Its only going to be a matter of time before people will need to send phones back under warranty for whatever reasons so a guide for unrooting will be needed.
Any takers?
G2 already has one, but obviously we will need different rom/hboot etc to go back to our stock.
Not just unrooting, but going completely back to stock, i.e. S-ON and stock ROM.
As you say, we should be able to base it on this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835971
Although we have several different stock ROMs, e.g. European, Asian, Vodafone UK, etc.
this is already covered in the FAQ (easy tutorial @ dev forum)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9143411&postcount=2
gtrab said:
this is already covered in the FAQ (easy tutorial @ dev forum)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9143411&postcount=2
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That just says to use Visionary to turn off rooting. Or did I miss something ?
As I said, I think we need to cover how to return a phone completely to stock, and I don't think it includes all that you'd really need to do, or if you didn't use Visionary in the first place, e.g. the kind of stuff in the G2 post that I linked.
steviewevie said:
That just says to use Visionary to turn off rooting. Or did I miss something ?
As I said, I think we need to cover how to return a phone completely to stock, and I don't think it includes all that you'd really need to do, or if you didn't use Visionary in the first place, e.g. the kind of stuff in the G2 post that I linked.
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It does say to flash an RUU to S-ON which in the past I would have said would work, but seeing how the G2 forums are not suggesting that its that simple my guess would be that its not that simple.
I had to flash the PC10img thing taken from the stock ROM to restore root and s-on. But no idea how to extract that PC10img thing, not that I have looked into it either.
That info was from one of the guides in the dev section I'm sure.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
What might work now will probably not work once an OTA update comes out for the DZ though, as per the problem on the G2 they've had which has led to quite a few semi-bricks (possibly full bricks in some cases ?).
Done some research, it would seem that flashing an RUU would work fine for those of us already rooted, if an OTA were to come out those who rooted after the OTA would have issues unless an RUU for the same OTA was released as well. (this is basically because the RUU's currently available will be older than the software the phone is on so the RUU would fail leaving you with a semi-bricked phone as described above, basically it would flash stock hboot and recovery then fail to flash the /system so you would be left with no root or recovery and no rom.
Flashing the ruu would give rise to accepting the OTA too, if you really wanted to do that, but it might block root.
you just need the RUU for your correct original phone version
OR use a gold card
eg. I have debranded mine from bell NAM 1.34.666.5 to euro generic 1.34.405.5
To go back to stock, I can:
1.- grab the bell 1.34.666.1 RUU (its slightly previous, but is the correct original version for my phone)
OR
2.- run the euro generic 1.34.405.5 with a golcard inserted
gtrab said:
you just need the RUU for your correct original phone version
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Isn't that dangerous though once we get any OTAs, and could lead to this ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484
Or am I missing something ?
steviewevie said:
Isn't that dangerous though once we get any OTAs, and could lead to this ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484
Or am I missing something ?
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Yes thats what I was getting at in my post above, any RUU you flash needs to be of the same or newer version of what your previously flashing. You cannot GoldCard to flash an RUU to S-ON or you get left with the semi-brick where you have stock recovery and hboot, but no rom installed.
So if an OTA comes out, you can't accept it, s-off then use an older RUU to s-on again. You would have to flash an RUU of that OTA version (if one is released).
Basically its best to not accept any OTA if you can avoid it and just wait for a custom rom of the same, that way we can always use the older RUU's to s-on if we need it.
I successfully downgraded my rooted/S-OFF'd phone to an earlier ROM last night. I simply followed this method - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832503
I'm of the firm belief that this is the onyl way to do it if you are at S-OFF. If you have S-OFF, then flashing an older RUU will probably brick your phone.
Well yesterday I perm root and s-off my european Desire Z with World/Euro generic 1.34.405.5. Somehow everything went bad after flashing recovery mode, so I decided to unroot it and bring it back to original settings.
I found there are 2 methods, one is to run the original ruu, and the other one was to copy the exact World/Euro generic 1.34.405.5 PC10img.zip to the root of my sd card.
Then entered to bootloader, and the phone recognize the archive, I simply apply it, and now I am back again to original stock.
However now I tried again and I am happily root, and S-Off following the amazing gtrab guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777)
buzmay said:
I found there are 2 methods, one is to run the original ruu, and the other one was to copy the exact World/Euro generic 1.34.405.5 PC10img.zip to the root of my sd card.
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That's the thing I keep saying though, flashing the original RUU worked for you because you weren't trying to downgrade the ROM, it was the same version that you already had on (just S-OFF etc). If you had a later version on your phone (e.g. via an OTA update) and were trying to flash to an earlier one, you would have bricked it trying the straight RUU method.
So what should be done is download and install an RUU - say 1.234.987, so you're on 1.234.987 - then root / S-OFF / custom ROM the phone. If anything goes wrong, reinstall the 1.234.987 RUU.
By the way - that's a fake RUU
DanWilson said:
So what should be done is download and install an RUU - say 1.234.987, so you're on 1.234.987 - then root / S-OFF / custom ROM the phone. If anything goes wrong, reinstall the 1.234.987 RUU.
