As you may see from my sig I maintain torrents of all the ROM's for the Desire S, and it has gone down very well there, people have donated a little money to the idea and I was able to rent and run a seedbox with a 1GB line just for there ROM's, thus giving people a fast and 'free' way to download ROM's
So the question is would people be interested in the same thing for the Note? It costs very little for me to run a seedbox (about $5 a month) and I would happly pay for some/all of this If there was enough interest in the idea?
A few advantages we came up with where
Assuming we would be downloading from a filehost (free)
1) Can pause a torrent
2) Zero waiting time to start download
3) Little to no chance of corrupted file
4) If corrupted only need the file blocks that are damaged
5) Unaffected by timeouts
6) Can seed the file to others (I see it as a +)
7) Could be faster than a free filehost download
If your not sure what a torrent or torrenting is check out the good old wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_(protocol)
This goes to both developers and users, do you want torrents or not?
alot of isp's block torrents so its a PITA to use
panyan said:
alot of isp's block torrents so its a PITA to use
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This is true, however there are plenty of ways round this. And in some country's the big free download sites don't work or are horribly slow, at least torrents can give fast downloads around the world no matter where they are.
But you are right..guess to sides really
I'd like torrents.
IMO its probably safer because packages are less likely to be corrupted.
FirstNoobToBrickHisPhone said:
I'd like torrents.
IMO its probably safer because packages are less likely to be corrupted.
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Indeed a few advantages we came up with where
Assuming we would be downloading from a filehost (free)
1) Can pause a torrent
2) Zero waiting time to start download
3) Little to no chance of corrupted file
4) If corrupted only need the file blocks that are damaged
5) Unaffected by timeouts
6) Can seed the file to others (I see it as a +)
7) Could be faster than a free filehost download
I would most definitely use torrents
It means zero waiting time on starting the download, and no more captcha's
Same here. I use torrents around the clock, and it's simply the best way to share big files. I've seen a couple of devs that have started to use torrents instead of those slow and unreliable sharing services, and i'm glad they do.
So my vote goes to YES.
Torrents are great, cant think why not...so Yes
Since all of the hosting site are closing shop, changing there policies or ending up like megaupload. Torrents became my source for files and entertainment.
Im happy im getting back into torrents, forgot how easy it was.
+1 for torrents and the fact I personally use tTorrent on my handset means, I can still download them straight to my phone if and when needed.
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Yes!
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Yup!
Looks like thats a yes then I shall put in a request to add another seedbox to my account and then open a thread in the dev section, whos the mod for the note? So I can ask to get it stickied once its up
Torrent all the way! I love the idea!
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well the seedbox is ordered so this evening i will start sorting torrents
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I am already seeding quite a few roms on one of my amazon ec2 boxes...(in my sig) We could help each other by seeding the same torrents. Let me know when you are set up?
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Oh christ no, Torrents are good for things which remain the same for a long time, like a movie, but a ROM becomes out of date the moment a new one is released...
Stick to DDL (rapidshare should be used more, I recon). I'd love to use usenet (NZBs) to get ROM's, it fast, no waiting, uploader only needs to 'seed' it once.
Though its only useful to people with a subscription, or if they get it free with an ISP.
It's the developers ROMs though, so really they can upload them where they wish!
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Oh christ no, Torrents are good for things which remain the same for a long time, like a movie, but a ROM becomes out of date the moment a new one is released...
Stick to DDL (rapidshare should be used more, I recon). I'd love to use usenet (NZBs) to get ROM's, it fast, no waiting, uploader only needs to 'seed' it once.
Though its only useful to people with a subscription, or if they get it free with an ISP.
It's the developers ROMs though, so really they can upload them where they wish!
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Fully agree NZB all the way
Torrents are good, but usenet is the way forward!!! NZB's for the win!
RudiRulez said:
Torrents are good, but usenet is the way forward!!! NZB's for the win!
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i don't mind offloading the roms to newsgroups. didn't know users here will want that.
