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JI6 - No LagFix, etc.

So, OCLF breaks the vibration on JI6 and while Ryan figures out the problem (I already gave him a logcat) I decided to remove it.
My verdict so far without running any lagfix whatsoever, stock JI6 and the stock kernel is that the phone is tons smoother than what it has ever been. If I didn't know better I could swear that a lagfix was installed solely based on my prior experiences before and after installing one.
Whatever Samsung did in JI6 really helped out. Now, if you run a quadrant you will still get scores within the 900s but that doesn't seem to have any bearing on how fast the phone runs.
I remember when running stock JFD that my phone would constantly freeze while even trying to wake it. Really embarrassing when trying to show off to your friends
Anyhow, so far I'm really satisfied with just the stock rom, although I do have root. My only problem so far is the battery. I believe there is something wrong with the modem that it drains the battery way too fast. As a test, I have been streaming Pandora via Wi-Fi for 2 hours. The battery has only gone down 10%. While using 3G, that battery would have been decimated.
So, does anyone want to take a wild guess at what Samsung did to make JI6 faster? The UI doesn't seem to have been changed and it is still RFS.

kangxi said:
As a test, I have been streaming Pandora via Wi-Fi for 2 hours. The battery has only gone down 10%. While using 3G, that battery would have been decimated.
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Uh....decimated? As in reduced by 10%?
Sorry couldn't resist. No idea what's different.

I was saying, that if I were using 3G the battery would have dropped well below 10%. The other day I was using 3G just to browse the web and the battery literally dropped to about 74% in 30 mins. That was when I was using Bionx 1.5 or 1.6.

Stay far away from KA5 Modem!

Word Of Warning this Modem is crap! Went from JL5 Modem getting 5.2mg download speed to 1.2mg download speed when using this KA5 Modem. And GPS took like 5mins to lock on.was only taking like 10 secs on the JL5 modem. Was also Timing out all the time! so I switched Back!!! Stay Far away!!! Using Voodoo Axura 2.2.6 (Beast) Rom Also other people seem to be having issues too!
http://devsforandroid.com/ip.board/index.php?/topic/23-modemt959ka51132011/page__st__20

Yea I also went back. My web would keep timing out.
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My speed actually increased!

My speed and gps are improved so how about folks just try it out for themselves.
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I wish I knew the reason behind it (other than possibly placebo effect), but I've seen this same type of reporting for basically all the leaked modems. Some say it's crap, others say it's the best yet. Just try out the newest release and make your own decission. ALso, my advice is to REALLY try it out for awhile, not run one speedtest where you're sitting then flash back because it's 5% slower.
F.Y.I. I'm not taking a shot at the OP, I realize his/her claims of speed differences are significant and KA5 may very well be a terrible modem for him/her.

Yes dis made everything on da vibrant faster so it ur own option....or ur phone is not stable for this rom.....
Sent from my vibrant, nero 5,kA5

for some its good for some is bad, their point of view comes from their previous rom and how they set it up.
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Individual results may vary...
/lawyer voice

Im starting think it may depend on your geographic location also. JL5 worked great for me, and i flashed KA5 today, and it seems to be great also. i've noticed my battery might be falling a little faster with KA, but its a little less buggy when switching networks and what not. Progress in one way or another.

Ill prolly try it again with Nero 5.
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Not scientific but:
JL5 downloads speeds:
5505
5033
5215
5536
4450
JL5 average: 5147.8
KA5 download speeds:
5526
5309
5132
5309
5653
KA5 average: 5385.8
I just flashed it so Im not sure an batt life. Reconditioning now.

I also had a big drop with KA5.
KA5 speetest = 1.3mbs
JL5 speetest = 3.5mbs
I also noticed the random signal drops with the KA5 modem. Back to JL5 for me. It is just not a stable modem.

Jl5 gave me 2 bars and I live like 8 blocks away from a t mobile tower, now with ka5 always full bar!

I flashed nero 5, which includes KA5 and its literally doubles my speeds, download from 1 to 2 to 2 to 4. If its good enough for team whiskey its plenty good for me

Maybe this is one of the reasons we don't have official 2.2. The lack of constant results
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I don't know.. but ka5 is working fine for me.. i installed the stock one with no root or cwm... just stock.. it's working fine so far. The GPS took a while to get a lock then after installing the gpsrestore, now it gets a lock fast.. my settings from j16 was all intact, even the apps that normally won't show up in the market with the leaked froyo rom are there, swiftkey, amtalee, etc. I didn't do a factory reset, just flashed through odin without a pit file...
loving it..

