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JI6 - No LagFix, etc.

So, OCLF breaks the vibration on JI6 and while Ryan figures out the problem (I already gave him a logcat) I decided to remove it.
My verdict so far without running any lagfix whatsoever, stock JI6 and the stock kernel is that the phone is tons smoother than what it has ever been. If I didn't know better I could swear that a lagfix was installed solely based on my prior experiences before and after installing one.
Whatever Samsung did in JI6 really helped out. Now, if you run a quadrant you will still get scores within the 900s but that doesn't seem to have any bearing on how fast the phone runs.
I remember when running stock JFD that my phone would constantly freeze while even trying to wake it. Really embarrassing when trying to show off to your friends
Anyhow, so far I'm really satisfied with just the stock rom, although I do have root. My only problem so far is the battery. I believe there is something wrong with the modem that it drains the battery way too fast. As a test, I have been streaming Pandora via Wi-Fi for 2 hours. The battery has only gone down 10%. While using 3G, that battery would have been decimated.
So, does anyone want to take a wild guess at what Samsung did to make JI6 faster? The UI doesn't seem to have been changed and it is still RFS.

kangxi said:
As a test, I have been streaming Pandora via Wi-Fi for 2 hours. The battery has only gone down 10%. While using 3G, that battery would have been decimated.
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Uh....decimated? As in reduced by 10%?
Sorry couldn't resist. No idea what's different.

I was saying, that if I were using 3G the battery would have dropped well below 10%. The other day I was using 3G just to browse the web and the battery literally dropped to about 74% in 30 mins. That was when I was using Bionx 1.5 or 1.6.

Those who use stock 2.2.1 only and never apply lagfix/kernels.Pls share your opinion

I really wanted to know how well does 2.2.1 stock firmware such as JS5/JS3 performs nowadays.I read alot posts saying that lag fix is no longer needed in 2.2.1..how well is the battery life without applying the lagfix and kernels? and the performance? Is that really ok we don't apply lagfix or any other kernels on 2.2.1 anymore? so for those who never apply lagfix or kernels on 2.2.1..would you mind sharing how well does your sgs perform? in terms of battery life and performance? Is the sgs on stock 2.2.1 performs not much difference from a lagfixed sgs?

Completely stock 2.2.1 JPY on XEU. No lag at all I can notice except for the Market which for some reason seems to hang for a few seconds but I presume that is the app as it doesn't happen anywhere else. Battery last 1-1 1/2 days on full charge light to medium use.

Stock JS5, flashed with Odin, lost all settings in this progress, but it works perfect since 4 days. Battery life and overall performance improved over JPY.
Personally I see no need to switch to a mod/non-stock firmware. Also, I only needed root once, when the gSensor calibration data got stuck and I needed to delete a special file.

2.2.1 JPY - JS5
On 2.2 (stock) it was a touch laggy, so I used OCLF.
On 2.2.1 its actually faster with OCLF disabled and uninstalled, particularly so on boot....
This also means no worries when the OTA 2.3 update is available in some 8 weeks, no possibility of losing everything in a crashed filesystem incompatibility problem.
YMMV

Johnny55555555 said:
2.2.1 JPY - JS5
On 2.2 (stock) it was a touch laggy, so I used OCLF.
On 2.2.1 its actually faster with OCLF disabled and uninstalled, particularly so on boot....
This also means no worries when the OTA 2.3 update is available in some 8 weeks, no possibility of losing everything in a crashed filesystem incompatibility problem.
YMMV
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OCLF is DATED man. Never even touch it with a barge pole. For those looking for STOCK PDAs to use, check my signature.
PS : I personally feel Modded ROMs are overstuffed & way too bloated. But that's ME.
PS2 : Many people use Modded ROMs for their ability to change the top bar with battery mod & some such things, I use ADWLauncher & with a flick of my finger, the top bar disappears.
Use BattStatt for percent charge remaining & charging mode display, you have hundreds of apps & widgets to help you out.