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this question i've asked myself over and over again...
why are ROMs dispatched via RS/hotfile/megashare etc?
obviously this takes away the uptime demand (vs torrents) from the first user (ie: the cook), but i see many people re-requesting hosting on another provider because it's overloaded/broken/corrupt.
i dont have too much issue downloading (as a free user) from the upload sites- but they are far from fast and my downloading PREFERENCE isnt with them, i'd personally prefer to see a torrent.
for a start, torrents are checksumed so you know 100% your getting an non-corrupt download the way the cook desired.
just my thoughts
veehexx said:
this question i've asked myself over and over again...
why are ROMs dispatched via RS/hotfile/megashare etc?
obviously this takes away the uptime demand (vs torrents) from the first user (ie: the cook), but i see many people re-requesting hosting on another provider because it's overloaded/broken/corrupt.
i dont have too much issue downloading (as a free user) from the upload sites- but they are far from fast and my downloading PREFERENCE isnt with them, i'd personally prefer to see a torrent.
for a start, torrents are checksumed so you know 100% your getting an non-corrupt download the way the cook desired.
just my thoughts
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XDA have nothing against providing download links to roms on any site as long as the download link takes you directly to the rom download, i.e. not taking you to homepage of website as this would be advertising or promoting.
I need one, as I am always on the go, and because the sgs plays most formats out of the box it would really be useful. Keep in mind I am asking for a client to download directly to my phone, not a torrent manager. Any help would be apreciated.
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look no further. works like a charm.
I have downloaded gigabytes of stuff on my phone while I am sleeping
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.ws-munday-swarm-jijzA.aspx
waste of battery power IMO
also data rates fees
but is good for emergency to get small things
AllGamer said:
waste of battery power IMO
also data rates fees
but is good for emergency to get small things
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If your on the go I'm sure you are always charging the phone. If you have a laptop you could just use wireless tether. Theses more security on your laptop(ie. Firewalls, virus protectors) than your Droid.
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I tried the 3 torrent clients available and found Swarm to be the fastest. Plus it has the best UI.
They're all quite slow (compared to desktop in the same network) and expensive though.
omg thanks, been looking for a torrent program. I have a grandfathered plan with unlimited data so I am going to make it worth it.
i like dTor better
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.dtor
much nicer layout
I really hate these MegaCrap mirrors. So I thought I'd offer to mirror some EVO roms. Perhaps someone can give me an idea of how much bandwidth we'd be talking about per rom?
I have a hosting account with Bluehost with "unlimited" bandwidth and diskspace, though I've never tested them to see what their idea of what unlimited means. I'd be willing to provide mirror space, so long as we're not talking about several terabytes of bandwidth for each rom. The TOS requires that any downloaded files have a link on a webpage hosted on the server, but that should be easy to do.
I think I'd like to limit this to a couple of roms to start with, but PM me if you'd like to be the first to try it out. The files would be stored at http://roms.renoiphone.com, which is a tad ironic, but I have other domains as well if the irony is too much for you.
I have started doing this for some of our dev's here...alone on a few leaks and some WIP ports I have seen a total of 380GB of xfr since 5/1/11. - last month I started doing this for them on the 13th and it was well over 500GB of xfr. Just a heads up from what I have seen...and like he said..I am willing to host roms as well if he isnt available
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I have started doing this for some of our dev's here...alone on a few leaks and some WIP ports I have seen a total of 380GB of xfr since 5/1/11. - last month I started doing this for them on the 13th and it was well over 500GB of xfr. Just a heads up from what I have seen...and like he said..I am willing to host roms as well if he isnt available
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Thanks for information. That's not too bad. I should be able to host a few and see if bluehost squawks about it. I should hope not.
Koush of rom manager and clockworkmod fame has free hosting for rom devs.
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I have a hosting account with Bluehost with "unlimited" bandwidth and diskspace, though I've never tested them to see what their idea of what unlimited means.
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File sharing/storage is against their TOS, fyi.
tjleeland said:
Thanks for information. That's not too bad. I should be able to host a few and see if bluehost squawks about it. I should hope not.
