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Wanted to start this so we can get a better idea of what kind of battery life we will be seeing with 2.2! Please post your opinions so far and if you are rooted/stock and using stock kernel or the .34 kernel cyan posted. Hopefully we won't see much of a decrease do to JIT or any other new features
Probably won't be that great the first couple of days...testing out Flash and everything...(watching Hulu right now).
SiNJiN76 said:
Probably won't be that great the first couple of days...testing out Flash and everything...(watching Hulu right now).
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hulu doesnt work for me. i get unsupported device.
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hulu doesnt work for me. i get unsupported device.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686765
i was on CM5.0.7t2, and as we all know, CM is known for draining more battery than the stock rom/enoms but so far im seeing same usage as CM which is ok but not great. next few days will be testing for all of us. hopefully we will have similiar usages not like before where some people are getting 40 hours and some 10 lol
I dont if theres an improvement but I updated on a full battery. After I had 97% then killed the battery in like 5hours while at the Engadget Show lol
is anyone running setcpu with FroYo? im already gettin horribad battery life...probably due to Hulu
I may have done something wrong, but I'm on a rooted phone with kernel 2.6.32.9-27220-g328f560 and my phone went from 80% to 10% in about 4 hours just sitting in my pocket. The most I did was check some emails and some basic SMS.
Will monitor closer tomorrow by my battery usage shows something like 19% email. I wonder if my outlook push is doing something constantly that is hurting it.
Edit: it's also charging REALLY slowly. I have it connected to a USB port and its taken ~ 30 minutes to go from 14-16%.
So far, mine is looking pretty good. Early days yet though.
Its better with froyo.
Had to charge every evening with CM 5.0.6 and pershoots kernel, now i get almost a half day more (with more "playing around").
I use setcpu (245/499 at sleep).
My battery is showing 99% after 3 hours switched on and with light usage. If true, that is amazing! More likely something is not quite right. I am using the .34 UV kernel from persionsown he posted on twitter....
The Jones.. gotta try that Kernel..
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The Jones.. gotta try that Kernel..
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If I believed that it were a true reflection of battery use and not a mis-report of some sort, I would be shouting about it a lot louder!!
i streamed about 1.5 hours of video via qik (uploading not DLing). Still have 60% battery left. I say that's an improvement. Rooted modaco froyo
I'm seeing what I think is significantly worse battery life since I installed Froyo. It's hard to say, though, because I've been playing around in ways that are different from my normal usage pattern (checking the market frequently for updated apps, for example). I was on stock 2.1update1 and now am on stock Froyo.
Battery life is definitely better than Cyano/Modaco/Enomther but it is also worse than stock ERE27. Can definitely make it through a day still though on moderate/slightly heavy use with Froyo something I can't do with Cyan/Modaco/Enom...and this is way faster and more fun than any rom i've had previously so no complaints from me.
Well I was running cyan 5.0.7 and it lasted me longer than this I have now, which is Paul's Froyo.. but since my wi-fi finally stays on I wont revert.
Question: can I still install older custom kernels on froyo???. Want to try...
My battery died sometime last night, and I had gone to bed with it 70% charged. Prior to Froyo, I was on CM 5.0.6 and usually using intersectraven's 925mv kernels, and I would lose about 1.2% per hour while idling.
I'm not blaming Froyo yet, since it could have been an app screwing around. However, the battery usage page didn't show anything out of the ordinary. It will take some more testing before I ditch Froyo until an update is released.
BTW, battery usage while actually using the phone seems to be about the same.
my battery life was phenomenal today. i can't give percentage, because i haven't put on a battery widget (or many widgets at all, tbh), but stock froyo treated me well. was above 80% (guessing by icon) when i left work after 8 hours, some hulu, some wifi, some texting, some phone calls. not exactly heavy usage, but not just idle either.
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my battery life was phenomenal today. i can't give percentage, because i haven't put on a battery widget (or many widgets at all, tbh), but stock froyo treated me well. was above 80% (guessing by icon) when i left work after 8 hours, some hulu, some wifi, some texting, some phone calls. not exactly heavy usage, but not just idle either.
