I live in an area that is about to transition to AT&T, so when my trusty Diamond died, I switched to the HTC Wildfire. Alltel is my provider, so that means CDMA. Alltel still calls it the Wildfire, but HTC calls it a Bee. There are more than just radio differences between the Wildfire and the Bee. Cosmetically, it is different, as is the bootloader version.
Here are the lines from the HBOOT screen:
BEE DVT2 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.24.0000
MICROP-0422
RADIO-1.00.00.10.01
Sep 9 2010,12:37:36
I like the size of the phone. I'm not a big fan of those huge screens, since I like to carry my phone in my pocket. I just don't feel right using a stock phone anymore, so I'd like to wipe the Alltel branding off and maybe get an AOSP ROM installed. That may be possible right now, but even if we can successfully root this phone, I worry that the lack of a Clockwork Recovery image may limit my adventurous nature. Also, I cannot find a link to a stock ROM, should I ever want to sell the phone or just restore it to OOTB software.
After poking around in various forums, it looks like this phone may have been dead-ended before I even picked it up. There does not seem to be a lot of effort to get it up-to-snuff, with respect to ROOT and ROMs. Not that it is a big deal, since I'll be on AT&T in a month or two anyway. I would like to lend a hand to any devs out there that feel like playing with it, but I'm not holding my breath.
Given that installing a ROM seems to be unwise at this point, what would you do with the phone? I could pay a little more and get the CDMA Desire, but the dev situation for that phone is not much better, and it is a pocket-buster. Looks like I'm stuck.
Not sure if you can root your phone yet, although someone with more experience would be able to tell you more. Your hboot is different than mine, my version can not be rooted yet.
You can find roms here http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Buzz/
I'm fairly sure that this can be rooted, but since I can find no Clockwork recovery and no shipped ROM, there is no going back. The bootloader on mine seems to be an older one, so that should not be the hold-up.
OwenW71 said:
I'm fairly sure that this can be rooted, but since I can find no Clockwork recovery and no shipped ROM, there is no going back. The bootloader on mine seems to be an older one, so that should not be the hold-up.
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What andriod version are you running then? Of couse you can do it, you just have to find a shop that has a xtc clip, buy one, or wait until unrevoked sorts their tool out ... Since im not going to pay top whack for one of those ive emailed a few shops in my area and im awaiting a response. Im off out tomorrow to see asian dude who does unlocking on the off chance.
AFAIK, all wildfires shipped with 2.1, at least mine did. Keep us posted with your progress. I'm outta ideas.
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Not sure if you can root your phone yet, although someone with more experience would be able to tell you more. Your hboot is different than mine, my version can not be rooted yet.
You can find roms here http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Buzz/
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DO NOT USE THOSE THEY ARE FOR THE GSM BUZZ WILDFIRE AND WILL BRICK YOUR BEE
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I have two of the HTC bee cdma phones I have rooted one and can't find a recovery for it so I can't go any farther with out being able to make a backup. If we can find a recovery we as a community can make things happen. I have posted on other threads stay away from the buzz things they can brick your bee. I have tried to get XDA to start a section for the bee so we are not having threads of now what do I do to fix this I flashed a buzz whatever on my bee. PLEASE XDA START A HTC BEE SECTION FOR US. So we can get some developers to see we are here and need help.
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So I found this on the EVO 3D channel. Looks like they found a hole they may be able to use for rooting 2.3.3!
See the links listed in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135100
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So I found this on the EVO 3D channel. Looks like they found a hole they may be able to use for rooting 2.3.3!
See the links listed in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135100
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I already have root on my EVO whats the point of this?
there is a whole evo 3d forum here on XDA which would be a better place to talk about it
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I love all the posts about just watch here and they'll be tons of posts about the new root. now that one is close.
One post
Right now, there is NO new root. I guaranty you there will be people Fighting to be the first to post when it actually drops. Plus, if you read the thread, they state that it seems to be very device specific...meaning it may not help us, we don't know yet. Unless you are a dev or a tester, we are still in wait-and-see mode.
