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I couldn't fix the freeze after standby mode problem and the screen allignment so I decided to send it back to htc europe repair centre. Did anyone of you send it back for repair or replacement to htc europe and if yes how many days did it take to receive the device again? And my second question is: did they fix the problems of your device? Take this thread like a poll thing for angry and disappointed tytn users
We have MANY threads of disappointed users about HTC service.
If you are one of these, as I told to someone else, say it LOUD on Internet, in any group, in any on line news, the only thing that a big company understand is the voice of SHAREHOLDERS, we are simply some poor STAKEHOLDERS, but if we make a LOUD noise the may be SHAREHOLDERS will hear us and this ridicolous service will change.
If you are not familiar with stock and marketing language you can search the STAKEHOLDER history...
I bought my TYTN on Internet, I,ve no problem to send it everywere in Europe, using UPS but I want it swapped, even REPAIRED, but in few days, and with a first class customer service.
we have a service here ... (chose the worst county for services, we are below!)
HTC... can you hear our stakes?
@takis999 I sent my TyTN for repair to HTC-UK (in milton keynes England) and the contract i signed and sent with the handset states:
1. ESTIMATED TURNOVER PERIOD
We estimate that we will normally be able to complete orders and return the units to most mainland addresses in the UK within 5 working days from receipt of the unit. Where the repair requires parts to be specially ordered or delivery to remote areas of the UK, or to other countries, this may take longer. One of our Customer Service representatives will contact you in such cases. HTC EU will endeavour to complete all orders within 5 working days from clearance of payment or warranty authorisation.
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Bearing in mind that applies to the UK im not sure how other countries fair with that but seems they do endeavour to fix my handset and send it back to me within a 5 working day period which is great! A guy on another forum (Masseur on Esato.com) also sent his for repair and it was sent back within 5 day...and hes not from the UK!!!! The guy i spoke to at the service centre was VERY VERY helpfull and he informed me that HTC knew about the SA problem and will fix ANY TyTNs (NOT orange,voda or tmobile handsets though...they get sorted out by voda/orange etc...because thats who the contract is with). If the TyTN is less than 14 days old then a replacment will be done, otherwise a repair but im cool with that...standard stuff really
If you wish to wait i can tell you how long my repair took from sending (yesterday 12/10/06) to arrival back here (unknown??)??
@sergiopi Can you add to your profile your Network and Country as that would help???
profile added, thanks for suggesting.... I am in Italy, in Rome (every roads brings to..., except HTC's ), I've seen were you are from.. so you know STAKEHOLDERS meaning
Also MY contact from HTC was very helpfull, but she wasn't involved in repair. She gaves only a 199 number (special and expensive numbers), then from this number I had a second number, in Rome, just to know that they collect and send the phones to the first number, but they are not HTC, they don't know even that is a company involved in phone business, more or les 15-20 days, no courtesy service.
INDECENTE in italian
Some service is available in Russia.
It is more oriented for cases with "device does not boot", "damaged bootloader", "stuck at bootloader", "flash with wrong image file", etc.
However, it does not cover parts replacement.
In terms of timing, it takes 1-2 work days for fixing a problem, additionally DHL, EMS or what shipping carrier would you prefer, to organise shipping between your country and Russia.
You need to describe your situation first, before shipping device, by mail or by phone, to make sure you will not send a device which was crashed or droped in a ocean.
We have to admit also that local HTC service centers are not satisfactory, and sometimes even refuse to accept xda, although on warranty.
rgds.,
iStrium
Keep in mind that by contracts HTC is not allowed to perform direct service/repair on HTC products sold via the big service providers. Another reason for us to welcome HTC´s decision to push its own brand and open sales and service centres everywhere they have a market. XDA is a O2 brand, and at least in Germany O2 replaces faulty HTC phones within a few days.
HTC is directly in the market, but NOT in the SERVICE market .
They just sell directly, not SUPPORT directly. they want more revenues , not be prepared to have CUSTOMERS!
Well done HTC! I understand isn't in the DNA of the company, but Steve, Bill, are you sure you want this?
It is very clear, for sure it is not co-business to keep service centers for HTC. But to have number of local contracts with service companies. To authorize their service centers, train staff, provide some equipment and technology enabling them to perform reasonable "customer care". What I was saying, I guess, is that it is not the case in Russia. Athorised HTC service centers in Moscow is a joke, they have no clue how to run business properly.
Additionally, HTC does not give them a lot of "knowledge". They know how to perform basic tests, no more. As the result, no surprise, there are un-authorised service centers, and they do pretty good. They have good equipment and what is more important knowledge. Otherwise, I think, they would not survive.
