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U.S.A. warranty and Squaretrade insurance question. Please help!!!

I was looking to purchase a Samsung Galaxy SII i9100 (U.K. version) but I know that Samsung won't honor the warranty since its a not a U.S. phone.
I was reading some old threads on this about how for $94 Squaretrade will insure your phone for $600 for two years but some people said they would cover it and some said they wouldn't...
Then I got this directly from Squaretrade's website:
"Coverage Details
2 years of coverage: The SquareTrade Smartphone warranty covers your Smartphone for up to 2 years, starting on the date of purchase.
Covered Issues: Both accidents (e.g., broken screen or other damage through drops AND liquid damage including full immersion) and out-of-warranty normal use failures (e.g., battery no longer charging or other hardware failures) are covered. We do not cover loss, theft, willful damage or damage occurring through gross misuse."
This scared the hell out of me, I've never used Squaretrade before. Lets say something goes wrong and I contact them for support... wouldn't they just say "sorry we only cover out-of-warranty repairs you need to go to Samsung U.K. since you have a 1st year warranty through them" ???
Kind of a big purchase (over $600) so I need to be sure that I am covered before pulling the trigger
Also does anyone know the general cost of shipping a galaxy s i9100 from the U.S. to the U.K. for samsung to repair it?
Thanks for you help I really appreciate it.
P.S. in case anyone says to search I already looked through both of the U.S. warranty threads and didn't find an answer

If you a buy a phone in its country of intended sale from an authorized Samsung dealer it's covered by Samsung's two-year global warranty. So if you buy it in the UK and have it shipped to the U.S. it'll be covered as you'll have a receipt from the UK in GBP. Expansys-USA also sends phones they sell in the U.S. back to the UK for repair through their office there. Now that the phone's being sold in the U.S. there's a good chance you could get a UK phone under warranty repaired here. Samsung's very strict and requires a receipt and/or a credit card statement before they repair a phone under warranty. They also have a DB of serial numbers that show which phones were sent to which resellers. Their warranty system is hard to scam.
SquareTrade does cover gray market phones. This is from their T&C:
If the manufacturer refuses to honor their warranty because they consider your item grey market or not purchased from an authorized retailer, we will still cover you.
And yes, assuming you get your phone from the UK or from Expansys-USA, SquareTrade only covers what the manufacturer doesn't. But if you crack the screen or cause damage to the phone that Samsung woudn't cover it's still good to have SquareTrade as a back-up.
Owning a gray market phone is a pain in the ass if something goes wrong. If it has to be repaired in the UK you'll be without for a couple of weeks. If you want the safety and security of carrier insurance and swaps for defects stick with an American version.

BarryH_GEG said:
If you a buy a phone in its country of intended sale from an authorized Samsung dealer it's covered by Samsung's two-year global warranty.
Expansys-USA also sends phones they sell in the U.S. back to the UK for repair through their office there.
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So if I purchase through Expansys-USA that means I still have the 2 year (or is it 1 year since it was bought from a Expansys branch in the States?) warranty and if anything goes wrong I send it to their U.S. branch which then forwards it to their U.K. branch to get repaired?
Is there any sort of warranty f.a.q. on Expansys website that says this in writing that I can print out? I looked on their website and found nothing detailing this U.S. to U.K. forwarding process and don't wan't to have something go wrong and then later on an Expansys-USA rep that doesn't know much telling me "Ooooh no sir, we don't do that... you have to go through Samsung U.K. yourself to get repairs"
BarryH_GEG said:
Owning a gray market phone is a pain in the ass if something goes wrong. If it has to be repaired in the UK you'll be without for a couple of weeks. If you want the safety and security of carrier insurance and swaps for defects stick with an American version.
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Gezz why the heck does Samsung make it so hard for Americans? You'd think they would want to make it easier for potential customers to buy their products that make them money instead of blacklisting the product from warranty and turning sales away