True but I suspect the same root will work on this device as well. Just surprised to see so little chatter about it
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True but I suspect the same root will work on this device as well. Just surprised to see so little chatter about it
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Why get the hopes up of all of the noobs that took the OTA. The smart ones that got unlucky with a warranty swap or an insurance claim that got 2.3.3 on a new/refurb phone knows where to look and when to ask about it.
I heard unrevoked has a solution. They appear to have bootloader loop issue to resolve before they can publish a solution.
Hope this is true.
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I already have root on my EVO whats the point of this?
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It went over your head completely. Derty-der...
Many people with unrooted phones and GB 2.3.3, S-ON, are waiting for a solution to get flipped over to s-off. So they can root.
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Im sure xda devs are hard at work I will wait as long as it takes them or until they say it can't be done
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sweet i heard they rooted the cdma hero
True, yes it may be coming. Quote the maybe part ok let's all move on.
They actually said last night in IRC that it's unlikely that the exploit will work on Sense 1.0 roms.
Had my old Evo for a long time, even lost the HT letters from the back due to overuse. Anyway, they sent me a new one and just noticed it came with Gingerbread, kernel 2.6.35.10, and was wondering if rooting is already available. The wiki I was on wasn't so sure and I can seem to find a clear cut answer.
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Had my old Evo for a long time, even lost the HT letters from the back due to overuse. Anyway, they sent me a new one and just noticed it came with Gingerbread, kernel 2.6.35.10, and was wondering if rooting is already available. The wiki I was on wasn't so sure and I can seem to find a clear cut answer.
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http://revolutionary.io/
root away! you can do it on gingerbread
Yeah revolutionary is very simple, even get a automatic clockwork recovery.
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ok so i gave my mother my rooted evo and she didnt like it so she made meh try to unroot it (which idk how to do lol) and now im stuck with the black htc screen and 4 caution markers n each corner now i dont remember what ruu i used to root but i did use revolutionary ive seen a few threads on here but none of the files work anymore anyone can help me??
That's the "you ran an RUU and something ****ed up" screen.
Next time do a little research before doing anything similar.
You need to find the most recent RUU & run that. Hopefully that'll get you started in the right direction.
You didn't have to unroot. Just could have run a stock/rooted ROM
Plainjane
Lol, your post made my day. "The 'you ran a RUU and something ****ed up screen'. Hahahahaha.
Edit: OP, if you rooted with revolutionary, then I'm pretty sure you want a RUU that is 4.24 or newer. I think the hboot matters as well. There are thread here in this very same subforum about how to unroot after revolutionary. Just some reading. Lotta work to do now.
Like hipkat said, didn't even need to unroot. I would never unroot, given that even you wanted stock,....you can have it with root.
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Yea i love my root but like i said my mom was tweekin ova it lol now meh personally ive rooted and jailbroken many devices i jus want to get this phone up and running so i can sell it
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You know you are the reason xda came to be. A massive community forged behind your products, and your old model of 'keeping things open'.
Xda has become a HUGE COMMUNITY.
you will become zero and lose your place in the US if dev HTC unlock continues to be the halfass joke that HTC made and that actually is more likely to screw HTC users. We need full unlock, then we can fix our own software, not rely on you.
I love HTC hardware, but I'm buying galaxy or something in about 10 days.
Please listen to our recovery builders and take into consideration the VALID points I KNOW they have brought to your attention. They know Android better than YOU, HTC.
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I agree completely. It is sad to have one of the only manufacturers outside of Google phones that offer an "unlockable" product, yet see so many struggling almost more than without unlock!
Looking a device is understandable from both manufacturer and carrier points of view. When a grown adult, who spends their hard earned money on a device, wants to upgrade and develop their own software why lock them out? HTC will only benefit from the developer community as Android a a whole exists on the theory of open source. CID was found out explored and corrected all within this community and HTC got praise for it. Where is our returned gratitude?
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Bump!
Plus I have written an article on the situation, including the full quote from @toascfh from the discussion in the One X forum!
http://goo.gl/3T4NK
Great job! Hopefully HTC will listen. I know they'll listen to $, but I don't know how much of a dent the custom community would really put in their pocket.
