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Should I buy a Kindle Fire?

Hey guys, I am considering whether or not buying a KF. Honestly, it will not be used as a reader or used with any of Amazon's services. Rather I am buying it to have a solid piece of hardware that runs the Android operating system and hoping to see Kindle specific roms in the future (CM7 gives me hope). This will be a toy to use for media and occasionally on the go. Is it worth buying in hopes of future developing and tinkering?

Anyone have any input?

Just got mine yesterday and I would say yes it is worth the price tag for what you want to do. I rooted mine and put cm7 on it within minutes of opening it and haven't looked back.
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What is the status of CM7 at this point? Is it fully functional?
I'd want to install CM7 and use SetCPU (if anyone has overclocked this thing yet).

I think the Kindle Fire is a great device for the cheap price.
I have my Kindle Fire for about 2 Weeks. At first i rooted the device and used Go Launcher Ex for a while, but I didn't like it. Then i decided to use CM7. It is very usable I think. There some problems with the MAC address and some forced closes sometimes.
Today i flashed the early Version of ICS from JackpotClavin. It is very smooth and with ICS the Kindle Fire feels like a Tablet. With CM7 the Kindle Fire feels like a big smartphone for me. ICS isn't finished yet and there are some problems with sdcard and forced closes.
If you can wait until the Custom Roms are more perfect I think the Kindle Fire is a good decision to buy.

I bought mine to use solely as a tablet. I installed cm7 as soon as it was avaliable and haven't looked back. i bought it without any intention if using any of amazon's services. it's a great tablet plus it fits in a pocket. dual core, so it can run 720p h264 very well. plus with the overclock it'll be even better. the only complaint i have is it doesn't have an sd card slot, so you only have like 8-10 gigs of space to put stuff on, but it's not a big problem for me. cm7 is very stable. I have no fc's that i can remember, video works, sound works, plus there's a cifs module compiled so you can even mount samba shares. definately worth it in my opinion.

Matt V said:
Hey guys, I am considering whether or not buying a KF. Honestly, it will not be used as a reader or used with any of Amazon's services. Rather I am buying it to have a solid piece of hardware that runs the Android operating system and hoping to see Kindle specific roms in the future (CM7 gives me hope). This will be a toy to use for media and occasionally on the go. Is it worth buying in hopes of future developing and tinkering?
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I have put four of these on my network at home everyone always waiting for workstation time. Now more than enough browsers for everyone. They have been rock solid so far. Running CM7 rom on all of them.

Yes, it's the best tablet you can buy for 200 dollars. An iPad is not 2.5 times better than it. I honestly think if you know your way around adb it is a magical device, with endless possibilities. Buy one, you won't regret it.

Using splashtop and orb to stream, I haven't put the thing down. I never need to leave the couch. Best thing I ever bought for light browsing, massive media, and email. I'm always around wifi so the 5.5 gig memory constraint is not a problem. ymmv with what you intend to do with it.
Edit: Orb has a beta apk on their website if you don't want to buy. It works great on the fire, worth the money if you decide to buy since no memory card.
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Buy it!
It's great value for money. I've put CM7 on mine and now it's a pretty nifty tablet. In any case, I couldn't use any of Amazon's services (apart from buying books) being outside the US.
I own a few other tablets and the only features I miss on the Fire are the lack of hardware volume controls and mic. Otherwise, the performance of the tab (with CM7) is great and the size is pretty convenient too. It definitely doesn't feel like a cheap tablet.

Thanks for the replies guys, I decided to pull the trigger on one and it will be here Friday.
CM7 appears to not have functioning sound so I'm just gonna root it for now and wait until a fully functional ROM is released, shouldn't be long. ICS looks promising as well.

Read the "Standing on the shoulders of giants" CM7 thread. Sound and hardware acceleration are working just fine.
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Oh, I guess I watched an older video then that said it didn't work.

Love mine! Just got it for christmas. get it!
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Kindle Fire vs. Nook Tablet

I am looking at buying either one of these. I like the way the kindle fire looks better, but I don't like it's lack of sd card support. They both seem to have good development for rooted users and I plan on rooting. I am leaning towards the Nook, but haven't decided for sure yet. Please offer your opinions and why you would choose one over the other.
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Nook = locked bootloader. Not for me.
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It's also $50 more. I like the Gorilla Glass the Kindle has a well. Does the Nook have that?

