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Need help recovering from a BAD ROM

I took the boot/system/data from nandroid and put it in the tools folder of the SDK
the cmd says
Sending boot... OK
writing boot....
FAILED remote: signature verify fail
anyone help?
i am connected since i get a serial back when i put fastboot devices

Questions first:
Are you on a 32A or 32B board?
Are you rooted?
Are you using a Recovery that allows for Nandroid backups/restores?
I'm going to assume that you have a 32A board since it says you are on the Rogers network, but in the future it's always a good idea to post this information to help people help you. If you DO NOT have a 32A board, DO NOT use the following link. Disclaimer aside, have you tried restoring from the Wiped Rogers Nandroid backup found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4095165&postcount=1? It clearly states however that if you use it, it is unrooted, and you may have to root your phone again, just as a fair warning.

Captchunk said:
Questions first:
Are you on a 32A or 32B board?
Are you rooted?
Are you using a Recovery that allows for Nandroid backups/restores?
I'm going to assume that you have a 32A board since it says you are on the Rogers network, but in the future it's always a good idea to post this information to help people help you. If you DO NOT have a 32A board, DO NOT use the following link. Disclaimer aside, have you tried restoring from the Wiped Rogers Nandroid backup found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4095165&postcount=1? It clearly states however that if you use it, it is unrooted, and you may have to root your phone again, just as a fair warning.
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32A
Rooted
Yes
thanks.. but i am very new to this stuff..
so what i am download are the boot images?
and i just replaces my image that nandroid created with one of these boots?
i flashed the hofo 1.1.1 before it looped so can i just use the 1.09 in the link or should i just go strait to the rogers?

XxXSnake23XxX said:
32A
Rooted
Yes
thanks.. but i am very new to this stuff..
so what i am download are the boot images?
and i just replaces my image that nandroid created with one of these boots?
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This file is a Nandroid backup of a Stock Wiped Rogers Rom, so in other words if you throw this on your SD card, boot to your recovery image, and then restore from this backup, you would be putting your Rogers back to it's original factory state.

Captchunk said:
This file is a Nandroid backup of a Stock Wiped Rogers Rom, so in other words if you throw this on your SD card, boot to your recovery image, and then restore from this backup, you would be putting your Rogers back to it's original factory state.
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just so i dont MESS upp
follow this:
http://howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=12768375&postcount=5
thanks for the quick reply

XxXSnake23XxX said:
just so i dont MESS upp
follow this:
http://howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=12768375&postcount=5
thanks for the quick reply
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Yes you can use that if you feel comfortable, the only thing in this situation that should be different is that you will not get your personal settings back, because the data.img is from the wiped rom.

Captchunk said:
Yes you can use that if you feel comfortable, the only thing in this situation that should be different is that you will not get your personal settings back, because the data.img is from the wiped rom.
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aslong as i get my phone running and unbricked i can always add back my personal info/settings and what not
EDIT:
im STILL getting a failed boot BLODDDDY HELLLLLL!!!!
do i put EVERYTHING in the SDK? or just the data/system/boot?

Alright, let's get a little more detailed, what Rom did you originally flash that caused the problem and what happened after you flashed it?

Oh and when you go into fastboot, what is your SPL version?

Captchunk said:
Alright, let's get a little more detailed, what Rom did you originally flash that caused the problem and what happened after you flashed it?
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I used the HoFo 1.1.1 ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534415&highlight=hofo
to upgrade the old HoFo rom that I had: http://howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=12825844&postcount=1
When I boot up my phone i get 3 screens
ROGERS
htc magic
htc
it is the htc screen is where it freezes
edit: SPL 1.33.0009

I know that sometimes people can't flash certain Rom's without updating their SPL. I'm not really sure why the Wiped Rogers Nandroid didn't work.

Captchunk said:
I know that sometimes people can't flash certain Rom's without updating their SPL. I'm not really sure why the Wiped Rogers Nandroid didn't work.
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figured it out with a help of xxgg

Having the same issue
I have the same device 32a and the same spl and my screen freezes at the same location. You said you found the fix can you post it please thanks

[REQUEST] Can anyone write a guide for Unrooting

Its only going to be a matter of time before people will need to send phones back under warranty for whatever reasons so a guide for unrooting will be needed.
Any takers?
G2 already has one, but obviously we will need different rom/hboot etc to go back to our stock.

