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Hey guys, I was wondering if the new Verizon Wireless phone (the Eris) is actually their HTC Hero.
They claim it's a seperate model (HTC Desire.) Either way I was curious what was needed to get ROMs going for it. Any help is greatly appreciated.
hobbiteer said:
Hey guys, I was wondering if the new Verizon Wireless phone (the Eris) is actually their HTC Hero.
They claim it's a seperate model (HTC Desire.) Either way I was curious what was needed to get ROMs going for it. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I may be out of date, but I thought the Eris wasn't rooted yet (which is is a prereq for getting ROM's installed on it).
The Eris, Cellular South, and most other versions of the phone had patched the vulnerability that Sprint had left in the phone and so it's not quite as easy currently.
It hasn't been rooted yet, and there is little to no enthusiasm to get it rooted. It may be a while before we get those custom Roms.
Well that's kinda sad. Is there any particular reason? I mean I don't own one but I am just curious. Is it just that its not seen as a demand for it or something like that?
Exactly, all just a numbers game. The vzw Eris will get rooted someday though, it might even be by you
It's a combination of lack of enthusiastic developers and the fact that the asroot2 exploit that works for the Sprint Hero has been patched. So... Haha. I have one and I've been desperately looking around for a way to root. I don't think enough people are buying it to generate enough enthusiasm to get people to really want to develop
tstack77 said:
Exactly, all just a numbers game. The vzw Eris will get rooted someday though, it might even be by you
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Yep. may also help if I owned one. I still use my trusty awesome G1 and see no real reason to change. But I was debating "fixing" the eris. However I have quite a bit to learn in order to do so. And with the upcoming software patch for it I may want to wait. But thank you for clarifing. I really do appreciate it. If others would like it or like help with it I figure I am more than willing to go at it.
Videofolife13 said:
It's a combination of lack of enthusiastic developers and the fact that the asroot2 exploit that works for the Sprint Hero has been patched. So... Haha. I have one and I've been desperately looking around for a way to root. I don't think enough people are buying it to generate enough enthusiasm to get people to really want to develop
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Yeah I could see that. As the Eris is up against the Moto Sholes I can see why not many people are. Getting one.
Actually, I've read that more people are buying the Droid Eris. They'll come in wanting the Droid and leave with the Eris.
Well it's partly a numbers game but it's partly a "starting from ground zero" timeframe thing. GSM Heros were the first out and they took a certain amount of time to become rooted...then came the CDMA Heros who needed a different way to root and it took a few weeks to get to there as well.
So...while it may or may not take longer, it will probably be around the same amount of time from release-ish before something shows up (or we get lucky with a new shiney kernel exploit to elevate priviledges...)
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So...while it may or may not take longer, it will probably be around the same amount of time from release-ish before something shows up (or we get lucky with a new shiney kernel exploit to elevate priviledges...)
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I disagree. We could be sitting for a while before anything happens. No known exploits, I don't think many people who would develop are rushing out to get one. It'll happen eventually, but it in my opinion, we'll be sitting tight for a while. Not that any of us can complain if we can't find one ourselves, haha.
What about using the Sprint Stock RUU for the Hero to load the original Sprint ROM on it and then rooting it? Subsequently, you could go back to a custom Eris ROM or something of the sort. I don't know if the Hero RUU would work on the Eris though.
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Yeah I could see that. As the Eris is up against the Moto Sholes I can see why not many people are. Getting one.
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I've been reading the Howard Forums and getting the impression that folks are more impressed with the Eris as opposed to the boxy and un-sexy Driod. I knew I was buying the Droid Eris before I called VZW. I am just GLAD to finally be rid of T-Mo after 7 years of service. While they were good for a while, their customer service started to really piss me off lately. There's also the fact that they really didn't train their PDA reps on Android before they released the phones. And the lack of 3G in most of the country was a killer! Now, if someone would like to root this bad boy. I would be most grateful.
aeroterp said:
What about using the Sprint Stock RUU for the Hero to load the original Sprint ROM on it and then rooting it? Subsequently, you could go back to a custom Eris ROM or something of the sort. I don't know if the Hero RUU would work on the Eris though.
