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Returning to stock completely, clarification questions.

Hi guys,
I'd like to return my G2 to stock....completely stock and I have a few questions to make sure I'm doing this right (as I've heard that simply installing an officially signed ROM can screw things up).
Right now, I've done everything using the gfree method to get radio, s-off, and even the engineering hboot installed.
My question then becomes, should I follow the instructions as per wiki on returning to stock, or do I follow this guide?
My next question is then, is there anything specific that I should do first? Like remove hboot first, and then follow either of the above guides? And if I hve to remove hboot, how would I go about doing that (I tried searching, but I wasn't able to find anything).
If anyone could guide me on the matter, Id really appreciate it.

I'd like confirmation on the best and most up-to-date guide on this as well. Thanks

Just follow the guide that you linked to in your thread. You don't need to mess with hboot. As long as you follow the guide correctly you will overwrite the engineering hboot with the stock hboot.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.

Since you used gfree, you'll need to either restore the partition 7 backup or use gfree to S-ON and set your CID back.
Then follow something like the guide you linked to in order to flash the correct PC10IMG for your phone (as stated earlier, this will also get rid of your engineering HBOOT).
If you had one of the later phones that came with the OTA preinstalled, update your phone with it after the flash is done.
Format your SD card from your settings and then enter the bootloader one more time to do a factory rest.
You should then be completely back to how the phone was when you first got it (with the exception of subsidy unlock if you didn't have the original partition 7 backup from gfree---unlocking your phone is allowed by most carriers though, so shouldn't be a problem).

Thank you for that information. In which order do I do this? Restore the partition first (how would I do this?), or do I install the stock ROM first? Or...?
As you see, I'm confused as to the order of how I would go about doing this assuming I followed the gfree method through and through
Currently, I have an original nandroid backup through clockwerk. Would I "restore" that backup first in the recovery menu, followed by restoring the original gfree backup partition?
My biggest worry currently is that I can't put any stock rom on the phone due to the engineered hboot causing a booting loop problem (something I read on a sticky or something?)? Because based on the Wiki, I need to install the stock ROM first before reinstating the backup gfree partition.
Again, thank you everyone thus far for helping me out with my questions. I do hope that you guys can still answer my remaining questions!
ianmcquinn said:
Since you used gfree, you'll need to either restore the partition 7 backup or use gfree to S-ON and set your CID back.
Then follow something like the guide you linked to in order to flash the correct PC10IMG for your phone (as stated earlier, this will also get rid of your engineering HBOOT).
If you had one of the later phones that came with the OTA preinstalled, update your phone with it after the flash is done.
Format your SD card from your settings and then enter the bootloader one more time to do a factory rest.
You should then be completely back to how the phone was when you first got it (with the exception of subsidy unlock if you didn't have the original partition 7 backup from gfree---unlocking your phone is allowed by most carriers though, so shouldn't be a problem).
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Okay, thanks guys, I managed to return everything back to stock.

PoisonWolf said:
Thank you for that information. In which order do I do this? Restore the partition first (how would I do this?), or do I install the stock ROM first? Or...?
As you see, I'm confused as to the order of how I would go about doing this assuming I followed the gfree method through and through
Currently, I have an original nandroid backup through clockwerk. Would I "restore" that backup first in the recovery menu, followed by restoring the original gfree backup partition?
My biggest worry currently is that I can't put any stock rom on the phone due to the engineered hboot causing a booting loop problem (something I read on a sticky or something?)? Because based on the Wiki, I need to install the stock ROM first before reinstating the backup gfree partition.
Again, thank you everyone thus far for helping me out with my questions. I do hope that you guys can still answer my remaining questions!
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Hi!
My original guide how to go back to stock can be found here: http://www.thinkthinkdo.com/trac/project1/wiki/back_to_stock
It is absolutely up to date and i did this myself several times.
There is only one important prerequisite before you follow this guide: You need to be radio S-OFF before you start this.
The engineering-hboot only causes problems if you are not radio S-OFF. So if you used gfree to get radio S-OFF the eng-hboot will not be a problem.
There is no need to install the nandroid backup before you do this procedure.
have fun - Guhl