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Check out Battery Indicator http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.darshancomputing.BatteryIndicator/
Great and extremely simple app. I've been using it for months. (And it doesn't drain battery either.)
So, this post is 1/2 "rant" and 1/2 "any ideas", but the JI6 Update has been (in my opinion) a very serious letdown.
First of all, I can't be alone in thinking that the late-September update from Samsung would be a full-blown upgrade to Froyo. Obviously it's not. I guess we'll wait awhile before that's released
Secondly, I'm one of those sorry saps that had the update soft-brick my phone. It took me a few days to get around to the ODIN fix (bumping me back to "stock"), but it was still a royal pain.
Thirdly, I've already seen some issues that I didn't have before. For instance, the phone "froze" on me while sitting at home: no screen response. I had to pull the battery and power up again. Nice!
Finally, the battery life is utterly horrible for me -- and I'm not sure why. Currently at 26% battery life (now 8h 4m since unplugged). 34% of the usage is "display", which has been on for 28m total. 22% is cell standby. 15% is phone idle. 10% is voice calls (2m 10s of that). 8% is the Android System. So on and so forth. Basically, I've *hardly* used my phone today, yet the battery isn't going to last thru to the afternoon. I have 6 active applications, with none of them hitting the CPU at all currently. Best of all? The battery icon looks like I'm about 1/2 full, so evidently Samsung couldn't be bothered to make that icon accurate. I know about the battery icon mods out there (I've used 'em), but I figured Samsung would take care of that.
Sorry for the venting, folks. Is anyone else seeing similar stuff? Any ideas on the lame battery life??
Thanks,
Yip
For me Android 2.1 which samsung released in Galaxy S is exactly like Windows Vista ! No matter how many updates you release for it still will make your phone **** !
The only option is to release a full new OS which is Windows 7 = Froyo !
Better than Windows NT = 1.6
Getting your phone bricked isnt the updates fault, there are hundreds of threads out there and reading just one couldve given you signs of warning.
As for your battery life, I am willing to bet your phone screen is full of widgets. Try limiting those, as well as automated syncing. I get excellent battery life that can EASILY last me the whole day (I actually find myself running avatar/pandora at the end of the night just to drain it so I can recharge the battery).
However, I do agree that the inaccurate battery reading should have been fixed a long time ago (or at least in this update) and that froyo should have been included with the release of this phone.
Your cell standy is too high which means you have things constantly using the cell signal to pull data, thus draining your battery. Right now I'm at 72% with 67% display, 14% voice calls, and 9% cell standby. Been unplugged for 3 and a half hours.
Not great but I'm purposely trying to let it die because I'm reconditioning.
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For me Android 2.1 which samsung released in Galaxy S is exactly like Windows Vista ! No matter how many updates you release for it still will make your phone **** !
The only option is to release a full new OS which is Windows 7 = Froyo !
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Ha! You may just be right on that. Eclair seems like a fairly lame version of Android, if you ask me. Not horrible, but not great.
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Getting your phone bricked isnt the updates fault, there are hundreds of threads out there and reading just one couldve given you signs of warning.
As for your battery life, I am willing to bet your phone screen is full of widgets. Try limiting those, as well as automated syncing. I get excellent battery life that can EASILY last me the whole day (I actually find myself running avatar/pandora at the end of the night just to drain it so I can recharge the battery).
However, I do agree that the inaccurate battery reading should have been fixed a long time ago (or at least in this update) and that froyo should have been included with the release of this phone.
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"Signs of warning" means nothing, my friend. There are folks who didn't even *root* that got soft-bricked with this update. It was (somehow) poorly handled.
As for your widgets comment, well... you would've lost the bet. I use a single screen, no widgets, no weather stuff, bluetooth off, wifi on (but currently turned off), and nothing extraneous. I run Android about as light & frothy as you can get! I prefer speed over just about everything.
