 1 second because its very rare for me to need to boot to recovery or webOS. I have never checked the mic, so I can't comment on that, again though, it will work in webOS. With the TP don't discount webOS. Its stable, snappy, elegant, and intuitive. I thought it was better than CM7. The only thing it lacks is apps. The browser is great, and supports flash.
On Black Friday I had a Kindle Fire in my cart on Amazon, hoping for a black Friday deal. I saw an ad for the TouchPad for $99, and after 30 seconds of research I knew I wanted that instead. I ended up getting one for $195 NIB. To me a tablet is mainly an internet device, and a web browsing device. The 10" vs 7" screen makes a world of difference. Its still just as portable, but that extra screen makes web browsing basically desktop class. The TouchPad also has the TouchStone, the inductive charger. I never have to mess with cables, and never see battery below 75% because after a few hours of use I put it on the charger. Those sold for $90 new, but you can get then $40 easy. Plus the HP case is really nice for $15 usually. To me is was a no brainer. But I'm someone that has been on xda for years, flashing a ROM every week. When my family ask what to get I always recommend the Kindle Fire over the nook, and over the TP. The Amazon app store alone tips the scales over any nook advantage. But, those are users that need the device to work out of box, and consistently, without any hacking. I would still bet on the Kindle Fire getting more support here.
Sorry to derail the thread ...
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ive got a Kindle Fire and for 200 bucks, you cant beat it. i rooted mine before the update, so i dont know how difficult it is to root on 6.2.2 (which i believe is the newest firmware), but i believe someone has gotten it done
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Disagree completely. I have had CM7 on two Kindles for months now with absolutely zero problems. If you experienced problems with "most apps" then I am guessing you had serious user errors, not CM or KF errors. Plus, having an onscreen volume slider with the Volume Control app works beautifully.
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Right lol...If your intention is rooting and using cm, buying a first gen android tablet for about the same price makes much more sense. It is something with the aspect ratio, I had numerous apps not behave correctly when going from landscape to portrait, and the software volume control options on cm7 were hideous. The tablet is great if you intend on using it in conjunction with prime as amazon intended though.
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guys need som help..i donno which one of these following to choose..kindle fire or nook tablet..my prime purpose is gaming..i dont want hw the stock devices perform coz i m gonna straightaway root d device n put a custom rom if just installing apks wont work..i want the device that is easier to go for gaming as soon as taking it out of the box..and also pls give me any links wer i can get hd games 4 free..no fkin surveys please..i m fed up of that..
Kindle fire... just wait until ICS kernel is done then it will be perfect.
Id go with the Kindle...
The kindle fire has a less cheapy feel to the design than the nook, plus developers are REALLY on top of things (ICS is already in beta ) and i heard the partitioning for the nook is really wierd (only 1 GB to store your own content).
I know we are in the Kindle Fire forum here, but I would be remiss if I didn't mention the HP TouchPad. Its got more horse power (processor and RAM), bigger screen, more storage (albeit nook has a microSD slot), and IMO bigger dev following than either of the other two. They still sell NIB for $200-$250 depending on source. Local classifieds seems to be consistently less than online places like Amazon or eBay.
But after using family members' of both the Nook and Fire, I would have to say if those are your two options I vote fire. Something about the Nook just doesn't feel as good in hand to me. If you go the mostly stock route I also find the navigation of the Fire to be much better.
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The fire has a finished cm7, NT is still building it. We have a solid ics port, NT is still in alpha. I thought long n hard, n the fire was the solid winner.
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Kindle fire all the way! Cyanogenmod, ICS, its all good. Plus the product quality is much better. I have a friend who has a nook tablet and he hates it. Amazon has made the kindle with quality components compared to the cheap stuff Barnes and nobles makes
Even flashing the stock rooted Rom is nice. So you have stock rooted, cm7, and ics.
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nook tablet all the way it has good screen plus sd card support
don't compromise build quality over sd support plus good screen
I would say wait a month and see what google releases. But between the two you mentioned, kindle fire. It is all about the ecosystem.
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Don't know much about the Nook but after the success I had rooting my Kindle Fire and flashing CM7, I went out and bought another one for the sole purpose of testing new roms. Its very stable, sturdy and powerful...and most importantly, inexpensive.
The only downside IMO is the lack of a camera and microphone, but what can you expect from a reader?
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Don't know much about the Nook but after the success I had rooting my Kindle Fire and flashing CM7, I went out and bought another one for the sole purpose of testing new roms. Its very stable, sturdy and powerful...and most importantly, inexpensive.
The only downside IMO is the lack of a camera and microphone, but what can you expect from a reader?
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The volume control options on cm builds are awful in my opinion.