Thanks for that but I have successfully returned the phone to stock already
I just used my nandroid backup followed by manually setting the Cid back to tmob010. After that, I iinstalled the stock recovery and used the guide I linked earlier by starting at procedure 2.
In short, it was a very eclectic approach and I did what made sense to me. Lawl. It all worked out ok. Back to the good old hd2 for now
guhl99 said:
Hi!
My original guide how to go back to stock can be found here: http://www.thinkthinkdo.com/trac/project1/wiki/back_to_stock
It is absolutely up to date and i did this myself several times.
There is only one important prerequisite before you follow this guide: You need to be radio S-OFF before you start this.
The engineering-hboot only causes problems if you are not radio S-OFF. So if you used gfree to get radio S-OFF the eng-hboot will not be a problem.
There is no need to install the nandroid backup before you do this procedure.
have fun - Guhl
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Sent from my HD2

S-ON and S-OFF

Today I accidently turned it on (the thing in the bootloader) and now I can't turn it off no matter what so I can do a revert to stock .img, I used the PDI15.img or w.e that would revert back to stock forgetting that I had the newest radio and now I can't revert to stock or turn S-OFF. Please help
Current Configurations:
GLACIER PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT - 0.86.0000
MICORP - 0429
RADIO - 26.09.04.26_M
eMMC - BOOT
More Info:
When I use a PDIMG or w/e file it errors out as being old

Can you still boot? Like into your rom? If so just try rooting using visionary and using a root explorer to push the gfree files to data/local/ then just follow the normal rooting procedure
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Nicgraner said:
Can you still boot? Like into your rom? If so just try rooting using visionary and using a root explorer to push the gfree files to data/local/ then just follow the normal rooting procedure
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Yeah I can still boot into my rom, bootloader, and recovery and okay will try that
EDIT: Okay I did, I tried turning S-OFF but it says something about eMMC power cycle failed

XxKOLOHExX said:
Yeah I can still boot into my rom, bootloader, and recovery and okay will try that
EDIT: Okay I did, I tried turning S-OFF but it says something about eMMC power cycle failed
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dude! I noticed this also this morning. I am rooted(using setcpu and root explorer just fine) but in hboot it says s=on. I was also wanting to flash the stock .img and start fresh. thought I was the only one having this problem. tried everything you did and got the same results.

What ROM are you on? AFAIK, gfree, requires the stock kernel to do what it does. How on earth did you turn S-ON? That sort of thing shouldn't just happen out of nowhere.

How is the progress on fixing your phone?

jdkoren said:
What ROM are you on? AFAIK, gfree, requires the stock kernel to do what it does. How on earth did you turn S-ON? That sort of thing shouldn't just happen out of nowhere.
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currently on Evil D mTGB v1.0, Faux 0.0.7 CFS lv leak kernel. everything works fine, no FC's or anything. just having the same issues as XxKOLOHExX. I really have no idea how it turned on by itself, I dont remember doing anything out of the ordinary

I was trying to get back to stock from the rom i was on. (MIUI) and when I used the stock .img though the bootloader it went all good till it rebooted, then it said failed because the file was old and now I am stuck with s-on and I don't know how to turn it off

How did you get to the stock bootloader? Did you have eng bootloader at one point? What meth of root did you use? Alot of info missing.
Now download the stock radio.img and push it via adb or just download the PD15IMG.zip (radio only not rom included). Once this is done you can revert back to stock rom/radio using standard PD15IMG.zip (radio+rom). Now depending on the type of root you used it would depend if you still have radio flag on/off even if your reverted back to stock bootloader.
PS: You can get PD15IMG.zip (stock radio) from master radio thread and PD15IMG.zip (stock radio/rom) by doing search.