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Even if it did work, then you have you'd have the Sprint Rom, not the Verizon Rom. Not sure if it's a good idea or not...
chicojd said:
Now, if someone would like to root this bad boy. I would be most grateful.
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Haha. You and me both. If you're really interested, look around and see if you can help the cause.
aeroterp said:
What about using the Sprint Stock RUU for the Hero to load the original Sprint ROM on it and then rooting it? Subsequently, you could go back to a custom Eris ROM or something of the sort. I don't know if the Hero RUU would work on the Eris though.
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I would try it if someone has the stock VZW ruu to flash back to in case it does not work.
Is there anyway to get the RUU? I mean, what are the logistics involved there?
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Is there anyway to get the RUU? I mean, what are the logistics involved there?
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It's up to VZW or HTC to post it, unless someone on the inside leaks a copy for us.... hint hint... anyone have a copy they want to share with us?
just wondering. I have a sprint hero. but you VZW people shouldn't wait too long, cause i think the droid has the same kernel version as the eris, so when they find an exploit in the droid, to get root you VZW people should be able to use the same exploit. now if the droid's bootloader gets hacked then yeah, you'll probably have to wait.
binny1007 said:
It's up to VZW or HTC to post it, unless someone on the inside leaks a copy for us.... hint hint... anyone have a copy they want to share with us?
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Haha. Wishful thinking, but I'm right there with you. I can't believe they patched the asroot2 exploit.
Ive been flashing my htc phones for a long time now, but im new to android and the rooting process... Im trying to learn more and help with the Eris if possible, but I have a simple question. Is the only way to root the Eris, to get the original RUU?
I have the Eris now, and if I can do anything else I would be willing to do so!
Ok THIS is cool (if it works)
http://www.unrevoked.com/
The code from it is what Regaw used in his thread on how to root 2.1. I just downloaded and it is an apk. I'm still rooted from 1.5 but it appears you can download from your phone and run the app and then you have root.
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i dont know if it works for hero users, but ive read quite a few success stories over at the evo forums.
I had a sneaking suspicion that the key to rooting the Hero was going to be tied to the Evo. The Evo gets rooted soon after Google I/O and they held the code back to get it done until evo release day, which makes sense. I'm quite happy with how things are looking. When I eventually scrape the pennies together to get the Evo I'll be able to root it easily.
That's going to be a lot of pennies. I told one of the guys from work I was getting the Evo and he was like "son of a b!tch" I can't afford one right now, but the look on his face was funny.
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That's going to be a lot of pennies. I told one of the guys from work I was getting the Evo and he was like "son of a b!tch" I can't afford one right now, but the look on his face was funny.
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I can get one at new subscriber rates in 11 months. I'm hoping that in 6 months the Evo is old and busted and there will people dumping it for brand new hotness. What I'd really like is an Evo specced phone without 4G or it's upcharge.
gunnyman said:
I can get one at new subscriber rates in 11 months. I'm hoping that in 6 months the Evo is old and busted and there will people dumping it for brand new hotness. What I'd really like is an Evo specced phone without 4G or it's upcharge.
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Plus 1 on that! I'm not unhappy with my Hero though. I AM sort of regretting getting the Hero, because now I want the cool new phones! Actually, I'll blame it on the Instinct and being on the everything family plan, which give me premier account status, where I get the full upgrade every year...
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The code from it is what Regaw used in his thread on how to root 2.1. I just downloaded and it is an apk. I'm still rooted from 1.5 but it appears you can download from your phone and run the app and then you have root.
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Maybe Regaw will chime in on this and tell us what's going on with it, and if someone just took his work and turned it into an app.
Confirmed
I confirm this 1 click root does work on the Hero. Love this method. Great work from the developers.
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Maybe Regaw will chime in on this and tell us what's going on with it, and if someone just took his work and turned it into an app.
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if you read his rooting guide, you will see that they collaborated.
did it root with 2.1, or with 2.1+the ota update that was recently released?
instructions
I went to the web address....there are no instructions on how to use it. Do you download to your phone or to your computer?
On your phone.
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nemesys504 said:
I confirm this 1 click root does work on the Hero. Love this method. Great work from the developers.
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I too did this, but now my Hero won't update the weather and I can't access the market...something about a data connection error.