Or maybe the reason why the apps are in the market because this is the newest leak and the apps are available..?? the best part is, the marketplace hasn't been updated yet to the latest version, i hate the new market.. lol..oh and i can use swiftkey, the android keyboard is still not available though..
edit.. amtalee is not available in market.. ughh but still in my phone from not doing a factory reset

Bigby2727 said:
Yes dis made everything on da vibrant faster so it ur own option....or ur phone is not stable for this rom.....
Sent from my vibrant, nero 5,kA5
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what? .....?

getting the same speeds i've always gotten.

I'm not having issues. On my way to work I noticed a drop in signal and it took awhile to get back to having one but the towers here suck big ones for some reason. I'll test again on my way home. At work and everywhere else since I have installed it I have noticed good results. Actually best yet *Knocks on wood*

So, is 2.2 on the Fascinate better than 2.1?

I haven't read too much praise about the 2.2 update. My impression right now is it's just nice to have the latest and greatest even though nothing really stands out.
So what do you like about 2.2 vs 2.1? Give me a reason to go through the process of flashing 2.2

My opinion so far: Not ready for prime time.
The recent drops of EA28 (Eclair DL09 Dailer Fix) and EB01 (FroYo update of unknown content) tell me that DL30 will not be the final release. My personal usage backs that up.
My main problem with stock DL30 is the battery life. It's quite frankly horrible for me. Even using tasker to adjust some things that should help save battery life, I can't get through the day without hitting the charger. I could go all day and end up plugging in for the night with anywhere from 35-60% left on my battery depending on what time I went to bed and how much I messed with my phone during the day.
I'm currently restoring my DL09 nandroid backup so I can wait it out.

If you need a reason, then dont flash 2.2?
With kernels and roms that support them yet to come, I dont find that much difference between 2.2 and 2.1.
Some people experience horrible battery life, others better or same (my battery is better with 2.2). Some experience a lot of different problems once they changed to 2.2 while others people experienced 0 problems.

I don't think anyone here should really be saying too much about how 2.2 works on the Fascinate (sans the people with EB01- possibly). The DL30 version is, quite apparently, a very rough version with lots of problems, so not an accurate portrayal of Froyo (and Kaosinate, I believe, is still running an older kernel with v4... and no JIT).
Just find stuff comparing Android 2.1 with Android 2.2, that isn't phone specific, to see why 2.2 will be better once our roms & kernels have a chance to mature. Anything Fascinate specific, at this point in time, will be highly implementation-specific, and not a good representation of 2.2.

DL09 - Stocke 2.2 leak - Superdark Rom
Exchange feature - company requires Android 2.2 Roms to use company email (+1)
GPS - Does not lock as fast with 2.2 (-1)
Flash (+1)
getting ready to test app2sd on 2.2 - should work (+1)
if you have to ask - do not flash

AlexDeGruven said:
My opinion so far: Not ready for prime time.
The recent drops of EA28 (Eclair DL09 Dailer Fix) and EB01 (FroYo update of unknown content) tell me that DL30 will not be the final release. My personal usage backs that up.
My main problem with stock DL30 is the battery life. It's quite frankly horrible for me. Even using tasker to adjust some things that should help save battery life, I can't get through the day without hitting the charger. I could go all day and end up plugging in for the night with anywhere from 35-60% left on my battery depending on what time I went to bed and how much I messed with my phone during the day.
I'm currently restoring my DL09 nandroid backup so I can wait it out.
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I've been doing a lot of my own investigations on EB01, and found something interesting about WIFI battery usage. First, there are lots of posts that tell you to change the WIFI sleep policy to "When screen turns off" or "Never when plugged in" in order to get back to DL09 type WIFI battery performance. However, even when I did this, I still lost lots of battery with WIFI enabled and phone inactive (screen off). I found that going into Location & security and disabling "Google location services" makes a big difference. With this disabled, I now get the extremely slow battery loss (< 1% / hr) when phone is inactive and WIFI enabled. Of course, if WIFI sleep policy is set to "Never", the power consumption goes way up. Note, in all cases, I'm leaving "Mobile data" enabled. Now then, GPS is another issue. Whenever I enable that, even though I have no background apps or active apps using GPS, it still drains the battery in a way DL09 never did. That I don't know how to solve.

