Hey all, well I wanna buy defy+ but have read all over the places that defy+ can't be downgraded. What if I installed ICS/CM9, will be be able to get back to normal sbf?
Am not noob, but confused, also tell me more things that I must know
Thanks in advance
supersurfer88 said:
Hey all, well I wanna buy defy+ but have read all over the places that defy+ can't be downgraded. What if I installed ICS/CM9, will be be able to get back to normal sbf?
Am not noob, but confused, also tell me more things that I must know
Thanks in advance
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Yes u can go stock from ica
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can you link me to the thread, or some procedures. How can I get back to the stock ?
thanks
If you install ice cream sandwich, there won't be any troubles because it's not an actual upgrade (in the sense that only /system dir and the kernel will change). Thus, you just have to flash the right sbf in order to go back to defy+ official android build.
Use RSD Lite to flash a sbf.
SBF list: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
RSD Lite: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1100585
Direct Answer: You can go ahead and buy the Defy+.
You should be able to use Gingerbread with absolutely no problems. And there is no point in downgrading to Froyo.
And once, ICS is out, you may work with either Gingerbread or ICS.
PS: Motorola just released the entire source code for Gingerbread.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/motodefyplus.motorola/files/DefyPlusGC/4.5.2-109_DHT-22/
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And once, ICS is out, you may work with either Gingerbread or ICS.
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IF I update to ICS stable, will I be able to get back to GB SBF if I don't like ICS?
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So here it is, I accidentally picked the chinese JDGC_2.13.0 while flashing sbf and now my defy is a ME525 when I look into the phone information.
That sbf does not seem to be downgradable, as I only get a black screen after flashing any other sbf I used before, meaning the stock froyo or the nordic.
I seriously don't know what to do now. Is there something I can do to downgrade or make my phone a MB525 again?
I hate to break this to you,but i think you are screwed.If it is under warranty,give it to your service centre and act as if you know nothing.That is the best advice i can give you.Try to ask senior members about this and see if there is a way out of this.
you flashed a bl3 rom and now you cant downgrade to any froyo rom you flash this china rom and you need to have a froyo nanndroid buckap and an fixed sbf
tanarez said:
So here it is, I accidentally picked the chinese JDGC_2.13.0 while flashing sbf and now my defy is a ME525 when I look into the phone information.
That sbf does not seem to be downgradable, as I only get a black screen after flashing any other sbf I used before, meaning the stock froyo or the nordic.
I seriously don't know what to do now. Is there something I can do to downgrade or make my phone a MB525 again?
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Upgrade to a non chinese BL4 Froyo. Or if you wish you may update to a GB BL6!! However then your phone will become MB526(Defy+) and you won't be able to downgrade to Froyo again!
You can find them here or go to dev section of XDA...
You may also need this Defy Image tools Use them to check the BL version... (smgver.exe)
pranks1989 said:
Upgrade to a non chinese BL4 Froyo. Or if you wish you may update to a GB BL6!! However then your phone will become MB526(Defy+) and you won't be able to downgrade to Froyo again!
You can find them here or go to dev section of XDA...
You may also need this Defy Image tools
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He would be able to downgrade to Froyo. There is a Chinese BL6 Froyo sbf available in the forums.
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He would be able to downgrade to Froyo. There is a Chinese BL6 Froyo sbf available in the forums.
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Ya I tried that once when i wanted to try the CM9 nightly for Defy.. But its a chinese and have the potential to fry your LED!!!
I am preparing to move my defy to CM7.2 (or any custom rom) and I am currently stuck on Android 2.1.
I've read and researched everything about flashing and backup and what not... What I understand is:
1. If I flash a full SBF of a Android 2.2.x ROM, I won't be able to downgrade (I don't really need to as I am out of warranty anyways)
2. If I flash a FIXED SBF of 2.2.x or 2.3.x, I will need to also flash a nandroid backup. The problem is that I cannot find a pair of these to download (given all of the mediafire/etc links are now dead).
3. I really need a 2.3.x kernel to go to CM7 or CM9, most (all?) of these won't let me downgrade back to 2.2 (which if fine provided the 2.3.x stock rom I flash is rootable and will let me do wifi tethering).
My defy is green lens US Tmobile with Blur. I would probably be totally happy with a non-blur 2.2 or better rom. My motivation for this is that I need some apps that are 2.2+ :/
Thanks in advance for any help or guidance!!!
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I am preparing to move my defy to CM7.2 (or any custom rom) and I am currently stuck on Android 2.1.
I've read and researched everything about flashing and backup and what not... What I understand is:
1. If I flash a full SBF of a Android 2.2.x ROM, I won't be able to downgrade (I don't really need to as I am out of warranty anyways)
2. If I flash a FIXED SBF of 2.2.x or 2.3.x, I will need to also flash a nandroid backup. The problem is that I cannot find a pair of these to download (given all of the mediafire/etc links are now dead).