Anyone else experiencing this?
oops, make that "a network error has occurred"
unrEVOked is a one-click-root tool by mmastrac who also got a lot of help from the likes of toastcfh, maejrep, and some other guys.
The exploit behind the tool is the exact same one used in Regawmod's root for 2.1, just the boot.img was patched to play nicely with our phones.
Then again, I don't see why this is in the development section.
so.. lol im not to new to this but is this flashing a recovery? or just gaining root and adding su ect ect.
well i will find out in a min either way lol
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worked perfectly, no problems here.
Is there any chance this has messed with my Hero? I can't get online and weather won't display or connect. I have done multiple soft resets. Is there something I am forgetting to do? I downloaded and ran the unrevoked apk.
try loading a custom rom.
or call customer service, Sprint shut off my data for now reason last week and couldnt tell me how it happend.
does the phone make calls? sms? mms?
Well, I did another soft reset, but this time pulled the battery and waited several minutes. The network access came back, weather started working again, etc. So then I downloaded/installed wireless tether and started to play with that but then the network access went down again. I can't figure out if its Sprint getting screwy or this phone
Ok..as some of you already know that this week there was an official announcement that the MyTouch 3G is getting upgraded to Android 2.2.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the both the MyTouch 3G and HTC Hero have the same 528mhz processor....and actually the HTC Hero has a bit more internal memory than the MyTouch 3G.......
So why is it that Hero is not getting Android 2.2. We all know that Android 2.2 is possible thanks to CM6 (Which I'm still running stock ).
If MyTouch is capable..why not the Hero?? and why am I complaining....well not that I don't appreciate CM6...however...SPRINT has neglected its HTC customers..instead they try to push EVO and EPIC..nothing wrong with that....BUT the HERO still could have had 1 last good run and ended with an official Android 2.2 release.
just my 2 cents
shaolin77 said:
instead they try to push EVO and EPIC
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That's the reason why. I wouldn't mind upgrading to the EVO, but I just upgrade to the Hero back in June. If I knew Sprint was going to drop support for the Hero, I would have just waited a few weeks and gotten the EVO.
With that being said, I'm glad Darch brought CM6 to the Hero.
But this means a sense 2.2 port to our phone is even nearer right? This should help the wildfire port building?
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I was following EVO since its early development and wanted that phone...however 2 months before my EVO was released 3 months before the EVO was released my HTC Mogul died...and so without knowing a definite date on the EVO I had to make a decision so I ended up getting the HTC Hero.
I'm slowly itching toward wanting to root....but not sure of a definite way...and now that they did a maintenance update on the Hero...not sure if that is going to impact rooting it and installing CM6.
If I root and install CM6 and decided its not for me can I go back to stock??
shaolin77 said:
I was following EVO since its early development and wanted that phone...however 2 months before my EVO was released 3 months before the EVO was released my HTC Mogul died...and so without knowing a definite date on the EVO I had to make a decision so I ended up getting the HTC Hero.
I'm slowly itching toward wanting to root....but not sure of a definite way...and now that they did a maintenance update on the Hero...not sure if that is going to impact rooting it and installing CM6.
If I root and install CM6 and decided its not for me can I go back to stock??
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You can always go back to stock by running the RUU from sprint.
Are there new procedures to root and install CM6 since the maintenance update recenly...can a one-click unroot program like unrevoked be used first to root an then add cm6?
sorry for the noobish questions...I trying to learn as much as i can before taking the plunge.....
About the only program I really care about is Sprint Navigation..since I'm going to root and flash a new rom any way i can get it back?
shaolin77 said:
Are there new procedures to root and install CM6 since the maintenance update recenly...can a one-click unroot program like unrevoked be used first to root an then add cm6?
sorry for the noobish questions...I trying to learn as much as i can before taking the plunge.....
About the only program I really care about is Sprint Navigation..since I'm going to root and flash a new rom any way i can get it back?
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You can totally get sprint navigation, what you will lose are any HTC apps and Widgets...but there are plenty of alternatives on the market....
I bet once your phone is rooted and you can install root only apps like wireless tether and set cpu you will have no interest in looking back! Let me know if you need any help!