I feel that you don't need custom rom or kernel's if you are satisfied how it works and looks.
But if you want more speed and less battery drain you need a custom kernel.
Also if you want to change the look you also need to use a custom rom.
People that's say you don't need lagfix has never use them or can't see the different.
With the latest stock firmware the gap between them has shrink, but it still different.
**DamianGTO Ultimate kernel V1. 350MB Ram. 600HZ. all ext2. Js5**

I use stock 2.2.1 JPY and it's fast enough for me, no noticeable lag, basically if the phone was released with the current ROM the term lag-fix wouldn't have existed. I use LauncherPro with other battery apps which provide enough customisations for my needs.
I previously used voodoo on 2.2

My observation, made me believe that there is no need to have any lagfix with 2.2.1, everything loads fine and smooth, a big change. No problem with market even. Only lag, I experienced was because of app but not OS problem.
Battery life: with light use, I get 2 days complete and with medium use, I get 1 & 1/2 day with full (I don't how to define it but I did a lot with phone for example played game for 2 hrs.) use its last at least 12-16 hrs. I did many tests so I am sure. Not bad though.

If you like how it works then there is no reason to change that.
Its big different from 2.1 when I did get the phone. You needed a lagfix then.
But now the phone is good without it.
But you still get alot more out of the phone when you start with custom stuff.
You cant ignore that and when you have crossed that line you never want a stock phone anymore.
But I have full respect if you don't want to custom the phone..
**DamianGTO Ultimate kernel V1. 350MB Ram. 600HZ. all ext2. Js5**

Used lagfix with 2.1. Didn't bother with lagfix under 2.2 and it was horrible. With 2.2.1 though, it's faster than with the old lagfix. Running stock 2.2.1 now.
As has been said, lag fixes wouldn't have been invented for Galaxy S if everything worked as quickly as it does under 2.2.1. They finally got it right.
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I've been using 2.2.1 for ages, am on JS5 now. Recently I install Supercurio's Stock + Voodoo kernel that just gives the EXT4 lag fix without everything else. The phone IS quicker with EXT4, though battery use seems a bit heavier, I'll need a few more days to confirm that. Overall I was happy with stock 2.2.1 and only installed the mod kernel out of curiosity to see what EXT4 file system would do to the phone. I'm in two minds whether to keep it or remove the EXT4 and flash back to the stock kernel. I'd say it's up to you, if you are happy with your phone then keep it stock but if you are at all curious, try out a modded kernel to see, you can always go back to stock if you don't like it!

hmmm..so it seems performance did really improved alot since 2.1...do u guys thinks its ok if applying speedmod by enabling all the tweaks but without changing to EXT4 will have a batter battery life as EXT4 is well known for its battery drainage. As I know speedmod has lots of tweak including battery life tweaks.but the thing is it has sharpness fix and 500hz.i believe it sure use much more battery juice than the stock 2.2.1, well maybe a little? lol..so how do u guys think about this? [stock2.2.1+speedmod tweaks,without lagfix vs stock2.2.1(purely stock)]..lets take stock's battery as a margin bcos i think stock will have the best battery life isnt it since no mods at all.

I feel lagfix (ext4) is still noticeably faster than stock rfs. You notice it much more if you disable all windows animations (i.e. without window animations masking the real speed)

My phone is on JPY 2.2.1 with no mods at all, although I had lag on 2.1 there is no appreciable lag on my present standard set-up.
I normally charge my phone overnight, every night, but when I forget, which I do at least once a week, I end up with 42% battery at 08:00 on the second day, after 24 Hrs, which lasts me until the evening, say 18:00 when I recharge.
The only exception to that battery life, is if I am in a poor signal area for 2g, when I sometimes have problems getting 16hrs out of a charge.

mine is stock 2.2.1 jpy with a few system apps removed and a few custom system apps (ie customized framework.. with icon changed i did myself) and a customized version of twlauncher with transparency and landscape enabled.. also modified wifi with adhoc enabled..
i was not using lagfix but my other i9000m phone before it died/flakey again needed lagfix so tried it for awhile.. (this one is i9000t)
now using speedmod kernel and tried the ext4 lagfix and it is very stable and slightly faster.. same benchmarks about 14 linpack and 1340 or so quadrant. but things are slightly smoother and certain things such as bring up the entire app list or gallery is definately faster (bsically io bounded things)
been using it for over a month with no adverse issues.

flash JPY with odin....very smooth with quadrant 1100 no lag fix needed. battery life almost 2 days with moderate usage. No problem at all until now!

does lag fix improve gaming performance? no?