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During that process, if the stock HBOOT/recovery that is installed by that RUU decides that what you're trying to flash is "older" than your custom ROM, you're screwed though. That's why the "debranding" guide has extra steps in it, i.e. gold card and editing the misc partition.
steviewevie said:
During that process, if the stock HBOOT/recovery that is installed by that RUU decides that what you're trying to flash is "older" than your custom ROM, you're screwed though. That's why the "debranding" guide has extra steps in it, i.e. gold card and editing the misc partition.
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I hate HTC.
Love the phones, love the Sense, hate the security.
Why not give us a command like the N1? WHY!?
So you should backup the system partition before S-OFF and so on? Like so a dd? (Following on from previous post)
DanWilson said:
So you should backup the system partition before S-OFF and so on? Like so a dd? (Following on from previous post)
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The system partition isn't changed in S-OFF, that's the boot partition (just allows writing to the system partition).
The gold card and editing of the misc partition should work fine, as per this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832503
It worked for me last night to flash to an older stock ROM (which also gave me S-ON again, removing my S-OFF).
steviewevie said:
The system partition isn't changed in S-OFF, that's the boot partition (just allows writing to the system partition).
The gold card and editing of the misc partition should work fine, as per this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832503
It worked for me last night to flash to an older stock ROM (which also gave me S-ON again, removing my S-OFF).
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Cool. Confused. I believe you though.
But you are saying just to make a gold card, and edit the misc partition?
Nice
DanWilson said:
Cool. Confused. I believe you though.
But you are saying just to make a gold card, and edit the misc partition?
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Following that guide that I linked worked for me. Yes, I turned my SD card into a gold card and edited the misc partition. Then it is fooled into thinking you're restoring a ROM of the same version that it already is running, so it lets you do it.
Actually, I do wonder whether both steps are necessary (i.e. gold card *and* editing misc), because I thought the whole point of the gold card was that it avoided those checks, so perhaps you can do one or the other ? I am only thinking out loud here, and may well be missing something, so I don't suggest trying it other than as in that guide.
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I have searched and searched, tried every method, but I am offically stuck (I think) - I'm prepping a rooted Eris for return - i had previously been able to flash the 2.1 RUU to return to stock, but it now will not work - I guess somewhere along the lines of rooting/ROM flashing my bootloader has changed (it is now v1.49.000) - I can't get any RUU to work (get ERROR in RUU interface) - I have also tried flashing a P00IMG through HBOOT, but it also errors out (something is older than something else - forgot exactly) - I have tried flashing new HBOOT/Recovery Image through ADB per a JCASE post, but that will not work either - I've gotten older ROM's loaded that will allow for new OTA updates, but they ultimately will not work (signature issues i believe) -
So the question is, is there a method that will get me back to 2.1 "stock" & get rid of Amon Ra recovery?
Again, I have searched and tried every method I could find - I have updated my SDK - help anyone?
Ive seen people just send in rooted ones without any problem, so I dont know if they'll check. But if your worried, i would just flash a 2.1 rom that looks like the stock, cause i dont think they'll know the difference.
Do you have a Nandroid backup from when you first rooted?
crax0r said:
Do you have a Nandroid backup from when you first rooted?
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Unfortunately I don't have it - you wanna loan me yours?
I'm only kind of kidding....
download unzipme.zip which jcase removed on xda from here http://androidmobileos.com/?p=14928 Inside theres dowgrade rom that you flash through custom recovery (which ever one you use). After that you just follow the instructions (adb parts). Works very well. If you will have any issues with adb part as far as flashing back to stock recovery and hboot than check your hboot version and make sure its s-off. If its not you can get it s-off with batery pull trick.
i had an issue like this where the ruu would say that my phone was disconnected and told me to connect it to the computer,i was on a froyo rom,i flashed a 2.1 rom and the ruu worked,just an fyi just incase this might help if you want to return to stock 2.1,once you run the ruu and sync with google you wiil receive the july update also.
sent from my Eris using Tapatalk pro
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At the moment, sometimes current RUUs (ROM Update Utility) do not flash from the latest RUU exe - many times it will not recognise the Desire HD.
If you are having this problem, this is how to flash the latest stock RUU.
The latest RUU at the time of writing is 1.32.405.6.
You can download the RUUs from xmoo's thread or from mousey_'s site.
note: This is mainly for stock phones, for vendor-derived ones (e.g Vodafone DHDs in Australia) you will also need a goldcard.
Common Steps
Download the latest RUU (1.32.405.6).
Run it as administrator.
Tick the 'I understand the caution indicated above...' box, and click next.
At this point do not go any further.
Navigate to C:\Users\Ivo\AppData\Local\Temp (Replace my username with yours; AppData is a hidden folder)
You should see one or two folders like this:
{719CE201-7B12-4A13-9AF6-8F359FE69C7B}
Go into the one with dotnetinstaller.exe in it.
Open up the next folder.
Copy rom.zip into another folder (outside of temp).
At this point just Cancel and quit out of the ROM Update Utility.
A) Install through PC
Download and install HTC Sync 3.0 and restart.
Download the 1.15.405.1 Test RUU. It is the only one currently known to find the Android DHD.