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shaolin77 said:
Are there new procedures to root and install CM6 since the maintenance update recenly...can a one-click unroot program like unrevoked be used first to root an then add cm6?
sorry for the noobish questions...I trying to learn as much as i can before taking the plunge.....
About the only program I really care about is Sprint Navigation..since I'm going to root and flash a new rom any way i can get it back?
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You also don't have to run cm6. You can run any of the custom 2.1 roms and keep all the HTC widgets and everything you're used to. Only difference will be your phone will run the way it should. Super fast, no lag, completely customizable, and dependable. Cm6 is the newest, but the other 2.1 roms are a little more stable and friendly especially for someone new to rooting. The best part is tho, you can switch any time you want at your pleasure. So try whatever you want. Goodluck with your rooting and Rom flashing. I think like most others, once you root and run these custom roms, you'll wonder how you ever got by without them.
Cheers
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I use Cm6 for my daily. It is completely stable. And much faster.
diesel joe said:
I use Cm6 for my daily. It is completely stable. And much faster.
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AMEN! CM6 is fantastic. Run Launcher Pro with the $2.99 widget upgrade, and buy Beautiful widgets for $1.99 and five dollars later you have sense. I held out for a long time on rooting, but it really is the way to get the most from the Hero. My upgrade off of Hero happens later this month. I might go with the Epic over the EVO. But, unlike the hurry I was in to drop my HTC Touch Pro for the Hero, I really am in no hurry to upgrade from the Hero. Great little phone because of root!
I love CM6! I run the Extreme Blue Mod, and my phone rocks now. I did install Gapps because that was my preference.
There is a navigation application in the CM6 build, it's not Sprint Navigation, but, it works very well, and like was said, you can probably download the apk for Sprint Navigation if you like.
I am finding that I don't miss HTC Sense at all. I'm thinking that it was the sense stuff that made my Hero so slow in the first place. I have not overclocked, and my phone is faster than it's ever been.
once you root and flash cm6 you wont want to go back to stock. i said the same thing as you. when i was getting in to rooting and flashing roms.
Thanks everyone for all the helpful information...actually I will need a bit of help I know in theory that I should do the following:
1. Make a backup (Which program should I use?)
2. Root (has anyone used unrevoked app?)
3. Download the CM6 image to my SD card
4. Install from SD
I these are very general steps..however..I want to fully understand what I'm doing.
Thanks again everyone!!!
glen4cindy said:
There is a navigation application in the CM6 build, it's not Sprint Navigation, but, it works very well, and like was said, you can probably download the apk for Sprint Navigation if you like.
I am finding that I don't miss HTC Sense at all. I'm thinking that it was the sense stuff that made my Hero so slow in the first place. I have not overclocked, and my phone is faster than it's ever been.
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+1 you can definitely get sprint navigation and also, I agree that it was sense and all its bloat that slows the hero down! LOVE cm6!
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shaolin77 said:
Thanks everyone for all the helpful information...actually I will need a bit of help I know in theory that I should do the following:
1. Make a backup (Which program should I use?)
2. Root (has anyone used unrevoked app?)
3. Download the CM6 image to my SD card
4. Install from SD
I these are very general steps..however..I want to fully understand what I'm doing.
Thanks again everyone!!!
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1 - download rom manager from the market once rooted and it will prompt you to flash clockwork recovery...very easy to use...
2 - I would go with the thread on here: how to root sprint cdma hero 2.1
3 - download cm6 to the root of your SD card
4 - after you have flashed clockwork recovery you can load the rom right from that app
I would do a bit more reading on rooting your phone so you are sure you are comfortable with the steps....let us know if you need help
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I'm currently running cm6. Super fast!
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I downloaded the CM6 root, and it was faster. I just didn't like the integration software, reminded me of the Samsung OS. So, is there any way to get a root that will look like the Evo? I am not worry about HTC Sence, but I just like the layout.
Thanks,
Dan
Thanks to the reviews on this thread, I just upgraded to CM6 on my Hero and it is AWESOME! Battery lasts forever now even with the data left on. I wonder what kind of inefficient code HTC put on the stock OS that was constantly draining the battery and causing high CPU utilization?