Yup
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hrbib21 said:
Nook = locked bootloader. Not for me.
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The bootloader has been unlocked for a while now

Nook has a microscope so you can duel boot.
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Personally I would go nook tablet. I have a fire because I bought it from some kid on craigslist for 100 dollars. Actually a 50 dollar bestbuy giftcard and 50 cash

This week at Walmart B&M stores only, you can get a Fire with a $50 WM GC, so basically paying $149 for the Fire. The Nook Color is $249 (but there is also a $25 GC if you are a MasterCard holder).

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The bootloader has been unlocked for a while now
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And I still have no interest in it. My Nook Color was great to mess around with but the tablet doesn't do it for me (had one for a week, grew tired of waiting).
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If the bootloader is truly unlocked, then go with the device that has the better Dev support. Check out both forum's and make your choice.

In my opinion the only real downside of the kindle-fire is the way too little 512mb of ram. Apart from that's its a gorgeous device. Its cheap, it feels good in hands, kinda pocket, it will fit in your pocket while the nook is fairly bigger, and it has pretty much the same hw as the nook has, apart from the 500mb of ram more (which is a damn good thing) and the SD slot which is definitely good if you need to increase storage. Although that doesn't really bother me much as 8gb are more than enough for me on a tablet, especially when you can benefit of 2.5gb of drop box, 50gb of box.net along with every other Google cloud services such as picasa, docs, Gmail etc.
Also, the kindle-fire has a better dev support so far, CM7 is way too damn good, we have a pretty stable ICS rom and it's still an early alpha, while the nook only offers an early CM7 alpha (for sure the locked boot loader had significantly slowed down the development).
So my advice is to go cheaper and actually to go for at some points a better device, indeed the kindle-fire

Maybe you are interested in reading some detailed comparison of the two:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/18/kindle-fire-vs-nook-tablet-fight/
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-57330571-251/kindle-fire-vs-nook-tablet-how-to-choose/

Having a Fire myself I'm somewhat biased. The fire, quite frankly, is a bit heavy. I don't know how it compares to the Nook, but having played with an iPad2 before, the iPad _seemed_ lighter - maybe that was just my compensating for the larger form factor; the Fire feels like a brick in my hands - too heavy for its size.
But, I purchased it for a cheap tablet to play with Android, so really no major complaints.
And THANKS to all the devs that are working tirelessly to put ICS on the Fire - even as it stands now it looks/works great. Yes, yes, there are a few missing pieces, but I'm quite willing to overlook them for the moment.

gadgetman13 said:
Having a Fire myself I'm somewhat biased. The fire, quite frankly, is a bit heavy. I don't know how it compares to the Nook, but having played with an iPad2 before, the iPad _seemed_ lighter - maybe that was just my compensating for the larger form factor; the Fire feels like a brick in my hands - too heavy for its size.
But, I purchased it for a cheap tablet to play with Android, so really no major complaints.
And THANKS to all the devs that are working tirelessly to put ICS on the Fire - even as it stands now it looks/works great. Yes, yes, there are a few missing pieces, but I'm quite willing to overlook them for the moment.
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I can second that. I actually bought a Nook Tablet first, then returned it and got the Kindle Fire instead. My wife still has a Nook Tablet of her own.
Looking up the specs, the Nook Tablet is only a tiny bit lighter than the Kindle Fire (400 g vs. 413 g), but it is lighter, and larger. It feels much lighter because of the materials they use - it has a nice soft, almost padded edge around the screen, and the screen is set in from the face of the device so you won't accidentally touch it. All in all the Nook is probably a better device for reading or if you value ergonomics highly.
I ended up with the Kindle mainly because I wanted the larger developer community, the lower price, and because I don't need SD card storage. Some people need it, but I don't. I didn't notice any difference in performance so apparently the lower RAM on the Kindle doesn't actually change much.
They're both good though. I think the largest, most important distinctions are the price and the SD card slot. Take those into account before anything else.