Start it the same way as before, get to the
1. Connect the Smartphone to the USB Cable.
step. (but no further)
Again, go to the AppData local temp directory (same as above), and find the folder with dotnetinstaller.exe and inside that, rom.zip
You want to delete the rom.zip (which is the 1.15 version) and replace it with (copy back) the 1.32 rom.zip you copied out earler.
DO NOT UPDATE WITH 1.15 ROM, IT IS NOT DESIGNED FOR RETAIL DHDs.
Now click through the next buttons.
The 1.15 Utility should now be set to update with the 1.32 rom. You will see the version number of the rom at the final step.
Click update and watch the magic happen
B) or Install through Phone
With the rom.zip you copied out earlier, rename it PD98IMG.zip
Copy this onto the root of your microSD card through some means (disk drive, ftp, wireless).
Restart your phone and boot into the bootloader by holding power and volume down at the same time as it restarts.
It should go into the bootloader, take a fair while to check the zip on the sd card, and then ask you if you want to flash it.
Say yes!
Hope this can help some people for whom the 1.32 RUUs aren't working for them
Thanks for putting up this post! I was about to request one last night.
Now if only there could be a similar guide to flashing custom ROMs
To force unroot, I could reinstall RUU 1.32.405.6 from Win7 without problems, a bit longer than updating/reinstalling a WinMo 6.5.x rom (my former HD2), but it went through...
Thanks Ivolol this worked a treat
Appreciate your guide and efforts.
I am running Win 7 64. folowed 1.15 method now running latest 1.32.405.6
Howling Wolf said:
To force unroot, I could reinstall RUU 1.32.405.6 from Win7 without problems, a bit longer than updating/reinstalling a WinMo 6.5.x rom (my former HD2), but it went through...
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Weird; I tested a couple of RUUs (not as many as xmoo did) and all of them couldn't connect to my phone (whereas 1.15 could).
It'd be interesting to find out what the factors are that cause this. ATM the guide above is what to do if someone finds themselves in the same situation (the current ROMs won't find the phone).
Howling Wolf said:
To force unroot, I could reinstall RUU 1.32.405.6 from Win7 without problems.
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+1 here, went through the normal RUU process fine just for ****s and giggles. I've extracted the ROM.zip though in case it's needed for future use.
sorry for the noob question..just had my DHD for the last 5 days. I come from galaxy S, and in there whenever we flash a rom all the data gets wiped out.
is it true also when we flash a RUU??
also if I do that...would i still be able to get OTA updates??
nandihno said:
sorry for the noob question..just had my DHD for the last 5 days. I come from galaxy S, and in there whenever we flash a rom all the data gets wiped out.
is it true also when we flash a RUU??
also if I do that...would i still be able to get OTA updates??
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I haven't got complete knowledge of the entire subject yet, but:
a RUU will completely wipe all user settings / apps. Won't do anything to the sd card though.
An update.zip is akin to an OTA update, it does not wipe user settings.
Flashing with a stock RUU will mean that you can still get OTA updates.
I've tried using the phone method and unable to flash successful. I believe you need a valid GoldCard to use this method.
Can you confirm if the GoldCard is required for doing it with the phone method?
In addition, once the unit (especially our Voda branded one) is flashed with the latest ROM, OTA may not run properly which will result in disabled functionality (as recorded in this thread: forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1575514, wifi stopped working). Theory said you'll need a GoldCard to get OTA to work properly (from another thread in XDA).
Thanks.
Great Guide thank you very much. Now i know to flash back to stock now if something gose wrong as iam a noob to android it took some time to work it out even tho it is a simple guide now i wanna know after getting perm root how do i flash a custom rom ? do i need clockwork mod?
tleehm said:
I've tried using the phone method and unable to flash successful. I believe you need a valid GoldCard to use this method.
Can you confirm if the GoldCard is required for doing it with the phone method?
In addition, once the unit (especially our Voda branded one) is flashed with the latest ROM, OTA may not run properly which will result in disabled functionality (as recorded in this thread: forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1575514, wifi stopped working). Theory said you'll need a GoldCard to get OTA to work properly (from another thread in XDA).
Thanks.
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There is a big reason I decided to buy my DHD outright and not through Vodafone
I'm pretty sure that Vodafone's OTAs will be different from HTC's. In order to get OTAs from Vodafone you will need their image on it.
Also with vodafone's ROM installed, I wouldn't think it would accept HTC's vanilla ROM/RUU without going through the entire root process (it would only accept Vodafone signed ROMs). So in order to get onto HTC's ROMs I would think you need to follow http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841076 before the phone will let you run a HTC RUU on it.
I haven't explored goldcards as I personally have no use for one, but you might also need one by the sounds of it for the Vodafone ROM to let you replace it. (edit: yes it looks like you need one to officially flash from a Vendor ROM to a generic one.)
So this guide is mainly for people with vanilla HTC phones. Although someone has posted a stock rooted Vodafone ROM on the phones so you might be able to use the same techniques outlined here with that.
ssimmmo said:
Great Guide thank you very much. Now i know to flash back to stock now if something gose wrong as iam a noob to android it took some time to work it out even tho it is a simple guide now i wanna know after getting perm root how do i flash a custom rom ? do i need clockwork mod?