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Don't host anything popular... too many http connections and they'll shut you down. And it's going to be hella slow transfer rates (they don't make any guarantees about speed) that will be killed at about 10 minutes if the file isn't downloaded fast enough.
You're better off getting setup with someone like http://www.mediafire.com/
Just sayin'
EDIT: Check this out: http://www.dreamhost.com/unlimited.html -- Bluehost has almost an identical stance on everything, they just don't have a nice little article like that on their website; it's buried in their TOS.
Ryjabo that was a great explanation...even more amusing as I work for a webhosting company and we were just talking about the "unlimited" thing yesterday.
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Koush of rom manager and clockworkmod fame has free hosting for rom devs.
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If so, then why do so many developers use these ****ty file sharing services like megaupload? The one I really hate is whichever only allows you to download something like three files a day.
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File sharing/storage is against their TOS, fyi.
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Actually, I'm fairly sure you're wrong. I read the ToS before signing up, and I just read it again. The only prohibition is on using the space as online backup:
Backup Storage. Bluehost.com offers its Services to host web sites, not to store data. Using an account as an online storage space for archiving electronic files is prohibited and will result in termination of hosting services without prior notice.
Of course, you can't "overuse" the service (whatever that means), nor can you post porn, copyrighted material, engage in illegal activities, etc. But if you can find anything that says file sharing is against their ToS, you have a better eye than I do.
Also, my wife has her own Bluehost account that used to host a four-hour podcast every week. Even when it was the number one video gaming podcast in the UK, and hosting her files for iTunes download, we never had speed or throttle issues over the course of more than a year. Again, not 600 KB/sec, but...
I guess it depends you what you call "too popular" or "too many connections." I'm not saying you're wrong that this amount of traffic would cause them to throttle, but I am saying that they're not as bad as you're making them out to be.
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Ryjabo that was a great explanation...even more amusing as I work for a webhosting company and we were just talking about the "unlimited" thing yesterday.
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That makes two of us.
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Actually, I'm fairly sure you're wrong. I read the ToS before signing up, and I just read it again. The only prohibition is on using the space as online backup
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The space they offer for web hosting is for exactly that: hosting a website. Take up too much space for anything outside of that and they can shut you off.
To be quite honest, I doubt enough people are going to use your mirrors (no offense) to cause any problems for you. I just thought, as someone who has had personal experience with these issues & Bluehost, I should let you know.
I have been shut down by unlimited web hosts for just this reason. The reality is that you need a dedicated server which is at least $100 a month. You might fly under the radar for a while, but in the end they will shut you down.
Host your roms here! Its free and automatically integrates with rom manager. http://t.co/dGRJdMG
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I have been shut down by unlimited web hosts for just this reason. The reality is that you need a dedicated server which is at least $100 a month. You might fly under the radar for a while, but in the end they will shut you down.
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The applicable term to this thread would be "overselling" lol. In the world of hosting there are really three tiers of usertypes. The first is a multimillion/billion dollar company who builds, maintains, upkeeps, etc a huge, usually state-of-the-art building with security, advanced fire suppression systems and electric generator backups. The second kind of user is the much smaller company who leases rack space or sq footage from the building owner so they can keep servers there. They are subject to, and in turn, enforce a strict bandwidth policy. Then the third kind is the guy who leases servers on an individual basis, and finds customers who need to host a website. He can play god with his customers, so long they don't exceed the limits of the guy he's leasing it from.
Hosts (tier 3 in my little example above) know a very, very small percentage of their customers will ever meet the restrictions on their arbitrarily defined packages, so they (often times grossly) oversell a server. Imagine you buy a hosting package that includes 100 GB of monthly bandwidth. Now imagine 200 other people buy it. The box itself has a 2,000 GB monthly hard limit. How is that host able to allow 20,000 GB on a 2,000 GB server!? It's not magic. They know most users will only use, say, between 100 MB and 1 GB of what they paid for. So they sold 20,000 GB of bandwidth but will only actually use well under 2,000. This formula will work into infinity...so hosts cut to the chase and flat out offer unlimited hosting. Until someone comes along who actually *uses* the undefined and vague bandwidth they think they're paying for. Then they get the boot. The old "too good to be true" syndrome. It's just marketing.