PermROOT said:
How did you get to the stock bootloader? Did you have eng bootloader at one point? What meth of root did you use? Alot of info missing.
Now download the stock radio.img and push it via adb or just download the PD15IMG.zip (radio only not rom included). Once this is done you can revert back to stock rom/radio using standard PD15IMG.zip (radio+rom). Now depending on the type of root you used it would depend if you still have radio flag on/off even if your reverted back to stock bootloader.
PS: You can get PD15IMG.zip (stock radio) from master radio thread and PD15IMG.zip (stock radio/rom) by doing search.
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It flashed the bootloader when I flashed the PD15IMG.zip, it just stop when I did the whole procedure. Nope never flashed an Engineer Bootloader. I used theunlockr.com sites method
I tried that, it uziped then tried to flash the radio then just went back to the original menu for the bootloader

If you used the VISIONary+ (TempROOT) and root.sh (PermROOT) meth then you already had engineering hboot (0.85.2007) pushed though terminal on "/dev/block/mmcblk0p18". Now you did something in between is what I would like to know.
As you flashed new radio (26.09.04.26_M) which I am clear. But what I like to know is how did you end up with default hboot (0.86.0000)? If you had S=OFF you didn't lose it via flashing new radio. Which PD15IMG.zip did you install? Now when you say PD15IMG.zip what do you mean? It can be anything as its default mt4g system based image. Stock PD15IMG.zip = (Sense 2.2.1 Rom/Radio 26.03.02.26_M). Did you install leaked PD15IMG.zip from Panache? or GB2.3.3S?
Are you not 1 of the Royal dev's? who try to take over Silence's IG if I recall. I am just assuming here but this is why you do "NOT" dump system image via hboot. What you should have done was do complete total system wipe (format /data; /system) and then flash new edify based CWMR flashable rom.

PermROOT said:
If you used the VISIONary+ (TempROOT) and root.sh (PermROOT) meth then you already had engineering hboot (0.85.2007) pushed though terminal on "/dev/block/mmcblk0p18". Now you did something in between is what I would like to know.
As you flashed new radio (26.09.04.26_M) which I am clear. But what I like to know is how did you end up with default hboot (0.86.0000)? If you had S=OFF you didn't lose it via flashing new radio. Which PD15IMG.zip did you install? Now when you say PD15IMG.zip what do you mean? It can be anything as its default mt4g system based image. Stock PD15IMG.zip = (Sense 2.2.1 Rom/Radio 26.03.02.26_M). Did you install leaked PD15IMG.zip from Panache? or GB2.3.3S?
Are you not 1 of the Royal dev's? who try to take over Silence's IG if I recall. I am just assuming here but this is why you do "NOT" dump system image via hboot. What you should have done was do complete total system wipe (format /data; /system) and then flash new edify based CWMR flashable rom.
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Yeah I know that, I Was trying to go back to stock everything using the unrooting method(PD15IMG.zip). Using this file I was able to get through the first step and it rebooted, then it went back to bootloader and now it won't take the PD15IMG.zip saying that it is an older file. Yes I am one of the devs, That's why before posting I tried everything I could think of, gfree, old unrooting methods, etc. I didn't use a dump lol I'm not that noobish haha

Thats where you got owned as the PD15IMG.zip (stock rom/radio) just reverted back to hboot (0.86.0000) from eng hboot (0.85.2007). While you attempted to go further you couldn't do to security turning on (S=ON). Now this normally wouldn't be problem but since you had newer radio (26.09.04.26_M) it wouldn't replace it with old.
All you had to do was follow few simple meths which you should have learned it over the years. Go back same way you came by first reverting back to original radio image and then after doing complete system wipe you should have reverted back to original factory based via stock pd15img.
Ill post back with solution soon let me think this out. I don't want to brick your phone trying to manually push the radio.img nor the eng_hboot.img. As if you try to push radio now would fail on write and give you hard brick. Since S=ON and if you try to push eng_hboot.img who knows what will happen as no R/W access on mmcblk could could also fail thus giving bad flash which can also brick the device. Ill see what happens and post back at... you folks just made more extra work for me.