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clockwork mod is useful but not entirely necessary. You might be able to use this guide's method to flash a custom ROM onto it (haven't tried yet), but otherwise I think what you need is a recovery img that will let you upload custom/unsigned ROMs onto it. And also S-OFF I imagine.
ok so i have S-OFF and clockwork mod recovery...
if i have the rom.zip and rename it to PD98IMG.zip and run bootloader.
i shouldnt have any problems flashing this rom??
BTW am using Aus branded Vodafone HDH.
also..IF i flash this rom..would i loose S-Off and clockwork recovery mod??
would flashing this allow me to gain OTA???
nandihno said:
ok so i have S-OFF and clockwork mod recovery...
if i have the rom.zip and rename it to PD98IMG.zip and run bootloader.
i shouldnt have any problems flashing this rom??
BTW am using Aus branded Vodafone HDH.
also..IF i flash this rom..would i loose S-Off and clockwork recovery mod??
would flashing this allow me to gain OTA???
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If you flash a stock RUU rom.zip then you will loose all custom apps, data, s-off, recovery, etc. It puts it to factory settings. If you are in the business of flashing ROMs then I wouldn't worry about OTA because the developers here will integrate HTC updates as they come out, if they come out
However yes I think if you flashed a stock RUU then you will be able to get OTA. You might still need a goldcard, I'm not exactly sure.
ivolol said:
mod: If this should be in DHD General, please move it
At the moment, sometimes current RUUs (ROM Update Utility) do not flash from the latest RUU exe - many times it will not recognise the Desire HD.
If you are having this problem, this is how to flash the latest stock RUU.
The latest RUU at the time of writing is 1.32.405.6.
You can download the RUUs from xmoo's thread or from mousey_'s site.
note: This is mainly for stock phones, for vendor-derived ones (e.g Vodafone DHDs in Australia) you will also need a goldcard.
Common Steps
Download the latest RUU (1.32.405.6).
Run it as administrator.
Tick the 'I understand the caution indicated above...' box, and click next.
At this point do not go any further.
Navigate to C:\Users\Ivo\AppData\Local\Temp (Replace my username with yours; AppData is a hidden folder)
You should see one or two folders like this:
{719CE201-7B12-4A13-9AF6-8F359FE69C7B}
Go into the one with dotnetinstaller.exe in it.
Open up the next folder.
Copy rom.zip into another folder (outside of temp).
At this point just Cancel and quit out of the ROM Update Utility.
A) Install through PC
Download and install HTC Sync 3.0 and restart.
Download the 1.15.405.1 Test RUU. It is the only one currently known to find the Android DHD.
Start it the same way as before, get to the
1. Connect the Smartphone to the USB Cable.
step. (but no further)
Again, go to the AppData local temp directory (same as above), and find the folder with dotnetinstaller.exe and inside that, rom.zip
You want to delete the rom.zip (which is the 1.15 version) and replace it with (copy back) the 1.32 rom.zip you copied out earler.
DO NOT UPDATE WITH 1.15 ROM, IT IS NOT DESIGNED FOR RETAIL DHDs.
Now click through the next buttons.
The 1.15 Utility should now be set to update with the 1.32 rom. You will see the version number of the rom at the final step.
Click update and watch the magic happen
B) or Install through Phone
With the rom.zip you copied out earlier, rename it PD98IMG.zip
Copy this onto the root of your microSD card through some means (disk drive, ftp, wireless).
Restart your phone and boot into the bootloader by holding power and volume down at the same time as it restarts.
It should go into the bootloader, take a fair while to check the zip on the sd card, and then ask you if you want to flash it.
Say yes!
Hope this can help some people for whom the 1.32 RUUs aren't working for them
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As I am Newbie of Android and I have noob quesitons. Could you please explain what is RUU and use this for what purpose?
Yeah. I got a goldcard inside of my phone but the bootloader doesn't recognize the P98IMG on my sdcard even though its there for sure. No idea how to fix this
Dr. lele said:
Yeah. I got a goldcard inside of my phone but the bootloader doesn't recognize the P98IMG on my sdcard even though its there for sure. No idea how to fix this
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How big is ur sd-card, and also what brand. Sometimes this is also a issue....
It's a kingston 8 gb class 4, but thanks for the tipp, I'll try another.
Yep, it was the sdcard xD. It's updating as I type
Carnt I just use the updater on the pc with the Rom? I have tried the method and I don't see a Rom file just a data1 file which is a ear file. I really would like stock ROM on my device
edit: i just used the exe and it installed perfect, so now it should be stock with no root,and sn
cxeka7 said:
As I am Newbie of Android and I have noob quesitons. Could you please explain what is RUU and use this for what purpose?
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An RUU is an exe which contains the stock 'firmware' from HTC to flash to your device. Basically it will do a full factory reset of your device. It won't wipe your sdcard but it will overwrite everything else.
it didnt asked me for anything on option B) or Install through Phone. i didnt get the option to flash it.
