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Should we update to S/E 2.1 when avalible ??

Hi forum.
I think this is a good question.
I know from reading here that the dev´s are currently working on a solution for update to 2.1 or 2.2, cracked boodloaders and so on.
And that is really great that someone are dooing all that hard work for all us noob´s...
Now, IF we all decide to update to S/E´s release of android 2.1 in the end of september, what do you then think will happen ??
I can think of some possibillities:
1. We perhaps loose the ability to root for a while.
2. We perhaps cant flash our x10´s back to 1.6 and gain root and cracked bootloader.
3. The dev´s hard work is lost as the new 2.1 bootloader is crypted different.
I hope you all can understand what i´m talking about.
What do you think, is it "safe" to update to S/E 2.1 when avalible, if we still would like to be able to use costum roms and root and so on in the future ??
- perhaps someone in the dev-crew can tell us what they think...
Who knows, perhaps the S/E 2.1 update will be mutch easyer to crack or work with...

I was planning to wait till someone checked..... since you brought it up, I vote you do it.....
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MeZmeriZe_ said:
I was planning to wait till someone checked..... since you brought it up, I vote you do it.....
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Ha ha...
+1 on the waiting, first I want to know the side effects concerning the rooting, I really love this black theme and sony font on my x10
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1. We perhaps loose the ability to root for a while.
2. We perhaps cant flash our x10´s back to 1.6 and gain root and cracked bootloader.
3. The dev´s hard work is lost as the new 2.1 bootloader is crypted different.
lol
1. Dont care less about root, root is useless for most of us because we still can't flash android 2.1 or 2.2 roms.
2. Who want to go backWARD.
3. Give me a challenge to crack it AGAIN!
IMO.

iHim said:
1. We perhaps loose the ability to root for a while.
2. We perhaps cant flash our x10´s back to 1.6 and gain root and cracked bootloader.
3. The dev´s hard work is lost as the new 2.1 bootloader is crypted different.
lol
1. Dont care less about root, root is useless for most of us because we still can't flash android 2.1 or 2.2 roms.
2. Who want to go backWARD.
3. Give me a challenge to crack it AGAIN!
IMO.
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If i remember correctly you already received your X10 with 2.1. You should try it and let us know..

if it werent for root i'd still be stuck on R1 0013 since i had a prototype with no other option to upgrade
we'll see what happens, i don't think anyone can answer these questions yet

So what i am reading from all this is:
"it is better to be safe and not update, than to try 2.1 as noone has a clue what will happen..."
I use root for two things, and i don´t want to loose this.
1. To make working backups with Titanium
2. Wifi teathering. (or what it is called)

Since we are so depending on our Developers, it would be a good idea if one of them could come and help us out before it is actually out?
Biktor?

The dev's aren't just there for you to call at your disposal! They are working hard because they want to, not because you call them over to whatever next you think a good idea is!
Do you think they have unlimited time? Let them work on what they've kindly decided to work on - custom ROMs (1.6, 2.1 etc) - as in the long term we will get much more benefit out of that, than some cheap hack to implement extra features as has been suggested here.
If custom ROMs can never work then if the devs want to they will work on other features. But they are not your slaves and do not treat them as such.

iHim said:
3. Give me a challenge to crack it AGAIN!
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Are you a wizard?

Nimche said:
Since we are so depending on our Developers, it would be a good idea if one of them could come and help us out before it is actually out?
Biktor?
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I won't wait much when I see the update, but I'd be careful. I don't think they'd be updating the bootloader (not even sure if they can without emma), but they might have patched both available exploits and fota package management. And if they patch the fota package we might not be able to downgrade.
Either way we'll see, but if I were an "end user" I'd wait until it's rooted , or at least until we check how fota packages are delivered and know it can be rooted again

biktor_gj said:
I won't wait much when I see the update, but I'd be careful. I don't think they'd be updating the bootloader (not even sure if they can without emma), but they might have patched both available exploits and fota package management. And if they patch the fota package we might not be able to downgrade.
Either way we'll see, but if I were an "end user" I'd wait until it's rooted , or at least until we check how fota packages are delivered and know it can be rooted again
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Thank for your time Biktor. Appreciate your input.