robertesteele said:
I am looking at buying either one of these. I like the way the kindle fire looks better, but I don't like it's lack of sd card support. They both seem to have good development for rooted users and I plan on rooting. I am leaning towards the Nook, but haven't decided for sure yet. Please offer your opinions and why you would choose one over the other.
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The Kindle Fire is miles ahead in terms of the speed of homebrew development, thanks to its unlocked bootloader. You could root it and install a custom ROM today if you went and purchased it. The locked bootloader on the Nook Tablet slowed development down a lot, but I'd say the developers working on it have done amazing things so far; it shows promise.
My Nook Tablet is running the CM7 alpha that Celtic released a few days ago but the ROM was taken down because Celtic wants a more polished ROM to be available to users. Both have unlocked bootloaders but the Kindle, having been more hack-friendly, already has a full CM7 release and the Ice Cream Sandwhich/CM9 development seems to be going swimmingly as well. The previously-locked bootloader is indeed what slowed down Nook Tablet homebrew devs.
The NT dev community's catching up, but if you're a bit more impatient and want a cool 7-inch Android tablet right away, go with the Fire. If you're more patient and don't mind waiting, the Nook Tablet has better hardware all around and is well worth the $50 more that it costs. It weighs a little less, its battery lasts a little longer, it has double the RAM and expandable micro-SD storage. I'm also told that the screen resists glare better than the Fire's, but I haven't had a chance to play with the Fire much myself so I can't judge that aspect.
tl;dr: If you want a great hacked Android tablet right now, go with the Fire. If you can stand the wait a little longer, go with the Nook Tablet. The Nook Tab devs have been making amazing progress so a release of CM7 is probably not far off (maybe this month!) but like I said, you could have CM7 on a Kindle Fire today.

I looked at both devices before I made my purchase, and price was not a considering factor cause when I went shopping the NT was on sale for the same price as the KF, I just like the look of the KF better, plus I like Kindle as a name, my name being kinda close to it too. That and some of my friends have the KF and they love it, and they told me the Dev section on XDA was ahead of the NT. Support is a major factor for me when I get a device.
My dad has a 200 dollar 'tablet' with a bigger screen and all that, but the support for it is awful. He plays order and chaos online like I do and he can't get it to run on his device, or other gameloft games, where as I have the game on mine.
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Sorry, I meant micro sd. My kindle Auto corrected.
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why get a nook? "a nook can't read so a nook can't cook. so what good to a nook is a hook cook book?" -Dr Seuss

I actually traded my Dell Streak 7 for the Fire and like it, but if I was buying it, I would go with the Nook Tablet. I just got a coupon good till the end of the month for $50 off either a Nook Color OR Nook Tablet (so $149 and $199). Dang tempting, but I gotta quit buying tablets until one comes out that fits all my needs...and honestly, as fun as the Fire is and the Nook probably is...without a front camera for Skype and stylus support, neither will cut my mustard. Also, I've had a Nook Color and I really like the feel of the Fire better. I'm pretty sure the Nook Tablet feels the same as the Color...for what that's worth.

I got the Fire because:
- neither it or the nook is a full featured tablet and the fire is cheaper (nook is too "middle ground" price/features)
- it doesn't weigh more than my hardcover copy of Harry potter 7, and is thinner and much smaller besides
- amazon sold a ton of them and isn't going anywhere, meaning lots of aftermarket support
- my phone and camera make up for the features it lacks; mainly I just wanted browsing, email, and IM without being stuck at my desk or at a wall (with my short-battery-life laptop)
I never do any videoconferencing.
A bluetooth keyboard would've been nice, but for the price I can do without.

Amazon Kindle Fire VS Ainovo Novo 7

Hi all. I wanna buy new tablet and I stucked here for two is Kindle Fire and Novo 7. And I wanna ask which is better, if Kindle Fire, why ? if Novo 7, why ?

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Hi all. I wanna buy new tablet and I stucked here for two is Kindle Fire and Novo 7. And I wanna ask which is better, if Kindle Fire, why ? if Novo 7, why ?
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It depends how comfortable you are with flashing and modding. You'll have to do this on the Kindle Fire to get the Android Market/Google Play on it as you won't be able to use the Amazon Appstore at all being outside the US.
The Ainovo comes with ICS where as the Kindle Fire ICS has a few bugs such as hardware video acceleration. I do like the Kindle Fire Stock ROM and have flashed Paul Obrien's ROM. I use the Android market for any of my app needs, to hell with Amazon and their walled garden.
I'm a fan of the Kindle Fire tbh. It's a solid tablet with easy to find accessories. I just don't think it's for "Joe consumer" that lives outside of the US if they don't want to mod their tablet.
Hope that helps.

