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[Q] Should I buy Defy+, considering no downgrade?

Hey all, well I wanna buy defy+ but have read all over the places that defy+ can't be downgraded. What if I installed ICS/CM9, will be be able to get back to normal sbf?
Am not noob, but confused, also tell me more things that I must know
Thanks in advance

supersurfer88 said:
Hey all, well I wanna buy defy+ but have read all over the places that defy+ can't be downgraded. What if I installed ICS/CM9, will be be able to get back to normal sbf?
Am not noob, but confused, also tell me more things that I must know
Thanks in advance
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Yes u can go stock from ica
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can you link me to the thread, or some procedures. How can I get back to the stock ?
thanks

If you install ice cream sandwich, there won't be any troubles because it's not an actual upgrade (in the sense that only /system dir and the kernel will change). Thus, you just have to flash the right sbf in order to go back to defy+ official android build.
Use RSD Lite to flash a sbf.
SBF list: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
RSD Lite: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1100585

Direct Answer: You can go ahead and buy the Defy+.
You should be able to use Gingerbread with absolutely no problems. And there is no point in downgrading to Froyo.
And once, ICS is out, you may work with either Gingerbread or ICS.
PS: Motorola just released the entire source code for Gingerbread.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/motodefyplus.motorola/files/DefyPlusGC/4.5.2-109_DHT-22/

prasannavl said:
And once, ICS is out, you may work with either Gingerbread or ICS.
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IF I update to ICS stable, will I be able to get back to GB SBF if I don't like ICS?

[Q] 2.3.4 rom help

hi can anyone help,
i bought a defy sometime ago and the person who sold it flashed the 2.3.4 stock rom from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127085
so of corse the defy is green lense so there for camera doesnt work.
is there anyway that i can 1: get camera to work and/or 2: downgrade
ive searched and only found some chinese rom but it has dead links and im a little rusty with nandroid backups etc
can someone guied me
p.s im on cm7.1 if that make any diffrance
thanks folks.

I think 2.3.4 can be downgradable to froyo, am i not right?
I have a green lens defy with stock 2.2 froyo, and for cm7, cm9 and miui, the camera works, so I guess that who sold it to you have it upgraded, don't know why, :S
try flashing froyo, then flash cm7 over it
I'm not sure if will work, but why don't give it a shot
tell me if it worked
Good Luck

No he done full gb 2.3.4 and it says its not downgradeable. I've tryed to flash other sbf's but none work.
Thanks for reply mate.
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jonezy8873 said:
No he done full gb 2.3.4 and it says its not downgradeable. I've tryed to flash other sbf's but none work.
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it was true back then that it wasn't downgradable. but lucky you the situation has changed. you can now downgrade your phone and install custom roms. there are 2 methods available since your rom is only on cg or bl 5:
1) read the first post of this thread completely as all newbies should:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
and in there under common problems/questions you'll find your first solution. this method would preserve your phone to bl5 but it's a bit longer than method 2.
2) method 2 will upgrade your phone to bl6 but it's much easier. so if you don't have any problem with that, use this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731&highlight=bl6

That's great thanks.
Just what I was looking for
Is this the same method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15341774&postcount=8
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jonezy8873 said:
Is this the same method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15341774&postcount=8
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yes. that is method 1.

balls..... i cant get anything to work
dead links....
cant understand what there on about.....
grrrrrrrrr

jh20 said:
yes. that is method 1.
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its got dead links and when i try to flash the first rom it stops and says fail

jonezy8873 said:
hi can anyone help,
i bought a defy sometime ago and the person who sold it flashed the 2.3.4 stock rom from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127085
so of corse the defy is green lense so there for camera doesnt work.
is there anyway that i can 1: get camera to work and/or 2: downgrade
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Try flashing the full SBF from here - I know the link works because I downloaded it myself a couple of hours ago. It's also rootable using the Droid 3 easy rooting tool linked in that thread. It says in the thread that the green lens camera can be got to work using Greenbreadmod.
If that SBF + Greenbreadmod gets your phone working again then I'd try MS2Ginger or CM7 on it (if CM7 will support the green lens camera, not sure). Take a nandroid backup first - install 2ndInitDefy to get CWM on the phone. MS2Ginger is based on Gingerbread but with some nice enhancements eg 1% battery step, power menu, 720p playback, panorama mode etc. I had the 2.1 version of MS2Ginger on my green-lensed Defy for many months and it was rock solid. I've not tried CM7 but lots of people like it.

