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getting a mytouch, few questions. root/board/sense/2.0 related

so i'm ditching my G1 because it barely works anymore. apparently theres something wrong with the motherboard and thats why any rom i install fails after a week and makes the phone unusable (even cranogen's rom died on my phone)
anyway i'm hoping to have better luck with the mytouch and with researching lately i've seen all this stuff about the 32a and 32b
As far as rooting goes, to my understanding, i just use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556200
Then toss whatever rom i want on the SD and i'm pretty much good. That right?
From my understanding, the 32B is the T-mobile mytouch and is exactly the same as the g1. which dosn't make me too happy. But if this is true, does it have anymore space for apps or is it the same 70MB bull****?
second question. I love the hero/sense ui and i'd love to use it on the myTouch. So i know the question people hate to hear but if without having to read through hundereds of post i'd like to know which one is the most stable and has the most space for apps. By stable, i mean i can install it and use it for 2-3 months with daily use. And i have about 100Mb of apps on my G1 so i'm looking for a rom with a lot of space.
And last question, If i want to unroot and go to the official 2.0 software when it comes out (doubtful, but i may) are there any guides to go about unrooting, searched but couldn't find anything that was very clear.
Thanks in advance. now if only the phone would hurry up and get here so i can stop using my g1 that has to reboot every 3 hours.

neok44 said:
From my understanding, the 32B is the T-mobile mytouch and is exactly the same as the g1. which dosn't make me too happy. But if this is true, does it have anymore space for apps or is it the same 70MB bull****?
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The myTouch has more space for apps, over 100MB, but I don't exactly remember how much. I've had the phone for a week now and it's definitely better than the G1, performance wise.

neok44 said:
so i'm ditching my G1 because it barely works anymore. apparently theres something wrong with the motherboard and thats why any rom i install fails after a week and makes the phone unusable (even cranogen's rom died on my phone)
anyway i'm hoping to have better luck with the mytouch and with researching lately i've seen all this stuff about the 32a and 32b
As far as rooting goes, to my understanding, i just use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556200
Then toss whatever rom i want on the SD and i'm pretty much good. That right?
From my understanding, the 32B is the T-mobile mytouch and is exactly the same as the g1. which dosn't make me too happy. But if this is true, does it have anymore space for apps or is it the same 70MB bull****?
second question. I love the hero/sense ui and i'd love to use it on the myTouch. So i know the question people hate to hear but if without having to read through hundereds of post i'd like to know which one is the most stable and has the most space for apps. By stable, i mean i can install it and use it for 2-3 months with daily use. And i have about 100Mb of apps on my G1 so i'm looking for a rom with a lot of space.
And last question, If i want to unroot and go to the official 2.0 software when it comes out (doubtful, but i may) are there any guides to go about unrooting, searched but couldn't find anything that was very clear.
Thanks in advance. now if only the phone would hurry up and get here so i can stop using my g1 that has to reboot every 3 hours.
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if you are running cyanogen on your mytouch, you have about 290MB to download apps. Try running Qtek's Hero v1.8, just make sure that you have your three partitions. If you want to upgrade to Eclair (2.0) if and when it comes out, I suggest you wait until a rooted version of the ROM is released because if you just upgrade, you will be without your Superuser access and you will just have to root your phone all over again. But I have had the mytouch since it first came out and I had the G1 before then. It definitely blows the G1 out of the water in terms of performance in my opinion. Though I still use apps2sd, the extra memory was very handy before the phone was able to be rooted. I had about 100 apps on there and I still had plenty of memory left.

thanks for the replies. the 290mb is amazing. I'll probably be running one of the hero roms, and thanks for giving me a recomendation. I just love the sense UI so much.
Glad to hear about the boost in performance as well.
So i take it that the rooting process is just like i said since no one mentioned that. Really looking forward to getting this phone and finally ditching the G1

neok44 said:
thanks for the replies. the 290mb is amazing. I'll probably be running one of the hero roms, and thanks for giving me a recomendation. I just love the sense UI so much.
Glad to hear about the boost in performance as well.
So i take it that the rooting process is just like i said since no one mentioned that. Really looking forward to getting this phone and finally ditching the G1
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How to un-root a tmobile MT3G in about 4 minutes. I followed this and it worked perfectly.
http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/22/how-to-unroot-your-mytouch-3g/

thank you for that. got it bookmarked now. hopefully getting the phone today. can't wait to get started on it. looks like this will be a much better experience than the g1.