I think once the deve, success to root X10 1. 6 I think it will be easy to root the new update
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I think i will get on the boat when it sails. Our hardworking and respected devs did it ones, took 'em some time, but now they know where to look so i'm quite confident that in a few months time they will be at it again. And i'm in no hurry to get 2.2, i think i can have fun with the 2.1 for some time. I meen, already i almost spend more time looking at and fiddeling with my phone then at the world around me
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Tjotte said:
I think i will get on the boat when it sails. Our hardworking and respected devs did it ones, took 'em some time, but now they know where to look so i'm quite confident that in a few months time they will be at it again. And i'm in no hurry to get 2.2, i think i can have fun with the 2.1 for some time. I meen, already i almost spend more time looking at and fiddeling with my phone then at the world around me
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+10 to that man!!!
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Surely there are other people around here that will upgrade regardless so I'll wait to see what happens to their phone before I try it on mine

Im personally gonna update asap and will let ppl know if there are any probs with the 1click exploids im confident in the devs and if all else fails ima smash my phone and claim insurance ;-) possibly keeping mem card for file transfers lol
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Im probrably going to update it asap. So long I have waited hehehe
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Ok...
It is nice to know that some of you in this forum are willing to take the change, so we within a day or so, know if it is causing problems to update the phone to S/E´s Android 2.1 version...
You people are great....
I will then wait for a few days when the update is avalible, and follow the forum to see what will happen...

i have 2 x10's so i will install 2.1 on one and test root methods once it comes out.

Let me know when you get your Atrix!

Hey guys, shout out and let me know if you get your Atrix today and if you are rooting!
Curios to see how big the community is

designgears said:
Hey guys, shout out and let me know if you get your Atrix today and if you are rooting!
Curios to see how big the community is
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On the truck for delivery right now. I'll be rooting as soon as I get home to grab it, then running a restore of my apps through TiBu.

I want to, but this is my first Android phone and I'm new to all this. The tutorial doesn't back up before the whole process, so I'm wary.
How do I run a backup before proceeding with the breifmobile tutorial?

hopefully my store receives it in its shipment today

FNugget said:
I want to, but this is my first Android phone and I'm new to all this. The tutorial doesn't back up before the whole process, so I'm wary.
How do I run a backup before proceeding with the breifmobile tutorial?
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You can't, because you need root to backup.
But seriously, rooting is not dangerous at all. All it does is pushes a root exploit to your phone, runs it, then once it has temp root, it pushes su and installs superuser.
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Mine should get here within the next couple of hours. (not really mine, its for my GF, to replace her N1)
I'll be rooting and installing ADW after its charged.

Mines on the truck out for delivery as well.
I'm sure I will root after some more reading. This is my first android and I look forward to tweaking it to the max as I have done with my winmo devices in the past. Root access seems to be right up my alley but I'm always kind timid when it comes to possibly voiding the waranty on my shiny new gadget.
Thanks designgears for your part in rooting this device. I'm very happy to see this information already available for when I am ready to take that step.

Well, as i live in the UK, i won't be able to report anything soon. Might consider getting it from America and hoping to God someone finds a way to unlock it. Expensive but might be worth it. I want one. Sucks

On the truck for delivery. I'll root tonight and commence playing.

TheEscapist said:
But seriously, rooting is not dangerous at all. All it does is pushes a root exploit to your phone, runs it, then once it has temp root, it pushes su and installs superuser.
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Thanks for this simplified explanation. Makes me think more and more that I will be rooting sooner rather than later.
I hear that it is easy to unroot for warranty purposes. Is that true?

Mine should be here soon! I am so excited. can wait to root it, first thing! then maybe I will you know, in stall my SIM and maybe use it as a phone, but hacking comes first. Glad to have DG here and in support of this phone, makes me a little happier with it.

Mine is on truck for delivery to my local store. Will post here once I get it. Been Loyal Windows mobile user for 4 years and tried may cooked up ROMs.

Should be here today too!! Ill be rooting right when I get home too so I can restore my apps too!
Droid Incredible Rooted!

killerb7854 said:
Thanks for this simplified explanation. Makes me think more and more that I will be rooting sooner rather than later.
I hear that it is easy to unroot for warranty purposes. Is that true?
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Yep, just remove superuser and /system/xbin/su. Its a simple as starting up an adb shell, and deleting those two.
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Yep, just remove superuser and /system/xbin/su. Its a simple as starting up an adb shell, and deleting those two.
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Thanks again. Looks like I'll be rooting immediately after I get done playing with and familiarizing myself with the new device and OS.
Where is that Fedex guy!