Not just unrooting, but going completely back to stock, i.e. S-ON and stock ROM.
As you say, we should be able to base it on this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835971
Although we have several different stock ROMs, e.g. European, Asian, Vodafone UK, etc.

this is already covered in the FAQ (easy tutorial @ dev forum)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9143411&postcount=2

gtrab said:
this is already covered in the FAQ (easy tutorial @ dev forum)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9143411&postcount=2
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That just says to use Visionary to turn off rooting. Or did I miss something ?
As I said, I think we need to cover how to return a phone completely to stock, and I don't think it includes all that you'd really need to do, or if you didn't use Visionary in the first place, e.g. the kind of stuff in the G2 post that I linked.

steviewevie said:
That just says to use Visionary to turn off rooting. Or did I miss something ?
As I said, I think we need to cover how to return a phone completely to stock, and I don't think it includes all that you'd really need to do, or if you didn't use Visionary in the first place, e.g. the kind of stuff in the G2 post that I linked.
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It does say to flash an RUU to S-ON which in the past I would have said would work, but seeing how the G2 forums are not suggesting that its that simple my guess would be that its not that simple.

I had to flash the PC10img thing taken from the stock ROM to restore root and s-on. But no idea how to extract that PC10img thing, not that I have looked into it either.
That info was from one of the guides in the dev section I'm sure.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

What might work now will probably not work once an OTA update comes out for the DZ though, as per the problem on the G2 they've had which has led to quite a few semi-bricks (possibly full bricks in some cases ?).

Done some research, it would seem that flashing an RUU would work fine for those of us already rooted, if an OTA were to come out those who rooted after the OTA would have issues unless an RUU for the same OTA was released as well. (this is basically because the RUU's currently available will be older than the software the phone is on so the RUU would fail leaving you with a semi-bricked phone as described above, basically it would flash stock hboot and recovery then fail to flash the /system so you would be left with no root or recovery and no rom.
Flashing the ruu would give rise to accepting the OTA too, if you really wanted to do that, but it might block root.

you just need the RUU for your correct original phone version
OR use a gold card
eg. I have debranded mine from bell NAM 1.34.666.5 to euro generic 1.34.405.5
To go back to stock, I can:
1.- grab the bell 1.34.666.1 RUU (its slightly previous, but is the correct original version for my phone)
OR
2.- run the euro generic 1.34.405.5 with a golcard inserted

gtrab said:
you just need the RUU for your correct original phone version
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Isn't that dangerous though once we get any OTAs, and could lead to this ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484
Or am I missing something ?

steviewevie said:
Isn't that dangerous though once we get any OTAs, and could lead to this ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484
Or am I missing something ?
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Yes thats what I was getting at in my post above, any RUU you flash needs to be of the same or newer version of what your previously flashing. You cannot GoldCard to flash an RUU to S-ON or you get left with the semi-brick where you have stock recovery and hboot, but no rom installed.
So if an OTA comes out, you can't accept it, s-off then use an older RUU to s-on again. You would have to flash an RUU of that OTA version (if one is released).
Basically its best to not accept any OTA if you can avoid it and just wait for a custom rom of the same, that way we can always use the older RUU's to s-on if we need it.

I successfully downgraded my rooted/S-OFF'd phone to an earlier ROM last night. I simply followed this method - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832503
I'm of the firm belief that this is the onyl way to do it if you are at S-OFF. If you have S-OFF, then flashing an older RUU will probably brick your phone.

Well yesterday I perm root and s-off my european Desire Z with World/Euro generic 1.34.405.5. Somehow everything went bad after flashing recovery mode, so I decided to unroot it and bring it back to original settings.
I found there are 2 methods, one is to run the original ruu, and the other one was to copy the exact World/Euro generic 1.34.405.5 PC10img.zip to the root of my sd card.
Then entered to bootloader, and the phone recognize the archive, I simply apply it, and now I am back again to original stock.
However now I tried again and I am happily root, and S-Off following the amazing gtrab guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777)

buzmay said:
I found there are 2 methods, one is to run the original ruu, and the other one was to copy the exact World/Euro generic 1.34.405.5 PC10img.zip to the root of my sd card.
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That's the thing I keep saying though, flashing the original RUU worked for you because you weren't trying to downgrade the ROM, it was the same version that you already had on (just S-OFF etc). If you had a later version on your phone (e.g. via an OTA update) and were trying to flash to an earlier one, you would have bricked it trying the straight RUU method.