Right now, the previous rage/Visionary rooting methods do *not* work with the latest 1.72 ROMs for the Desire Z.
UPDATE - If you have upgraded to 1.72 already without S-OFF, then a temp root has been achieved for 1.72, which gives you the capability to downgrade to an earlier ROM (e.g. 1.34) where you can permanent root. The "psneuter" procedure is at via this procedure - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261
UPDATE 2 - This "psneuter" procedure can be used to achieve permanent root. If you obtain S-OFF at an earlier ROM level, *then* update to 1.72, you can get permaroot with psneuter, then use the usual methods to lock this in as a permanent root. This is because the S-OFF means the NAND write protection will not be enabled. If you are already at 1.72 without S-OFF, you will have to downgrade, obtain S-OFF, then upgrade again.
This ROM version is being rolled out as an OTA update to European DZ users. So far it doesn't seem to have been rolled out to other DZ carriers, e.g. Bell, Vodafone, though I suspect that it is only a matter of time.
This update does not *yet* affect the G2 running the stock T-Mobile ROM, though again I suspect this update will make its way to the G2 in time (so you might wish to turn off automatic checks for updates if you want to avoid the possibility).
This is an example of what is in the warning thread at the top of the forum, i.e. don't upgrade to this until we know how you can root it, assuming you are interested in root (which I think most, though not all, people here are).
I've tried all kinds of stuff but nothing works.
I've even made a goldcard with a PC10IMG.zip (rom extracted from RUU) but it gives me an error: MAIN VERSION OLD
So flashing back to an older version.............forget it!!
RUU, Visionary and Gfree method will not work with this stupid update!
Does anyone know what's in the 1.72 release that we're missing ? (And therefore whether its worth S-On & de-rooting)
Ramsfan_Jim said:
Does anyone know what's in the 1.72 release that we're missing ? (And therefore whether its worth S-On & de-rooting)
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The Virtuous ROM includes all the stuff in 1.72 already. So there's no point derooting and going S-ON, just install Virtuous.
Sticky worthy untill a solution is found.
rmk40 already found a solution to rooting these newer builds, but it requires changes to the SuperUser app. He's submitted those to the author but there hasn't been a new version release yet.
Hm,I`m now on stock 1.34.405.5 Firmware (RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.5_Radio_12.28b.60.140e _26.03.02.26_M)
but rooted and S-OFF with UBERROOT method!
Now if I flashing this Firmware I still have S-OFF but I lose
Root and can`t Root again right?
The same happens if I trie this Root and S-OFF method and flashing
the new Firmware:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
If you are desperate to try it, nandroid backup, google "extract rom.zip from ruu" and install through recovery.
..sent from my CyanogenMod'd HTC Vision
That will not work. I've already tried it.
maus010 said:
That will not work. I've already tried it.
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Why not?
..sent from my CyanogenMod'd HTC Vision
Glad there is a dedicated thread for this. I have applied the OTA (stupid me... should have read this forum first) and am now looking forward to getting root again so i can do SetCPU to underclock when screen off..
I'm happy to do any testing for those who get anythin working.
Also noticed in this new ROM (OTA) that when i plug in my wall charger, it goes straight into "CAR PANEL"?!
When i use the official HTC cable it does not - but when using a mini USB cable + micro USB adapter, it goes straight into car mode.
Does this have the same issue if you just flash the radio?
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Why not?
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Because it gives me an error: MAIN VERSION OLD
So it wil not flash.
As long as you still have a custom recovery (i.e. Clockwork), I can help. See the thread I just created here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886999
If not, sorry I cannot help. Obtaining root again is for the black hats around here.
I wont root my DZ since setCPU profiles dont work.
rmk40 said:
As long as you still have a custom recovery (i.e. Clockwork), I can help. See the thread I just created here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886999
If not, sorry I cannot help. Obtaining root again is for the black hats around here.
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Thanks for your help.
But the OTA update also flashed the bootloader and recovery back to stock.
The only thing positive with this update is the batterylife.
It hase improved bigtime!
Agree - battery seems heaps better.
Is anyone working on this? Got my DZ and subconsciously accepted.
Am now because I need to keep using the damn power button to wake it up!
zappoo said:
Also noticed in this new ROM (OTA) that when i plug in my wall charger, it goes straight into "CAR PANEL"?!
When i use the official HTC cable it does not - but when using a mini USB cable + micro USB adapter, it goes straight into car mode.
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There's a note in the manual for the DZ that says if you use an adapter it will think it's plugged into a car kit.
Hi guys,
I'd like to return my G2 to stock....completely stock and I have a few questions to make sure I'm doing this right (as I've heard that simply installing an officially signed ROM can screw things up).
Right now, I've done everything using the gfree method to get radio, s-off, and even the engineering hboot installed.
My question then becomes, should I follow the instructions as per wiki on returning to stock, or do I follow this guide?
My next question is then, is there anything specific that I should do first? Like remove hboot first, and then follow either of the above guides? And if I hve to remove hboot, how would I go about doing that (I tried searching, but I wasn't able to find anything).
If anyone could guide me on the matter, Id really appreciate it.
