So I got a mt4g from someone who unlocked it using the bootloader using the HTC dev method. if I boot into the bootloader it shows s off. The phone was updated to gb so how do I go about rooting it? From what I've seen it says you have to downgrade if your on gb but this phone has s off already.
Hopefully someone can help out I would really like to root, install cwm and flash a Rom on here tonight if possible
S-OFF means the phone wasn't unlocked by HTCDev, but rooted and S-OFFed in the past.
Go to Development section, look at the stickies. One of them says "S-OFF only". Take a guess, what is it there for.
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I need to send my Mytouch 4g in for repair due to an issue with "limited service" problems. Both T-Mobile and HTC said it is a rare problem and it needs to come in for repair.
My problem is that my phone is/has been rooted. I need to COMPLETELY UNROOT it before sending it in, or they will not repair/replace.
What can I do to completely unroot so they will not know that it was ever rooted?
I have run the unlockr method with the PD15IMG but Im not sure that is it. What else can do to see that it was rooted? Is there anything other than info in the bootloader? I turned the S-On again.
PS - the issue with my phone is when i put in my SIM card (under any rom, including stock) it comes back with a message saying "limited service" and i cannot do anything to fix it. If you have an answer for this too, that would be helpful.
Either way I dont want to lost this phone due to root/warranty problems.
Thanks ahead of time....
How did you root it? Did you use gfree and simunlock? Did you flash engineering hboot? Did you S-OFF? Did you flash custom images?
There are a lot of questions to answer in what to undo.
If you SIM/Super CID unlocked and radio S-OFF with gfree then you need to follow the instructions in the gfree thread on how to restore your part7 backup.
If you flashed the engineering hboot, again, follow info in the gfree thread on how to flash it back to stock.
Once you are back to normal hboot and S-ON, just loading the PD15IMG for the complete OTA (find the thread in the dev section) will factory wipe and clear the rest for you.
Thanks for the quick reply. I followed the unlockr method completely to gain root.
theunlockr.com/2010/12/10/how-to-gain-permanent-root-and-s-off-on-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-htc-glacier/
Then I installed Iced Glacier.
I also did their unroot method which includes flashing the PD15IMG and turning the S-On. Normally, should I receive an OTA after flashing this? Or is this THE updated image?
If is should expect an OTA, I will not get it. The reason i need to send the phone in is because i do not get service with the SIM card in. It reads "Limited service" "Emergency Calls Only". In this case, i would not recieve an OTA. Is there anything else I can do?
Thanks again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Scroll down to "follow these steps to restore stock hboot (0.86.0000) and flash that back on if you have not already.
If you flashed the PD15IMG from this thread then it already has the OTA updated applied and you should be g2g.
Thank you very much. That is a huge help.
After updating the HBoot and flashing the PD15IMG we should be back to stock.
Is there any way after that HTC will see it as previously rooted?
I thought to myself that the hackers were smarter than the developers.... Im glad I was right.
Thanks again.
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pnut22r said:
Is there any way after that HTC will see it as previously rooted?
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With S-ON, a stock hboot, and a fresh flash of the OTA image -- no, not to my knowledge.
Ok so I am expecting to receive a replacement for the BAD SCREEN (inferior) issue. So preparing to get my phone to STOCK condition.
--------PRESENT STATE----------
Rooted - using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021
S=OFF
Radio - 26.09.04.26
ROM - Nexus AOSP 1.2.7
Recovery - 3.0.2.4
----------STOCK STATE------------
Unroot - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924923
S=ON
Radio - 26.03.02.26 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059347
Recovery - ????
Now I kind of know where I need to be at but I am not sure of the sequence of the steps. Also, how do I get back to stock recovery from Clockwork?
Is there a good check list of things to make sure before sending back the old phone?
thanks a lot.
for unroot
download stock rom from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901477
rename it PD15IMG.zip and put it in the root of your sdcard not in a folder
go into hboot by powering off then hold VOL DOWN+POWER
then it will automatically check to find PD15IMG.zip when it ask for update click yes
wait for it to install done stock unroot
Thanks for your reponse. I was aware of that method and was planning on using it. Does that also take care of clockwork recovery and updated radio?
UPDATE: The HTC Developers official unlock does not seem to allow the flashing of most, possibly all custom ROMs. The best advice is to re-lock the bootloader using the official tool, and then use the Advanced Ace Hack Kit to root and S-OFF your phone.