ap3604 said:
So if I purchase through Expansys-USA that means I still have the 2 year (or is it 1 year since it was bought from a Expansys branch in the States?) warranty and if anything goes wrong I send it to their U.S. branch which then forwards it to their U.K. branch to get repaired?
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In essence, Expansys is your warranty. I'm guessing they act as middle-man for the life of the Samsung warranty which, internationally, is two years. You really need to check with them.
Is there any sort of warranty f.a.q. on Expansys website that says this in writing that I can print out? I looked on their website and found nothing detailing this U.S. to U.K. forwarding process and don't wan't to have something go wrong and then later on an Expansys-USA rep that doesn't know much telling me "Ooooh no sir, we don't do that... you have to go through Samsung U.K. yourself to get repairs"
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E-mail their sales group and ask them to send you an e-mail confirming their policy. If you want to buy the phone in the UK, Handtec, Clove, and CleverBoxes all ship to the U.S.
Gezz why the heck does Samsung make it so hard for Americans? You'd think they would want to make it easier for potential customers to buy their products that make them money instead of blacklisting the product from warranty and turning sales away
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The U.S. carriers are their bread and butter. They'd rather funnel all their sales through them rather than compete by selling unlocked phones direct.

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ap3604 said:
I was looking to purchase a Samsung Galaxy SII i9100 (U.K. version) but I know that Samsung won't honor the warranty since its a not a U.S. phone.
I was reading some old threads on this about how for $94 Squaretrade will insure your phone for $600 for two years but some people said they would cover it and some said they wouldn't...
Then I got this directly from Squaretrade's website:
"Coverage Details
2 years of coverage: The SquareTrade Smartphone warranty covers your Smartphone for up to 2 years, starting on the date of purchase.
Covered Issues: Both accidents (e.g., broken screen or other damage through drops AND liquid damage including full immersion) and out-of-warranty normal use failures (e.g., battery no longer charging or other hardware failures) are covered. We do not cover loss, theft, willful damage or damage occurring through gross misuse."
This scared the hell out of me, I've never used Squaretrade before. Lets say something goes wrong and I contact them for support... wouldn't they just say "sorry we only cover out-of-warranty repairs you need to go to Samsung U.K. since you have a 1st year warranty through them" ???
Kind of a big purchase (over $600) so I need to be sure that I am covered before pulling the trigger
Also does anyone know the general cost of shipping a galaxy s i9100 from the U.S. to the U.K. for samsung to repair it?
Thanks for you help I really appreciate it.
P.S. in case anyone says to search I already looked through both of the U.S. warranty threads and didn't find an answer
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Simple, throw it into the toiled before claiming the insurance.

Screen crapped out within a week.

Had my Note for exactly one week when yesterday I woke up, turn on my Note and notice a big green line going down the left side of the screen. The rest of the screen is now very dim and barely readable even with the screen brightness cranked up to the max. Did battery pull, then factory reset with no success. Never dropped the phone, I haven't rooted the phone, the only thing I did to it was apply the OTA update to 2.36 the day I got it. Everything else is stock, so it seems to be a hardware issue.
Got the Note through a 3rd party reseller on Amazon.com. When I called them about it they said I had to go thru Samsung warranty and they will only exchange the item if it was broken the first time I tried to turn it on. So I guess I'm on my own.
Called Samsung warranty and was told that since it was an international phone it is not supported by Samsung USA. So it appears I am SOL.
ExpansysUSA on the other hand has a 15 day return policy for any issues and they will help you deal with warranty after the 15 day window is up.
Needless to say I'm depressed...Any suggestions for a course of action is appreciated.
Thanks everybody.

only thing i can think of is if you can still get a squaretrade warranty. I think you may have to wait 60 days before they'll accept a claim, but it may be a better option than having an expensive paper weight.

Kamoteq23 said:
Had my Note for exactly one week when yesterday I woke up, turn on my Note and notice a big green line going down the left side of the screen. The rest of the screen is now very dim and barely readable even with the screen brightness cranked up to the max. Did battery pull, then factory reset with no success. Never dropped the phone, I haven't rooted the phone, the only thing I did to it was apply the OTA update to 2.36 the day I got it. Everything else is stock, so it seems to be a hardware issue.
Got the Note through a 3rd party reseller on Amazon.com. When I called them about it they said I had to go thru Samsung warranty and they will only exchange the item if it was broken the first time I tried to turn it on. So I guess I'm on my own.
Called Samsung warranty and was told that since it was an international phone it is not supported by Samsung USA. So it appears I am SOL.
ExpansysUSA on the other hand has a 15 day return policy for any issues and they will help you deal with warranty after the 15 day window is up.
Needless to say I'm depressed...Any suggestions for a course of action is appreciated.
Thanks everybody.
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Ask the seller where he purchased the phone from, ship your Note to Samsung in the country of origin. If he bought it in HK, send it to samsung in HK.
They won't be able to tell you it's an international purchase, you are allowed to travel the world with your phone and keep your warranty.