On the one hand yes I want to change android, develop it. You know installing custom roms ant etc. But on the other hand Novo 7 reads SD cards have HDMI connection but big minus is that you cant change anything and therebis no Google Play. But it is cheaper than Kindle. So I am really mest uo but I think I will buy Kindle from Ebay.co.uk couse just from there they are sending to Lithuania
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I personally think the Fire is better...unless you just have to have the camera. The 800x480 resolution of the Novo would drive me bonkers.
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Kindle Fire all the way! Dual core, Amazon services, Gorilla glass, its all good. Plus, tons of mods!

Which Novo 7? There are several.... Build quality and support are always going to be an issue with Ainol....might get lucky and the unit is fine...or have dead pixels and screen seperation like folks are getting with the Novo 7 Aurora...

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Kindle Fire all the way! Dual core, Amazon services, Gorilla glass, its all good. Plus, tons of mods!
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^What they said. Also, what was mentioned above... unless you absolutely want a camera that you'll use sporadically, then sure go for the other. The Kindle's a nice little toy.

I chosed Ainol Novo 7 Aurora, which have 1 gb processor, micro sd slot, hdmi out, IPS screen (same as iPad 2) and 1080p HD quality. and I think it is better than Kindle also you get 1 year warranty and it cost less and it have orginal ICS with Google Play.

Kindle Fire
You will have much more ROMs to choose from for the Kindle Fire. It is supposed to be the second most popular tablet at this point. And if you need HWA you can always use CM7 until ICS is a little more stable. It might be a little more money, but you get a device that you will be able to find accessories for as well as a plethora of ROMs

Additional Storage
Kindle Fire does NOT allow you to add any storage. At 8GB you may very well find yourself extremely limited when attempting to add media.
Ainovo Novo 7 on the other hand has up to 32GB expandable storage, which means you can have unlimited storage because you can also switch out differnt cards. Say you want 32GB of music on one MicroSD card, then you can put other things on another card. Even one 32GB MicroSD is probably fine, but 8 or 16GB is certainly not sufficient.
p.s. ICS is perfectly stable.

[Q] Best hackable sub-$300 Android tablet?

I'm looking to get my first Android tablet. I've always rooted and run custom firmware on my Android phones, so I need a "cheap" Android tablet with a healthy developer community and a lot of support.
My first thought was to go for the $250 Nook Tablet, spec for spec it's better than the Kindle Fire; but didn't an update come out for it recently that made rooting it near impossible or so highly difficult that it hasn't been done yet?
Then the $200 Kindle Fire came to mind, very popular tablet must mean a very healthy/active hacking/dev community right? But isn't it also locked down in such a way it can't be rooted or modified anymore? I need a working Android Market (Oh I'm sorry, I mean <sarcasm>Play Store</sarcasm>) and good custom ROM's including ICS.
Then I see a $189 Lenovo A1 Tablet at Best Buy with decent specs. It's running Android 2.3 which I'd normally prefer over Android 3.0/Honeycomb but now that ICS/Android 4.0 is out, I'd definately want to run that on my tablet.
So is ICS running very good/stable on any sub $300 Android tablet? I wonder when the $250 Tegra3 based tablet from Asus (or is it Acer...) comes out. Suggestions on which route to go?

I'm interested in this too. Are you not interested in going the used route though?
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I'm interested in this too. Are you not interested in going the used route though?
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I have no issues with going used, in fact it could even be preferred. I can get a used Kindle Fire from the local Craigslist for $140-$160.
I can get a $250 Nook Tablet (not the new cheaper one) for about $195 on Craigslist.
I wonder what the status is of Android on the HP TouchPad's are, did they get Android 4.0/ICS running on it? The HW specs are quite good.