I've seen quite a few threads in Q&A recently where people have used the official bootloader unlock at the HTCDev website, then tried to flash a custom ROM and got stuck. The most common problem seems to be that they get stuck in the bootloader, or they flash a ROM but it hangs at the splash screen.
The best advice so far seems to be to flash a stock ROM, re-lock the bootloader, and then use the Advanced Ace Hack Kit to get S-OFF and root in the "usual" way. However one poor guy couldn't even get that far and ended up sending his phone off to HTC, although I think he tried running the AAHK without re-locking his bootloader first.
I'm not an expert on what the official unlock does and how it differs from our usual S-OFF methods. The HTC website indicates that their unlock lifts security on the boot, recovery and system images, but not on radio or sim-locks. To me that sounds enough to flash a custom ROM, but I'm not an expert and clearly a lot of people are having trouble.
I think it might be helpful to have a warning here on the DHD forums - if you want to unlock your phone, use the AAHK or any of the similar tools here. Don't use the HTCDev unlock method - at least until we better understand what's causing people these problems.
If anyone understands the technical differences between the HTC tool and the Radio S-OFF methods, or what's causing people to have these problems, please explain here so we can all understand it better! I'm slightly worried when trying to help people with advice, because if I get it wrong I might make things worse for them. And I don't really want to use the HTCDev tool myself to experiment.
If the HTC unlock itself is fine, but people are doing something wrong after using it, then perhaps once we know what that is, it can be put in a sticky? Or if the best advice is to avoid the HTC unlock method altogether, perhaps that should be stickied instead? (Or is there already a warning up that I've missed?)
It would be good if we as a community could come up with some clear advice, and maybe save people a lot of stress and hassle.
Yes, as a clueless person I would really welcome any expert guidance on this, I want to install other ROMs and if I can do it via 'official' methods all the better.
I experienced this exact same problem. I was expecting that unlocking meant getting root access but obviously this was not not the case so then I used the Ace Hack Kit which got stuck at flashing the ROM for downgrade. It showed the message in a quick flash (I had to record the screen it to see it) stating that the zip file content was not correct. Luckily the guys at the IRC help channel pointed me directly to the cause... the bootloader was unlocked and re-locking it would solve it.
Unfortunately the 'fastboot oem lock' method did not work right away. I re-installed HTC-sync (removed it before according Ace guide) and this got it working again so that I could re-lock. After this the whole Ace procedure worked fine and I now have root.
My advise would be to at least include a line on re-locking before start in the EFFEN manual and ensure that HTC-sync is installed for the relock (and remove it afterwards of course)
Thanks pamarama, that's exactly the kind of info I was hoping for regarding HTC Sync.
Do you know if AAHK also requires a working ROM on the phone before you start?
Some people don't have a working ROM, so I've been recommending that as well as re-locking the bootloader, they flash an RUU so there's a bootable ROM on the phone before they try AAHK.
Hi preacher65,
I honestly don't know if a working rom is required. I guess that the AAHK experts would be able to answer this question. I had a working rom at least but I can imagine that in order to do the downgrade the only thing that needs to be intact is the data that triggers AAHK to do the downgrade. If that flash succeeds you should have a working rom again.
From reading other threads, what I think the issue is that one simply can't install a rom. After flashing a rom one has to install a new boot image to actually get it to boot
The problem with HTC Dev unlock is that it doesn't allow boot.img to be flashed in any mode other than fastboot.
You can flash a custom rom, but then have to extract the boot.img from the zip and flash it via fastboot. Thats why everyone gets stuck on splash screen.
-Nipqer
pamarama said:
Hi preacher65,
I honestly don't know if a working rom is required. I guess that the AAHK experts would be able to answer this question. I had a working rom at least but I can imagine that in order to do the downgrade the only thing that needs to be intact is the data that triggers AAHK to do the downgrade. If that flash succeeds you should have a working rom again.
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Thanks - I think you might need a working, rooted ROM to get SHIP S-OFF. At least you did in the days before the AAHK. Not sure if that works any differently. I'll check the manual to see if explains how it works.
marsdta said:
From reading other threads, what I think the issue is that one simply can't install a rom. After flashing a rom one has to install a new boot image to actually get it to boot
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Thanks, I think you're right. The HTC unlock says it unlocks the boot image, but it does seem as if people aren't able to flash a boot image as part of the ROM. Possibly due to most ROMs having custom kernels, perhaps?