The Post here has a full guide of Rooting/Unrooting and links to a guide for Goldcards. There is another guide for rooting without goldcards but it doesnt show how to unroot or return everything back to stock. Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547133

Quick tip from a Magic user:
Don't update your phone (which will probably come with Cupcake 1.5 as stock) to Donut 1.6 using OTA, if it asks you to. Rooting Donut is a much lengthier process than rooting Cupcake, especially as you're wanting to run a Hero/SenseUI rom.
As you seemed to be hyped about memory, evil D:'s nano SenseUI is apparently a v lightweight version.

JackMagic said:
Quick tip from a Magic user:
Don't update your phone (which will probably come with Cupcake 1.5 as stock) to Donut 1.6 using OTA, if it asks you to. Rooting Donut is a much lengthier process than rooting Cupcake, especially as you're wanting to run a Hero/SenseUI rom.
As you seemed to be hyped about memory, evil D:'s nano SenseUI is apparently a v lightweight version.
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I got it used from craigs list so the guy had already updated it to 1.6.
And i saw your posts in the one-touch-root topic. any chance you can explain to me how to get it to work on 1.6?
and thanks for the recommendation for the hero rom.

Relentless Rooter didn't work for me, I used it to access fastboot and then flashed to an Engineering SPL.
As far as I know, an Engineering SPL will let you flash to any ROM using the fastboot > recovery > update.zip method as Engineering SPL allows you to use fastboot with the android sdk.
I'm not really qualified to explain to you 100% what to do, but I did this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576768
You would just cange the official ION rom with a senseUI rom, i think.

JackMagic said:
Relentless Rooter didn't work for me, I used it to access fastboot and then flashed to an Engineering SPL.
As far as I know, an Engineering SPL will let you flash to any ROM using the fastboot > recovery > update.zip method as Engineering SPL allows you to use fastboot with the android sdk.
I'm not really qualified to explain to you 100% what to do, but I did this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576768
You would just cange the official ION rom with a senseUI rom, i think.
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thanks for the link. hopefully everything will go fine for me.

[Q] Why root?

So I am really liking the aria , but I am wondering what more could I do with it if I root it. So can someone tell me the pros and cons of rooting. I hear that rooting takes some time so is it worth it. What roms can I run, and will I be disappointed when running them because they crash. Thanks

Rooting the Aria takes around 15 minutes if you do it right (use the unrevoked method).
Pros-custom ROMs, add your own mods, etc.
Cons-voids warranty (supposedly...I've heard HTC won't deny your claim)
There's probably more of each, but they don't apply unless you're into programming.
There are two main custom ROMs for the aria:
Liberated-removes ATT bloatware, enables sideloading...great ROM when I used it, won't crash (under normal circumstances) because its basically stock. Great if you like Sense.
Cyanogenmod-no Sense, adds new customizabillity, no bloatware/sideloading block/etc...also great, you might experience small problems with GPS and bluetooth (just from what I've heard) but nothing major.
You can check out the Aria Development forum here for more information.

I still haven't done it with mine, even though I had my G1 rooted and running cyanogen within a day. The difference? The G1 wasn't completely functional stock; the Aria is. As I had to go on a 5 week tour of Central Asia right after I got the Aria, all I did was unlock for a parade of strange sim cards. It falls into the "not broke, don't fix" category.
That said, now that I'm back for a little while I'll probably root and at least put liberated on it. The att apps don't take much room or cause any trouble; it's just knowing that they're there and can't be taken off...
If that makes sense to you, root.
If not, don't. The phone works great and has less, well, "idiosyncrasies," shall we say, than cyanogenmod ever did.