I am very happy with CM9 on my HP Touch pad..
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I am very happy with CM9 on my HP Touch pad..
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Not to hijack this thread, I know I'm in a Kindle Fire forum, but what are the known issues with CM9 on the HP Touchpad? The HP Touchpads specs are superior to the Kindle Fire's (naturally considering the Touchpad is originally a $500 tablet), but CM9 on the Kindle Fire only has 3 known issues (HW Acceleration, 720p video and Bluetooth); Doesn't CM9 on the HP Touchpad have a lot more known issues "HD Video/codecs not working, Speaker farting noise when screen is off, Wifi hit or miss, Sound still has some major issues to be worked on, Camera doesn't work yet (therefore no skype and what not), Reboot to recovery hit or miss, No Mic"?

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Suggestions on which route to go?
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You are in KF forum, so probably most common answer will be Kindle Fire
Anyway, IMHO
KF pros
Very good build quality
Powerful proc
Gorilla glass & good screen
Price
Existence of excellent CM7 ROM (see my sig)
ICS on the way
KF contra
No SD card slot
No bluetooth and never will be
No USB support (as far as I know there are theoretical possibilities to hack this).
Personaly I am very pleased with KF for $200

I thing you would get a better Tablet for 350 $. Maybe the huwei Mediapad wich is pretty awsome.
But the Kindle had a very good dev community.
I dont like the Lenovo A1, of course the community is ok, but hardware is not so good as the fire one is. Take a look at the Display its awfull and the CPU is a single core.
I buy a used Fire in germany for about 190$ and they sell a new A1 for about 180$ here.
Look at the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1545172 Hashcode is in development for a 3.0 kernel, dont know if somwone does for Lenevo.
no matter ICS is tunning very well with the 2.6 kernel

My only con with kf is connecting to wifi. I heard it was a kernel thing and it may also be my router. Hopefully it gets fixed with the new 3.0 kernel, if not I'm thinking of selling my kf. It's a good device, but it gets really annoying when I can't connect, makes it pointless
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It is actually super easy to root the kindle fire

paranoid android85 said:
My only con with kf is connecting to wifi. I heard it was a kernel thing and it may also be my router. Hopefully it gets fixed with the new 3.0 kernel, if not I'm thinking of selling my kf. It's a good device, but it gets really annoying when I can't connect, makes it pointless
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I never had a problem to connect to any wifi. Explain your issue.

paranoid android85 said:
My only con with kf is connecting to wifi. I heard it was a kernel thing and it may also be my router. Hopefully it gets fixed with the new 3.0 kernel, if not I'm thinking of selling my kf. It's a good device, but it gets really annoying when I can't connect, makes it pointless
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i used to have the same problem i started using raven's kernal now no problems it actually will now connect to my home and work and switch between the 2 without doing anything. this may or maynot help but worth a try

I wouldn't recommend the fire unless you plan on using it as Amazon intended with prime. Most apps do not behave right on CM7 and the lack of volume controls make it even worse.
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I'd hold out for the "Nexus Tablet" that is supposedly launching very soon. It's rumored to be like the Kindle Fire size-wise, run Tegra 3, and be $150!

I'm on cm9 from bl1nk thread and if one of my rooms in my house has a weak wifi signal I'll lose connection. I noticed in a few days of flashing a rom it gets worse and worse. I'm going to try another kernel like someone suggested, see if that helps
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schleppy said:
I'd hold out for the "Nexus Tablet" that is supposedly launching very soon. It's rumored to be like the Kindle Fire size-wise, run Tegra 3, and be $150!
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That will be pretty sweet if it's true
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Kindle can be rooted easily
glitchsys said:
Then the $200 Kindle Fire came to mind, very popular tablet must mean a very healthy/active hacking/dev community right? But isn't it also locked down in such a way it can't be rooted or modified anymore? I need a working Android Market (Oh I'm sorry, I mean <sarcasm>Play Store</sarcasm>) and good custom ROM's including ICS.
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I actually rooted my Kindle fire on the newest 6.2.2 update (it did take me a little while cause it's the first time ive used a computer to root) and I even got ICS to work on it swimmingly... but i took it off because it's still in beta. As for the market every single app ive downloaded from there works too.

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I wouldn't recommend the fire unless you plan on using it as Amazon intended with prime. Most apps do not behave right on CM7 and the lack of volume controls make it even worse.
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Disagree completely. I have had CM7 on two Kindles for months now with absolutely zero problems. If you experienced problems with "most apps" then I am guessing you had serious user errors, not CM or KF errors. Plus, having an onscreen volume slider with the Volume Control app works beautifully.