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Kindle fire. Nook tablet doesnt have many rom like KF
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4zm2NVGFaU
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You should give us a written review. Even just some main points. Your video looks very detailed. I'm in a place where I can't listen to audio right now
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What's the point in comparing hardware when the key problem with the Kindle fire is the **** content selection and locked in ecosystem.. Frankly only an idiot would buy one.
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CrazyPeter said:
What's the point in comparing hardware when the key problem with the Kindle fire is the **** content selection and locked in ecosystem.. Frankly only an idiot would buy one.
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Lol.. You just branded a few mil folks
Doesn't rooting solve the problem? Not sure, I don't have one, but I want to know for future reference..
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Doesn't rooting solve the problem? Not sure, I don't have one, but I want to know for future reference..
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You're correct that rooting it will get you a more or less ”generic” Android experience. But you'll still be left with a device that was designed with the closed Amazon ecosystem in mind, limited RAM, only 1 button (power), no expansion (microSD or SDHC), etc. Not a horrible choice if you're looking for Android cheap but there are a number of $250 ”real” Android devices available with GPS, vibration, full sensor array, some flavor of Android from the start instead of the Amazon overlay etc.
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CrazyPeter said:
What's the point in comparing hardware when the key problem with the Kindle fire is the **** content selection and locked in ecosystem.. Frankly only an idiot would buy one.
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ur see in the video kindle holds up with the ee pad with ics
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Lol.. You just branded a few mil folks
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Yep, too many people only buy what they know.. Kindle owners are, really no better than ipad owners in this respect.
What idiot would buy a new car that you could only gas up at a specific filling station? That no different to the ipad and kindle.
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Sorry to say but this is pointless and strange. The Transformer is a real tablet and if you want that, there's no comparison. On the other hand if you want to read ebooks only and byuing from Amazon only, then you go the Kindle way.
I think some of you are missing the point of the video.
On both devices ICS was installed and the performance was compared doing the same tasks.
In most cases the kindle held up with the transformer and in some it was even faster! Not bad for a device half the price.
This video on the TF forum, what did you expect people to say? It would be a totally different story if posted on kindle fire forum. Pointless topic in my mind, just saying.
My eee pad was 250 at best buy on black Friday 2011. Who would ever buy a kindle lmao?!
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Sorry to say but this is pointless and strange. The Transformer is a real tablet and if you want that, there's no comparison. On the other hand if you want to read ebooks only and byuing from Amazon only, then you go the Kindle way.
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Again, there are a whole load of BETTER e-readers than the Kindle.
Just because that's the only brand you know, doesn't mean it's the best..
Sony do very nice e-readers, the Kobo are the same price as the kindles, and both support the superior EPUB format.
New Transformer user here. I had a Kindle Fire until recently (sold it on eBay) and tried a few ICS builds after rooting the tablet. Sure, ICS worked on it, but the video in the OP definitely doesn't tell the whole story. Stability certainly was a problem: I experienced many FCs and a lot of tablet-specific apps just wouldn't run properly on it.
Devs (as usual) are (still) doing great work to make the KF a nice entry-level tablet, and for the price, you won't find a better deal (especially if you are willing to buy a used or refurb model). The KF community at XDA is VERY responsive, which is a definite plus. However, I just didn't find it as fast as when I was using the stock ROM or alternate GB-based ROMs available for the KF (Hellfire's builds were really good). Without the availability of a 3.x kernel offering full HWA (I know devs are working on this), performance wasn't that great, especially after I loaded up the tablet with 60-70 apps I typically use on my phone.
I parted with the KF mainly because I found its screen size too small (I've developed a taste for reading magazines and the like). At the end of the day, I was willing to sacrifice portability for more screen estate, as well as better storage options and support for future Android updates. Time will tell if I made the right choice.
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Sony do very nice e-readers, the Kobo are the same price as the kindles, and both support the superior EPUB format.
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I've used all three, and frankly, the best e-reader I owned was (by far) the Kindle 3 keyboard. If you know what you are doing, you can convert books in the proper format (using something like Calibre) or use a third-party ROM to read .epub files on it natively, so file format wasn't an issue for me. Amazon's online selection is top notch, way better than anyone else out there including Barnes and Noble, Chapters, etc.
The Kobo Touch was a close second, but had a lot of firmware issues: the last version I used before giving mine away seemed to fix most of them (especially the highly annoying page turning bug that crept up at some point). The hardware is nice though, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend one.
The Sony e-reader was just garbage, I had to return it twice after both units died on me. I will never buy any other e-reader from the company.
it holds up well
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Sorry to say but this is pointless and strange. The Transformer is a real tablet and if you want that, there's no comparison. On the other hand if you want to read ebooks only and byuing from Amazon only, then you go the Kindle way.