Thanks SamSprint! (words I thought I'd never say)

So, I don't post too often, but I lurk a lot and like to think I'm pretty experienced with different ROMs. I've used Midnight, ACE, Bonsai, Frankenstein, and a few others. All of them pretty great in their own way. The devs involved are dedicated and brilliant and when you think of the base they were working from, they did nothing short of dark magic. I can't wait to see what they do with this amazing release.
Today, I'm officially back to (rooted) stock. Here's why:
The things I look for in a ROM are battery life, speed, and stability. I think that's a pretty standard list for your average XDA member. EF02 meets and exceeds every item on that list.
First for foremost is battery life. I see that some users are reporting atrocious battery life and some (like me) amazingly (ridiculously good!) battery life. I've been using the phone almost non-stop for 5.5 hours now and I'm still at 58%. That's with some netflix, Rdio streaming, calls, tons of txts, Doggcatcher through the main speaker at full volume, and endless configuration, installs, and tweaking. I'm coming from Bonsai which has some pretty amazing battery life, but it's (seemingly) geared more towards "standby" battery endurance and always drained quickly when I was using my phone a lot. I thought this might be a fluke, but I've rebooted twice now and battery stayed within 2%. All I did was plug in over night and ran battery calibration (the market app) this morning.
Other than that, everything just WORKS. GPS locks stupid fast (after clearing a-data state). 3g/4g. Almost no FCs. Wi-Fi doesn't disconnect. No volume stuttering. No bluetooth weirdness. Nada. It just WORKS!
I was playing asphault, Backbreaker football, and recording HD video today, everything was snappy and flawless. When you consider it's RFS, stock speeds, with bloat and no governor or scheduler tweaks I really am in awe of what the Epic has under the hood and how solid SamSprint have made this.
There's been a lot of contention about how to apply this. There's a flashable rooted/deoxed version out now, but just by nature of that install procedure, I think you're best to use Odin to flash the EF02 tar and then the CWM tar and then flash the su in recovery. Those are the steps I did and I'm running rock solid.
My setup:
EF02 Odin'd
Launcher Pro w/ twitter and gmail widgets (although TW was feeling great when I was tweaking the phone)
Rdio widget
Data and background sync enabled
Screen timeout 30 seconds
Wi-Fi on most the time
SwiftKey (although the new Swype is pretty great)
PS I flashed the zip version last night and had endless issues. Battery heat, no GPS, no audio, wonky data, and eventually a boot loop of death. Odin the way I described above got rid of all the issues.

Ya. Samsung... Thnx u skanky sweaty hog! U pissed with off with the delay on froyo. But u made it up with ginger. I was already convinced froyo would be the end. So thxs u hor.
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I have to agree. I followed the OP steps myself as soon as it launched. I am debating on flashing the kernel out but will wait till something else is out. I prefer more app space so staying on odex for now. I have been removing bloat apps that I dont want slowly to ensure nothing is acting funny. I didn't have to clear agps o nothing for my gps to work properly with that set up. I am running ef10 modem.

[Q] My new experiences with ROMs

Essentially I am just posting this to get my count up so that I can post in the development section.
I have been using the Droid 2 since October 2010. 9 months is the longest time I have ever kept the same model. Prior to that the longest was 1 to 3 months. Even though this phone doesn't work perfectly, the length of time I've been able to endure its use says a lot.
I had my device rooted within a few weeks of acquisition. When the GB leak came out, I had it instantly.
I am still kind of confused as to why I was too scared to install a custom rom. My first rom was Liberty GB .8 And naturally it was AMAZING and EASY. I love the liberty toolbox. My battery life was insane! So many configurations and options built in! I figured if one rom was this great, why not try more...I then tried the latest APEX rom. To me, that rom seemed a little slower than liberty, so I reverted to liberty immediately. Only one known bug presented itself, and that was the adjusting of volume with a bluetooth device, the call would end. After a few days of use, I decided to take the plunge to the almighty Cyanogenmod7...
The installation process was really easy. I already had the sbf files downloaded from switching to the newer rooted GB leak. After sbf'ing z4 root would not work, so I just used the easy one click pc method.
Installing nightly updates every morning probably isn't necessary but that's what I've been doing. I gotta say, I can't wait for a stable release of this rom. I think that this rom probably isn't for the average consumer, and to definitely experiment with something like Liberty first.
There are a few things that aren't quite up to par with this rom (which will be fixed with time I know). The camera app on this rom is actually not that bad. I have gotten used to it. But I can tell that when I have it set on 5MP, that the picture quality is not as good as the stock app. The flash is also not as bright, and I have seen a setting to tweak that, just need to get around to doing it.
With Liberty, I was honestly able to make it 36 hours without having to recharge my device, and was using it heavily (gps always on, bluetooth connected, navigating, phone calls, texting tons, etc). However, with cm7, even with sync off, bluetooth off, and brightness set to low, the battery seems to just fade away, even after re-calibrating it. And yes I am sure the fact that the battery percentage is in the notification bar, that being able to see each percent, might have a little to do with it. Even with the governor set at 600mhz, and profiles with setcpu, still crummy.
Anyway, I am thankful to no longer have problems with my keyboard backlight, and having the ability to use wireless tether, and netflix. (And I don't want to hear any negative remarks about it, because I constantly use wifi when I can, and I rarely reach 1GB of data use). My phone now runs FAST.
Alright, only 9 more posts like this to go.