3. I really need a 2.3.x kernel to go to CM7 or CM9, most (all?) of these won't let me downgrade back to 2.2 (which if fine provided the 2.3.x stock rom I flash is rootable and will let me do wifi tethering).
My defy is green lens US Tmobile with Blur. I would probably be totally happy with a non-blur 2.2 or better rom. My motivation for this is that I need some apps that are 2.2+ :/
Thanks in advance for any help or guidance!!!
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Yep what you told is pretty much correct! Just make sure you flash the correct SBFs (since it is greenlens).. And you may request to whoever uploaded to reupload the files.
For point 3.) CM7 and CM9 are available for Froyo kernel too.(And those are more frequently updated) So you can do a 2.2 SBF flash.
Moreover should you flash a fixed SBF you can always downgrade...
Happy flashing
you are awesome at answering my questions again! thanks =)
I now remember that CM7 + 9 can work with the froyo kernel, is there any reason to go to GB? I want to take this step by step... first is to get a working 2.2 version (deblured, since I am out of the country and had problems getting blur to reregister last time).
is there really any reason to go back to 2.1 if I go to 2.2?
i'll go beg on the ROMS thread to see if I can get one. Thanks!
Since you have a green lens (SOC) you should stay on the Froyo kernel. Do not go with the Gingerbread kernel because you won't be able to use your camera (except for the Greenbread mod, if I'm not mistaken, but you should stay away from it since it's a fix for a problem not an improvement).
I don't see any reason to go back to 2.1, especially because 2.2 was officially released and is covered by warranty. Since using ICS I won't even go back to 2.3 .
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KevinAndEarth.com said:
you are awesome at answering my questions again! thanks =)
I now remember that CM7 + 9 can work with the froyo kernel, is there any reason to go to GB? I want to take this step by step... first is to get a working 2.2 version (deblured, since I am out of the country and had problems getting blur to reregister last time).
is there really any reason to go back to 2.1 if I go to 2.2?
i'll go beg on the ROMS thread to see if I can get one. Thanks!
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Welcome Good to know I could be of help..
vap_66 said:
Since you have a green lens (SOC) you should stay on the Froyo kernel. Do not go with the Gingerbread kernel because you won't be able to use your camera (except for the Greenbread mod, if I'm not mistaken, but you should stay away from it since it's a fix for a problem not an improvement).
I don't see any reason to go back to 2.1, especially because 2.2 was officially released and is covered by warranty. Since using ICS I won't even go back to 2.3 .
Trimis de pe Defy CM9
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Ya even I feel the same! Since it is green lens better not go to GB. What is the need when you have so many option of ROMs (just get an awesome CM7 nightly or CM9!)..
So now all I need to do is find a good deblured android 2.2 SBF =)
Defy+ users from India here?
could you tell me which version of GB your phone came with and are there any updates?
Mine came with 2.3.4 and I've rooted it so i dunno if there are updates...help.
BreakShadow said:
Defy+ users from India here?
could you tell me which version of GB your phone came with and are there any updates?
Mine came with 2.3.4 and I've rooted it so i dunno if there are updates...help.
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Hi,
My phone came with the same version. It has DFP-189 SBF. You can update it to 2.3.6 by a full SBF flash. If you r phone is fully stock(no root etc.) then you can do that by simply choosing the correct SBF(MB526.AsiaRetail.**.DFP-1321) and flashing it and you will be updated to 2.3.6. There is one another updated SBF (MB526.AsiaRetail.**.DFP231) which I currently have and has different lockscreen and caller UI. You can find all the SBF here . Try by just flashing the SBF and you will be updated and your data will be still there. However should you face any prob you will need to do a data wipe from stockrecovery
But before doing any of that you should know:
1.) The SBF with DFP-1321 has BL6(bootloader version) and thus you won't be able to use any CM made for Defy,will have to use CM builds for Defy+.
2.) The SBF with DFP-231 has BL7 and thus cannot be downgraded to any of the SBFs!! And most imp: You can't root it! Why am I using it? Because phone was in service center and they flashed this SBF!!! :'(
need sbf
anyone can provide me with DFP-891 asia retail sbf
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why do you need the 891 version?
Install 1321
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386942
its my stock version,so need it before i start trying custom rom
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jackajay said:
its my stock version,so need it before i start trying custom rom
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You can without any harm flash DFP-1321 as well!! Since that also is an official release and can be used to go back to stock
I dont want go for 2.3.6 since i heard it wont support cm7,MIUI. Is there any possibility of finding DFP-891 asian retail SBF.
I have been using cm7 and not sure about miui but I think miui 4 beta 2 works
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jackajay said:
I dont want go for 2.3.6 since i heard it wont support cm7,MIUI. Is there any possibility of finding DFP-891 asian retail SBF.