I'd like confirmation on the best and most up-to-date guide on this as well. Thanks
Just follow the guide that you linked to in your thread. You don't need to mess with hboot. As long as you follow the guide correctly you will overwrite the engineering hboot with the stock hboot.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.
Since you used gfree, you'll need to either restore the partition 7 backup or use gfree to S-ON and set your CID back.
Then follow something like the guide you linked to in order to flash the correct PC10IMG for your phone (as stated earlier, this will also get rid of your engineering HBOOT).
If you had one of the later phones that came with the OTA preinstalled, update your phone with it after the flash is done.
Format your SD card from your settings and then enter the bootloader one more time to do a factory rest.
You should then be completely back to how the phone was when you first got it (with the exception of subsidy unlock if you didn't have the original partition 7 backup from gfree---unlocking your phone is allowed by most carriers though, so shouldn't be a problem).
Thank you for that information. In which order do I do this? Restore the partition first (how would I do this?), or do I install the stock ROM first? Or...?
As you see, I'm confused as to the order of how I would go about doing this assuming I followed the gfree method through and through
Currently, I have an original nandroid backup through clockwerk. Would I "restore" that backup first in the recovery menu, followed by restoring the original gfree backup partition?
My biggest worry currently is that I can't put any stock rom on the phone due to the engineered hboot causing a booting loop problem (something I read on a sticky or something?)? Because based on the Wiki, I need to install the stock ROM first before reinstating the backup gfree partition.
Again, thank you everyone thus far for helping me out with my questions. I do hope that you guys can still answer my remaining questions!
ianmcquinn said:
Since you used gfree, you'll need to either restore the partition 7 backup or use gfree to S-ON and set your CID back.
Then follow something like the guide you linked to in order to flash the correct PC10IMG for your phone (as stated earlier, this will also get rid of your engineering HBOOT).
If you had one of the later phones that came with the OTA preinstalled, update your phone with it after the flash is done.
Format your SD card from your settings and then enter the bootloader one more time to do a factory rest.
You should then be completely back to how the phone was when you first got it (with the exception of subsidy unlock if you didn't have the original partition 7 backup from gfree---unlocking your phone is allowed by most carriers though, so shouldn't be a problem).
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Okay, thanks guys, I managed to return everything back to stock.
PoisonWolf said:
Thank you for that information. In which order do I do this? Restore the partition first (how would I do this?), or do I install the stock ROM first? Or...?
As you see, I'm confused as to the order of how I would go about doing this assuming I followed the gfree method through and through
Currently, I have an original nandroid backup through clockwerk. Would I "restore" that backup first in the recovery menu, followed by restoring the original gfree backup partition?
My biggest worry currently is that I can't put any stock rom on the phone due to the engineered hboot causing a booting loop problem (something I read on a sticky or something?)? Because based on the Wiki, I need to install the stock ROM first before reinstating the backup gfree partition.
Again, thank you everyone thus far for helping me out with my questions. I do hope that you guys can still answer my remaining questions!
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Hi!
My original guide how to go back to stock can be found here: http://www.thinkthinkdo.com/trac/project1/wiki/back_to_stock
It is absolutely up to date and i did this myself several times.
There is only one important prerequisite before you follow this guide: You need to be radio S-OFF before you start this.
The engineering-hboot only causes problems if you are not radio S-OFF. So if you used gfree to get radio S-OFF the eng-hboot will not be a problem.
There is no need to install the nandroid backup before you do this procedure.
have fun - Guhl
Thanks for that but I have successfully returned the phone to stock already
I just used my nandroid backup followed by manually setting the Cid back to tmob010. After that, I iinstalled the stock recovery and used the guide I linked earlier by starting at procedure 2.
In short, it was a very eclectic approach and I did what made sense to me. Lawl. It all worked out ok. Back to the good old hd2 for now
guhl99 said:
Hi!
My original guide how to go back to stock can be found here: http://www.thinkthinkdo.com/trac/project1/wiki/back_to_stock
It is absolutely up to date and i did this myself several times.
There is only one important prerequisite before you follow this guide: You need to be radio S-OFF before you start this.
The engineering-hboot only causes problems if you are not radio S-OFF. So if you used gfree to get radio S-OFF the eng-hboot will not be a problem.
There is no need to install the nandroid backup before you do this procedure.
have fun - Guhl
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Sent from my HD2
I'm new at this so i got all these noob qustions
First my DHD have built 2.42 with Arabic Regional Support ?
so
Do i need A Gold card ?
How do i know if my phone is S-Off or Not ??
What the best way to S-Off , Radio S-Off or Eng S-Off ?
When i downgrade will i loss my stock ROM ?
or i'll lose it at S-Off or rooting ?
Can i backup my stock ROM before i start rooting?
Rooting can mean radio off or/and eng off. Refer to desire HD development for rooting. Different build requires different ways to root.
Gold card, you will need one if your downgrading a branded phone. Branded phone includes any network locked phones and also unlocked phones. Even if you buy your phone out right from somewhere, there's still a big chance that it was locked previously. You will know when it says incorrect CID when your downgrade in bootloader.