ok im downloading it now
so just flash this with rsdlite is that correct.
i have downloaded greenbread 1.1 what do i do with that? do i unzip it on pc or move whole file to clockworkmod backup?

jonezy8873 said:
i have downloaded greenbread 1.1 what do i do with that? do i unzip it on pc or move whole file to clockworkmod backup?
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From the Greenbreadmod thread:
Installation:
Install official GingerBread via nandroid + fixed sbf
Install 2nd-init recovery 0.6.1 or later
Install zip from recovery
RTFM

lol i have no idea what any of that means RTFM? haha
im new at all this
i cant flash that rom anyway it gets to creating img or something like that then says executing then says fail???
ive got all moto drivers installed and running as administrator?
just want a stock rom that camera works.
fed up of cm7 keeps crashing.
tries all the others to like miuiandroid and some others.
starting to miss my iphone :-/

jonezy8873 said:
i cant flash that rom anyway it gets to creating img or something like that then says executing then says fail
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What version of RSD Lite are you using?

5.2 I think
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I used 5.6 to flash that sbf on my phone. Google around, you'll find it online.

Ok I will have a look in a while
Cheers pal
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not even 5.6 works. it gets so far says fail reboots my phone? f**kin mad. ive flashed my old defy like 20 times before and allways worked.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140839, by walter79, ur cam will work i and i used this rom its 100% work on my red lense defy plus

1) Is your phone actually working at the moment ie can you power it up and get to the home screen?
2) When flashing, do you power it up in to the bootloader? This involves holding vol+ as you press and release the power button.
I'm just wondering whether you might have too little battery to flash. The phone doesn't charge the battery in bootloader mode so repeated flashing can flatten the battery. I believe that bootloader mode will display something like "Battery low - cannot program" if that is the case. Possible fixes are: (1) The McGyver hack, (2) charge the battery in a cheap external charger eg like this one.

veeranna said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140839, by walter79, ur cam will work i and i used this rom its 100% work on my red lense defy plus
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I've got green lense mate that what the problem is. I have the 2.3.4 gingerbread rom that camera (green) soesnt work.
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can't Root my Defy+ & more questions.

Hi there,
After installing CM 7.1 i wanted to go back to my stock firmware
so i flashed the SBF : DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_BLUR_SIGN_USADEFYEMARAB1B8RTDE004.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTDACH_P019_A022_M002_Service1FF.sbf
with RDLite.
After this i wanted to ROOT my defy with Super1click.. it always worked...
until now
I bought my DEFY+ in the Netherlands unlocked..
It seemes the SBF isn't the same as I bought. To unlock i need to Swipe
that wasn't on the original one...
So what SBF do i need then ?
Or am I ****ed after flashing my Defy ?

Is that some of the latest 2.3.6 sbf's? They aren't rootable as of yet :-/
You aren't fu*ked But, maybe you are stuck If it is one of the latest 2.3.6, then it's version 7 signed, too. That means you can't flash anything older now. I think I have seen some version 7 signed Froyo, but not sure if it was tested... I do use the version 6 Froyo, though, on my DEFY+...

So, rooting isnt possible too ?