PermROOT said:
Thats where you got owned as the PD15IMG.zip (stock rom/radio) just reverted back to hboot (0.86.0000) from eng hboot (0.85.2007). While you attempted to go further you couldn't do to security turning on (S=ON). Now this normally wouldn't be problem but since you had newer radio (26.09.04.26_M) it wouldn't replace it with old.
All you had to do was follow few simple meths which you should have learned it over the years. Go back same way you came by first reverting back to original radio image and then after doing complete system wipe you should have reverted back to original factory based via stock pd15img.
Ill post back with solution soon let me think this out. I don't want to brick your phone trying to manually push the radio.img nor the eng_hboot.img. As if you try to push radio now would fail on write and give you hard brick. Since S=ON and if you try to push eng_hboot.img who knows what will happen as no R/W access on mmcblk could could also fail thus giving bad flash which can also brick the device. Ill see what happens and post back at... you folks just made more extra work for me.
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Thank you so much for the help

PermROOT said:
Thats where you got owned as the PD15IMG.zip (stock rom/radio) just reverted back to hboot (0.86.0000) from eng hboot (0.85.2007). While you attempted to go further you couldn't do to security turning on (S=ON). Now this normally wouldn't be problem but since you had newer radio (26.09.04.26_M) it wouldn't replace it with old.
All you had to do was follow few simple meths which you should have learned it over the years. Go back same way you came by first reverting back to original radio image and then after doing complete system wipe you should have reverted back to original factory based via stock pd15img.
Ill post back with solution soon let me think this out. I don't want to brick your phone trying to manually push the radio.img nor the eng_hboot.img. As if you try to push radio now would fail on write and give you hard brick. Since S=ON and if you try to push eng_hboot.img who knows what will happen as no R/W access on mmcblk could could also fail thus giving bad flash which can also brick the device. Ill see what happens and post back at... you folks just made more extra work for me.
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lol sorry for the extra work, just dont wanna have the chance of bricking my phone but like XxKOLOHExX I wanted to revert back to stock from mTGB using the stock PD15IMG_Glacier_TMOUS_1.17.531.2_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155771_signed. everything he described is happening to me also, step by step. I rooted with the visionary+ and permroot method(unlockr). I did download and flash the 26.08.04.30 radio. heres what I see in hboot
GLACIER PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.86.0000
MICROP-0429
RADIO-26.08.04.30_M3
eMMC-boot
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so what youre saying is that we should try flashing the stock radio first, wipe the whole phone(including sdcard?), then flash the stock PD15IMG? Ill give it a shot real quick, thanks
*edit* hboot wont even let me flash the stock radio, itll say checking but wont actually let me update it

Well clarknick27 the problem here is that root.sh to gain PermROOT via VISIONary+ just push the 0.85.2007 eng hboot and giving temporary S=OFF, the true security flag as we know it is controlled in the radio. So when you try to revert back using stock PD15IMG (rom/radio) it reverted back to the stock 0.86.0000 hboot thus turning on the security flag on.
What you all should have done is reverted back same way you installed it. Which would have been first use PD15IMG.zip (stock radio) and then use stock PD15IMG.zip (radio/rom). I still need some sleep lol I just wokeup after sleeping 2hours.
The MT4G I tested on I rooted it via VISIONary+ and then flashed GB Leak rom not the PD15IMG.zip (leak radio/rom) which contained the 0.89.0005 hboot. So after flashing stock radio PD15IMG.zip (radio 26.03.02.26_M) I was able to flash stock PD15IMG.zip (rom/radio) without problem. Which is same as I suspected even after S=ON due to same version radio no problem. If I had newer radio after that point it would be locked out. Let me go to sleep and wakeup and ill see what happens from there. As I have clean MT4G ill have to reroot it first.

BTW XxKOLOHExX and clarknick27 just in case my account gets disabled. Do the following and report it here and ill see from there.
1) Which working rom you currently have installed on the device?
I know trying to reroot using gfree may give you similar result as my test: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066966 < not important but unable to root on newer rom.
2) What happens when you try to reroot it using VISIONary+ (TempROOT) and root.sh (PermROOT)?
Did you try it? If so what is the end result? so post back. Ill check and go from there.