Either radio or eng off allows you to flash any custom ROM, for beginners its recommended to have radio as its easier, while enthusiast have eng off, but most of the time, both. However to flash a radio, the recommended way is to have both off
The question about backing up your current ROM. After you root, go download a recovery app namely ROM manager which lets you back up your current ROM, meaning you can restore your stock ROM anytime you want. Hope that clears up a bit.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App
You only need a goldcard if your dhd is network branded.
If you havent done anything to it yet it will have S-on
All the information you need is in the first post of this thread Link
If you downgrade it you will get a clean stock rom, losing all the data you havent backed up eg contacts, apps, app data. Anything on your sd card will be unaffected and you can use mybackup (30 Day Trial/Full Version/Root Version) to backup you data (but not app data because you dont have root).
Root your phone and use the root version (also free) to restore the backup. It restores with one click but the non-root versions need you to confirm each app installation.
First i'd like to thank u for ur reply , its very helpful
So i got this facts now, Correct me if i'm wrong
1- The best is to have both Radio and Eng S-off
2- I only need Gold Card if get incorrect CID
3- Downgrade , S-off and Rooting , wont replace my Stock ROM and i can back it up
Using ROM manager
4- I can backup my Info Using mybackup
Is this information correct ?
Hi,
i used TiTanium backup after a temp root and this very good guide in Desire HD dev topic:
[GUIDE] How to downgrade 1.7x/1.8x/2.x to 1.32.405.6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
Brgs,
Herold
miahegypt said:
First i'd like to thank u for ur reply , its very helpful
So i got this facts now, Correct me if i'm wrong
1- The best is to have both Radio and Eng S-off
2- I only need Gold Card if get incorrect CID
3- Downgrade , S-off and Rooting , wont replace my Stock ROM and i can back it up
Using ROM manager
4- I can backup my Info Using mybackup
Is this information correct ?
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That is correct. But if you have to choose between eng off or radio off, radio off is a better choice because it's more permanent. You can still remove it whenever you want
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App
miahegypt said:
3- Downgrade , S-off and Rooting , wont replace my Stock ROM and i can back it up
Using ROM manager
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i think downgrading does replace your stock rom, just with another stock rom. but it'll be like a brand new phone out of the box after you downgrade, everything will be wiped.
i did the downgrade using the link posted above, and i didn't realise it would do that. I thought i could downgrade, root, back up, flash rom, restore. turns out i should've backed up before downgrade.
maatsby said:
i think downgrading does replace your stock rom, just with another stock rom. but it'll be like a brand new phone out of the box after you downgrade, everything will be wiped.
i did the downgrade using the link posted above, and i didn't realise it would do that. I thought i could downgrade, root, back up, flash rom, restore. turns out i should've backed up before downgrade.
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after you have downgraded, you could always do an OTA update. so essentially its still the stock ROM that your phone came with.
miahegypt said:
How do i know if my phone is S-Off or Not ??
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you also asked this, please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193483
becoolboy said:
after you have downgraded, you could always do an OTA update. so essentially its still the stock ROM that your phone came with.
If i did OTA Update after Downgrading , S-Off then Rooting , will i have to do this all over again
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miahegypt said:
If i did OTA Update after Downgrading , S-Off then Rooting , will i have to do this all over again
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only the rooting part
miahegypt said:
becoolboy said:
after you have downgraded, you could always do an OTA update. so essentially its still the stock ROM that your phone came with.
If i did OTA Update after Downgrading , S-Off then Rooting , will i have to do this all over again
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If your radio off, no, you don't have to root again. Radio off is one of the most permanent thing you can do to your phone. However you can still radio off anytime you want.
However, if your only eng off, you might have to, depending on what version of bootloader you upgraded to.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App
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miahegypt said:
If your radio off, no, you don't have to root again. Radio off is one of the most permanent thing you can do to your phone. However you can still radio off anytime you want.
However, if your only eng off, you might have to, depending on what version of bootloader you upgraded to.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App
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Seems Like Radio S-off is the best choice , thanks a lot
i'l try to write the steps i got from all of that
i need to be organized so i won't make a deadly mistake and brick my brand new DHD
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miahegypt said:
becoolboy said:
Seems Like Radio S-off is the best choice , thanks a lot
i'l try to write the steps i got from all of that
i need to be organized so i won't make a deadly mistake and brick my brand new DHD
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Haha yea that might be a smart thing to do. But I don't think it's that easy to brick a phone. You have to either utterly retarded or very unlucky.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App
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OK now i think i got all the information i need for rooting my phone
I'll Write it Down to make sure that every thing will work ok
1- I'll backup my Contacts , Data , apps and my apps information using mybackup
2- Create A Gold Card using Steps in this link
3- Copy PD98IMG to my newly made goldcard
4- With My DHD plugged into my computer; on the device, i'll go into:
Settings > Applications > Development ; Check on "USB Debugging",
then exit back to the main screen
5- Start to Downgrade my DHD Using instruction in this Guide
6- Root my Device Using this Guide
7- Radio S-off my DHD using this Guide
9- ENG S-off my DHD using this Guide
10- I'll Do OTA Update to update to my latest Stock ROM
11- Use ROM manager to backup my stock ROM
Finally i backed up my data and my stock ROM and i'm ready to flash Custom ROM for my DHD
I hope these steps are right , Can some on confirm it ?