Rooting is not possibly yet..
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robster47 said:
So, rooting isnt possible too ?
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Try Unlockroot

cretu22 said:
Try Unlockroot
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Doesn't work either :*(

Try DoomLord v4 for rooting, it's ok with 4.5.1-134_DFP-139

It wont work mate your stuffed
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niksy+ said:
Is that some of the latest 2.3.6 sbf's? They aren't rootable as of yet :-/
You aren't fu*ked But, maybe you are stuck If it is one of the latest 2.3.6, then it's version 7 signed, too. That means you can't flash anything older now. I think I have seen some version 7 signed Froyo, but not sure if it was tested... I do use the version 6 Froyo, though, on my DEFY+...
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Agreed
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DoomLord v4 doesn't work vor CG7.
But about the Version 7 Froyo, should that be rootable just because its 2.2?
Can anybody confirm that?

Unfortunately there isn't any working tool atm and latest Froyo isn't on BL7 but BL6 so we're stuck with stock firmware. I hope not too long.
Defy Plus 4.5.1-134 DFP-231 CEE

@ Chamelleon
You flashed the same ROM.
I got error messages all the time, think its the motorola message service or so.
The phone software isn;t working smoothly like the original one ?

Accidentally flashed full sbf

So here it is, I accidentally picked the chinese JDGC_2.13.0 while flashing sbf and now my defy is a ME525 when I look into the phone information.
That sbf does not seem to be downgradable, as I only get a black screen after flashing any other sbf I used before, meaning the stock froyo or the nordic.
I seriously don't know what to do now. Is there something I can do to downgrade or make my phone a MB525 again?

I hate to break this to you,but i think you are screwed.If it is under warranty,give it to your service centre and act as if you know nothing.That is the best advice i can give you.Try to ask senior members about this and see if there is a way out of this.

you flashed a bl3 rom and now you cant downgrade to any froyo rom you flash this china rom and you need to have a froyo nanndroid buckap and an fixed sbf

tanarez said:
So here it is, I accidentally picked the chinese JDGC_2.13.0 while flashing sbf and now my defy is a ME525 when I look into the phone information.
That sbf does not seem to be downgradable, as I only get a black screen after flashing any other sbf I used before, meaning the stock froyo or the nordic.
I seriously don't know what to do now. Is there something I can do to downgrade or make my phone a MB525 again?
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Upgrade to a non chinese BL4 Froyo. Or if you wish you may update to a GB BL6!! However then your phone will become MB526(Defy+) and you won't be able to downgrade to Froyo again!
You can find them here or go to dev section of XDA...
You may also need this Defy Image tools Use them to check the BL version... (smgver.exe)

pranks1989 said:
Upgrade to a non chinese BL4 Froyo. Or if you wish you may update to a GB BL6!! However then your phone will become MB526(Defy+) and you won't be able to downgrade to Froyo again!
You can find them here or go to dev section of XDA...
You may also need this Defy Image tools
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He would be able to downgrade to Froyo. There is a Chinese BL6 Froyo sbf available in the forums.

niksy+ said:
He would be able to downgrade to Froyo. There is a Chinese BL6 Froyo sbf available in the forums.
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Ya I tried that once when i wanted to try the CM9 nightly for Defy.. But its a chinese and have the potential to fry your LED!!!

[Q] Motorola Milestone x root- help please

Hey guys. I'm currently using a Motorola milestone x (debranded droid x) on a small CDMA network called Appalachian wireless. Its been a decent phone, but its a little outdated and as a result it's been having some performance anxiety as of late- namely a lack of available ram. I would love to be able to root the phone and help alleviate some of these issues, as well as adding an upgraded custom rom. Here are my phone specs:
SYSTEM VERSION: 4.5.604.MB809.ACG.en.US
ANDROID VERSION: 2.3.5
KERNEL VERSION: 2.6.32.9-geadffa3
[email protected]#1
BUILD NUMBER: 4.5.1_57_MX2-34
ERI VERSION: 5
PRL VERSION: 10032
I'm Relatively new into the smartphone scene, and this is my first dive into the world of rooting, so please take nothing for granted. A step by step tutorial is what I need, and I haven't found one of those for the milestone x, so I figured I'd sign up and all for help. Tracks in advance for any help you can provide me.