I am saying this because went thru the repair cycle and saw how it works (meaning did not work). Globally, pretty sure, it depends on country and location. On a reality HTC does not care much about customers. They jumped on a market, but not ready for all aspects, especially service. And finally, to be honest, non of such companies are interested to spend much money to provide good customer service, it is very little profit of it.
So, we have to take care about ourselves.
rgds,
iStrium
that would be willing to help me out with a phone repair.
I have spoken to the Samsung repair Center at Repulse Bay, they said the would fix it but do not deal with mail orders.
I would be happy to compensate you for your time, and of course pay for any repair costs (should there be any cost) via any method we can work out.
Please let me know as I could use the help...
Or even any info on a repair shop that would work via phone/post... Any info would be appreciated, I am almost out of ideas...
Have you tried your local Samsung repair shop? (I assume you bought your phone in Hong Kong but you are using it in another country??)
I am on a small island south of Japan... no local repair shop... spoke with Samsung Japan...
and since the device is HK... they will not service it...(nor do they do mail order)
Thats stupid of samsung No international fix. Don't want to hijack thread but I brought a Siemens A6688 10 years ago in HK and it broke somehow and when I called Siemens up they not only fixed my phone but exchanged it for a new SL45 (Euro model of the A6688) Maybe it was just good service at Siemens Australia. Samsung Japan should take note and not care about all this gray market warrenty bs
Yea its stupid seeing they are an international corporation. I bought my iTouch from UK and they gave me free repair in HK 3 years ago!
Damn ... that worries me ... as I'm working in Taiwan on contract for 6 months and have a Canadian Galaxy S. I just hope it doesn't break! For such an international company you would think they could handle a phone outside of it's respective country. Even if it meant waiting longer for different parts (which I would totally be cool with as long as they honored their warranty worldwide).
Ouch. I had this exact same problem two months ago.
HK Samsung are completely useless and absolutely refuse to service via courier or mail.
I had some luck with Samsung Australia, they didn't seem to care that it was a HK phone and they serviced it for $50 AUD (Just a reflash, no 3br pre-JIG hack days).
If it is just a software problem, maybe give the homemade JIG a try?
....LOL.... I didn't even think to call a third country Samsung Service Center...
but it is a real, real brick... not even a flash of the screen... no adb response... not even the charging battery screen....
I say give samsung Au a call just in case and say samsung hk are being pricks or you could actually tell them truth that HK don't do mail ins and don't speak english (ok this is a fib)
Ah, Not sure if Samsung Australia will do anything via mail or not. I sent it to my family in Australia and they did the leg work.
E-mailing Samsung Australia was kind of pointless. Long reply times and generally unhelpful.
Contacting the service centre directly was fine though.
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HK don't do mail ins and don't speak english (ok this is a fib)
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Ugh. It's not. They practically don't.
It was like communicating with a brick wall.
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Ugh. It's not. They practically don't.
It was like communicating with a brick wall.
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But still better than trying to speak english to a random store employee of any store..lol..
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Ah, Not sure if Samsung Australia will do anything via mail or not. I sent it to my family in Australia and they did the leg work.
E-mailing Samsung Australia was kind of pointless. Long reply times and generally unhelpful.
Contacting the service centre directly was fine though.
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...well... that brings me back to my first dilemma...LOL...
Still looking for a Hong Kongiean that would be willing to help me out?
I wanted to thank chanw4 for agreeing to be my Hong Kong eyes and ears..
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I sent my Galaxy Tab for repir to UK service centre and it seemed stuck.
I have been told today that they actually have not got the software / tools to repair it yet in the UK Servie centre and it might take up to 28 days to have it fixed.
Anybody else in the UK has the same issue?
That's almost laughable. Sorry to hear that.
Repair in US
Sent tab in for repair ( 8/9/2011). Bad motherboard declared....none in stock, none to be had. Offered refurb or refund. Took refund.
28 days !!!
do u realy trust samsung?
how many time they delay uk launch ?? 32 G and 64G!!
the solution is (((REFUND))
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The problem is that I had it for just over 28 days so no refund available ... pretty poor.
they told me that they don't know when they receive the 'kit'
I bought an io edition off eBay, screen is peeling now. Dunno if I can get it repaired? Any thoughts?
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I guess it is worth phoning Samsung and not mention where you purchased ... just give them the data and then see if they raise a repair order.
They will ask for the proof of purchase when you send the item - I gues you could just print the receipt of ebay - and then see what they do.
Mine is from US - so i have the same issue.