Its awesome
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onemotodroid said:
DL09 - Stocke 2.2 leak - Superdark Rom
Exchange feature - company requires Android 2.2 Roms to use company email (+1)
GPS - Does not lock as fast with 2.2 (-1)
Flash (+1)
getting ready to test app2sd on 2.2 - should work (+1)
if you have to ask - do not flash
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My GPS is fine. The phone isn't as snappy as it was with the custom kernels on 2.1 though, and 2.2 is still buggy. Both issues are Samsung's fault, not our devs, though.
What it boils down to is that if you want flash, you have to upgrade. If you want your phone to run super fast and stable then stay on DL09 with custom kernels until FroYo matures.

Hyatt updated this morning. Everything seems better so far. Battery seems at least a little better. Gps locks just as fast if not a little faster. Overall everything seems to be far more fluid and faster.
Came from blackhole latest dl09 to superclean 2.3 eb01.
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It's nice having Flash again. And I see apps in the Market that I couldn't on 2.1. And it's noticeably faster in day to day use. At the same time, it can also be "choppy". I can't wait for custom kernels to fix this.

2.2 is great... especially when combined with a Voodoo kernel. The only thing that I miss about 2.1 is Voodoo sound and maybe slightly better battery life.
Also having access to Flash and Adobe Air apps is great.

Just put EBO1 on my phone yesterday. For me the changes to the stock theme are almost reason enough. Just a lot of small ways they have toned it down a little bit. Plus lots of little ways it works better or you get more options.
I installed it to get better at flashing, and wanted more experience with different ROMS before OTA is released. I'm glad I did EBO1.
Today I'm going to start playing with it, loading accurate battery stuff like that and will most likely try super clean in the next day or so.
But if you are happy with your phone and there is no Froyo feature you want, then no there is no strong reason not to wait for OTA.
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shorto85 said:
2.2 is great... especially when combined with a Voodoo kernel. The only thing that I miss about 2.1 is Voodoo sound and maybe slightly better battery life.
Also having access to Flash and Adobe Air apps is great.
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Ditto on all that. Coming from DL09 Super Clean with Voodoo, EB01 Super Clean without Voodoo was horribly laggy. After reinstalling Voodoo though, EB01 SC is flying! The few remaining lag points I used to have are now gone, such as the entering the helicopter view in LauncherPro, waking the phone up (pretty much instant on now, used to be a few second lag), etc. Also, the theme I installed added a ton of fancy animations, and I haven't noticed any lag on any of them. Whatever CPU enhancements Froyo brings are definitely an improvement.
The only real problem I have is noticeably reduced battery life (can still make it through a day at least, most of the time anyway). Oh, and I'm definitely missing the Voodoo sound driver. I had to crank the EQ in PowerAmp way up to compensate, and it's just not the same, since that increases audio distortion to audible levels.

Battery Life and Modem - My Observations

What I've figured so far. If I prevent the modem from being used while the screen is turned off then I get good battery life. (I use a profile on Tasker to turn off the 2g/3g modem, when the screen is off) If I don't then it dies in 4hours regardless of what I do. I'm on srf1.2 with ec05 modem.
The modems leaked with the gb roms always crashed my phone once during the day. Roms where fast but bad battery life.
So I'm thinking that the modem kills the battery as it's being used and it seems to use more battery as the signal gets weaker. I have no data to support this, just my personal conclusions. (actually I don't know how I would prove this as I don't know which program would allow me to collect the proper data)
One final thing, I noticed that after I flashed the gb builds my voice calls have started to fail after a few seconds in the call because I lost signal. This has progressively gotten worse as time has gone by. I thought flashing the ec05 modem with srf 1.2 might help fix things but it's still happening.