When you root can u get the htc stock rom if you dont want the custom ones
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sunny342 said:
When you root can u get the htc stock rom if you dont want the custom ones
Sent from my HTC Aria
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indeed you may

Just root and have fun with it. You will get all the information you need from the good folks here. Your phone will be all it can be when you release it form the restrictions of ATT and HTC.

ill do it when i have time i guess there is no harm, but right now im busy with college apps

Unrevolked only takes 5min.

I'm cured!

That last OTA was so great, that I have backed off of all the custom ROMs that were built since. None of them offer much benefit over the stock OTA and actually sacrificed stability. After figuring this out, I rolled back to the latest OTA and stopped flashing. This is the first time I have been here in like 3 weeks. And all it has done is re-affirmed my suspicion that really, the OTA will suit just fine for quite some time to come... maybe even until gingerbread.

edufur said:
That last OTA was so great, that I have backed off of all the custom ROMs that were built since. None of them offer much benefit over the stock OTA and actually sacrificed stability. After figuring this out, I rolled back to the latest OTA and stopped flashing. This is the first time I have been here in like 3 weeks. And all it has done is re-affirmed my suspicion that really, the OTA will suit just fine for quite some time to come... maybe even until gingerbread.
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+1. Though I enjoy 'modding my phone' I don't need to sacrifice stability for it. I think the only reason I would root again is for SetCPU to underclock and save battery or if some crazy app came out that Google does not plan on releasing.

htc's version of android has been reworked quite heavily to use sense, for those who dont like sense, it cant simply be stripped out and reinstalling the stock launcher leaves more problems then it solves, anyone looking for a pure android experience will jump to an asop rom as fast as possible, htc has done a great job staying on top of their phones for once but are still lagging behind xda, its the whole inch and a mile thing

edufur said:
That last OTA was so great, that I have backed off of all the custom ROMs that were built since. None of them offer much benefit over the stock OTA and actually sacrificed stability. After figuring this out, I rolled back to the latest OTA and stopped flashing. This is the first time I have been here in like 3 weeks. And all it has done is re-affirmed my suspicion that really, the OTA will suit just fine for quite some time to come... maybe even until gingerbread.
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+1 I never even bothered rooting after upgrading from the Hero to the Evo on Oct. 1st. My Hero was rooted and saw its share of custom roms but I'm quite happy with stock Froyo and the newest update.
I thought I would never go back to Sense after running CM6 on my Hero and some other aosp roms but I'm back to stock with the Evo and love it. Plus my wimax works which I do use.
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om4 said:
htc's version of android has been reworked quite heavily to use sense, for those who dont like sense, it cant simply be stripped out and reinstalling the stock launcher leaves more problems then it solves, anyone looking for a pure android experience will jump to an asop rom as fast as possible, htc has done a great job staying on top of their phones for once but are still lagging behind xda, its the whole inch and a mile thing
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That's strange, I'm running a stock rooted rom with sense removed and have not experienced any force closes... Although, I must admit I feel at times like my battery drains fast and I can't help but feel like its the excess htc processes draining....
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I've been running virus Rom with no issues and one of kings kernels, I do like to use the free teathering and extra battery life
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I feel like the stock root is good. I am able to get rid of the Sprint software with root. But I like to know I am able to test new roms.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G. EVOke (v.) - Summon into action or bring into existence, often as if by magic.

I like the latest Sprint OTA...thanks Sprint and HTC!
That said, my wife was not rooted and started complaining because my rooted phone operated much smoother/faster than hers. BTW, even rooted, she uses ADW and no Sense.
So I ended up rooting my wife and oh boy is she happy now.

I still like playing around with roms but I've limited myself to two: MIUI (still not quite there for me but it's a beautiful rom) and Vaelpak.

firemedic1343 said:
So I ended up rooting my wife and oh boy is she happy now.
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Ha, awesome!