eitama said:
Ask the seller where he purchased the phone from, ship your Note to Samsung in the country of origin. If he bought it in HK, send it to samsung in HK.
They won't be able to tell you it's an international purchase, you are allowed to travel the world with your phone and keep your warranty.
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I agree. I had a Polish version from hantec. It had about 3 dead pixels with a line going through them (green colour). Called up Samsung UK and they said I had to contact handtec.
IM sure if you call up the skewing branch where your note is from, you can always send it back to them to get a replacement if you have only had the phone for less than 28 days.

eitama said:
Ask the seller where he purchased the phone from, ship your Note to Samsung in the country of origin. If he bought it in HK, send it to samsung in HK.
They won't be able to tell you it's an international purchase, you are allowed to travel the world with your phone and keep your warranty.
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I'll ask them about it again today when their customer service lines open. The lady that I talked to yesterday coulldn't tell me where they got it from and said that I should ask Samsung International. Hopefully I get someone a little more capable on the line next time...
In the meantime I initiated a return authorization request thru Amazon yesterday to see if this will motivate the seller to be more cooperatve.
If that doesn't work I guess I can file for a claim next.
Wish me luck...

Wish you all the best.

I heard good things about handtec, but I'm buying a Squaretrade warrenty just incase. Their warranty's only covers up to $600 though. So if they have to replace your phone, they just cut you a check for $600....the warranty cost's $124, so your really only getting $476 back. You can buy displays on ebay already, but I'm not sure how hard they would be to install.

Update:
The Vendor insists I contact Samsung for warranty repair/replacement. Samsung Latin America in this case. Contacted Samsung Latin America and was told that Samsung products bought thru Amazon.com aren't covered.
I'm tired of getting the run around, I'm going to file a claim with Amazon and see if that works.

It is very unfortunate. If something happens to my Note then I am not going to be able to claim the warranty too as I got it delivered from outside the country. Overall this is negative PR for Samsung that they fuss to give International warranty.

Kamoteq23 said:
Had my Note for exactly one week when yesterday I woke up, turn on my Note and notice a big green line going down the left side of the screen. The rest of the screen is now very dim and barely readable even with the screen brightness cranked up to the max. Did battery pull, then factory reset with no success. Never dropped the phone, I haven't rooted the phone, the only thing I did to it was apply the OTA update to 2.36 the day I got it. Everything else is stock, so it seems to be a hardware issue.
Got the Note through a 3rd party reseller on Amazon.com. When I called them about it they said I had to go thru Samsung warranty and they will only exchange the item if it was broken the first time I tried to turn it on. So I guess I'm on my own.
Called Samsung warranty and was told that since it was an international phone it is not supported by Samsung USA. So it appears I am SOL.
ExpansysUSA on the other hand has a 15 day return policy for any issues and they will help you deal with warranty after the 15 day window is up.
Needless to say I'm depressed...Any suggestions for a course of action is appreciated.
Thanks everybody.
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Did you pay via Ppal or Credit Card ? If you did, contest the charge stating the item had issues from the beginning that the seller did not resolve. When VisaMC hits them with a chargeback, I will bet the 3rd party vendor will say, OK, send it back and we will replace it. If they purchase direct from Samsung, they can get it fixed. Did the items description explicitly say NO WARRANTY ?

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Did you pay via Ppal or Credit Card ? If you did, contest the charge stating the item had issues from the beginning that the seller did not resolve. When VisaMC hits them with a chargeback, I will bet the 3rd party vendor will say, OK, send it back and we will replace it. If they purchase direct from Samsung, they can get it fixed. Did the items description explicitly say NO WARRANTY ?
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From their seller page:
"All products sold by us carry manufacture warranty"
I paid with a credit card. I emailed them one last time telling them Samsung will not cover replacement/repair and asking that they replace my busted Note with a new one. If that doesn't work I'll file a claim with Amazon. I'd rather not intiate a chargeback...yet.