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pranks and i use the same ROM,kernel etc...
CM 7.2 Nightlies for DEFY+ work just fine...you can't use any builds exclusive to 2.2 red lens kernel ever...but Defy+ builds.YES
thanx for the info,but i read in motorola forums that 2.3.6 has lot of issues. so reluctant to upgrade to 2.3.4 to 2.3.6. is it not possible to get DFP-891 Asian retail sbf?
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jackajay said:
thanx for the info,but i read in motorola forums that 2.3.6 has lot of issues. so reluctant to upgrade to 2.3.4 to 2.3.6. is it not possible to get DFP-891 Asian retail sbf?
Sent from my MB526 using XDA
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Keep searching. You may turn lucky... but there are many users here who has the 1321sbf! .. For me: no issues so far. Moreover there is a Chinese froyo with bl6! So should you feel like checking out defy builds for cm u can flash that too...
Warning: Chinese sbf may burn you're flash
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i am googling for couple of days but as u said i am only seeing 1321 build and no 891 build version.if u come across one pls let me know.
thanx a lot for ur info.
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jackajay said:
i am googling for couple of days but as u said i am only seeing 1321 build and no 891 build version.if u come across one pls let me know.
thanx a lot for ur info.
Sent from my MB526 using XDA
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Well I never came across any! That's the reason I myself flashed the 1321 version back then..!
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may anybody over here may help me with an SBF of dfp-231 asia retail...
antarix said:
may anybody over here may help me with an SBF of dfp-231 asia retail...
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You'll find it here.
Hi, the link for DFP-1321 SBF given in the official thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386942) seems to be broken. This puts me in a spot since I'm made to believe it's not wise to flash a custom ROM without having at least one stock SBF I can fall back on, in case I mess up my phone somehow. I was really looking forward to flashing a custom ROM, and now this problem...
Could someone suggest any alternative link/SBF/method or better still, reupload the DFP-1321 SBF and post the link on the relevant thread? Thanks in advance...
ChronicArachnophobic said:
Hi, the link for DFP-1321 SBF given in the official thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386942) seems to be broken. This puts me in a spot since I'm made to believe it's not wise to flash a custom ROM without having at least one stock SBF I can fall back on, in case I mess up my phone somehow. I was really looking forward to flashing a custom ROM, and now this problem...
Could someone suggest any alternative link/SBF/method or better still, reupload the DFP-1321 SBF and post the link on the relevant thread? Thanks in advance...
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Make a nandroid backup before you flash anything..
If something goes wrong, just restore your backup..
However,there might be a scenario when you cannot access your recovery (highly unlikely if you follow instructions),then you shall need your stock SBF to fall back to.
As for the link being down,
walter79 said:
rom is down have to reupload it. check my mirrors.
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neo.ank said:
Make a nandroid backup before you flash anything..
If something goes wrong, just restore your backup..
However,there might be a scenario when you cannot access your recovery (highly unlikely if you follow instructions),then you shall need your stock SBF to fall back to.
As for the link being down,
Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
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I see, thanks for your response! I wasn't sure whether just restoring a nandroid backup would let get me back to my Stock GB after I flashed a CM10 ROM (It is enough, right? Could you please confim? My Stock configuration right now is super stable and quite fast, I want to ensure I can get back to it at some point if I don't like CM10).
ChronicArachnophobic said:
I see, thanks for your response! I wasn't sure whether just restoring a nandroid backup would let get me back to my Stock GB after I flashed a CM10 ROM (It is enough, right? Could you please confim? My Stock configuration right now is super stable and quite fast, I want to ensure I can get back to it at some point if I don't like CM10).
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Yes it will..
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Yes it will..
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Thanks again. By the way, I had checked his mirrors before for the SBF, but only found a nandroid backup of it, not the actual SBF.
Hi guys.
I installed CM9 on my Defy MB525 and now i can't manage to go back to Froyo!!!!!!!
The only two ROMs that worked to me are:
JDGC_U6_2.13.0_SIGNED_USAJRDNPRCB1B50AA039.0R_JORDANAPCNCU_P017_A042_M006_HWp3_Service1FF
and
DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-132_BLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_USADEFYEMARAB1B8RTDE004.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTDACH_P018_A019_M002_HWp3_WIG148149_Service1FF
but i dont want them!!
i want my Official 2.2.1 ... (i used to use this one, stock)
but when i try to install , it doesnt power on, just stay a white led if its connected to USB.
dunno what to do anymore!!!
help please.
Thanks!
(already tried wipe data/factory reset and cache partt.. didnt work)
Have you read this Post? http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Motorola_Defy - Stock Rom's inside as well
Cheers...