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To call it "pointless and strange" comes off pretty harsh, but I sort of agree a little. It is a bit of an apple to oranges comparison, I think, mainly because the screen resolutions aren't the same. The ASUS has to produce 1280x800 (1,024,000 square pixels) output all the time while the Kindle produces 1024x600 (614,400 square pixels). In their respective web browsers, for example, more of the page has to be rendered on the ASUS display than on the Kindle's. Yet, the pinch zoom is a bit stuttery on the Kindle, as the video mentioned. I wonder if it's because something on the Kindle's ICS is not optimized for the device.
For the best e-readers, I think they have to be the ones with the e-Ink displays. It's both because of the display and because of their extremely light weight. They are lacking multi-functionally, but they do their one thing (e-reading) extremely well.
My mom has a Kindle, I have a TF101 w/ dock. The differences between the two are almost night and day in some aspects.
I can do anything I want with my TF101. The dock helps with battery and some other things such as office suite on the go and gaming. Streaming movies through Netflix and watching Youtube. Hooking the tab to a TV with the HDMI support. It is the optimum tablet style for any uber geek and Android fan. There are still kernel issues due to being an outdated kernel without fixes from ASUS or a real update that helps to correct any of the core problems and even created more under 4.0.3. AOKP, CM9 and Megatron are sorting them out as well as Guevor and Testymeh kernels in development. Others are working as well, but not as quickly as the current scne is developing for the TF101. Great things are still to come.
The Kindle ICS is missing some driver support due to an outdated kernel and no ICS source available from Amazon. Hash and other developers are all working on getting HWA to work, which does cause quite a few issues all around in ICS since it uses a different process to manipulate hardware and software. They are modifying source from similar devices with matching hardware and going from there. The Kindle is just as well to play games or download movies and books. Now that HWA is getting out, Netflix and other things, even the web browser, should start working as intended. You're also running hardware with limited memory than to how it was designed. I think they had to engineer a driver that would allow hardware to run at it's full potential with smaller ram and swapability due to Kindle limitations. (I spend a lot of time with my mom's Kindle to make sure it runs at least similar to how I would run it.
Either offering is good depending on the person's wants and needs. I do admit, after seeing a Kindle in action, I am glad I have a much higher expectation of my electronics. No respect lost, but I'm not on the same spectrum.
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on this link i show my wifes fire is not too bad with ics
Mine came in this morning. Been playing with it for a couple of hours now. The screen is OK, but not as good as my New iPad, but that is to be expected. I did have it crash on me after installing Netflix and signing into it. I do like the fact that it is already registered to your Amazon account out of the box. I only had to connect to WiFi. Turning off adds is done on amazon.com under manage Kindle, which I did. the interface is VERY sparse. I was able to grab cisco Anyconnect VPN, but haven't tested it yet with my MiFi (I'm already at work). The initial setup and download really drags the tablet almost to a halt. But after that it's back to normal speeds. All in all, I still want a custom ROM of JB on here. I have Skype installed but haven't call anyone yet. Also, the speakers ARE AWESOME. I work in IT and all the guys loved the sound coming from this puppy! Streamed Downton Abbey without hiccups or buffering. Quite nice. No buyers remorse yet.
Cool! Can you side load app and install a different launcher like you could with the last fire?
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Jut got mine too.
Love it so far
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Mine came in this morning. Been playing with it for a couple of hours now. The screen is OK, but not as good as my New iPad, but that is to be expected. I did have it crash on me after installing Netflix and signing into it. I do like the fact that it is already registered to your Amazon account out of the box. I only had to connect to WiFi. Turning off adds is done on amazon.com under manage Kindle, which I did. the interface is VERY sparse. I was able to grab cisco Anyconnect VPN, but haven't tested it yet with my MiFi (I'm already at work). The initial setup and download really drags the tablet almost to a halt. But after that it's back to normal speeds. All in all, I still want a custom ROM of JB on here. I have Skype installed but haven't call anyone yet. Also, the speakers ARE AWESOME. I work in IT and all the guys loved the sound coming from this puppy! Streamed Downton Abbey without hiccups or buffering. Quite nice. No buyers remorse yet.
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I just got mine on my way home from Best Buy. So far from what I can tell it's a bit to locked down for my taste
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So, I'm an owner of an original fire, got it as a Christmas present from my wife last year. I sold it a few weeks ago planning on getting the N7, but waited for the amazon presser about the new line.
After watching the live blog and all that, figured I'd give the KF another shot, and if I didn't like it, I'd return it and get the N7. After playing with this new KF for the past few hours, it's awesome, so much better than the original, for what I use it for. I like the new email client, the screen is fantastic, it's snappy and feels very cohesive and not so much an interface stuck on top of an andriod OS, even though it is.
So far, I'm impressed.
Yeah I just got mine as well and played around with it for about 10 minutes. So far the screen is gorgeous and the software isn't as laggy as the preview models that were shown in the videos. And the default web browser search engine for me was already set to Google. I'll post up more impressions in a bit.