I think you get 45 days to contest a charger? IM sure it varries by the credit card company
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Update
Got an email from Amazon saying that my claim is denied since the sellers page says that there are no returns on cell phones.
I submitted an appeal stating that the sellers page also says that all products sold by them are covered by manufacturers warranty. Even though Samsung USA and Samsung Latin America won't cover it.
If this doesn't work I'll call my CC company and see about getting a chargeback done.
In the meantime I think I'll order a new Note from the better sellers out there. What do you guys recommend? Expansys USA or Handtec?

Try going through Newegg. If it's bad within 30 days they will refund or replace. Otherwise Handtec is great, but if you need warranty ......

You shouldn't be getting/buying phone from on-line sellers such as on Amazon. It's not true that mobile phone (in general) has an international warranty.
You should really wait for an official release in your country.

Do you know the amazon seller name?
I am looking to buy from amazon and based on your experience now I am worried. Can you tell the name of the seller? I had contacted Global mobile amazon seller and was told for warranty purpose you need to ship it back to their office in Germany and they will take care of it.

diasro said:
I am looking to buy from amazon and based on your experience now I am worried. Can you tell the name of the seller? I had contacted Global mobile amazon seller and was told for warranty purpose you need to ship it back to their office in Germany and they will take care of it.
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World Wide Distributors.

The green line on the left is because of the pentile pixel layout, its your green sub pixel.

SquirtingCherry said:
The green line on the left is because of the pentile pixel layout, its your green sub pixel.
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Well he did say a big green line, due to the pentile display it should be like 1 subpixel in thickness not a "big green line" as per OP.

this thread should be stickied. Good info to know when we go about buying a foreign phone

Where should I buy from?

I live in the U.S, I'm looking for the best price, and I'm hoping for an included manufacturer/seller warranty of some sort that stays valid even though I'm in the U.S. I also want to know about restocking fees.
But even if you don't have all that information, I want I hear about your U.S. buying experience, and where you bought from.

I searched high and low for mine but found the best deal surprisingly on amazon.com. It is a pity you just asked cause about a week ago they were going for $637 (without warranty gurantee) on amazon, though the now $645 isn't too bad compared to ebay prices which never seemed to go before $660 at the end of bidding. As for the warranty bit I believe those are going for about $680 ish when last I checked but don't know if the insurance is through the seller and/or samsung.
I too am in the U.S so I understand your concern but as long as the device is brand new Samsung will likely honour the warranty even if out of market area as has been my experience with the Samsung Omnia HD in the past-well at least they offered to service it but it got stolen on route to their U.K service centre.

Anazon seems to be selling a version and claimed US warrenty in the title, but there are some discussion in the review on it.
www.amazon.com/Samsung-GT-N7000-Unlocked-Cellphone--US-Warranty/dp/B0067HQL30/

NewEgg is another source as well. They have a 30 day exchange policy - there might be an additional warranty option too. I definitely recommend getting some kind of protection on this phone,
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Problem with buyer on ebay

I sold a HTC Desire HD with a cracked screen and a missing volume rocker on ebay for £80.
Before sending the phone I tested everything and everything was working perfectly fine.
Now the buyer has messaged me saying the vibration doesn't work on the phone but I am 100% sure that it worked when I sent it.
He hasn't asked for a refund but I'm worried that he will and I can't really afford to issue one.
What can I do? Because it was working when I sent it but I don't have proof of that.
Thanks.
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Depends on what you had in your listing.
Was it sold as faulty or spares/repair? Was it sold with no returns?
Ebay unfortunately have a habit of siding with the seller. Try contacting the buyer and offering a partial refund rather than a full one.