I get awful battery life with any ec05 rom, and amazing on ef02 (aai3 is all I used). Others have reported the opposite. The modem reboots are worth the amazing battery life to me, the broken gps isn't
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Roll call of those who are successfully running Stock Gingerbread without Reboots

If you are running a version of Stock Gingerbread and it's worked for you for at least 4 days without a reboot, please check in here and answer the following questions:
What version ROM, what version modem?
Are percent of the time do you typically spend in a low signal strength area?
What options did you have selected in ODIN when you flashed it?
What launcher do you use?
Is your phone rooted?
How many apps do you have installed, and are not from an "official" market?
How long between charges?
Anything else you may thing contributes to your success with Gingerbread?
You can see where I'm going here. Some people seem to have great luck with gingerbread, others (like me) keep having reboots. Perhaps there is something common between all the lucky users that we can figure out.

1. EH17 on both
2. If I'm at work, I have hardly any phone signal, but usually a bar of 4G. Outside of my office, I get a few bars of 3G.
3. Used Heimdall 1.3 over EH06 which was over EG22. Flashed everything but data, cache, and recovery.
4. Zeam Launcher
5. Yes, rooted.
6. Dozens of apps installed. From official and Amazon market. One app not from any market.
7. Charge daily. Leave on charger at work.
8. Luck of the draw on my phone?

Eg22 rom and modem. Maddoggins lock. Never a reboot. Working nicely. Seems after freezinga few thing the battery is gettting under control. Not even concerned w another flash til an official is released.

1. EG22, ROM and modem
2. Inside my house, there are some dead spots but outside its usually alright
3. Umm i think i put the tar or whatever in phone not PDA and no reset time(obviously)
4. GO Launcher EX
5. Of course
6. Um i think all are from official market that i can think of...?
7. I usually charge every night or just put in a spare battery
8. Well i use Eg22Plus Kernel and qbkings overscroll and battery percent mod. Also use necrosans Eg22 hotspot hack. Ive had one reboot EVER on gingerbread about 2 or 3 days after flashing EG22 but it was after tethering for 3 hours straight haha and i think the phone was just overloaded.

1. EH17 w/ ee03 modem
2. I usually have 5 bars with 3G when I'm using data, and on 4G I'll have two bars most of time. I guess every where I go in Nj have great signal.
3. I don't flash Roms with ODIN.
4. I used Tw4.5 by fr4ggor mostly, now I'm using spb 3d launcher.
5. Yes, I'm rooted
6. I have 28 apps installed from the official market.
7. I use my phone till it dies then charge it once it's dead, until its at a reasonable percentage, maybe like 60% - 70%.
* Idk why gb is successful for me I've been running the supercharger script and selecting option 12 & 9 with the last 3 GB builds*
*I usually delete the five terminal emu. that's installed with gb.*

I too had no reboots on EG22 rooted Bonsai B14. Will probably go back to that until then next leak and install the EH17 Browser with it. My reboots on everything else came with Wifi and also an Airave. So it is not signa related for me.
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Never had reboots with any of the leaks unless I screwed around (prematurely hit disable or enable when it was already enabling/disabling) with wifi tether but that happens on ec05 as well.
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I was on Stock EH06 across the board for a week or 2 and had no random reboots

I'm running eh17 v1.3 or hurricane rom and no reboots whatsoever
I'm running it with eh17plus kernel, and aio mod.
Oh and using the v6 script too
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Stock EH06 with EH06+Kernel, EH06 Modem, and Honeycomb Theme 2.1
I also use AMM with my own custom values, but no other mods or modifiers
Haven't had a reboot for awhile, pretty much not since flashing the theme
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There is now way possible that anyone of us can be 100% sure that we haven't got a random reboot unless we stare at the phone 24/7. The reboots can happen even when we are not attending to the phone or over night in our sleep.
I've had my phone work fine all day and when I get up at 0400h in the morning find my phone just finishing an SD CARD Scan because it rebooted.
IMBO, I believe that this affects all GB roms from the 1st leak to this last one, its an ongoing situation with Sammy / Sprint, possibly thats one of the reasons why we see an increment in the RDF pages...

megabiteg said:
There is now way possible that anyone of us can be 100% sure that we haven't got a random reboot unless we stare at the phone 24/7. The reboots can happen even when we are not attending to the phone or over night in our sleep.
I've had my phone work fine all day and when I get up at 0400h in the morning find my phone just finishing an SD CARD Scan because it rebooted.
IMBO, I believe that this affects all GB roms from the 1st leak to this last one, its an ongoing situation with Sammy / Sprint, possibly thats one of the reasons why we see an increment in the RDF pages...
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Actually it's pretty easy to tell. Look at the uptime under Settings>Status>Up time. The number resets with every reboot. If you've never had a reboot it should correspond to the number of hours since you turned on the phone.