Any other thoughts, though? Perhaps I should re-load Autostarts to see if there's anything strange launching at boot time...
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Your cell standy is too high which means you have things constantly using the cell signal to pull data, thus draining your battery. Right now I'm at 72% with 67% display, 14% voice calls, and 9% cell standby. Been unplugged for 3 and a half hours.
Not great but I'm purposely trying to let it die because I'm reconditioning.
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Interesting. Any ideas what would be pinging the cell standby so much? I'm in a high-bandwidth area (full bars), so it's not like the phone is struggling to get signal. I use Gmail and Exchange, but my Exchange sync is set to "hourly", rather than push.
Doesn't seem like I'd need to disable my 3G connectivity. I certainly have never had to before.
You should probably reflash the update. JI6 was great on my phone, no hiccups, no lag, perfect GPS.
Also, you should recalibrate your battery after the update and give it a few days to settle down. I always get horrible battery life after flashing a rom, but after a few cycles I'm back up to 24h+.
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Honestly, I wouldn't know unless I knew your full setup. What I will say is that I do have a lot of widgets and apps running that pull from the internet but yet my cell standby isn't as high as yours. I haven't reduced any of my sync intervals either. The 3G radio can really drain battery fast, faster than even the screen so that is a problem.
Also, in JI6, they increased the strength of the radio so it drains even more battery. I am running the JI6 modem however.
You should use something like WatchDog to see what is constantly running and using CPU. That could give you an indicator of problem apps.
Well, I'm disabling some startup items: Visual Voicemail, Telenav, and Daily Briefing -- none of which I use. Maybe that'll help. I don't know...
I was really trying to run "stock" this time around -- not so much fooling and tinkering with things, but it doesn't appear to be paying off for me. Frustrating.
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Well, I'm disabling some startup items: Visual Voicemail, Telenav, and Daily Briefing -- none of which I use. Maybe that'll help. I don't know...
I was really trying to run "stock" this time around -- not so much fooling and tinkering with things, but it doesn't appear to be paying off for me. Frustrating.
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Oh wow, yea definitely you need to disable all of those. That's the first thing I do. I actually uninstall Visual Voicemail, Telenav, Amazon MP3 etc. ALL of those things constantly run for some reason even without you opening them once.
You're not alone. My battery life is terrible as well after the update. I'm losing 4% an hour on standby.
That said, my phone is smooth and working great when I do use it.
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You're not alone. My battery life is terrible as well after the update. I'm losing 4% an hour on standby.
That said, my phone is smooth and working great when I do use it.
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Amen to that. Except that the GPS is still unreliable.
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I'm having terrible battery life as well.
i'm 24 hours unplugged, sitting at 27%
all stock JI6
Again, if you didn't do so after the update, wipe battery stats and then do a few full drain/charge cycles. My battery life always sucks after flashing a new ROM, but it always goes back to normal given time.
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after the update for me, my gps is much better, but i actually have more lag then i had stock before....
so I need to either flash a kernel, lag fix, or a rom with at least one of those.... its kind of frustrating to have lag just from opening or closing a simple app, messages, or call... I honestly cant believe a phone with these hardware specs can have lag just from somthing as simple going into the dialer and exiting out...
Battery life seems to have decreased a little but still getting a good 20+ hours. GPS is a little better with use wireless networks. Lag is an issue now though. Didn't have much before a the update. Hopefully its solved in another update or froyo.
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So I applied the update on Tuesday through Mini Kies. First experience with this update, it's been great. My phone seems to faster, really I hardly experience any kind of lag or slowdown (and this is in comparison with my stock vibrant running OCLF). Battery life even seems to be better, but that is probably to do with conditioning. So everything has been good except for the fact that my phone has froze on me TWICE today. I'm thinking it's something to do with the apps though. I was in Layar and it was working for a bit when suddenly, it froze, I didn't have to pull the battery I just held the power button down for a good 5-10 seconds and it restarted. The other time was in a game, which kind of concerns me. I suppose I can reinstall both and see how that goes. I'm thinking it has more to do with the apps possibly being corrupted. The first thing I did was install the 2.2 market on my phone and I ran the update all function on like 15 apps that needed updating. Not a good idea imo, the market went crazy and forced closed a couple of times. I'm not entirely sure what is going but it seems like my phone is only freezing in certain apps. I hope it's not just some random freeze that can happen at anytime, that wouldn't be no good.