You might want to check the Sale of Goods act.
They have to repair or replace it in a reasonable time frame or offer a refund (It can be a partial refund but don't mention that to them). If they don't have the tools, they can't repair it so should replace it.
Chase them up and mention the SoG Act. Most companies get their ass in gear once this is mentioned. Drop a mention of Trading Standards too if they don't do something about it.
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You might want to check the Sale of Goods act.
They have to repair or replace it in a reasonable time frame or offer a refund (It can be a partial refund but don't mention that to them). If they don't have the tools, they can't repair it so should replace it.
Chase them up and mention the SoG Act. Most companies get their ass in gear once this is mentioned. Drop a mention of Trading Standards too if they don't do something about it.
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The Sales of Goods Act applies to the retailer, not the manufacturer - so if you buy an item from outside the UK, it has no bearing on matters.
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The Sales of Goods Act applies to the retailer, not the manufacturer - so if you buy an item from outside the UK, it has no bearing on matters.
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True. I didn't see the last replay stating that it's from the US.
Not much you can do then. I'd keep on at them though tbh.
I was wondering if anyone else who owns the HK version has submitted the Warranty card ? Am hesitant to fill it out and send it in thinking if there was ever a problem I would have to send it to HK for repairs. Or once submitted can i send to Samsung U.S. for repairs?
It did come with a warranty card but has a Hong Kong address.
Any thoughts/ideas?
As far as I know that submitting warranty card isn't needed in HK and all you need, to repair your device, is the receipt. Surely you can bring your device to local Samsung CS for repairing but you will have to pay the repaire charge whether you have sent the warranty card or not.
Well being that I purchased my device from an online retailer i don't have a "real" receipt. I just wanted to know if I go ahead and register the warranty will I ONLY be able to have it repaired ( if/when necessary), in Hong Kong.
I am in the eastern part of the U.S.A. This device is not even sold here yet nor does it appear on Samsung/US's web site.
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Well being that I purchased my device from an online retailer i don't have a "real" receipt. I just wanted to know if I go ahead and register the warranty will I ONLY be able to have it repaired ( if/when necessary), in Hong Kong.
I am in the eastern part of the U.S.A. This device is not even sold here yet nor does it appear on Samsung/US's web site.
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No. You must have the receipt for warranty.
Customer must present the original Warranty Card together with original purchase invoice to Samsung's Customer Service Officer for verification when warranty service is rendered Service fee will be charged if any one of the documents cannot be produced.
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Unless Samsung hace suddenly introduced a worldwide warranty scheme I would think that a device obtained from Hong Kong would have to be returned to Hong Kong for repair.
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Unless Samsung hace suddenly introduced a worldwide warranty scheme I would think that a device obtained from Hong Kong would have to be returned to Hong Kong for repair.
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If you don't have the purchase invoice, even if you send the device to Hong Kong, you will have to pay the repair fee (that means you lost the warranty for your 7.7).
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If you don't have the purchase invoice, even if you send the device to Hong Kong, you will have to pay the repair fee (that means you lost the warranty for your 7.7).
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I requested an official purchase invoice from Negri Electronics in Las Vegas, NV where I purchased the 7.7 off their web site.
Once I get that via email I will print it and have it for my record.
So....I guess I should register the 7.7 at Samsung/HK web site and then be faced with returning it to HK for any warranty repairs?
I was hoping I could register it here in the States and if needed, get warranty work done here in the US.
I am wondering about the warranty registration as well. I purchased my 7.7 from Negri Electronics too. Say, have you managed to change the time so that it doesn't show the correct time for Hong Kong all the time? I've not rooted yet as I just received it this afternoon but noticed the time change setting doesn't seem to work.
It has always been my understanding that if you buy a grey market piece of electronics, meaning a device sold in another country and not imported to your country by the manufacturer, they have no obligation to honor any warranty on it. That's one of the reasons I am hesitant to buy this device right now. If it breaks for any reason, you aren't necessarily covered for repairs no matter where in the world you send it. But I could be wrong.
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I was hoping I could register it here in the States and if needed, get warranty work done here in the US.
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In an ideal situation that would be great.
If...a big if it seems...Samsung were clever they would offer a Worldwide Warranty.
Apart from keeping consumers happy by being able to shop worldwide it would at least put Samsung on par with their major competitor...Apple.
It would also make Apple's litigation somewhat pointless.
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I requested an official purchase invoice from Negri Electronics in Las Vegas, NV where I purchased the 7.7 off their web site.
Once I get that via email I will print it and have it for my record.