So what should be done is download and install an RUU - say 1.234.987, so you're on 1.234.987 - then root / S-OFF / custom ROM the phone. If anything goes wrong, reinstall the 1.234.987 RUU.
By the way - that's a fake RUU

DanWilson said:
So what should be done is download and install an RUU - say 1.234.987, so you're on 1.234.987 - then root / S-OFF / custom ROM the phone. If anything goes wrong, reinstall the 1.234.987 RUU.
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During that process, if the stock HBOOT/recovery that is installed by that RUU decides that what you're trying to flash is "older" than your custom ROM, you're screwed though. That's why the "debranding" guide has extra steps in it, i.e. gold card and editing the misc partition.

steviewevie said:
During that process, if the stock HBOOT/recovery that is installed by that RUU decides that what you're trying to flash is "older" than your custom ROM, you're screwed though. That's why the "debranding" guide has extra steps in it, i.e. gold card and editing the misc partition.
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I hate HTC.
Love the phones, love the Sense, hate the security.
Why not give us a command like the N1? WHY!?
So you should backup the system partition before S-OFF and so on? Like so a dd? (Following on from previous post)

DanWilson said:
So you should backup the system partition before S-OFF and so on? Like so a dd? (Following on from previous post)
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The system partition isn't changed in S-OFF, that's the boot partition (just allows writing to the system partition).
The gold card and editing of the misc partition should work fine, as per this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832503
It worked for me last night to flash to an older stock ROM (which also gave me S-ON again, removing my S-OFF).

steviewevie said:
The system partition isn't changed in S-OFF, that's the boot partition (just allows writing to the system partition).
The gold card and editing of the misc partition should work fine, as per this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832503
It worked for me last night to flash to an older stock ROM (which also gave me S-ON again, removing my S-OFF).
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Cool. Confused. I believe you though.
But you are saying just to make a gold card, and edit the misc partition?
Nice

DanWilson said:
Cool. Confused. I believe you though.
But you are saying just to make a gold card, and edit the misc partition?
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Following that guide that I linked worked for me. Yes, I turned my SD card into a gold card and edited the misc partition. Then it is fooled into thinking you're restoring a ROM of the same version that it already is running, so it lets you do it.
Actually, I do wonder whether both steps are necessary (i.e. gold card *and* editing misc), because I thought the whole point of the gold card was that it avoided those checks, so perhaps you can do one or the other ? I am only thinking out loud here, and may well be missing something, so I don't suggest trying it other than as in that guide.

[Q] Unroot for Warranty Repair

I need to send my Mytouch 4g in for repair due to an issue with "limited service" problems. Both T-Mobile and HTC said it is a rare problem and it needs to come in for repair.
My problem is that my phone is/has been rooted. I need to COMPLETELY UNROOT it before sending it in, or they will not repair/replace.
What can I do to completely unroot so they will not know that it was ever rooted?
I have run the unlockr method with the PD15IMG but Im not sure that is it. What else can do to see that it was rooted? Is there anything other than info in the bootloader? I turned the S-On again.
PS - the issue with my phone is when i put in my SIM card (under any rom, including stock) it comes back with a message saying "limited service" and i cannot do anything to fix it. If you have an answer for this too, that would be helpful.
Either way I dont want to lost this phone due to root/warranty problems.
Thanks ahead of time....

How did you root it? Did you use gfree and simunlock? Did you flash engineering hboot? Did you S-OFF? Did you flash custom images?
There are a lot of questions to answer in what to undo.
If you SIM/Super CID unlocked and radio S-OFF with gfree then you need to follow the instructions in the gfree thread on how to restore your part7 backup.
If you flashed the engineering hboot, again, follow info in the gfree thread on how to flash it back to stock.
Once you are back to normal hboot and S-ON, just loading the PD15IMG for the complete OTA (find the thread in the dev section) will factory wipe and clear the rest for you.