Returns not accepted.
But there was nothing wrong with the vibration, and I don't want the buyer or ebay to think I ripped him off because I didn't, and I don't see how the motor could have broken in transaction.
I'm skint at the moment due to many bills coming in at the same time, so I can't afford any type of refund.
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As long as you were detailed on your ebay listing quoting phone has issues buyer should assume there are issues. Do not fret if he opens a claim against you with ebay, they will look at your posting and see that you mentioned there are defects with the phone, As long as you did not place in ad phone 100% funtional you have no issues and if you did you dont have the burden of proof. As well as look into how long it took seller to reply or even if they took phone apart to repair screen, I had a buyer wanting a refund back saying item did not work 45 days later saying they just opened it. They lost so dont worry about something that has not begun yet. Ebay is a very solid and trustworthy sight that does the right thing for buyers as well as sellers. Unlike craigslist and their scammers.
Edit: Plus they do not get a refund until ebay knows you recieved item back in same condition as shipped. DO NOT OFFER partial refunds cause possible buyer trying to get one over on you let ebay deal with the dispute if there is any.

The vibration motor on my DHD packed in one day. Just went from working to not working. No drops or anything like that, so it could happen.
But...
When did you sell it and when did the buyer receive it? Was there a few days between them actually taking delivery and then contacting you?
When I purchase anything via eBay, I immediately check it and if necessary contact the seller. This is to eliminate any "you've had it a week, you broke it" scenarios.
The fact you listed it as having a cracked screen and faulty volume rocker indicates you were honest with its state pre-sale, why would you hide the fact vibration motor didn't work? I think in any event eBay would see that you were honest with your description.
I would contact the buyer and let them know that it was thoroughly tested before you posted it, and that any damage other than what you disclosed must have happened in the post. And in that case to claim from Royal Mail, DHL, Yodel (or whoever your courier was). I'm assuming you used a method of dispatch that was insured.

Thanks for the great advice Andy
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Quite true what mr. Mod says there but I encountered once almost the same situation as you with ebay. Their rule there states that as long as the defect is not stated in the listing then it's the seller's responsibility. I even hear sellers ranting on the forums about their product's parts being replaced and returned to them but ebay insists a return unless the seller could really prove their claim. Regarding the vibration not working if the buyer states that it's not working since he/she recieved it maybe you both could redirect the case on the courier you used on delivering the package and file a mishandling case on their side.
If you're sure that vibration is working when you said it and the buyer claims that it doesn't work since he recieved it then point it to the delivery man
But before that ask the buyer first when did the vibration stopped working. if he says greater than 1 day then ignore him!

He's now asking for refund. I don't have the money so what will happen if eBay side with him?
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Read the post above yours.

CuBz90 said:
He's now asking for refund. I don't have the money so what will happen if eBay side with him?
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Stand your corner, if you are 100% sure that the vibration worked before dispatch, then you have done nothing wrong. You should direct the buyer to the courier as that can be the only source (other than the buyer) that could've caused the damage.
Sould the buyer file a dispute with eBay/PayPal, just be truthful, state that the vibration motor worked prior to dispatch and that it must have occurred in transit. State that you have contacted the buyer to file a claim with the courier (which you should do, if you have not already).
Worse case, the buyer should return the handset to you, postage at buyers expense, before you refund the money. Should give you chance to relist it if necessary. In my experience, although limited, with eBay & PayPal is that if you are honest you should be ok.

The buyer is happy with me contacting Royal Mail to claim. I insured the postage so should be fine, but I've had a problem with Royal Mail insurance claim in the past.
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As long as you state the facts, you should not have an issue. Insured carriage is designed to cover circumstances such as yours. Contact the buyer and ask for photo's of the packaging, perhaps that shows signs of mishandling.
I actually did a bit of temporary driving work for Yodel, driving HGVs between depots, and I can guarantee that your packages are thrown about.
If the pictures show dents, crush marks or anything to suggest mishandling, you are covered.

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As long as you state the facts, you should not have an issue. Insured carriage is designed to cover circumstances such as yours. Contact the buyer and ask for photo's of the packaging, perhaps that shows signs of mishandling.
I actually did a bit of temporary driving work for Yodel, driving HGVs between depots, and I can guarantee that your packages are thrown about.
If the pictures show dents, crush marks or anything to suggest mishandling, you are covered.
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ebay will always side with buyer, if u want to "play the ebay game" then get the item sent back with tracking, wait on the refund ebay will refund your buyer, you then refund ebay but u dnt repay. instead u dispute the claim ie phones more damaged than when u sent it. hey presto ebay pay the refund and u get the phone to resell.
maybe not the correct way but id say this buyer just wants a partial refund hes playing the "ebay game" as he knows ebay will ask u to refund.