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Not to hijack this thread, I know I'm in a Kindle Fire forum, but what are the known issues with CM9 on the HP Touchpad? The HP Touchpads specs are superior to the Kindle Fire's (naturally considering the Touchpad is originally a $500 tablet), but CM9 on the Kindle Fire only has 3 known issues (HW Acceleration, 720p video and Bluetooth); Doesn't CM9 on the HP Touchpad have a lot more known issues "HD Video/codecs not working, Speaker farting noise when screen is off, Wifi hit or miss, Sound still has some major issues to be worked on, Camera doesn't work yet (therefore no skype and what not), Reboot to recovery hit or miss, No Mic"?
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The TouchPad's version of CM9 took a few revisions for hardware acceleration for HD video content, but alpha 2 fixed that. I've been using the TouchPad's since alpha 0.5 as a daily driver. In all those revisions and ROMs I have never had the speaker issue you mention in android. Before CM9 I would get that occasionally in webOS. I have only had wifi issues with CM7, CM9 and webOS have had solid stable wifi. From what I understand its more about the router channel than anything else. Overlapping SSIDs on the same channel causes the issue, and changing the channel on the router usually fixes it. My sound is great. Now that HW accel works HD YouTube looks and sounds great. Hulu+ and Netflix look great and sound perfect. There is no camera support, and I think that's very low on the priority list. You can always switch to webOS for video chat. Note that you cannot remove webOS, you dual boot. That's part of the issue with reboot to recovery. You cannot boot directly into recovery. When you power up you get a boot menu, after 5 seconds android boots. But, from that menu you can select recovery or webOS. I use a delay of 1 second because its very rare for me to need to boot to recovery or webOS. I have never checked the mic, so I can't comment on that, again though, it will work in webOS. With the TP don't discount webOS. Its stable, snappy, elegant, and intuitive. I thought it was better than CM7. The only thing it lacks is apps. The browser is great, and supports flash.
On Black Friday I had a Kindle Fire in my cart on Amazon, hoping for a black Friday deal. I saw an ad for the TouchPad for $99, and after 30 seconds of research I knew I wanted that instead. I ended up getting one for $195 NIB. To me a tablet is mainly an internet device, and a web browsing device. The 10" vs 7" screen makes a world of difference. Its still just as portable, but that extra screen makes web browsing basically desktop class. The TouchPad also has the TouchStone, the inductive charger. I never have to mess with cables, and never see battery below 75% because after a few hours of use I put it on the charger. Those sold for $90 new, but you can get then $40 easy. Plus the HP case is really nice for $15 usually. To me is was a no brainer. But I'm someone that has been on xda for years, flashing a ROM every week. When my family ask what to get I always recommend the Kindle Fire over the nook, and over the TP. The Amazon app store alone tips the scales over any nook advantage. But, those are users that need the device to work out of box, and consistently, without any hacking. I would still bet on the Kindle Fire getting more support here.
Sorry to derail the thread ...
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ive got a Kindle Fire and for 200 bucks, you cant beat it. i rooted mine before the update, so i dont know how difficult it is to root on 6.2.2 (which i believe is the newest firmware), but i believe someone has gotten it done
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btonetbone said:
Disagree completely. I have had CM7 on two Kindles for months now with absolutely zero problems. If you experienced problems with "most apps" then I am guessing you had serious user errors, not CM or KF errors. Plus, having an onscreen volume slider with the Volume Control app works beautifully.
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Right lol...If your intention is rooting and using cm, buying a first gen android tablet for about the same price makes much more sense. It is something with the aspect ratio, I had numerous apps not behave correctly when going from landscape to portrait, and the software volume control options on cm7 were hideous. The tablet is great if you intend on using it in conjunction with prime as amazon intended though.
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[Q] Thinking of buying Nexus7 to replace Kindle Fire HD - worth it?

I got a Kindle Fire HD the other day - at first I loved it but the mods amazon have done to android are starting to annoy me now. I've rooted it and installed another home screen (go launcher HD) but getting simple things done involves messing about and hacking that I would rather not have to do. I'm considering buying a Nexus7 now - not sure if i'll be able to take the kindle back for a refund or just have to take a financial hit there. My question is, is it worth doing? Is the Nexus a lot better?
Cheers
Dean

I went from the regular Kindle Fire to the Nexus 7 [gave the Fire to my mom...]. I was torn between the Fire HD and the Nexus, but decided on the Nexus to give me a full Android experience. I can still use the Kindle app to read books and Amazon's MP3 app to give me access to my music which is all stored on Amazon's cloud. For me, this was the right choice.