PermROOT said:
BTW XxKOLOHExX and clarknick27 just in case my account gets disabled. Do the following and report it here and ill see from there.
1) Which working rom you currently have installed on the device?
I know trying to reroot using gfree may give you similar result as my test: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066966 < not important but unable to root on newer rom.
2) What happens when you try to reroot it using VISIONary+ (TempROOT) and root.sh (PermROOT)?
Did you try it? If so what is the end result? so post back. Ill check and go from there.
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1) currently running Evil D's mTGB v1.0 rom with Faux's 0.0.7 CFS LV leak kernel. tried rooting with visionary and terminal first, no success. I then tried out the gfree method, and got "Attempting to power cycle eMMC...failed. Module failed to load: No such file or directory."
2) I installed Visionary using Astro file manager, then run Visionary. I click on "temproot now" and it starts, but then the screen goes black and doesnt do anything. I have let it sit on the black screen for well over 15mins before with no luck. I can click on "attempt to permroot" and it will ask for permissions and reboot and everything. my s=on but I still have root access and 0.86.000 bootloader. this is what I see using terminal before rebooting to see if s=off

Did you do the Radio S=OFF using gfree? If so that would explain why you still have root as security is disabled on the device totally. If thats the case then just push the eng bootloader manually via adb or though terminal and reboot. For now XxKOLOHExX is locked lets see what I find ill post back for him.

PermROOT said:
Did you do the Radio S=OFF using gfree? If so that would explain why you still have root as security is disabled on the device totally. If thats the case then just push the eng bootloader manually via adb or though terminal and reboot. For now XxKOLOHExX is locked lets see what I find ill post back for him.
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thanks for taking the time to help out, Ill give it a shot
*edit* just tried pushing the eng bootloader through adb and it didnt stick or flash, rebooted into hboot and it still says 0.86.0000, s=on, 26.08.04.30_M3 radio

Device doesn power on after pwr off. on power on vibrates 3 times & orange LED flash

Device doesn power on after pwr off. on power on vibrates 3 times & orange LED flash
ok. here goes.
On rebooting my phone last night it doesnt come back on. It vibrates 3 times and the LED flashes orange.
The only way it comes back on is if i take out the battery for a while and then power it on again.
here is a chronology of what happens.
reboot or power down
devices powers off but doesnt restart. vibrates 3 times and the LED flashes orange.
pull out the battery and SDCARD and wait a minute.
After this I can now boot into CM7
Reboot or power off to restart. same thing happens again
this happens everytime i power down the device
things i have noticed
on plugging it into my PC it recognises my device as a qualcomm_cdma_technologies msm desire and tries to install drivers for it.
this is the first time i have seen this. My device is GSM based and i am on tmobile UK.
Device can never power back on immediately from power off. just vibrates 3 times, LED flashes. Only comes back when i pull battery and SD and wait a few seconds before powering it back on
What i have tried but they all dont solve it
flashing a new cwm recovery. i am able to flash a new one from rom manager but doesnt solve the problem. currently on Rom manager 4.2.0.2 and CWM 3.0.2.6
formatting my SDCARD through ROM Manager.
doing a full wipe and reflashing stable CM7.
all of these completed successfully with no errors
What i can do successfully
i can boot into bootloader and recovery from commandprompt or using the power+volume down combination. doesnt always power on because of the no boot (start) problem .
i can do "adb devices" and successfully see my device as HT0****** in the list of devices
On the terminal app, on typing "su" it gains root permission successfully.
i can succesfully access my SDCARD using astro and also using mount usb storage in recovery.
device information
HTC DEsire hd.
CM7.0.3 stable, previously on nightly CM_ace_full 83
ROM manager version 4.2.0.2
CWM 3.0.2.6
Radio 26.09.04.11_M2
hdboot-0.85.2007 (PD9810000)
ACE PVT ENG S-OFF
USBdebugging always on
please let me know if any further information is needed and how to get it.
I really need some help. I have trawled the forums and i am starting to believe that i have a partially bricked device or a usb brick. I havent seen any real solutions or any post with a problem like mine so i want to be sure that that is the issue before trying the fixes there. Is there any thread for fixing a Desire HD USB brick, because all the ones i have seen do not have a definite fix.