You guys complaining about battery life... i would Love to have your times. I got 3 hours and 8 minutes today on a fully charged battery.
I have been dabating wether or not to flash a froyo rom and modem. I am currently using ee with phoenix kernel and loving the battery life i get out of it. I have searched the threads but not to much pertaining the the battery life of froyo as there is no kernels yet, most replies to battery life on froyo are a simple its good or i get good battery life. I Wa wondering what kind of battery life people are getting with froyo roms. battery life is the 1st on my list of importance so some with respectable performance would be nice to know so i could make my first froyo jump. Thanks in advance.
I've been on it for a few days now (DK17). I don't use any task manager, or juice defender or anything like that. I have a start-up manager (autoruns) and thats it. I unplugged my phone yesterday at 10:30am and 12 hours later I still had 40-45% remaining after some moderate use... angry birds, asphalt and web browsing mainly.
Hope that helps!
I just flashed 2.2 and used it all day at work for texting, calling, facebook and web browsing and after 9 hours at work i had just under 80% battery life left.
If you are after battery life, then stay on 2.1. I have 4 backup batteries and didn't mind going to 2.2, but I did have a considerable battery life decrease. I find myself changing batteries atleast once a day with these beta 2.2 releases. Recently I haven't noticed it as much, but I think that is due to my getting used to the routine of changing batts every 6-8 hours depending on use.
I really do enjoy the perks of 2.2 though. Flash player with Hulu is awesome, faster phone than 2.1, and the developers are doing a great job of getting some custom themes integrated right now, which makes it not only run great, but look awesome.
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I just flashed 2.2 and used it all day at work for texting, calling, facebook and web browsing and after 9 hours at work i had just under 80% battery life left.
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How many hours would you say you where using it, while at work?
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I've used it the second it came out, some noticeable snags you'll work around just fine. I've had it for atleast 3ish weeks no major setbacks I guess. Just used clock and flashed it. Happy with over all with flash and other new twists....phone can be hairy at times, but I've foun several androids do on 2.2. Speaker everytme you pick up a call with he feature "off". I have had the epic on the first day at day break.....
Just my $.13
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What roms are being used for the better battery life? And how much faster then 2.1 over clocked to 1.2ghz is it if any?
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I'd stay with 2.1 for now. My phone took a serious performance hit going to 2.2... something is wrong with that kernel. Not optimized yet maybe?
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I don't know about you guys, but I am using ACS's Froyo build and my Epic has never had better battery life. By a large margin.
It seems the latest froyo release has been outstanding in terms of battery life. If you're looking for battery efficiency, definitely go with a froyo rom. If you're looking for performance, go with eclair. All in all however, froyo roms are fairly snappy especially considering they are at stock speeds. Can't wait for battery life increases once froyo roms get UV'd.
EDIT: on second thought, I'd have to recommend froyo either way. The improved web browser performance + flash as well as froyo gapps alone make the jump worth it. There's really no 'lag' to speak of on froyo roms... merely, the phone just seems faster on eclair switching between apps and loading/closing them.
I'm using epic experience 2.0(froyo) and my epic has never performed better. Especially gps locks in like 2-3 seconds even without wireless location check marked. Very fast and smooth. Probably just as fast if not faster than 2.1 overclocked to 1.2. For me it seems anyway. Way worth it in my opinion.
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My GPS wasn't working at all on Quantum 1.3, has that been fixed on DK17?
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How many hours would you say you where using it, while at work?
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Probably around 3-4 hours and an hour of that being lunch with me using the phone pretty much the entire hour texting and browsing the web.
Ok, just flashed to 2.2 with the modem from odin and clock work. Gonna see how it turns out.