PromaneX said:
I got a Kindle Fire HD the other day - at first I loved it but the mods amazon have done to android are starting to annoy me now. I've rooted it and installed another home screen (go launcher HD) but getting simple things done involves messing about and hacking that I would rather not have to do. I'm considering buying a Nexus7 now - not sure if i'll be able to take the kindle back for a refund or just have to take a financial hit there. My question is, is it worth doing? Is the Nexus a lot better?
Cheers
Dean
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The Nexus 7 will give you all the pure Android experience, and all the freedom that goes with it, but you may find the screen on the Kindle Fire HD to be better:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33755719&postcount=68

I have a Nexus 7 and it was a no-brainer for me. The kindle HD is nice, but I like the full Google experience. Plus you're more likely to see updates because you won't have to go through proprietary companies before Google pushes an update. I got my wife the HD and she loves it. But she reads mostly and she likes Amazon Prime's free book per month thing. We compared video playback using Netflix. The HD was just a tad brighter, but the colors and resolution looked better in the Nexus. The HD is a nice tablet...but if you like customization and care about updates - the Nexus is the way to go.
There may be someone like you that had a Nexus and wants the HD...try CL to see if someone will trade. Otherwise, sell the HD (you should still be able to get a good price) and if you have some Xbox out PlayStation games you don't want, trade them in at GameStop and use the credit towards a Nexus. Yes, they sell the Nexus there. That's where I got mine and used the game credit to get the 16GB version.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks everyone - I think I'll go for the Nexus and either sell the kindle or give it to a family member - Guess you'll be seeing a lot more of me around this section once I get it

Been comparing these two for ages.
Differences are:
1. Build quality. Kindle appears to be a better build (I've used both).
2. Screen. Kindle is better, especially for reading and at different angles
3. WiFi. Kindle is dual band and is faster
4. Sound. Kindle is dolby stereo and better
5. Innards / CPU. Nexus has a faster CPU and GPU, with some games specifically optimised for it. Kindle I used appeared to have significant lag at times.
6. OS. Kindle uses a skinned version of an earlier version of Android. It cannot do everything the Nexus can and is not as compatible with things the Nexus is. The Nexus is likely to get the latest android updates, the kindle may never get them.
7. Play Store: The Kindle uses its own store and has less apps in it. Many apps will not work with the Kindle.
8. Google Play Music: This is not supported currently on the Kindle
9. Camera. The camera on the Kindle cannot be used as a camera as no app currently exists for it. This is not the case with the Nexus
10. GPS. The Kindle does not have a GPS in it (Kindle Fire HD does, but has no apps to use it as yet)
11. HDMI Out: The Kindle has this. The Nexus does not.
12. Charger. The Nexus comes with a charger. The kindle you have to buy one seperatley or use a slower USB to microusb charger.
13. Size. The Kindle is a little larger. This makes it harder to hold in one hand or pocket easily. However, it gives a nice bezel to hold while reading
14. Battery. Kindle battery life is on paper slightly better than the Nexus. (11.5 vs 9.5 hrs)
15. NFC. Nexus has it. Kindle does not.
16. Magnetometer. Nexus has it. Kindle does not
17. Bluetooth. Nexus has it. Kindle does not - bit odd leaving that out.
So... the Nexus is better, but possibly not as well built and does not have as good sound or screen. Its also possibly going to be stuck on its current OS level and not get all the new and nice upgrades. Your favourite apps may not work on it.

If it annoys you, then you will be happy with the N7!!!!
I was in the exact same shoes and I'm extremely happy I made the switch. No matter how you say it, the KFHD is nothing but a gimped android device with the amazon system running, including using custom launcher.
Dev's are working on a boot strap for the KFHD but it's still in early development and not to mention waiting for (stable) rom.
You'll be happy with the N7 out of the box.
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Went out and got the 32gb n7 today and gave the kidnle to the gf. I LOVE the nexus! Really happy that I got it! Thanks to everyone who helped me make the choice