RMA in UK for an in2020??

So I'm in the UK and i bought it on eBay, brand new in July from a seller in Sweden, it's been great but noticed yesterday that something internally has come loose and is moving about (maybe a camera component as it's in the top half)
The seller is giving me the silent treatment so far but i wondered if i would be returning it to them or direct to Oneplus? and where?
Tia!

You'll still be covered by Paypal, so get a claim in ASAP. Also, the IN2020 model is the Chinese variant, so won't be covered by warranty in the UK.

Yes this is what i thought regarding the CH variant, just went through the repair steps on UK oneplus site and looked like it was going to let me return it? didn't complete though as i haven't got a temp phone yet.
A PP claim would involve a full refund tho and i'm not sure i need to do that? Could maybe save some quids though as the 8pro is £70 cheaper now

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You'll still be covered by Paypal, so get a claim in ASAP.
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PayPal will only cover a SNAD (Significantly Not As Described) claim if the fault was already there when the item was first received. It is not a warranty.

In this case the problem developed only a few days ago.

r3k0 said:
In this case the problem developed only a few days ago.
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Go PayPal buddy, UK will return it I would have thought, they won't have parts, my OnePlus 5 went to Czech Republic when RMA'd.
Could ask but why should you if it's faulty, you as the buyer are protected way more than the seller, I've learned this the hard way, even though I wasn't at fault

Ok well i requested a return with UK oneplus so will say what they say tomoz.
I mean what will be quicker though? I will have to return it before seeing my money back, then i have to buy another which will take close to a week to arrive, prob not a lot in it i guess? but i suppose i could make the saving as well? :/

So looking at my paypal i bought this on 17th of June.
Which means i don't see any option for returning for a refund? Can't see it on paypal or ebay.
Do i have to contact paypal?

r3k0 said:
So looking at my paypal i bought this on 17th of June.
Which means i don't see any option for returning for a refund? Can't see it on paypal or ebay.
Do i have to contact paypal?
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Afaik theres a 6 month fair usage policy globally for goods bought.. Not sure if they have to adhere to this but I'd have thought so.
You don't expect things to go wrong that soon. So you should have a case.
Tbh though they may just fix the device lol (OnePlus I mean)

There are only two valid scenarios for claiming through PayPal - Item Not Received (INR) or Significantly Not As Described (SNAD). Neither of these are true in this case (the phone was received, and was working when it was received), so there is no valid claim against PayPal.
Had the phone been bought from a UK-based seller, then the contract would have been with that seller and they would have been responsible for repair or replacement. I have no idea what the situation is in Sweden, but they may have similar legislation.
The OP may be lucky, and OnePlus UK might repair/replace (although there's no legal obligation on them to do so), but if not then any responsibility sits with the (Swedish) seller of the phone.

r3k0 said:
So I'm in the UK and i bought it on eBay, brand new in July from a seller in Sweden, it's been great but noticed yesterday that something internally has come loose and is moving about (maybe a camera component as it's in the top half)
The seller is giving me the silent treatment so far but i wondered if i would be returning it to them or direct to Oneplus? and where?
Tia!
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Wait. So this isn't just the image stabilisation module? Because I feel something loose when I shake my phone too...

feld719 said:
Wait. So this isn't just the image stabilisation module? Because I feel something loose when I shake my phone too...
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Don't think so... pretty sure mine never had anything moving in it? Can some other 8 Pro owners give there's a shake and confirm it doesn't resemble a baby rattle please
And thanks for all the help and responses chaps, eBay user still not replied so still waiting to hear back from OPUK, so we will see and i will keep this thread updated

r3k0 said:
Don't think so... pretty sure mine never had anything moving in it? Can some other 8 Pro owners give there's a shake and confirm it doesn't resemble a baby rattle please
And thanks for all the help and responses chaps, eBay user still not replied so still waiting to hear back from OPUK, so we will see and i will keep this thread updated
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Does the rattle decrease when the camera is on?

feld719 said:
Does the rattle decrease when the camera is on?
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Haha Yes! but i'm still 99% sure it shouldn't do it? Did yours always do it?