HTC MT4G

Don't buy one.......
I just purchased one at a really reasonable price (new) , liked the fact that it has a crap load of ram, flash, good gps, etc etc. I got it today and im putting it up for sale. you have to be developer to root the thing i have tried for about 4 hours straight. When i first rooted my vibrant it took me 15 minutes to go from stock eclair to froyo and if i soft brick it i can odin. You cant do that with the myTouch, if you brick your f'd.
Another thing to note is that when i look at my vibrants beautiful screen and then look at MT4g's screen i get really disappointed, i thought i was ready to jump ship but im not, ill wait for the sgs 2 if it comes to t-mobile. Anyhow the Vibrant 3g is ftw. Samsung has a bad reputation for software updates, but with a community like we have on XDA, im sticking with it for awhile.
Thank you Devs (team whiskey, EDT, and of course Eugene)

Funny how you mention Samsung has bad software update reputations. They just released the i9000 gingerbread and source code or 2 days later. They basically beat all the HTC devices to Gingerbread, including the Desire which released 2 or 3 months earlier than the Galaxy S.

XPLANE9 said:
Funny how you mention Samsung has bad software update reputations. They just released the i9000 gingerbread and source code or 2 days later. They basically beat all the HTC devices to Gingerbread, including the Desire which released 2 or 3 months earlier than the Galaxy S.
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I think people just have a sour taste in their mouths after the whole fiasco with Samsung saying they were going to upgrade the phones, and it took them FOREVER to do it.

yeah i forgot to mention that lol
I honestly think its the carriers f'ing it up.

cundiffr said:
Don't buy one.......
I just purchased one at a really reasonable price (new) , liked the fact that it has a crap load of ram, flash, good gps, etc etc. I got it today and im putting it up for sale. you have to be developer to root the thing i have tried for about 4 hours straight. When i first rooted my vibrant it took me 15 minutes to go from stock eclair to froyo and if i soft brick it i can odin. You cant do that with the myTouch, if you brick your f'd.
Another thing to note is that when i look at my vibrants beautiful screen and then look at MT4g's screen i get really disappointed, i thought i was ready to jump ship but im not, ill wait for the sgs 2 if it comes to t-mobile. Anyhow the Vibrant 3g is ftw. Samsung has a bad reputation for software updates, but with a community like we have on XDA, im sticking with it for awhile.
Thank you Devs (team whiskey, EDT, and of course Eugene)
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No offense, if you think you need to be a developer to root a mytouch 4g thats sad. My mytouch took 10 including looking at instructions.
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The rooting part was probably stupid (no offense) it's easy to root almost all Android phones, and the others I agree, one of my friends flashed a rom on his mt4g and it would not turn on and he asked me because i've done it many times and fixed it, i told him it wasn't possible because it just wasn't...
@Samsung, I never said they sucked or their rep. went down. I always trusted Samsung, because besides my phone, my Blu-Ray gets updated every month, and my other Samsung Devices are always getting updates, major or minor.
Carriers are the ones f'ing it up for everyone.
FUUUU TMOBILE!

i helped my buddy root his mt4g about a week ago and it is kind of a pain, especially compared to the vibrant. partially cause you have to temp root it, then use the gfree, and my friend's mt4g couldn't use the newer gfree and had to use the .02.
but now he's happily on cm7.

rockstarar said:
No offense, if you think you need to be a developer to root a mytouch 4g, you shouldn't be rooting phones.
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fixed.
rooting the mt4g is easier than rooting a vibrant. took all of 2 minutes to download the app for it and click the root button. the same visionary app that temp roots also perm roots...

But installing clockwork for it has been a pain for me. Think I have to flash an earlier rom or something.

buru898 said:
But installing clockwork for it has been a pain for me. Think I have to flash an earlier rom or something.
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what's so painful about it?
1. install rom manager
2. flash clockworkrecovery 3.0.0.5
3. download the modded version of clockworkrecovery (3.0.0.6) from the mt4g Bible
4. flash the modded versions zip in clockworkrecovery.
simple.

regP said:
what's so painful about it?
1. install rom manager
2. flash clockworkrecovery 3.0.0.5
3. download the modded version of clockworkrecovery (3.0.0.6) from the mt4g Bible
4. flash the modded versions zip in clockworkrecovery.
simple.
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That is simple and if it is considered hard I feel bad for anyone that can't do that, if you wanted hard rooting then try the first method on a MyTouch Slide, that was a bit of a nightmare.