If you flashed Defy+ full sbf, you would never be able to go back froyo. People normally use nandroid and fixed sbf to jump around roms for that sake of freedom between eclair, froyo and gingerbread..
Sent from my awesome Moto Defy: Rooted Gingerbread 2.3.6 - XDA Premium
If you flashed defy+ full sbf ... then you can't go back to defy rom.
Omg!
so now whats my "stock" rom? :O
i need it in BR btw.
ruantr said:
Omg!
so now whats my "stock" rom? :O
i need it in BR btw.
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There is only one BL6 Froyo and that is chinese! BL6 is the bootloader version and once upgraded can NEVER be downgraded! So yes you are pretty much stuck!
I have the same problem, but I cannot use this chisese rom because it bootloops.
Is there any other bl6 full sbf?
its on 2.1 right now and Id like to install a different version. even a custom rom, what should i do?
after looking a bit i want this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161110
or this Cm 7 rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654
i see froyo everywhere, what does it mean? is it a kernel? how do i install? can i get a full tutorial? thanks.
help please?
Bei60 said:
help please?
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U need to upgrade ur fone
It is running 2.1 now
U need 2.2
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Bei60 said:
its on 2.1 right now and Id like to install a different version. even a custom rom, what should i do?
after looking a bit i want this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161110
or this Cm 7 rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654
i see froyo everywhere, what does it mean? is it a kernel? how do i install? can i get a full tutorial? thanks.
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Android 2.1= Eclair
Android 2.2= Froyo
You can't do anything until you update to 2.2
Search for RSD Lite to flash Froyo SBF files (ie stock ROMs). Plenty of info in this forum. Remember to wipe data & cache after flash.
After that, root, install 2nd-init.
For custom ROM I recommend CM10 4.1.2 since CM7 is a bit outdated.
Checked out this???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
dabanhfreak said:
Android 2.1= Eclair
Android 2.2= Froyo
You can't do anything until you update to 2.2
Search for RSD Lite to flash Froyo SBF files (ie stock ROMs). Plenty of info in this forum. Remember to wipe data & cache after flash.
After that, root, install 2nd-init.
For custom ROM I recommend CM10 4.1.2 since CM7 is a bit outdated.
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can i get a download link to froyo 2.2?
help please?
Read the wiki for DEFY and/or the Q&A-Threads/Guides. They shall answer your basic questions (hence the name) ...
ps:
To prevent spam to the forums, new users must wait five minutes between posts. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed.
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Yeah, right: even for editing posts? wow!
20130301 CM7 for me is the best. Speed and stability.
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Schattenspieler said:
Read the wiki for DEFY and/or the Q&A-Threads/Guides. They shall answer your basic questions (hence the name) ...
ps: Yeah, right: even for editing posts? wow!
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I have read it and did not understand what to download or is it safe for my phone... One peace of info, leads me to another and I get confused.
Ok, so what exactly is your problem? chandujram linked the beginners guide, where you may find that you need RSDLite (the flashing tool) and a SBF file to flash matching your phone and region (and provider if you want) - both are linked in the thread. Follow the instructions to flash the SBF to your phone and you have Froyo/Gingerbread. This thread should give you a clue, what SBF is Froyo or Gingerbread - and what bootloader they bring. you have read and understood, that certain bootloader versions come with some restrictions, haven't you? Good. Then follow the instructions in the thread for the rom you posted.
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Ok, so what exactly is your problem? chandujram linked the beginners guide, where you may find that you need RSDLite (the flashing tool) and a SBF file to flash matching your phone and region (and provider if you want) - both are linked in the thread. Follow the instructions to flash the SBF to your phone and you have Froyo/Gingerbread. This thread should give you a clue, what SBF is Froyo or Gingerbread - and what bootloader they bring. you have read and understood, that certain bootloader versions come with some restrictions, haven't you? Good. Then follow the instructions in the thread for the rom you posted.
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after reading this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
I didn't understand which version is for me. I know how to use the RSDLite tool, and I know how to root, I just need to be told which version to download.
Ok, what provider do you have, in what country do you live/use your phone and what Android version shall it be after flashing?
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Ok, what provider do you have, in what country do you live/use your phone and what Android version shall it be after flashing?
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I live in Israel. My carrier is Orange but I believe it previously belonged to Cellcom (another carrier).
I want to install CM7 because it seems awesome but it requires froyo 2.2 in order to flash. And Im on stock 2.1
Latest CM7 build is the best
@rizeN50:
Have you even read the thread? He ain't on Froyo or Gingerbread, yet.
@Bei60:
Well, Israel makes it quite easy, doesn't it? The SBF-list only shows one entry for Israel and the other thread shows only one entry, too. Either of them should be fine, but I didn't check them. If in doubt, take the one from the SBF-list. But I don't know, if they're GB oder Froyo.