Also, I cleaned up my post. It was written last night with anger/frustration and liquor. Lol
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Could you please clarify for me, and others who aren't completely sure, how this affects devs and users? For example:
1. Can I root?
2. Can I get superuser access and use SetCPU?
3. Can I flash a custom kernel?
4. Can I flash a custom ROM?
Those are some things I'm wondering. All I want development wise on my new toy is improved battery life, which I assume will come via kernel change or SetCPU. Does this seem possible?
Thanks in advance!
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PsiPhiDan said:
Could you please clarify for me, and others who aren't completely sure, how this affects devs and users? For example:
1. Can I root?
2. Can I get superuser access and use SetCPU?
3. Can I flash a custom kernel?
4. Can I flash a custom ROM?
Those are some things I'm wondering. All I want development wise on my new toy is improved battery life, which I assume will come via kernel change or SetCPU. Does this seem possible?
Thanks in advance!
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Do you currently have your EVO with s-off?
The new bootloaders are locking us out from flashing the boot partition from recovery. This means that if you want to flash a ROM you need to flash the boot.img from the ROM through fastboot first, then enter recovery and flash the ROM. Also, you are blocked from flashing from system, i.e. flashing from inside the ROM, like using ROM manager or something like that. As for the kernel I am not so sure... but maybe, unless it is in the boot partition, which I actually think it is...
So, you will use htcdev to "unlock" your phone, then you can use:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
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This will get your custom recovery, however your options from there are limited as stated above.
Then, to flash a ROM, you need to issue:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
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Using the boot.img from the ROM, then enter recovery to flash the rest of the ROM... As far as I understand. Then you will be able to use recovery to flash su binaries gaining superuser access, if necessary.
So, really you are going to be tied to your computer, issuing a lot of fastboot commands just to update ROM's, this severely slows down, and complicates the process, however, it will still be possible.
This all stems from more of a frustration, that HTC is locking things down making hell for users to customize their own device. This is what some 3vo users and many Sensation users and almost all Rezound users are experiencing. With the One series there are many working on this but it is difficult and frustrating.
I do plan to get the EVO LTE, despite the turmoil, and am trying to quickly learn some dev work so I can be a contributing member to the community. Believe me there will be those that stick around, but to lose the likes of toastcfh and cyaniarb... that would be a major set back...
Viperboy has opted for the Galaxy Nexus, but may still come to the EVO LTE, which would be a big help as he has done some great work for locked HTC devices. Though, in the long run, we do need to let HTC know what we want and that we are valuable and indispensable as a consumer group.
Thanks a ton! That is very encouraging to hear that there are still ways to go about doing things, just not as easy to do them. Honestly, the only reason I am a flashaholic now is that there is nothing that satisfies all of my needs. I feel like the EVO 4G LTE will satisfy everything I am looking for, and I'll only need to do little tweaks instead of massive wholesale changes regularly.
Now that being said, I'm still not happy to hear it is making devs run elsewhere, because we need them to create stuff so we have an opportunity to tweak our phones, whether in terms of big changes or not. Is there a way we can draft an email together and everyone who cares on this site can send it to them? Kind of flood their email to send a message?
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Great job! Hopefully HTC will listen. I know they'll listen to $, but I don't know how much of a dent the custom community would really put in their pocket.
Also, I cleaned up my post. It was written last night with anger/frustration and liquor. Lol
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I went into there Facebook told them I'm the tech of the family and they ask me what's the next good phone told them to go with the iphone or Samsung since HTC is locking down yup I'm the one that convinced them to get evo's and evo3D in the first place. You see what they dont take into consideration is we tell people what's the next up in coming hot phone including me I could sway away 8 potential customers not one. Just my two cents
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Someone from the One X thread, where toast laid out the rant I quoted, already submitted said rant to HTC Facebook page.
Another problem with S-on is you can't flash radios. And from what I've seen in the rezound forum, once you update your main version (or firmware), like 4.54 to 4.67 for the Evo, you can't go back. So I believe it you wanted d to test an ICS ROM, and it was buggy, you couldn't go back to GB (using Evo current situation for reference).
As for kernel, I'm not sure how that is affected. As for recovery, I've changed recovery on my Evo using terminal emulator, meaning from within system (android). That can't be done in the current state of development, hence the need for fastboot and to do everything from a computer. I'm not fond of that.