So....I guess I should register the 7.7 at Samsung/HK web site and then be faced with returning it to HK for any warranty repairs?
I was hoping I could register it here in the States and if needed, get warranty work done here in the US.
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There is no need to register your device on samsung/hk website. As long as you have the purchase invoice, they will offer you repair service for free in warranty term, according to my experience. (I live in Hong Kong)
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I am wondering about the warranty registration as well. I purchased my 7.7 from Negri Electronics too. Say, have you managed to change the time so that it doesn't show the correct time for Hong Kong all the time? I've not rooted yet as I just received it this afternoon but noticed the time change setting doesn't seem to work.
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When I first got my 7.7 I changed the language to English and the time zone to "Eastern" and have no problems since. It's in settings , date and time I think
Paten said:
It has always been my understanding that if you buy a grey market piece of electronics, meaning a device sold in another country and not imported to your country by the manufacturer, they have no obligation to honor any warranty on it. That's one of the reasons I am hesitant to buy this device right now. If it breaks for any reason, you aren't necessarily covered for repairs no matter where in the world you send it. But I could be wrong.
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The 7.7 will be sold here in the US , aren't we in a "Global Economy" now....I hope you are wrong. Go ahead and buy the 7.7 it's an amazing machine and I have had no problems with it either hardware or software, so far. I bought it end of Jan and got it first part of Feb. I have no plans to root it , and am anticipating ICS !
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When I first got my 7.7 I changed the language to English and the time zone to "Eastern" and have no problems since. It's in settings , date and time I think
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Thank you for the reply. I changed the language to English but when I go into the date and time settings the choice for Eastern is displayed but it doesn't actually change when I select it!
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Thank you for the reply. I changed the language to English but when I go into the date and time settings the choice for Eastern is displayed but it doesn't actually change when I select it!
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Had to do a reset and chose the time zone during the setup process. Time Zone stayed at that point but once again it won't change from my setup choice in settings. Called samsung US support for the tip and they helped even though they had never heard of or had any information on the 7.7.
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Yeah when calling Samsung US for help you should tell them you have a 7.0 Plus..since it has the same ROM, i.e., Honeycomb 3.2,.......otherwise they may not even take the call. They have no information and many of the support staff have not even heard of the 7.7
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Had to do a reset and chose the time zone during the setup process. Time Zone stayed at that point but once again it won't change from my setup choice in settings. Called samsung US support for the tip and they helped even though they had never heard of or had any information on the 7.7.
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I may need to do that! Thank you!
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I may need to do that! Thank you!
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He gets a thanks and I don't? Gheez....if I hadn't started this thread you may not have gotten this info.....LOL
lol, thanked too haha.
Awesome.....these forums are invaluable to us.....thanks for your contribution as well.
Is there any chance a person in the U.S. can get warranty service from Samsung even if its the international version?
I want to get the international version instead of the att version but I'm worried about if something goes wrong I'd be screwed
p.s. searched for "warranty" but no results.
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Is there any chance a person in the U.S. can get warranty service from Samsung even if its the international version?
I want to get the international version instead of the att version but I'm worried about if something goes wrong I'd be screwed
p.s. searched for "warranty" but no results.
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I highly doubt it, in case of a repair or exchange you would have to sent it in to the seller you bought the phone from for warranty, or have it fixed in the US and pay for it yourself..
You're on your own, unfortunately. Samsung will not help you. That's part of the risk with international models in the US. FWIW, I've never ever had an issue that required warranty service, on any phone (and I've owned like 20).
FWIW Handset insurance thru AT&T covers any phone as long as you use their carrier. The deductible for the Note 2 is $199.
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Guys just read the Samsung warranty terms. As long as it was purchased and used in your own country, it doesn't matter where it was made our where your vendor ordered it from.
"This limited warranty begins on the original date of purchase, and is valid only on products purchased and used in the Canada, and does not include transportation, installation, removal or reinstallation. To receive warranty service, the purchaser must contact Samsung for problem determination and service procedures. Warranty service can only be performed by a Samsung authorized service center. The original dated bill of sale must be presented upon request as proof of purchase to Samsung or Samsung's authorized service center. Transportation to and from the service center is the responsibility of the purchaser."
In fact, I use to work for an electronics distributor, and often if manufactures were short (I.e. Epson) , they would send us English only models (rather than English/French) or English/Spanish (u.s product) to fill orders.
If it was made by them, then they have a legal obligation to repair it.
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So that means if purchased in the U.S. and used in the U.S., newegg specifically, then Samsung should cover it?