Mine is on the truck for delivery and will be rooting tonight as soon as I get home

It's here!!!! Will be rooting asap

I HAD TO GO TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kids/Wife are home so hopefully it shows up... there's a snow storm though and the delivery guys are notorious for just not delivering in the snow... they drive by the houses they're supposed to and if they're not shoveled and salted they don't even get out of the truck... just drive on by.
I shoveled the entire route to my house from the road... lol.. it's not short.

jiggytom said:
It's here!!!! Will be rooting asap
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Damn you beat me to it, I'm still waiting on FedEx...

jiggytom said:
It's here!!!! Will be rooting asap
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GAAAAHHHHHH!!!! lol

[Q] Am I S.O.L. or is there a way to go back to the 2.2 stock rom?

I accidentally updated to the 2.3 update from sprint, which naturally killed root and battery life of my shift, and so now I'm wondering if there is a way to ruu back to 2.2 so I can root and save some juice, or am I just S.O.L. until devs figure something else out?

This has been answered in several different threads... As of right now there is no way to return to 2.2. Until another root method is found, your pretty much stuck with what you have.
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crump84 said:
This has been answered in several different threads... As of right now there is no way to return to 2.2. Until another root method is found, your pretty much stuck with what you have.
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Wow fml, I should have known better. Thanks for the heads up though. This is going to be a long edc.

I'm in the same boat. If there isn't a solution found within a week or so, I'm going to reactivate my Palm Pre and use it until the fix is found. I NEED to have wifi tethering and the Pre was really easy to get it working on. FML

i just got off phone from sprint for my bill but the girl said she soo busy resting phone back to stock alot of people dont like update so call them maybe a way they can roll it back

I'm certainly going to call and see if they can...

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I'm certainly going to call and see if they can...
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Yeah,make sure you let us know. I updated my wife's phone the other day .I want to take it back to 2.2 so I can root it if need be.

Is it true??? Root maybe coming??

So I found this on the EVO 3D channel. Looks like they found a hole they may be able to use for rooting 2.3.3!
See the links listed in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135100

tnerb123 said:
So I found this on the EVO 3D channel. Looks like they found a hole they may be able to use for rooting 2.3.3!
See the links listed in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135100
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I already have root on my EVO whats the point of this?

there is a whole evo 3d forum here on XDA which would be a better place to talk about it

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I love all the posts about just watch here and they'll be tons of posts about the new root. now that one is close.
One post

Right now, there is NO new root. I guaranty you there will be people Fighting to be the first to post when it actually drops. Plus, if you read the thread, they state that it seems to be very device specific...meaning it may not help us, we don't know yet. Unless you are a dev or a tester, we are still in wait-and-see mode.

True but I suspect the same root will work on this device as well. Just surprised to see so little chatter about it

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True but I suspect the same root will work on this device as well. Just surprised to see so little chatter about it
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Why get the hopes up of all of the noobs that took the OTA. The smart ones that got unlucky with a warranty swap or an insurance claim that got 2.3.3 on a new/refurb phone knows where to look and when to ask about it.

I heard unrevoked has a solution. They appear to have bootloader loop issue to resolve before they can publish a solution.
Hope this is true.
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MrDSL said:
I already have root on my EVO whats the point of this?
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It went over your head completely. Derty-der...
Many people with unrooted phones and GB 2.3.3, S-ON, are waiting for a solution to get flipped over to s-off. So they can root.
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Im sure xda devs are hard at work I will wait as long as it takes them or until they say it can't be done
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sweet i heard they rooted the cdma hero

True, yes it may be coming. Quote the maybe part ok let's all move on.

They actually said last night in IRC that it's unlikely that the exploit will work on Sense 1.0 roms.

Maybe goodbye...

I just had the 5 vibe green light bug. Tried battery pull. No dice. I have hboot, so I'm trying a PB31IMG.zip to see if that helps, but if not, I'll see you on the inc2. My upgrade is on 8/19. Crossing fingers.

Yep, it's dead. I did the PB31IMG.zip and same problem. Any advice would be awesome.
I have a crappy flip phone for 20 days. Thanks to incubus26jc, JoelZ9614, newtoroot, wildstang, wdfowty, and the CM team for being the most awesome devs anyone could hope for. My Inc2 will probably be 2.3 already whenever I get it, so I won't have root. Even if it came with 2.2, I wouldn't root it. I'm not gonna let another phone die. Thanks again for an awesome few months. Agalychnis out.