I can't give you a step-by-step, but since you are already on system version .604, all you have to do it use the Zergrush v4 method (which can be found via a Google search).
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infazzdar said:
I can't give you a step-by-step, but since you are already on system version .604, all you have to do it use the Zergrush v4 method (which can be found via a Google search).
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Cool.. Is this zergrush a superoneclick root? And it won't disrupt my 3G coverage or anything? I read online where some users on the small regional carriers lost they're data coverage after rooting... Also, I read somewhere about how people who were rooting bricked their phone because of tripping some efuse that motorola had added through the 2.3.5 OTA update. This won't be an issue either?

So I was researching that zergrush method, and it talking about using an nTelos sbf file. Woul d I have to flash this sbf to root, and of so would it negatively affect my phone?
Sorry if this is a dumb question. Like I said, I'm totally new at this.

hayescooper19 said:
So I was researching that zergrush method, and it talking about using an nTelos sbf file. Woul d I have to flash this sbf to root, and of so would it negatively affect my phone?
Sorry if this is a dumb question. Like I said, I'm totally new at this.
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You wont have to flash any SBF files. Users not on .604 must flash the SBF file; however, since you are already on .604 you do not.
So just root with zergrush =D
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infazzdar said:
You wont have to flash any SBF files. Users not on .604 must flash the SBF file; however, since you are already on .604 you do not.
So just root with zergrush =D
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Awesome!! Thanks a lot!!
Any suggestions on a custom rom?

I was stuck on 621 and sbf'd to 604 and I find that the best compatible rom is vortex rc1 because of its battery life and fastness also if your going to get any ROM for 604 you should get it from rootzwiki there's a thread that has multiple 604 compatible roms because not all ROM's are compatible
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Yogo123 said:
I was stuck on 621 and sbf'd to 604 and I find that the best compatible rom is vortex rc1 because of its battery life and fastness also if your going to get any ROM for 604 you should get it from rootzwiki there's a thread that has multiple 604 compatible roms because not all ROM's are compatible
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Thanks for the help! I'll definitely check it out!!

Yogo123 said:
I was stuck on 621 and sbf'd to 604 and I find that the best compatible rom is vortex rc1 because of its battery life and fastness also if your going to get any ROM for 604 you should get it from rootzwiki there's a thread that has multiple 604 compatible roms because not all ROM's are compatible
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could you give me a link to that rom thread. I've been looking around and can't find it.

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/21337-roms-multi-rom-thread-blur-based-roms-for-those-on-621604/
These should work
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Yogo123 said:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/21337-roms-multi-rom-thread-blur-based-roms-for-those-on-621604/
These should work
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Thanks! I actually found it last night after doing a little more digging. Lol... At this point I'm just trying to find a way past this stupid pop up ad blocking the download screen on mediafire. First ad I've ever seen that you can't x out... Oh well. Thanks again. As for installing this rom, can I just do it from bootstrap/cwm recovery?

And is vortex a 2nd-init rom that I would have to sbf to get back from? Because I currently have no sbf available from my carrier.

Yea just bootstrap install zip from SD and then factory reset/clear cache
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how can i sbf 604 from 621?????
Yogo123 said:
I was stuck on 621 and sbf'd to 604 and I find that the best compatible rom is vortex rc1 because of its battery life and fastness also if your going to get any ROM for 604 you should get it from rootzwiki there's a thread that has multiple 604 compatible roms because not all ROM's are compatible
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can you tell me how you sbfd to 604 ....I am stuck on 621 and I need the least complicated tutorial possible...can u share with me how you did this ...any links??? i would really appreciate it!!!!

sluggerhenry said:
can you tell me how you sbfd to 604 ....I am stuck on 621 and I need the least complicated tutorial possible...can u share with me how you did this ...any links??? i would really appreciate it!!!!
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You can follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800047
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Is this the MB809 Milestone X?