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So that means if purchased in the U.S. and used in the U.S., newegg specifically, then Samsung should cover it?
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If they don't, then you'd have grounds to sue.
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If you live in the U.S. and buy an International version, you have to register it under the Samsung retail country it was intended for; i.e. if it was bought in the U.K., you would go to Samsung.co/uk Once it is officially registered with them, you then have to send it overseas to have it fixed. I had to do that with my Samsung Galaxy Tab.
I called AT&T and T-Mobile here in the U.S. first since I was using their sim cards, but they said that they didn't have the necessary software to fix an International version and I would have to send it to Samsung Service Centre. They third party it out to another company and they "lost" it for about 2 months. I finally got it back about 2 1/2 months later. Several phones calls and emails to them and UPS and about $250.00 in shipping(I sent it expedited) and then the charge of about $100.00 to fix a then "bricked" phone, I got it back!
I think if you buy from some places, they do offer warranties through a third party, so it might be better to go that route.
It seems that the only viable option to cover the International version is through third party coverage.
newegg.com is offering a one year coverage for $59.99 from a vendor called servicenet.com.
Does anyone know of any competing services, for either better price or coverage?
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It seems that the only viable option to cover the International version is through third party coverage.
newegg.com is offering a one year coverage for $59.99 from a vendor called servicenet.com.
Does anyone know of any competing services, for either better price or coverage?
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I bought that warranty, on sale at the time for $46. I was wondering how good they actually are at servicing the phone? Nice thing compared to Squaretrade is there is NO deductible!
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If they don't, then you'd have grounds to sue.
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lol lawyers itt
Nobody is successfully suing anybody. International phones were never intended to be sold in the US. End of story. If you live on Mars and get an international unlocked phone from Newegg, you can't just go and sue Samsung because they originally produced the product for, say Brazil when you are a mars resident. They will say "you need to be a Brazilian resident for warranty coverage since this device was produced for and intended for Brazil." and that will be the end of it. You are not a resident of Brazil so end of warranty claim attempt.
You will sit on mars with a broken phone and no help. Had you purchased a phone intended for Mars, you would then have a 12 month warranty. You did not do that therefore you have zero warranty.
End of legal proceedings.
But by all means, everyone should go sue everyone. Git em boys!!
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lol lawyers itt
Nobody is successfully suing anybody. International phones were never intended to be sold in the US. End of story. If you live on Mars and get an international unlocked phone from Newegg, you can't just go and sue Samsung because they originally produced the product for, say Brazil when you are a mars resident. They will say "you need to be a Brazilian resident for warranty coverage since this device was produced for and intended for Brazil." and that will be the end of it. You are not a resident of Brazil so end of warranty claim attempt.
You will sit on mars with a broken phone and no help. Had you purchased a phone intended for Mars, you would then have a 12 month warranty. You did not do that therefore you have zero warranty.
End of legal proceedings.
But by all means, everyone should go sue everyone. Git em boys!!
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Not sure what your point is.
Samsung CLEARLY states that as long as the phone was purchased and used in the country where is warranty is being claimed, then they'll fix it.
Your mars example is stupid, since Samsung doesn't have an office on Mars
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really depends on the situation. but don't expect anything.
-call them describe your situation, maybe tell them you are relocated oversea after you bought a phone
-file an complaint
Samsung sell different phone in different country. you have an att phone broke and you want it be repaired in Uk, not a chance.
I don't know about other import retailers, but if you purchase an imported Samsung device from Negri Electronics, Samsung will honor the warranty regardless of where you live. The only stipulation is that you include your proof of purchase from Negri Electronics when you submit your claim. Alternatively, you can send your device into Negri and they will forward it to Samsung for warranty service. Just an F.Y.I.
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I have a hobby is cell phone/mania (I changing phones every 3-4 weeks)
Long time ago I bough Galaxy Note (exynos). Then that phone appeared in US but it was different- Snapdragon. I did hardbrick (I was one of the first before the mass epidemic).
I call to samsung US they sad your phone from Europe we got different here. (call to europe)
So I called there, they sad you located in US, we can't help you.
(after hard brick my motherboard was ****ed, no one fixed).
But here is different. We got same SPECS !!!!
Chance is 50/50
Best bet is third-party coverage.
On my GN1, I went with Securranty.
This time around I went with Negricare.
2-year plan on either is about $95. Both cover lost/stolen in addition to accidental damage and defect/malfunction. Deductible is $75 on Negricare.
The reason I switched companies is that I could not get ANYONE at Securranty to return a simple email inquiry. That doesn't bode well for if/when there is a problem and I need prompt resolution.