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battery life is the 1st on my list of importance so some with respectable performance would be nice to know so i could make my first froyo jump. Thanks in advance.
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Honest to God I'll never understand comments such as these. If battery life is the most important thing then why the hell did you buy the most power hungry phone? You bought it for performance didn't you???? Performance and battery life are polar opposites. Much like horsepower and fuel economy.
Let me save you some suspense... you'll never get more than a day out of this phone. At least not if you actually use the damn thing. If you travel, take a car charger. If you are in the office, have a charger with you. If your job requires you to be away from power then bring an external battery. The phone lasts a normal work day between charges so install 2.2 and enjoy your phone for what it is... a powerhouse!
Btw, the battery life seems pretty good in comparison to stock 2.1.
Or u can buy one of the double or more life batteries for $100 that comes with a modified battery cover to fit the extended battery, then couple it with a kickass kernel (phoenix) and have the best of both worlds
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I lost GPS going to Froyo which worked perfectly for me in 2.1. Other than that everything else is better..
I found wifi on froyo drains battery like crazy. Also when I set the browser bookmark to list view the next time I open bookmark brower will fc on me. Other then these and the camera bug, phone seemed to work well..
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My GPS wasn't working at all on Quantum 1.3, has that been fixed on DK17?
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GPS isn't working yet. People have some really ghetto work arounds that work for 1-2 days, but in the end GPS is still bugged as hell.
really think i am gonna hod out for a while....just sayin!
I've been tracking the battery drainage and system usage of the omadrmconfigservice using the system panel app since updating to DK17 and it doesn't seem to kill the battery the way eclair di18 did. Is this just in my head or is anyone else seeing similar results?
I seem to be getting better battery life with Froyo. I also notice that the phone doesn't shutdown as abruptly, when the battery dies. The phone also doesn't take as long to charge before use, when it completely dead. Just flashed two days ago.
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I've been tracking the battery drainage and system usage of the omadrmconfigservice using the system panel app since updating to DK17 and it doesn't seem to kill the battery the way eclair di18 did. Is this just in my head or is anyone else seeing similar results?
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I don't think it is just in your head. After flashing to DK17, I more or less forgot about killing the DRM stuff at boot, and when using the phone only minimally, even with only 3g on (no wifi), I have gotten 54+ hours on a single charge of a stock battery. Keep in mind though, this was with really minimal usage, maybe 3 or 4 calls, same for texts, and about 1 hour with the screen being on. This isn't typical usage for me, more like an extreme case, but I was able to achieve this with nothing additional running or installed like juice defender. I dont have any screenshots to try and prove it, but my point isnt about bragging, just that the power management is fairly decent on the DK17 build (running Quantum 1.5 if interested)
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I don't think it is just in your head. After flashing to DK17, I more or less forgot about killing the DRM stuff at boot, and when using the phone only minimally, even with only 3g on (no wifi), I have gotten 54+ hours on a single charge of a stock battery. Keep in mind though, this was with really minimal usage, maybe 3 or 4 calls, same for texts, and about 1 hour with the screen being on. This isn't typical usage for me, more like an extreme case, but I was able to achieve this with nothing additional running or installed like juice defender. I dont have any screenshots to try and prove it, but my point isnt about bragging, just that the power management is fairly decent on the DK17 build (running Quantum 1.5 if interested)
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I posted this in another battery question thread. It also helps that there's a native option to disable data. It's a great feature on Froyo
Anybody else experiencing pretty bad battery drain with blackhole 2.4? Known issue? I don't want to reflash back to an older version without confirmation because it's a bit of a hassle.
Don't mean to come off crass if it sounds like that, but it's been rather severe the past few days.
Running stupidfast 1.54 fwiw.
Thanks for your help guys.
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I noticed that when I first started using blackhole 2.4 I had awesome battery life, now it has really started to trail off. I can get through the day, but it's pretty low at night.
31% in about an hour... Can't be normal right?
Also I've turned off bln for now because I assumed that had something to do with it.