Thanks for the quick reply. I followed the unlockr method completely to gain root.
theunlockr.com/2010/12/10/how-to-gain-permanent-root-and-s-off-on-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-htc-glacier/
Then I installed Iced Glacier.
I also did their unroot method which includes flashing the PD15IMG and turning the S-On. Normally, should I receive an OTA after flashing this? Or is this THE updated image?
If is should expect an OTA, I will not get it. The reason i need to send the phone in is because i do not get service with the SIM card in. It reads "Limited service" "Emergency Calls Only". In this case, i would not recieve an OTA. Is there anything else I can do?
Thanks again.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Scroll down to "follow these steps to restore stock hboot (0.86.0000) and flash that back on if you have not already.
If you flashed the PD15IMG from this thread then it already has the OTA updated applied and you should be g2g.

Thank you very much. That is a huge help.
After updating the HBoot and flashing the PD15IMG we should be back to stock.
Is there any way after that HTC will see it as previously rooted?
I thought to myself that the hackers were smarter than the developers.... Im glad I was right.
Thanks again.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

pnut22r said:
Is there any way after that HTC will see it as previously rooted?
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With S-ON, a stock hboot, and a fresh flash of the OTA image -- no, not to my knowledge.

Ok so I am expecting to receive a replacement for the BAD SCREEN (inferior) issue. So preparing to get my phone to STOCK condition.
--------PRESENT STATE----------
Rooted - using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021
S=OFF
Radio - 26.09.04.26
ROM - Nexus AOSP 1.2.7
Recovery - 3.0.2.4
----------STOCK STATE------------
Unroot - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924923
S=ON
Radio - 26.03.02.26 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059347
Recovery - ????
Now I kind of know where I need to be at but I am not sure of the sequence of the steps. Also, how do I get back to stock recovery from Clockwork?
Is there a good check list of things to make sure before sending back the old phone?
thanks a lot.

for unroot
download stock rom from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901477
rename it PD15IMG.zip and put it in the root of your sdcard not in a folder
go into hboot by powering off then hold VOL DOWN+POWER
then it will automatically check to find PD15IMG.zip when it ask for update click yes
wait for it to install done stock unroot

Thanks for your reponse. I was aware of that method and was planning on using it. Does that also take care of clockwork recovery and updated radio?

stock hboot (0.85.0005) ignores S-OFF?

Hi all,
today i discovered something strange and i like to get your opinion on that:
I am not able to do s-off things in fastboot even if i have s-off!
Situation:
Phone: Desire Z
HBOOT: stock 0.85.0005
FW: 1.34..
Rooted: did root, supercid and s-off via gfree and verified via gfree_verify - even hboot showes up S-OFF
ROM: GingerVillain 1.5
Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.0.5
Problem:
First of all, i myself have no problem, but i started experimenting after a friend semi-bricked his desire z with same setup.
I did a nandroid backup and when i boot into hboot and do a 'fastboot flash recovery recovery.img' (with my nandroid recovery.img) i always get a remote: not allowed.
Now from my point of view this should only happen if I have a S-ON and should be impossible with S-OFF ?! Even using 'fastboot oem rebootRUU' does not change anything.
The thing that concerns me about that is: If something destroys both system and recovery, your pretty much screwed + bricked because hboot is not allowed to write to something other then cache and all of this basic stuff doesn't work:
- flash recovery with CW
- flash a complete zip
- flash an other hboot
- RUU
When I rooted my phone i have read everywhere that eng-hboots are not necessary any longer. But it appears that they are the only thing that helps and you have to install them as long as you have a working ROM.
Any thoughts on that issue / can you reproduce this / are fastboot actions logged anywhere?

You need a ENG. HBoot to use fastboot commands, doesn't matter if your s-off.

yeah, i came to the same conclusion..
is there any chance to flash a eng-hboot from a bricked 0.85.0005? i did some experimentation with a goldcard, but at least remote commands didn't change in behaviour..
I think being full-bricked when something goes wrong and not having an eng-hboot already installed is not an acceptable solution for most people here

DragonTEC said:
yeah, i came to the same conclusion..
is there any chance to flash a eng-hboot from a bricked 0.85.0005?
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maybe thru a modified PC10IMG.zip
I think being full-bricked when something goes wrong and not having an eng-hboot already installed is not an acceptable solution for most people here
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My thoughts exactly, its kind of a safety if you can't boot into android.

i'm not sure if a PC10IMG.zip will help at all.. my friend tried flashing both 1.34 and 1.72 RUU ROMs as PC10IMG and this didn't change anything.. in fact, the 1.72 even didn' install the new .00008 hbott, so i thing there is some heavy write protection in the hboot making it more or less useless..
what i can imagine that works is aa gokldcard with sppimg.zip, but i haven't yet found one for the desire z..
i have the feeling that this is a huge problem because with a short research i have found at least 3 threads of people having bricked their phone exactly this way and are now stuck.. some of the experts here might pay attention to this problem and in my opinion you should also consider removing the 'a eng-hboot is not needed, don't use it' advice from the rooting section of the wiki..