The best way to see the current state of affairs is to do some serious browsing in the one x and rezound forums to see what users are up against.
Glad to hear you're studying up imheroldman. I need to, too. Hell, idont even know how to use cmd prompt or fastboot or adb. Never had to with Evo. Lotta people gonna have to study up, it seems.
Unless HTC gets their **** together. **cough cough cold day in hell**
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imheroldman said:
Bump!
Plus I have written an article on the situation, including the full quote from @toascfh from the discussion in the One X forum!
http://goo.gl/3T4NK
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I tweeted it, not like any one follows me but ...
With HTC claiming boot and USB are locked out because of "security reasons" is their way of saying "screw you, we will only give you a worthless partial unlock and still void your warranty for using it" and the htcdev.com method flags the device so they know you used it so your warranty can't be "reinstated" by relocking your phone like when they exploit and turn s-off then returning s-on so they don't know reinstates your warranty as far as sprint or HTC are concerned. This is the reason HTC locks the bootloader and requires a tool to "unlock" it. Samsung doesn't lock the bootloader at all, they implemented what is called a custom binary flash counter which triggers a number increase when ever you flash a custom kernel that has been modified. And they put the recovery partition in the kernel so it triggers when you install a recovery. However there are ways to reset the flash counter so they can't tell you've modded your phone. I'm not a brand loyal person, I will go with whoever has the device I want. Which is why for now I'm using Samsung. The build quality while made of a plastic is solid, so solid in fact I spilled some water on my phone on accident and it didn't even seep under the battery cover, my evo was laying right next to it and it had water all inside the cover and enough to trigger the water marks. They have really improved their build quality since my intercept which left alot to be desired but it was also a very cheap budget smartphone to begin with. The epic touch and note are very well built pieces of technology they are solid, the joins are smooth where the pieces are attached or the battery cover meets the housing, and still extremely light weight. Even with my snap on hard shell on my et4g its so light I can't tell its in my pocket alot of times I always double check to make sure it didn't slip out.
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Thank you guys for your participation, I have 115 views on the blog entry just today!
I want to believe in HTC, that they will listen and lighten the lock down. We just need to speak up. This is a good start and yes hitting their pages and voicing our opinions as consumers will get their attention!
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Thank you guys for your participation, I have 115 views on the blog entry just today!
I want to believe in HTC, that they will listen and lighten the lock down. We just need to speak up. This is a good start and yes hitting their pages and voicing our opinions as consumers will get their attention!
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The bad part is them claiming they did it for security reasons, it will be hard to get them to unlock something they are claiming they are doing for security. If we can get them to unlock it, its gonna take a lot of convincing. A better option would be to ask for detailed instructions on how to flash firmware to the device with their setup. Obviously they have to flash firmware via OTAs so if they would outline the ROA for the OTA firmware install we could use that to flash our customs
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That is the second option that toastcfh laid out. Apparently that is what the G1 had, full documentation on how to flash firmware. This might be the ultimate option, seeing as they want things to be locked but give those who just want an unlock that ability and for those wanting to go further the opportunity and the tools to do so.
Hahahaha.
Just saw the same thing CM9 on One X
Just saw this in the Evo 3d forum. So yeah, that's encouraging. But, it doesn't have camera working, and I wouldn't be surprised if that remains the case, due to HTCs new image chip and closed code. Decisions decisions 
Granted, this doesn't negate the frustration with S-on.
Edit: see what I did there imheroldman ? Thanks buddy. :thumbup:
Evil, what is the tampered watermark you speak of?
Also, in the 3d thread where I saw CM9 link, I swear I saw they have S-off now! That's great.
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I really like their new "tampered" watermark
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....tampered watermark? Whuuuuu?
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scottspa74 said:
....tampered watermark? Whuuuuu?
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Instead of unlocked it now says ****TAMPERED**** at the top of an unlocked bootloader
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Has anybody ever tryed doing a petition that people can sign to HTC for a full unlock?
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UberJams said:
Has anybody ever tryed doing a petition that people can sign to HTC for a full unlock?
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I think this is a great idea as well. Let's speak up!