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If I dont use it overnight it will go from 100% to 45% in about 7 hours. If I am reading the news and just surfing the web it goes from 100% to about 60% in about an hour.
Not sure if it will help, but try charging to full and wiping battery stats in "advanced" in clockworkmod
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I'll give it a shot when I get home.
Thanks.
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31% per hour is too fast, when with display on and heavy use. I only burn battery like that if I leave bluetooth or wifi sharing on. Perhaps brightness is on full. Maybe something quirky in your kernel install. I've seen no battery life change, positive or negative, with blackhole 2.4.
I let my battery drain completely, and charged the phone while it was off to 100% and reset my battery stats. So I'll be testing the runtime now under average use as earlier today. I'll report back with the time in this thread when I can.
try doing *22899 instead of *228 it helped me a ton when my battery was going fast. My battery would go randomly 5% every hour in standby until i did this. Now it goes maybe 1% every 2 to 3 hours.
Usage is much more acceptable now. Btw what's that *228 stuff?
Edit: I looked it up, why would I need to reprogram? Regardless I still tried it out, let's see if it makes a difference.
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Anybody else experiencing pretty bad battery drain with blackhole 2.4? Known issue? I don't want to reflash back to an older version without confirmation because it's a bit of a hassle.
Don't mean to come off crass if it sounds like that, but it's been rather severe the past few days.
Running stupidfast 1.54 fwiw.
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Of all the ROMs and kernels I tried, I consistently got the poorest battery life with StupidFast kernels and BlackHole ROMs. I tried them individually so as to eliminate issues caused by the other (ROM or kernel), and the result was always the same. I can't imagine what the battery drain would be using them together.
I'd try swapping out the kernel since it's the easiest to do and see what difference that makes. Geeknik is no longer developing or supporting the StupidFast kernels, so they're a bit of a dead end at this point anyway.
I get pretty good battery life pairing blackhole with jt 11/29 and a properly rejuvenated battery (sucked to death then overcharged while off once a month or less). Not sure what causes your issue, just want to add that not everyone had the same negative experience.
In terms of geeknik, he is absolutely still making kernels last time I checked, and people still love them religiously. I personally have not had a lot of luck pairing stupid fast 1.54 or 12/20 with black hole, so one may have better luck with super clean for those kernels. I have no idea why, or if my experience is isolated. Human nature prevents me from spending a lot of effort testing configurations that don't work well for me.
In terms of reprogramming your phone with *228 or *22899 (or *22800, whatever that does), you only should be concerned with that if you are getting a lot of signal loss in your standby mode battery stats. It resets the PRL, which is the list of local compatible towers the carrier authorizes your phone to use. More towers means less signal loss, especially relevant while traveling. Now if someone could explain to me why both phones and pdas are too dumb to manage their own PRLs, that would make my year!
Edit: Apparently I have no idea what I am talking about. The link in the next post indicates that geeknik no longer owns a Fascinate and its no longer developing kernels for it. My error.
Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.
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In terms of geeknik, he is absolutely still making kernels last time I checked
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Oh, ok, perhaps something has changed since his latest post here.
Still, I consistently got lousy battery life with his kernels, and honestly, I saw no objective improvement in speed. To be fair, I don't see any speed increase in JT's kernels either. I suspect the majority of people's lag is in the ROM, not the kernel.
Well I'm not experiencing any issues after I did the battery stats wipe last night, so it's probably not the kernel and rom pairing.
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I have been having serious battery problems every since I got the phone.. the other day I installed Blackhole 2.4 running JT's 11/29 kerenel.. also running DJ05.. obviously... and I haven't been this happy with my battery to date! I am getting a good 16 hours of pretty heavy use where as before I would only get 10 hours maybe.. my battery would drop 30 percent at night before.. now it only dropped 11 percent.. still too much IMO but a lot better than what it used to be!
This is not something i've ever had issues with personally, however I do completly drain the battery and fully recharge it, then wipe battery stats from cwm recovery, every few weeks.