Don't forget to update to 7.1.5. The sound on this device is freaking awesome...
Got mine today too...initial experiences:
- Side-loaded OnLive 1.2 and it works flawlessly
- Side-loaded Zinio reader from the Zinio.com site, but it FC several times...not usable. Emailed Zinio support
- Really want Rdio somehow, but haven't found the APK. Amazon Store says its not compatible.
- Fully MP3 library totally accessible and interface nice
- Amazon Prime Video works wonderfully but the series interface isn't so great...would like an easier way to tell were I left off on my Sons of Anarchy catch-up.
- Hulu Plus works but playback is janky--just isn't smooth or integrated
- I personally find the overall interface skinned nicely, but clumsy to navigate....coming from Gingerbread, Jelly Bean and iOS.
Looking forward to lots of crazy hacks to really push the hardware on this puppy!
scottpletcher said:
Looking forward to lots of crazy hacks to really push the hardware on this puppy!
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My question is if you're going to hack, why not hack a better hardware tablet like the nexus 7?
Better hardware?
shook187 said:
My question is if you're going to hack, why not hack a better hardware tablet like the nexus 7?
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The OMAP 4460 in the 7" hd has a stronger gpu (clocked higher) than the tegra 3 as well as hdmi out and dual band wi-fi. What are you referring to when you mention that the nexus 7 is a stronger hardware platform?
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The OMAP 4460 in the 7" hd has a stronger gpu (clocked higher) than the tegra 3 as well as hdmi out and dual band wi-fi. What are you referring to when you mention that the nexus 7 is a stronger hardware platform?
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I was the for to my weak ass Quadrant score
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pandapoo said:
The OMAP 4460 in the 7" hd has a stronger gpu (clocked higher) than the tegra 3 as well as hdmi out and dual band wi-fi. What are you referring to when you mention that the nexus 7 is a stronger hardware platform?
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Interesting quote from a reviewer
This is a Wi-Fi-only device that Amazon has packed with dual antennas, support for MIMO and reception in both the 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands in an attempt to speed up the connection. Despite that, I found Web browsing to be noticeably slower than on the Nexus 7 -- so in my experience, at least, that hardware addition is for naught.
The device is missing some prominent hardware features that its competitors have, such as GPS. The Kindle Fire HD's processor is far from leading-edge: a 1.2Ghz dual-core OMAP 4460 Texas Instruments processor, compared to the more powerful quad-core Tegra 3 processor that powers the Nexus 7. After several hours of use, I found the tablet seemed to suffer occasional lags when opening apps and on occasion when using apps. Restarting the device solved the problem, but then the lags eventually reappeared.
The middling-level hardware isn't as surprising as you might expect, because the Kindle Fire HD hasn't really been designed to be an all-purpose tablet -- despite Amazon's claims to the contrary. Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos summed up the purpose of the Kindle Fire HD succinctly during the product announcement when he said, "The Kindle Fire is a service."
http://m.computerworld.com/s/articl...&hl=en&gl=us&tab=wn&q=kindle%20fire%20hd&sa=N
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shook187 said:
My question is if you're going to hack, why not hack a better hardware tablet like the nexus 7?
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Hehe, I may do that too. That's why somehow I have a Motorola Xoom, iPad 2, iPad 3, Kindle Original, Nook Touch, Galaxy Note, Motorola Razr Maxx, and Galaxy Nexus.
The Fire HD appealed to be because I wanted more or less a dedicated reading device that also does other stuff. The antiglare screen looks pretty good so far and that was a plus for me. Now, if I can only get it to run Zinio stable, then I'll have pretty much achieved my goal.
I can deal with the text layout of Business Week from Amazon on the Fire, but for my other two magazines--Outside and National Geographic--I really want the full color magazine experience since its so much about the photography. Zinio's resolution is just so much higher than the same magazine pages via the Amazon Kindle app. I think Zinio uses vector for the layout where it appears Amazon is rasterized.
shook187 said:
My question is if you're going to hack, why not hack a better hardware tablet like the nexus 7?
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16gb vs 8gb for $199, much better sound, apparently better screen, hdmi, possibly better build quality. and maybe a better camera.
versus gps and Tegra 3.(not sure if Tegra 3 is usefully better other than Tegra-only games).
I like them both but I really want the better sound and hdmi, and hacking would eliminate one of the main advantages of the Nexus 7 which is the larger app selection.
I got mine today. Too locked down for my tastes but a root in the near future will take care of that. I like that I can "borrow" books from Amazon and watch whatever prime videos that are in Amazon's catalog. Micro hdmi works great, screen looks fantastic, the speakers sound pretty good and I can fit the 7" in a cargo pocket. Overall, I think it's a good buy for $199.