I rooted my wife's MT4g, it took a few tries but i got it done, watching the tutorial at theunlockr.com
A side note, The Mtg4 is a bit faster than my Vibrant but the wifi signal is horrible compared to my phone. Also my web pages load way faster on Wifi both next to my router. All in all good phone but I like my phone tons better.

regP said:
fixed.
rooting the mt4g is easier than rooting a vibrant. took all of 2 minutes to download the app for it and click the root button. the same visionary app that temp roots also perm roots...
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hmmm. we followed the guide in the cm wiki and it was considerably more difficult than downloading an app....

funeralthirst said:
hmmm. we followed the guide in the cm wiki and it was considerably more difficult than downloading an app....
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well visionary+ is in the Bible. downloaded it and hit permroot. doesn't get any easier than that...

[Q] Recomendations for flashing brand new MyTouch 4g?

I have used Nexus phones for the longest time but as I got a tablet (first Galaxy Tab and now I have a 10.1 coming) I find myself using the smart part of the smart phone very little. That said, my thinking is I am sitting on several hundred bucks I do not really use in my Nexus S so I sold it on E-Bay and took advantage of a T-Mobile deal that got me the MyTouch 3G for free (well, for extra $10/mo for contract cost).
So now I am back to a phone with Android hacked up by carriers and even though I do not use it as I once did there are several very annoying things (apps I cannot uninstall, MyFavs instead of starred in Android, and other stupid carrier crap). Anyways, i was thinking of just going with Cyanogen to try to get back to Android my way, or at least not T-Mobile's way. Any suggestions on if Cyanogen is the right MOD for this phone - all I really want is something as close to vanilla Android as possible with the least hassle possible. Also, I know there are many methods for flashing ROMs - recommendation on the easiest and most reliable?
Thanks in advance for the info.

SWBgHz said:
I have used Nexus phones for the longest time but as I got a tablet (first Galaxy Tab and now I have a 10.1 coming) I find myself using the smart part of the smart phone very little. That said, my thinking is I am sitting on several hundred bucks I do not really use in my Nexus S so I sold it on E-Bay and took advantage of a T-Mobile deal that got me the MyTouch 3G for free (well, for extra $10/mo for contract cost).
So now I am back to a phone with Android hacked up by carriers and even though I do not use it as I once did there are several very annoying things (apps I cannot uninstall, MyFavs instead of starred in Android, and other stupid carrier crap). Anyways, i was thinking of just going with Cyanogen to try to get back to Android my way, or at least not T-Mobile's way. Any suggestions on if Cyanogen is the right MOD for this phone - all I really want is something as close to vanilla Android as possible with the least hassle possible. Also, I know there are many methods for flashing ROMs - recommendation on the easiest and most reliable?
Thanks in advance for the info.
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Cyanogen is pretty good and bloat free if you like sense I would go with virtuous unity a near perfect rom.
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SWBgHz said:
Also, I know there are many methods for flashing ROMs - recommendation on the easiest and most reliable?
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Methods for flashing ROMs? The only way to flash anything is in recovery mode. You have to root your phone and install ClockworkMod recovery, then you'll be able to install ROMs.
Once that's done, I would try CyanogenMod or RoyalGinger, since you want the plain Android UI.

SWBgHz said:
I have used Nexus phones for the longest time but as I got a tablet (first Galaxy Tab and now I have a 10.1 coming) I find myself using the smart part of the smart phone very little. That said, my thinking is I am sitting on several hundred bucks I do not really use in my Nexus S so I sold it on E-Bay and took advantage of a T-Mobile deal that got me the MyTouch 3G for free (well, for extra $10/mo for contract cost).
So now I am back to a phone with Android hacked up by carriers and even though I do not use it as I once did there are several very annoying things (apps I cannot uninstall, MyFavs instead of starred in Android, and other stupid carrier crap). Anyways, i was thinking of just going with Cyanogen to try to get back to Android my way, or at least not T-Mobile's way. Any suggestions on if Cyanogen is the right MOD for this phone - all I really want is something as close to vanilla Android as possible with the least hassle possible. Also, I know there are many methods for flashing ROMs - recommendation on the easiest and most reliable?
Thanks in advance for the info.
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you are aware that this is the MyTouch4G department. They are two completely different phones. Rooted two totally different ways.
1) if you are still on Android 1.5/1.6 you need to download/install/run Universal Nandroot. It will root your phone. Then download Clockwork ROM Manager and flash the recovery image and flash away. CM stopped development @ CM6. But due to RAM requirements for that phone and 2.1 you'll need to install and run SWAPPER2. It's a good app. and you'll be good to go.
2) if you are on the 2.1 updated version. you should be able to download Super One Click Rooter and do it that way. then download CWRM and flash the recovery image. If that still falls short you can always visit the MyTouch3G section of this forum, and you should find something there.