poit said:
Actually it's pretty easy to tell. Look at the uptime under Settings>Status>Up time. The number resets with every reboot. If you've never had a reboot it should correspond to the number of hours since you turned on the phone.
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I was over 2 days, but I had one today. Crawrj's deodexed odin w/ eh17 modem.
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masaidjet said:
* Idk why gb is successful for me I've been running the supercharger script and selecting option 12 & 9 with the last 3 GB builds*
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V6 Supercharger - Option 9 worked for me. Until then I was rebooting several times a day.
EG22 RandomRom "HAWK"
EH06 modem
EH06 Gingerbread theme
Rooted
Tons of apps
ext4 w/journaling

poit said:
Actually it's pretty easy to tell. Look at the uptime under Settings>Status>Up time. The number resets with every reboot. If you've never had a reboot it should correspond to the number of hours since you turned on the phone.
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Yup I was just going to say this. And I always check it.
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Trust me I've checked my boot times and I pretty much do look at my phone non-stop lol
But yea still no reboots
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What version ROM, what version modem? EG22, Using EH06 modem.
Are percent of the time do you typically spend in a low signal strength area? A good amount here in NH.
What options did you have selected in ODIN when you flashed it?Just the middle option checked, modem in phone slot.
What launcher do you use? Varies. LP, GO, trying out Zeam
Is your phone rooted? Yes
How many apps do you have installed, and are not from an "official" market?Probably a couple
How long between charges?6-12 hours depending
Anything else you may thing contributes to your success with Gingerbread? Had a lot of bad luck with different combos of roms, kernels, and themes, I am staying pretty stock until official comes out. My gps works on EG22, and I get the upgrades of GB in general so I'm happy.

What version ROM, what version modem? V1.3 Hurricane[ERA]
Are percent of the time do you typically spend in a low signal strength area? Med-High signal strength
What options did you have selected in ODIN when you flashed it? Used the ".pit" fle nd "repartion" and "auto reboot" selected.
What launcher do you use? I use Go launcher EX.
Is your phone rooted? Yes
How many apps do you have installed, and are not from an "official" market? I have about 25 apps installed 3 aren't from market.
How long between charges? Usually 8-10 hours because of school.
Anything else you may thing contributes to your success with Gingerbread? Hm I feel the repartioningwith the stock deodexed rom helped and the hurricane rom is problem free, and using the EH17plus kernel seperate flash. Oh and the V8 Supercharger update-9 beta-ish script using the multitasing settings.
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poit said:
Actually it's pretty easy to tell. Look at the uptime under Settings>Status>Up time. The number resets with every reboot. If you've never had a reboot it should correspond to the number of hours since you turned on the phone.
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Oympus ROM, messing w v6... anyways, just wanted to point out, I get the reboots, sometimes with a lockup, that do NOT show up in uptime or the battery stats (stock). had one 12 hrs ago and both didnt catch it. Mine does the soft reboot, just blacks out then comes back a second later, starting into the SD scan. About every 3rd time, it locks up first, I cant get any response from onscreen or cap. buttons, then it vibes one quick burst then reboots. RAM crash? My ram is still high, any tips on a V6 setup would be appreciated, tried suggested ones around...

ungovernable1977 said:
Oympus ROM, messing w v6... anyways, just wanted to point out, I get the reboots, sometimes with a lockup, that do NOT show up in uptime or the battery stats (stock). had one 12 hrs ago and both didnt catch it. Mine does the soft reboot, just blacks out then comes back a second later, starting into the SD scan. About every 3rd time, it locks up first, I cant get any response from onscreen or cap. buttons, then it vibes one quick burst then reboots. RAM crash? My ram is still high, any tips on a V6 setup would be appreciated, tried suggested ones around...
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Grab the latest V6 (update9beta2) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
MegaRam option #9 worked wonders for mine. Tried other options, but was still getting frequent 'soft' reboots when memory would leak out completely. I simply installed Advance Task Killer to monitor reboots, because anytime it would do a soft reboot the little green guy would be back.