I had upgraded previously to nfinite's ROM but even that slowed after a while and caused me problems. I had managed them for a while by using Juiceextender to keep data from being active all the time, but even that got me maybe 12 hours of battery life. Now I barely have 1 bar gone after 14 hours!
Highly recommend anyone take this on and breathe new life into your phone. I was able to restore even some of the Sprint apps using Titanium backup. Not sure if I care to try to restore Sprint Navigator. I found that it was good but Google Navigator is at least as good, if not better.
HTC HERO!!
I'm only a couple weeks away from my upgrade eligibility and i'm looking forward to getting the EVO. I'm still on a stock HTC HERO. WOULD LOVE TO ROOT IT, but I was told I can't being that my phone is on the new build # ending in .7. Now is there a way to root this phone ( EASY WAY WOULD BE GREAT ) ? I would like to try it before I put my HERO out to pasture. ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED !!!!
STOCK SPRINT HTC HERO 2.1 Upd 1
Build # 2.31.651.7
Yeah, its been done and there are a few threads, but why bother at this point?
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I have a cracked screen and need to get a new phone. Can you still put custom ROMs on the Evo or is that hole closed now?
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"I want to unroot my phone, what is the best way to do this? If you want to root using a different method, or need to return your phone to where you got it from for any reason, read on.
Answer: You need to download a RUU and install it. You can download an older RUU or get a newer one. This will unroot your phone and make it look like you never rooted it in the first place. You can even do a RUU if your screen is busted, just always keep USB debugging on. To use it, follow the instructions in the RUU executable and do what it says. "
from Common misconceptions and other useful information (Updated 10/12/2010)
by ricsim78
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I think he means if he's gonna be able to root the newer evos with new hboot n stuff. Im pretty sure.you can but don't take my word for it.
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.
Icculus574 said:
I have a cracked screen and need to get a new phone. Can you still put custom ROMs on the Evo or is that hole closed now?
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in the dev forums...two guides there
Thanks. I probably should have worded it better. I am running a rooted 1st gen Evo right now and was worried about whether or not the new model (004?) could be rooted by any known method yet.
P.S. Sorry for the typo in the topic line. Didn't catch it with the cracked glass until after I posted.
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Running a rooted 0004 with myn's and king's 11 bfs, so.... yes. However, some of the 0003's are having issues.
Just throwin out there. Andbody think our devs maybe able to use the same exploit? Or similar exploit? I mean maybe our devs can go back and find a similar hole in our kernel?
" Nfinite and Beyond! "
Well just tried the Evo3D temp root on the wifey's Shift and got all the way to the exploit+FAIL "exploit will not work on this device". Dam! But the Dev said on Twitter that it might work on other devices with a few tweaks.
https://twitter.com/#!/agrabren
Just thought I'd post to try to add some help to those of you who ran the OTA and lost root. Thought if it worked it would give one of our Dev's here a hole to get root back on the ole Shifty!
I tried the same exploit and just received an error that this device isn't supported. Here is the thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1149998 I am not sure how it does it.. but maybe it could help?
Bummer...I was hoping it might work.
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Bummer...I was hoping it might work.
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Me too but I am sure it does a device check first. There may be a way but I just don't know how I really hope there is a root discovered soon..
Lol yall are playing with fire! Just wait till the devs get a exploit cus u cant unbrick your phone if u mess up the bootloader and ruu
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Agreed...I'm waiting patiently. If there's no root in another week or so, I'll just reactivate my old Pre and wait it out, then switch back.
That we are , but with risk comes reward. What if it would've given us temp root? Maybe put us in the same boat as the 3d as far as it would put shift devs that much closer to a perm root method for those that took the OTA update.
Just my opinion but i see your point .
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Agreed...I'm waiting patiently. If there's no root in another week or so, I'll just reactivate my old Pre and wait it out, then switch back.
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Is the old pre better than an unrooted shift or something?
Nope! Lol
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Is the old pre better than an unrooted shift or something?
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Well, for me, yes it is. The big thing for me is wifi hotspot, which you can't do on an un-rooted Shift. And honestly, I like the HP WebOS better than Android, but the lack of new apps and several other short comings pushed me over. Overall, I really like my Shift, but I need to get it rooted sooner than later or will need to go back to my Pre for a while.