So what exactly is your problem.
You destroyed recovery and system?
If yes, and you used gfree to get Super-CID just install an PC10IMG that has a version higher or equal to the main version in you misc partition. And then do the whole downgrading, rooting, flashing recovery again.
If you are not Super-CID you might need a goldcard in addition if the CID of the phone is not supported by the PC10IMG that you whant to install.
have fun Guhl
It is almost impossible to brick this phone. The only possible way might be a failed copy of the eng-hboot and this is why the warning is and stays in the wiki.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

I thought so, too, but when flashing a newer original RUU using the PC10IMG.zip, the flash process runs okay, but after the restart nothing (still hangs in HTC screen, no new hboot) changes so apparently no changes are made..
So from my point of view the phone is more or less bricked.. i guess maybe some custome PC10IMG with an eng-hboot might change this, but i only found one for the G2 and wasn't able to find one for the DZ.. Thats why I thing that removing the 'UNNECESSARY' advice is justified (of course i don't want the warning advice that this can brick the phone to be removed)..

Noob Qustions about Rooting

I'm new at this so i got all these noob qustions
First my DHD have built 2.42 with Arabic Regional Support ?
so
Do i need A Gold card ?
How do i know if my phone is S-Off or Not ??
What the best way to S-Off , Radio S-Off or Eng S-Off ?
When i downgrade will i loss my stock ROM ?
or i'll lose it at S-Off or rooting ?
Can i backup my stock ROM before i start rooting?

Rooting can mean radio off or/and eng off. Refer to desire HD development for rooting. Different build requires different ways to root.
Gold card, you will need one if your downgrading a branded phone. Branded phone includes any network locked phones and also unlocked phones. Even if you buy your phone out right from somewhere, there's still a big chance that it was locked previously. You will know when it says incorrect CID when your downgrade in bootloader.
Either radio or eng off allows you to flash any custom ROM, for beginners its recommended to have radio as its easier, while enthusiast have eng off, but most of the time, both. However to flash a radio, the recommended way is to have both off
The question about backing up your current ROM. After you root, go download a recovery app namely ROM manager which lets you back up your current ROM, meaning you can restore your stock ROM anytime you want. Hope that clears up a bit.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App

You only need a goldcard if your dhd is network branded.
If you havent done anything to it yet it will have S-on
All the information you need is in the first post of this thread Link
If you downgrade it you will get a clean stock rom, losing all the data you havent backed up eg contacts, apps, app data. Anything on your sd card will be unaffected and you can use mybackup (30 Day Trial/Full Version/Root Version) to backup you data (but not app data because you dont have root).
Root your phone and use the root version (also free) to restore the backup. It restores with one click but the non-root versions need you to confirm each app installation.

First i'd like to thank u for ur reply , its very helpful
So i got this facts now, Correct me if i'm wrong
1- The best is to have both Radio and Eng S-off
2- I only need Gold Card if get incorrect CID
3- Downgrade , S-off and Rooting , wont replace my Stock ROM and i can back it up
Using ROM manager
4- I can backup my Info Using mybackup
Is this information correct ?