This works the same way for storage space, too.
But to be fair, sometimes hosts can be extremely lenient, especially if you're on a vacant server. They've already paid for the bandwidth, someone might as well use it. But as more and more accounts on that server are added and vie for the limited amount of resources allotted to it that month, eventually you'll get squeezed out of the pool.
Anyway, you can get a lot cheaper than that if you get a VPS, and many actual boxes are well under $100/mo if you want something low-powered. Serving files isn't as resource intensive as something like massive database queries, so no fancy multicore systems are needed. When you look at the lowest end boxes, you'll see quite a few come with unmetered 10Mbps. However that usually does bump you above $100/mo if you're going the route of unmetered. You can calculate 10Mpbs(24*7*30) to get an actual figure of bandwidth available that month, but since you can never exceed it, it's easier to just think "as much data as it possibly can serve" while download speeds get more and more diluted.
Right now seem that all download site are down and what are we going to do and how can we get custom rom and file from DEV? I cant even download the ICS V11 file right now.
Not sure dude but I was waiting for this to happen with all that went on yesterday and last night with the FBI and ANONOMYOUS.
Wonder if it is a Cyberlocker Protest like the SOPA blackout. Is Dropbox working? I am at work so Firewall blocks it.
Wonder if XDA will ramp up the size limit on uploads. Most custom ROMs, even at their heaviest would be less that 200mb. Things are definately going to change.
Suppose I could put Passion v11 on and SD card and mail it to ya.
try a different one, dont use magaupload. there will always be a file hosting site, the world demands it.
Megaupload was the only one affected, which itself is a BS issue considering the claims and it hasn't spread to other hosting sites (yet...), bit of an overreaction that you won't get ROMs, there's thousands of hosting sites. Just a matter of time for mirrors of them to be created.
Well Im hoping Dev figure out. Cause I cant wait to see Team Toxic D9 with the final rom before FBI shutdown all the upload hosting site. I got the feeling that FBI is going after all the hosting site very quickly. FBI is one of the stubborn SOB!
Offshore FTP hosting? Ahah.
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It ROMageddon. Dogs and Cats living together. Mass Hysterial!!! Lock up your women and child. Batton down the hatches.
There is always MultiUpload.com
Mediafire as well
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Same here. Multiupload link for v11 is broken for me
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What is the best file hosting site... My personal priorities (no specific order): no file size limit, fast DL speeds for people tryna DL your files, fast upload speeds, FREE, be able to access files on the go and on y computer (computer+mobile app).
My personal favorite way to share files is torrents. If its not practical for whatever your needs are im also a fan of dropbox, mega , and 4shared. Not sure what the file limits on the sites are. I typically use torrents for anything over 500 mb.
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johnylovejoy said:
My personal favorite way to share files is torrents. If its not practical for whatever your needs are im also a fan of dropbox, mega , and 4shared. Not sure what the file limits on the sites are. I typically use torrents for anything over 500 mb.
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Which torrent site? Trying out 4Shared right now... seems pretty good!
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Which torrent site? Trying out 4Shared right now... seems pretty good!
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Well it doesnt really matter what tracker you upload it to. As youd still have to seed it. You could upload to thepiratebay, isohunt , etc. I have a desktop setup at home that I seed from.
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Well it doesnt really matter what tracker you upload it to. As youd still have to seed it. You could upload to thepiratebay, isohunt , etc. I have a desktop setup at home that I seed from.
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Thanks man. 4Shared had a 200MB file upload cap so I deleted that account. But Mega is pretty legit and is allowing me to upload my 1.5 GB backup of my ROM so I'm pretty happy with this so far! Dropbox was WAYY to slow to upload and download.
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