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you are aware that this is the MyTouch4G department. They are two completely different phones. Rooted two totally different ways.
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I saw that too, but the thread title says 4G, so I assumed it was a typo. Who knows with some people though...

TeeJay3800 said:
I saw that too, but the thread title says 4G, so I assumed it was a typo. Who knows with some people though...
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LQTMS
you hit the nail on head. I know they are still selling the Glacier, but they are giving away the Magic. So when i saw free i assumed the Magic and the 10 bucks is for the data pack.

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LQTMS
you hit the nail on head. I know they are still selling the Glacier, but they are giving away the Magic. So when i saw free i assumed the Magic and the 10 bucks is for the data pack.
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Haha yeah, very possible.

SWBgHz said:
I have used Nexus phones for the longest time but as I got a tablet (first Galaxy Tab and now I have a 10.1 coming) I find myself using the smart part of the smart phone very little. That said, my thinking is I am sitting on several hundred bucks I do not really use in my Nexus S so I sold it on E-Bay and took advantage of a T-Mobile deal that got me the MyTouch 3G for free (well, for extra $10/mo for contract cost).
So now I am back to a phone with Android hacked up by carriers and even though I do not use it as I once did there are several very annoying things (apps I cannot uninstall, MyFavs instead of starred in Android, and other stupid carrier crap). Anyways, i was thinking of just going with Cyanogen to try to get back to Android my way, or at least not T-Mobile's way. Any suggestions on if Cyanogen is the right MOD for this phone - all I really want is something as close to vanilla Android as possible with the least hassle possible. Also, I know there are many methods for flashing ROMs - recommendation on the easiest and most reliable?
Thanks in advance for the info.
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i used the method found on theunlockr.com it worked first try and ive never rooted a phone before and have no prior knowledge about how to do it. i used a few roms. iced glacier first then a few others but have stuck with Faux's AOSP rom. its been by far the most stable and the best performing. i get the best benchmarks as well as the best battery life. your best bet is to read read and read some more. then when you think you've read enough, read a whole s**t ton more.

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you are aware that this is the MyTouch4G department. They are two completely different phones. Rooted two totally different ways.
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Typo on my part - I have myTouch 4g.
I looked at Virtuous Unity and it seems nice and clean - anyone have any warnings about that ROM?

So I got it rooted easy enough and loaded Cyanogen 7. Going to load up Virtuous Unity now that I got the process down and see how that one looks. Thanks for the info - it is much easier now than it was a few years back when I last bothered with customer ROMs.

All the sense roms have to much bloat. Try cm7 or fauxs AOSP.
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Absolute easiest and safest way
You don't have to flash a custom ROM to get rid of the bloatware on a MT4G and beat it back to the simplicity of a Nexus One (almost). Because the MT4G is still on 2.2.1, Visionary will still work to temproot and then you can use Titanium Pro to "freeze" the bloatware you don't want to see. Once you've frozen the apps they stay frozen whether you temproot again or not. If you want to use some apps that require rooting though, such as Quickboot, you can set Visionary to temproot whenever you boot. Visionary r11 seems to work better than r14 on the MT4G.
Using the above simple and reversible method, plus a custom launcher, I've got the Apps drawer and home screens to look pretty much as they do on my Nexus One on 2.2.1. You are stuck with the HTC idiotic phone screen ("faves") and the useless Genius button but you get in return a front facing camera and 4G speed.
Jeffrey

You can flash Virtuous Unity. It's an excellent ROM. And MT4G is powerful enough to run anything, and not resort to AOSP-style ROMs.