Hi,
i used TiTanium backup after a temp root and this very good guide in Desire HD dev topic:
[GUIDE] How to downgrade 1.7x/1.8x/2.x to 1.32.405.6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
Brgs,
Herold

miahegypt said:
First i'd like to thank u for ur reply , its very helpful
So i got this facts now, Correct me if i'm wrong
1- The best is to have both Radio and Eng S-off
2- I only need Gold Card if get incorrect CID
3- Downgrade , S-off and Rooting , wont replace my Stock ROM and i can back it up
Using ROM manager
4- I can backup my Info Using mybackup
Is this information correct ?
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That is correct. But if you have to choose between eng off or radio off, radio off is a better choice because it's more permanent. You can still remove it whenever you want
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App

miahegypt said:
3- Downgrade , S-off and Rooting , wont replace my Stock ROM and i can back it up
Using ROM manager
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i think downgrading does replace your stock rom, just with another stock rom. but it'll be like a brand new phone out of the box after you downgrade, everything will be wiped.
i did the downgrade using the link posted above, and i didn't realise it would do that. I thought i could downgrade, root, back up, flash rom, restore. turns out i should've backed up before downgrade.

maatsby said:
i think downgrading does replace your stock rom, just with another stock rom. but it'll be like a brand new phone out of the box after you downgrade, everything will be wiped.
i did the downgrade using the link posted above, and i didn't realise it would do that. I thought i could downgrade, root, back up, flash rom, restore. turns out i should've backed up before downgrade.
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after you have downgraded, you could always do an OTA update. so essentially its still the stock ROM that your phone came with.
miahegypt said:
How do i know if my phone is S-Off or Not ??
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you also asked this, please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193483

becoolboy said:
after you have downgraded, you could always do an OTA update. so essentially its still the stock ROM that your phone came with.
If i did OTA Update after Downgrading , S-Off then Rooting , will i have to do this all over again
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miahegypt said:
If i did OTA Update after Downgrading , S-Off then Rooting , will i have to do this all over again
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only the rooting part

miahegypt said:
becoolboy said:
after you have downgraded, you could always do an OTA update. so essentially its still the stock ROM that your phone came with.
If i did OTA Update after Downgrading , S-Off then Rooting , will i have to do this all over again
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If your radio off, no, you don't have to root again. Radio off is one of the most permanent thing you can do to your phone. However you can still radio off anytime you want.
However, if your only eng off, you might have to, depending on what version of bootloader you upgraded to.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App
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becoolboy said:
miahegypt said:
If your radio off, no, you don't have to root again. Radio off is one of the most permanent thing you can do to your phone. However you can still radio off anytime you want.
However, if your only eng off, you might have to, depending on what version of bootloader you upgraded to.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App
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Seems Like Radio S-off is the best choice , thanks a lot
i'l try to write the steps i got from all of that
i need to be organized so i won't make a deadly mistake and brick my brand new DHD
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miahegypt said:
becoolboy said:
Seems Like Radio S-off is the best choice , thanks a lot
i'l try to write the steps i got from all of that
i need to be organized so i won't make a deadly mistake and brick my brand new DHD
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Haha yea that might be a smart thing to do. But I don't think it's that easy to brick a phone. You have to either utterly retarded or very unlucky.
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OK now i think i got all the information i need for rooting my phone
I'll Write it Down to make sure that every thing will work ok
1- I'll backup my Contacts , Data , apps and my apps information using mybackup
2- Create A Gold Card using Steps in this link
3- Copy PD98IMG to my newly made goldcard
4- With My DHD plugged into my computer; on the device, i'll go into:
Settings > Applications > Development ; Check on "USB Debugging",
then exit back to the main screen
5- Start to Downgrade my DHD Using instruction in this Guide
6- Root my Device Using this Guide
7- Radio S-off my DHD using this Guide
9- ENG S-off my DHD using this Guide
10- I'll Do OTA Update to update to my latest Stock ROM
11- Use ROM manager to backup my stock ROM
Finally i backed up my data and my stock ROM and i'm ready to flash Custom ROM for my DHD
I hope these steps are right , Can some on confirm it ?