I believe that all the developer opened firmwares still have restrictions in place, someone correct me if I'm wrong but that is generally what happens when a hardware manufacturer releases an unlocked bootloader. Your best bet is to use the Advanced Ace Hack kit then use Android Terminal Emulator to flash your bootloader with the ENG S-OFF version. Then you have complete control and freedom in your device.
I would type up all the specifics but there are many guides on the subjects above.
MP2E said:
I believe that all the developer opened firmwares still have restrictions in place
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Thanks, I'm sure you're right. What I'm really trying to find out is what those specific restrictions are - or failing that, just come up with a solid, workable solution for those people who have already tried the HTC unlock and are now stuck.
So far the solution seems to be to re-lock the bootloader and then use the AAHK. But some people I've tried to help in Q&A have been unable to flash a PD98IMG.zip or RUU, even after re-locking, to get a stock ROM back on their phone so they could run the Hack Kit.
FWIW my own phone was rooted over a year ago, using Visionary and running sfjuocekr's scripts inside Android Terminal Emulator to fhash hboot and CWM manually from the command line. Which is why I'm not very familiar with what the AAHK needs to run, but I assume it needs a working ROM to get Radio S-OFF.
If I have a mytouch 4g rooted and SIM unlocked with the gfree ultimate method and I flash the latest PD15IMG.ZIP from SD update in the engineering bootloader that I installed, I understand I can lose root, however will I lose the SIM Unlock as well from the bootloader I installed with the guide? I used this method for the root/unlock/bootloader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
I'm selling the phone but don't want to have the CWM because the person I am selling it to isn't too technical and probably wouldn't want some custom recovery.
Thanks
VoiD_Dweller said:
If I have a mytouch 4g rooted and SIM unlocked with the gfree ultimate method and I flash the latest PD15IMG.ZIP from SD update in the engineering bootloader that I installed, I understand I can lose root, however will I lose the SIM Unlock as well from the bootloader I installed with the guide? I used this method for the root/unlock/bootloader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
I'm selling the phone but don't want to have the CWM because the person I am selling it to isn't too technical and probably wouldn't want some custom recovery.
Thanks
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If you follow the steps listed above it will complete restore the phone to like factory new conditions.
No, you won't lose SIM unlock. The phone will be unlocked forever.
Shoot i would leave custom recovery .. wont hurt. Outta sight outta mind...
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Back when the very first version of Creamed Glacier came out, I did the whole root, s=off, and CWM think to flash it. Of course at the time it wasn't terrible stable, so I found a PD15IMG.zip down load and just reflashed stock with out manually disabling s=off or anything.
Does that mean that I still have s=off and I can just install CWM5 via the fastboot method to flash newer and more stable ICS ROMs without having to go through the process I did the first time? Reading around this forum, I'm leaning towards my answer is yes, but I want to make sure before breaking my phone or something.
Yes you do have S-OFF I believe. Boot into your bootloader and look at tbr very top and you'll see it say S-OFF or S-ON. Now if its off, I think you can flash CWM. But not sure...so root again without S-OFF. Sorry, this isn't my area of expertise.
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It probably says that you are s=off but you will still want to reroot the phone if you returned to stock with pd15img. also make sure to return to froyo radio and check your android version #. If it is gingerbread then downgrade before attempting to reroot or it probably wont work and may possibly brick the phone.
Hi Gents,
Before I get flamed, have been on XDA for with a HD2 for a while so bear with me - I have purchased a Mytouch and it has come with S-off but no root have tried pushing CWR via adb but comes back not reading the img - also came with 2.3.4 update S-off is ther a way I can flash a rom thats rooted to get Su permission ??
I am on H-boot .89
Any help would be great.
Thx
Stickies and INDEX are a great help.
Some basic reading is expected.
Thank Jack_R1 used to say the same myself I think re downgrade and start from scratch ... eeek and this one has a bad chipset -
No need to re-downgrade. If you got S-OFF - you're good.
Now flash engineering bootloader (0.85) by PD15IMG.ZIP way (search the guides for it) and use fastboot for flashing recovery.
This should guide you enough.
Thanks mate appreciate the help
Edit: have done your suggested but i am getting a Cid error ??
Means you probably don't have MT4G, but HTC Panache.
Look up a thread named "Videotron/Mobilicity Panache thread". There are instructions for making goldcard.
Actually, what it could also mean is that your phone was S-OFF-ed by XTC Clip and not by gfree, which means you're still not SuperCID. You might want to downgrade to Froyo and run gfree for SuperCID only.