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Haha Yes! but i'm still 99% sure it shouldn't do it? Did yours always do it?
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Yep mine does it.
Was reading about it here some of the samsung forums https://www.bing.com/search?q=phone...8eda50e86fc85f51&pglt=547&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=U531
Honestly I can't remember if mine always did it or not.

Dang, seems fairly common across diff phones then... :/
I have dropped mine a few times while in a decent case so no signs at all from drop damage but maybe this is what dislodged it? They are prob originally held in place with double-sided sticky tape like a lot of components in phones... Whack!!

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There are only two valid scenarios for claiming through PayPal - Item Not Received (INR) or Significantly Not As Described (SNAD). Neither of these are true in this case (the phone was received, and was working when it was received), so there is no valid claim against PayPal.
Had the phone been bought from a UK-based seller, then the contract would have been with that seller and they would have been responsible for repair or replacement. I have no idea what the situation is in Sweden, but they may have similar legislation.
The OP may be lucky, and OnePlus UK might repair/replace (although there's no legal obligation on them to do so), but if not then any responsibility sits with the (Swedish) seller of the phone.
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If someone buys something from via PayPal and it goes wrong a few weeks / months later, there's no case to answer?? That cant be right..
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r3k0 said:
Haha Yes! but i'm still 99% sure it shouldn't do it? Did yours always do it?
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They all do if mate. It's normal

dladz said:
If someone buys something from via PayPal and it goes wrong a few weeks / months later, there's no case to answer?? That cant be right..
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You are buying a phone from a Seller. All that PayPal are doing in that transaction is acting as the payment processor. As part of their service, they offer protection to the Buyer against (1) Item Not Received (you pay for the phone and nothing arrives) or (2) the item being Significantly Not As Described (you receive a phone with a broken screen, or you pay for an 8 Pro and you receive an 8, or even an empty box).
They do not offer a warranty - if the item arrives, and it is as described, then PayPal's liability ends at that point.
Any warranty issues (i.e. the phone having problems some time after arriving) are the liability of the Seller and have nothing to do with PayPal. (In some cases the manufacturer will offer an additional warranty and will repair an item directly, but that's a goodwill offer on their part, not a legal obligation).
The complications in this particular case are that (1) the Buyer is in the UK and the Seller is in Sweden, (2) the Seller is not being responsive, and (3) the Buyer has admitted to having dropped the phone a number of times.

Philip said:
You are buying a phone from a Seller. All that PayPal are doing in that transaction is acting as the payment processor. As part of their service, they offer protection to the Buyer against (1) Item Not Received (you pay for the phone and nothing arrives) or (2) the item being Significantly Not As Described (you receive a phone with a broken screen, or you pay for an 8 Pro and you receive an 8, or even an empty box).
They do not offer a warranty - if the item arrives, and it is as described, then PayPal's liability ends at that point.
Any warranty issues (i.e. the phone having problems some time after arriving) are the liability of the Seller and have nothing to do with PayPal. (In some cases the manufacturer will offer an additional warranty and will repair an item directly, but that's a goodwill offer on their part, not a legal obligation).
The complications in this particular case are that (1) the Buyer is in the UK and the Seller is in Sweden, (2) the Seller is not being responsive, and (3) the Buyer has admitted to having dropped the phone a number of times.
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Ah @ 3
that changes things.
fair enough, tbh i've had my fair share of crap as a seller with paypal, they're not the best customer service i've ever had lets put it that way.
Anyway, i think he'll get it sorted via RMA in the uk tbh, i think it'll work.
Or it'll be too late by the time they've fixed it.

Ok, so is dropping it from say 1 to 2 foot is not part general use? Obviously I'm not going to declare this so really it shouldn't be an issue.
I agree that Paypal don't really have a part of this, but if they offer reimbursement/guarantee on this sort of thing then yes i will take them up on that but I'm not going to push it.
Just waiting to hear back from Oneplus...