miahegypt said:
OK now i think i got all the information i need for rooting my phone
I'll Write it Down to make sure that every thing will work ok
1- I'll backup my Contacts , Data , apps and my apps information using mybackup
2- Create A Gold Card using Steps in this link
3- Copy PD98IMG to my newly made goldcard
4- With My DHD plugged into my computer; on the device, i'll go into:
Settings > Applications > Development ; Check on "USB Debugging",
then exit back to the main screen
5- Start to Downgrade my DHD Using instruction in this Guide
6- Root my Device Using this Guide
7- Radio S-off my DHD using this Guide
9- ENG S-off my DHD using this Guide
10- I'll Do OTA Update to update to my latest Stock ROM
11- Use ROM manager to backup my stock ROM
Finally i backed up my data and my stock ROM and i'm ready to flash Custom ROM for my DHD
I hope these steps are right , Can some on confirm it ?
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Comments on your steps.
1. i havent actually personally tried mybackup. but you do realise restoring apps and data from your stock to a custom ROM is different than restoring it onto a stock RUU, simply because custom ROMs might run slightly different. but by all means, try it. i am sure thats not enough to break your phone. you might have to redownload some of the apps tho.
another interesting thing to add is, gmail syncs your contact your email. after a fresh flash, all you have to do is resync. it doesnt give back your msges tho.
3. format your sdcard to fat32. this is important because larger sd cards default format cant be read by bootloader.
6. rooting can be divided into 2 types, eng-off and radio-off. what your doing here is an eng off procedure. skip step 9 all together.
7. make sure you radio off since you will be updating to OTA. some OTA breaks eng off, but radio off would still remain.
10. you might have to eng off (radio off would remain) again if you do an OTA update. i suggest moving step 6 after step 11
keep us posted on your status. good luck.

becoolboy said:
Comments on your steps.
1. i havent actually personally tried mybackup. but you do realise restoring apps and data from your stock to a custom ROM is different than restoring it onto a stock RUU, simply because custom ROMs might run slightly different. but by all means, try it. i am sure thats not enough to break your phone. you might have to redownload some of the apps tho.
another interesting thing to add is, gmail syncs your contact your email. after a fresh flash, all you have to do is resync. it doesnt give back your msges tho.
3. format your sdcard to fat32. this is important because larger sd cards default format cant be read by bootloader.
6. rooting can be divided into 2 types, eng-off and radio-off. what your doing here is an eng off procedure. skip step 9 all together.
7. make sure you radio off since you will be updating to OTA. some OTA breaks eng off, but radio off would still remain.
10. you might have to eng off (radio off would remain) again if you do an OTA update. i suggest moving step 6 after step 11
keep us posted on your status. good luck.
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thanks a lot for u help
1- that not a big issue for me , i might skip it
3- i got this part it's in making gold card Guide
6- Then this guide Eng S-off the device , did i got that right ?
7- I got this one and i know i'll lose Eng S-off , all i need is to backup my stock ROM , then i might Eng s-off again
10- i don't get this one , can i use Rom manager before rooting ? how can i backup my ROM without rooting ? or do u mean moving step 6 after step 10 not 11 ?

miahegypt said:
thanks a lot for u help
1- that not a big issue for me , i might skip it
3- i got this part it's in making gold card Guide
6- Then this guide Eng S-off the device , did i got that right ?
7- I got this one and i know i'll lose Eng S-off , all i need is to backup my stock ROM , then i might Eng s-off again
10- i don't get this one , can i use Rom manager before rooting ? how can i backup my ROM without rooting ? or do u mean moving step 6 after step 10 not 11 ?
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6. yup, that guide gives you eng off and proceed to step 7 to radio off. skip 9 since its the same as step 6
10. oops, sorry my bad, i meant move it after 10. but it doesnt matter really, since you have radio off (the permanent one), you can even backup stock ROM before you try to eng off. remember, radio off is also one kind of rooting and its 'permanent'

becoolboy said:
6. yup, that guide gives you eng off and proceed to step 7 to radio off. skip 9 since its the same as step 6
10. oops, sorry my bad, i meant move it after 10. but it doesnt matter really, since you have radio off (the permanent one), you can even backup stock ROM before you try to eng off. remember, radio off is also one kind of rooting and its 'permanent'
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thanks a lot u have been very helpful
i'v found a much much simpler guide here
it's mostly automated and very organized
what do u think ?

Looks good. But I can't personally vouch for it since i never use his frevo toolkit before. But from what I can guess it's just automated script to run adb commands. So it should be safe. I say go ahead and enjoy rooting and flashing and tweaking and so on.
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Depois de ROOT
Staff follow procedures for downgrade, I performed the root, did s-off, has to generate the GoldCard and applied correctly, now I have 2.2 Froyo routed everything right. Room Manager installed, I tried to install many more roms on the device restarts q always falls on a screen with a red exclamation warning. What remains to be done? What went wrong? I have to update the Froyo 2.2 for Ginger? if so? how? help! Thank you!