Hi,
I think you maybe close to hardware failure. I would perform a full backup of apps & data and restore a HTC RUU (1.32.405.6). Then if your problem still persists send it away for repair.

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Hi,
I think you maybe close to hardware failure. I would perform a full backup of apps & data and restore a HTC RUU (1.32.405.6). Then if your problem still persists send it away for repair.
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Thanks andy.
In flashing the HTC RUU. is that the process of removing root?. because i was thinking of removing root and then sending it back. but thought there might be a software fix for it i could try first.

Yes, flashing via RUU will remove root and ENG S-OFF. It will not restore Radio S-ON. It's probably advisable to use jkoljo's Radio S-OFF tool again to restore it and CID:HTC__001.

andyharney said:
Yes, flashing via RUU will remove root and ENG S-OFF. It will not restore Radio S-ON. It's probably advisable to use jkoljo's Radio S-OFF tool again to restore it and CID:HTC__001.
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im vey sorry andy. im now so scared of making this worse.
i have found jkoljos post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537 and i am going to try the instructions there but i do not understand the CID part. because after flashing the ruu i am supposed to do a temp root. id i remember correctly temp rppt reverts back to stock after reboot. or do i have to flash the RUU again.
sorry for the questions. havent had any sleep all night because of this and i am quite scared i will make it worse. i am going to do it now and will let you know.

santet said:
im vey sorry andy. im now so scared of making this worse.
i have found jkoljos post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537 and i am going to try the instructions there but i do not understand the CID part. because after flashing the ruu i am supposed to do a temp root. id i remember correctly temp rppt reverts back to stock after reboot. or do i have to flash the RUU again.
sorry for the questions. havent had any sleep all night because of this and i am quite scared i will make it worse. i am going to do it now and will let you know.
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I recently had to send mt phone back to HTC. What I did was flash the RUU, temproot and revert to stock CID (don't know why I didn't do this first) then flash the RUU again just to make absolutely sure that all was well.

Yeah I would use the tool to change Radio S-OFF to ON and restore the CID before you run the RUU. You will save yourself a lot of time and effort.

ok. on first try i already have a problem. i downloaded the easy radio tool.
connected my device with usb debugging on. run the application as administrator. clicked on Stock CID (my device is unbranded desire hd) started up, notified as pushing file to sd. reurned with unknown error, probably connection.
i tried the same with Radio S-On. same response.
i am doing this before flashing the new RUU i downloaded which is version RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.3_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.15_M3_release_155032_signed.zip.
what have i done wrong?

Don't panic your ok,
It just means you will have to run the RUU first then run Visionary+(r14) to get temp root then run the Radio S-OFF tool.

I have gone through all the steps with no glitches. How do i verify that my device no more has radio S-On and is fully returned to stock enough so as not to voide warranty. I have the stock ROM installed.
I also want to try updating using the recent OTA update and use the device a while to see if the problem returns before returning it to HTC.

If you temp rooted, then ran the Radio S-OFF tool to go back to S-ON and CID: HTC__001 then you are good to go. You are completely stock, do some testing to see if your reboot problem persists.

andyharney said:
If you temp rooted, then ran the Radio S-OFF tool to go back to S-ON and CID: HTC__001 then you are good to go. You are completely stock, do some testing to see if your reboot problem persists.
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Funny enough no more problem of being unable to reboot.
I have installed titanium.
i want to update to the latest OTA 2.3 update for the desirehd. do you know if the visioinary root and the the easy radio tool for s-off work after that update which i believe is the latest one.
I will use the device in its stock condition for two mpore days and if i do not have any more issues then im going to install a custon rom once again.
Thanks loads for all the help.