Oh man. I'm sorry to hear your Inc died, bro. The 5 vibe is a nasty sucker. Have fun with your new toy when you get it though.
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AgalychnisCallidryas said:
Yep, it's dead. I did the PB31IMG.zip and same problem. Any advice would be awesome.
I have a crappy flip phone for 20 days. Thanks to incubus26jc, JoelZ9614, newtoroot, wildstang, wdfowty, and the CM team for being the most awesome devs anyone could hope for. My Inc2 will probably be 2.3 already whenever I get it, so I won't have root. Even if it came with 2.2, I wouldn't root it. I'm not gonna let another phone die. Thanks again for an awesome few months. Agalychnis out.
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dont give up just yet your last hope http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14440621

I got it booted!!!! Next step!! Thanks a bunch. Just for this. Even if it doesn't work. That helped!

AgalychnisCallidryas said:
I got it booted!!!! Next step!! Thanks a bunch. Just for this. Even if it doesn't work. That helped!
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No problem just follow the steps wouldnt want to lose an awesome user like you

It's 1:30 am and I don't wanna screw anything up. I'll try tomorrow. If you're on gtalk tomorrow, when I am, that will help greatly. Thanks again. Night.

I can't figure this out at all. I see no fastboot tool, and I have never used adb. I'm pretty much screwed. I'm on a mac. I really need a step by step. That guide is not clear at all.

Probably getting a new phone today. Most likely droid 3 or inc2.

Just wait until the SGS2 comes out, don't settle for one of those.

1. Download the android-sdk and install it to the root of your hard drive
2. go into androidsdk/android-sdk/ and find platform tools and open it as a command window
3. run the adb commands (in the command window) to fix sdcard
4. now that your sdcard is working put the to files on your sdcard to fix the usb
5.Use temporary root if you lost root and run the adb commands to fix usb
6.and then just root with unrevoked....

I tried that Joel. It didnt work. Thanks anyway. Think mine was just dead. Already upgraded to the inc2 and loving it. I have NO regrets. Thanks for being so awesome. I won't root this but I'll stick around XDA. And to whoever said to wait for GS2, I like HTC better. Thanks again!
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AgalychnisCallidryas said:
I tried that Joel. It didnt work. Thanks anyway. Think mine was just dead. Already upgraded to the inc2 and loving it. I have NO regrets. Thanks for being so awesome. I won't root this but I'll stick around XDA. And to whoever said to wait for GS2, I like HTC better. Thanks again!
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Tried it again and still won't work. Command windows aren't working, droid won't listen to any commands I do get to go through. I'm assuming it's dead. Anyway, I have a week away at camp tomorrow, so that was the rush to get the new phone. I LOVE it! When I get back, I'll keep trying. Like I said, I won't be rooting my Inc2 even if I can, but I'm not leaving XDA. If I magically save my phone, I'll keep it, but won't reactivate it, just keep it as a multimedia/crackromflashing device. Thanks again, dude.

alright probably its because mac works differently than windows

Yeah. Do you have any plans to move to a different phone?

AgalychnisCallidryas said:
Tried it again and still won't work. Command windows aren't working, droid won't listen to any commands I do get to go through. I'm assuming it's dead. Anyway, I have a week away at camp tomorrow, so that was the rush to get the new phone. I LOVE it! When I get back, I'll keep trying. Like I said, I won't be rooting my Inc2 even if I can, but I'm not leaving XDA. If I magically save my phone, I'll keep it, but won't reactivate it, just keep it as a multimedia/crackromflashing device. Thanks again, dude.
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It's a shame you couldn't get it to work. Have fun with your Inc2!
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AgalychnisCallidryas said:
Yeah. Do you have any plans to move to a different phone?
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yea im thinking about getting evo 3d [for a dev phone without service or anything since i already cooked and released a stable rom for them] but like a phone to use [ill dev for it to lol] im thinking about getting a thunderbolt or inc2 [i dont like either of them a lot but theyre the only ones avaliable so ill have to settle but i dont like them because its really going to be hell making custom roms for them because of their world capabilites and 4glte] so id just like a simple good htc phone with 3g from htc lol

If anybody wants to buy me a new phone that would be sweet, lol
Would for sure love to get ahold of a TB or INC2.

She's up and running.