So, overall, you would recommend Liberty above the others at this time?

If it came down to battery life as the biggest concern, by far, liberty. Its pretty darn fast too. But if you have an extended battery and are able to endure a few kinks for a short time, then try CM7.
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Speaking of, I went back to Liberty! May go to 0.9 but the changes aren't that significant. It was nice to be able to cm7>LGB without sbf'ing!
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Battery Life on different ROMs

So after toying around with a large number of the ROMs on the Aria, I've found a couple things:
The gingerbread ROMs, including CM7, always suck my phone dry the fastest. I'm trying to get ~2 days out of it, but it just doesn't happen. With setCPU and some different profiles, along with minimal usage (~30 minutes talk time/day, maybe 30 minutes on the internet, and pretty much everything off, and maybe an hour of music) I get down to 30% or lower by the end of the day.
The GingerSense ROMs are the worst; I rarely make it through a full day with the same stats described above.
However, I've been running Liberated Aria (a FroYo ROM) for the last week and I've found it to be spectacular in terms of battery life. I'd go to bed and set the phone down with 60% battery; wake up and it's at 55%. Gingerbread would never let me go through a night without taking at least 10% of the battery.
So that's what I've found. What are your thoughts?

I haven't used any of the CM* ROMs but I have used the liberated brand ROMs. As you have found out, if you want a sense based ROM, GenePoole's Liberated 2.2.2 is the way to go. With out a doubt it is the most polished ROM with spectacular battery life. If you use it in conjunction with the Set CPU program to dynamically underclock and overclock your phone, you can't go wrong. You will get ~2 days of battery life.
I'm not sure why it isn't included in the ROM list in the pinned guide... It's the evolution of liberated 2.2, which, should be depreciated in all honesty. There is no reason to use liberated 2.2 instead of 2.2.2.

Well, 2.2 does have a much cleaner look to the status bar, and is more customized than 2.2.2 is. Also, I've run into less problems on 2.2 than I have on 2.2.2, and although it's not a big deal, it's the small things that I've seen that make me happy about 2.2 versus the later variant.

I must have misread your original post. I thought you were using 2.2.2 instead of 2.2.
Anyway, based on my own personal testing, 2.2.2 has better battery life than 2.2, so that's why I used it. But, I never really ran into any real problems on either ROM.
This place has sure got quiet in the last couple of months...

I found CM 7.2 stable to be pretty good with battery life. With moderate usage, I would get about a day and a half out of it. This was much better than earlier versions of CM7 and all CM6 ROMs. I have had the same experience with GingerSense. Never used Liberated or FR008 ROMs.

ECEXCURSION said:
I must have misread your original post. I thought you were using 2.2.2 instead of 2.2.
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I am waffling between the two, but 2.2 has seemed nicer to me, especially the deodexed version; is there a deodexed 2.2.2?

Adam_J_T said:
I am waffling between the two, but 2.2 has seemed nicer to me, especially the deodexed version; is there a deodexed 2.2.2?
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Not sure if there is or not, I haven't really been following the dev progress since I broke my phone in January.
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I think it's just an Android issue coupled with ancient battery technology. Battery life between ROMs has been abymsal, regardless of tweaks. Personally, I am a CM fan, so I've been using it almost exclusively since version 6. Liberated Aria is a great ROM for those who like Sense, but it doesn't do anything CM cannot (excluding the obvious). FWIW, I have found that the typical "tweaks" (brightness, syncing, vibrate, etc) help here and there, as well as underclocking your kernel. V6 SuperCharger also provided good results, but I recommend that regardless of your ROM.