If you upgrade to 2.3 (2.36.405.x) then Visionary+ no longer works, you have to use GingerBreak instead. You can still downgrade to an earlier firmware.

I tried rooting again using visionary. got the same problem after applying permroot and then using the easy radio tool for S-OFF. After applying permroot it booted fine. But after applying S-OFF and SUperCID it goes back to same error and doesnt boot again. It seems then that it has something to do with the rooting process.
I will post a new thread asking if anyone has been unable to complete the S-OFF and SUPERCID process .

Why did you apply permroot? I said temproot, you don't want to make persistent changes. See if you can undo the permroot, there is a button to do it.

andyharney said:
Why did you apply permroot? I said temproot, you don't want to make persistent changes. See if you can undo the permroot, there is a button to do it.
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I did exactly as you said using temproot so as to be able to turn apply S-OFF and the stock CID.
but after i did that and it worked i just tried rooting once again permanently and had the same issue. I have updated to the OTA update and i will use that for a while as when reading the gingerbreak threads people do not seem to trust that it works fine.

I just re-read my last post, sorry if I came across as a d*ck, that was not the intent.
I would remain stock for a few days to see if that has an affect. If rooting is the cause of your issue, I doubt HTC will repair it because it has booting problems once rooted.

Unrooting/ restoring to stock issues

Alright guys so the bottom 1/5 of my screen stopped responding so I want to return my phone to tmobile and have it replaced.
But ive run into an issue. Sometimes when I go into bootloader it clamis i have s-off other times it tells me its s-on. and when i try to flash older radio so i can revert to stock rom it just says "checking" the image and then throws me back into the bootloader. any ideas on how i can restore to stock? Thanks in advance.

jeet92 said:
Alright guys so the bottom 1/5 of my screen stopped responding so I want to return my phone to tmobile and have it replaced.
But ive run into an issue. Sometimes when I go into bootloader it clamis i have s-off other times it tells me its s-on. and when i try to flash older radio so i can revert to stock rom it just says "checking" the image and then throws me back into the bootloader. any ideas on how i can restore to stock? Thanks in advance.
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Gonna need more info to troubleshoot. Lets start with how did you root the phone to start and how you unrooted. Are you doing anything different when it shows s-off than when it says s-on?

well i rooted with temp visionary and then gfree. now the trouble is i cant get it back to stock radio. that way i can flash original rom and unroot. I try to flash a new radio and it goes from s-on to s-off and when i batterypull and turn it back on its perfectly fine as s-on

jeet92 said:
well i rooted with temp visionary and then gfree. now the trouble is i cant get it back to stock radio. that way i can flash original rom and unroot. I try to flash a new radio and it goes from s-on to s-off and when i batterypull and turn it back on its perfectly fine as s-on
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I think you have some terminology mixed up. Are you saying that you flashed an updated radio and then PD15IMG.zip update from hboot? Are you trying to flash the stock rom or are you trying to unroot?
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[Q] Return to stock and keep S=off?

Back when the very first version of Creamed Glacier came out, I did the whole root, s=off, and CWM think to flash it. Of course at the time it wasn't terrible stable, so I found a PD15IMG.zip down load and just reflashed stock with out manually disabling s=off or anything.
Does that mean that I still have s=off and I can just install CWM5 via the fastboot method to flash newer and more stable ICS ROMs without having to go through the process I did the first time? Reading around this forum, I'm leaning towards my answer is yes, but I want to make sure before breaking my phone or something.

Yes you do have S-OFF I believe. Boot into your bootloader and look at tbr very top and you'll see it say S-OFF or S-ON. Now if its off, I think you can flash CWM. But not sure...so root again without S-OFF. Sorry, this isn't my area of expertise.
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It probably says that you are s=off but you will still want to reroot the phone if you returned to stock with pd15img. also make sure to return to froyo radio and check your android version #. If it is gingerbread then downgrade before attempting to reroot or it probably wont work and may possibly brick the phone.