miahegypt said:
OK now i think i got all the information i need for rooting my phone
I'll Write it Down to make sure that every thing will work ok
1- I'll backup my Contacts , Data , apps and my apps information using mybackup
2- Create A Gold Card using Steps in this link
3- Copy PD98IMG to my newly made goldcard
4- With My DHD plugged into my computer; on the device, i'll go into:
Settings > Applications > Development ; Check on "USB Debugging",
then exit back to the main screen
5- Start to Downgrade my DHD Using instruction in this Guide
6- Root my Device Using this Guide
7- Radio S-off my DHD using this Guide
9- ENG S-off my DHD using this Guide
10- I'll Do OTA Update to update to my latest Stock ROM
11- Use ROM manager to backup my stock ROM
Finally i backed up my data and my stock ROM and i'm ready to flash Custom ROM for my DHD
I hope these steps are right , Can some on confirm it ?
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Comments on your steps.
1. i havent actually personally tried mybackup. but you do realise restoring apps and data from your stock to a custom ROM is different than restoring it onto a stock RUU, simply because custom ROMs might run slightly different. but by all means, try it. i am sure thats not enough to break your phone. you might have to redownload some of the apps tho.
another interesting thing to add is, gmail syncs your contact your email. after a fresh flash, all you have to do is resync. it doesnt give back your msges tho.
3. format your sdcard to fat32. this is important because larger sd cards default format cant be read by bootloader.
6. rooting can be divided into 2 types, eng-off and radio-off. what your doing here is an eng off procedure. skip step 9 all together.
7. make sure you radio off since you will be updating to OTA. some OTA breaks eng off, but radio off would still remain.
10. you might have to eng off (radio off would remain) again if you do an OTA update. i suggest moving step 6 after step 11
keep us posted on your status. good luck.
becoolboy said:
Comments on your steps.
1. i havent actually personally tried mybackup. but you do realise restoring apps and data from your stock to a custom ROM is different than restoring it onto a stock RUU, simply because custom ROMs might run slightly different. but by all means, try it. i am sure thats not enough to break your phone. you might have to redownload some of the apps tho.
another interesting thing to add is, gmail syncs your contact your email. after a fresh flash, all you have to do is resync. it doesnt give back your msges tho.
3. format your sdcard to fat32. this is important because larger sd cards default format cant be read by bootloader.
6. rooting can be divided into 2 types, eng-off and radio-off. what your doing here is an eng off procedure. skip step 9 all together.
7. make sure you radio off since you will be updating to OTA. some OTA breaks eng off, but radio off would still remain.
10. you might have to eng off (radio off would remain) again if you do an OTA update. i suggest moving step 6 after step 11
keep us posted on your status. good luck.
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thanks a lot for u help
1- that not a big issue for me , i might skip it
3- i got this part it's in making gold card Guide
6- Then this guide Eng S-off the device , did i got that right ?
7- I got this one and i know i'll lose Eng S-off , all i need is to backup my stock ROM , then i might Eng s-off again
10- i don't get this one , can i use Rom manager before rooting ? how can i backup my ROM without rooting ? or do u mean moving step 6 after step 10 not 11 ?
miahegypt said:
thanks a lot for u help
1- that not a big issue for me , i might skip it
3- i got this part it's in making gold card Guide
6- Then this guide Eng S-off the device , did i got that right ?
7- I got this one and i know i'll lose Eng S-off , all i need is to backup my stock ROM , then i might Eng s-off again
10- i don't get this one , can i use Rom manager before rooting ? how can i backup my ROM without rooting ? or do u mean moving step 6 after step 10 not 11 ?
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6. yup, that guide gives you eng off and proceed to step 7 to radio off. skip 9 since its the same as step 6
10. oops, sorry my bad, i meant move it after 10. but it doesnt matter really, since you have radio off (the permanent one), you can even backup stock ROM before you try to eng off. remember, radio off is also one kind of rooting and its 'permanent'
becoolboy said:
6. yup, that guide gives you eng off and proceed to step 7 to radio off. skip 9 since its the same as step 6
10. oops, sorry my bad, i meant move it after 10. but it doesnt matter really, since you have radio off (the permanent one), you can even backup stock ROM before you try to eng off. remember, radio off is also one kind of rooting and its 'permanent'
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thanks a lot u have been very helpful
i'v found a much much simpler guide here
it's mostly automated and very organized
what do u think ?
Looks good. But I can't personally vouch for it since i never use his frevo toolkit before. But from what I can guess it's just automated script to run adb commands. So it should be safe. I say go ahead and enjoy rooting and flashing and tweaking and so on.
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Depois de ROOT
Staff follow procedures for downgrade, I performed the root, did s-off, has to generate the GoldCard and applied correctly, now I have 2.2 Froyo routed everything right. Room Manager installed, I tried to install many more roms on the device restarts q always falls on a screen with a red exclamation warning. What remains to be done? What went wrong? I have to update the Froyo 2.2 for Ginger? if so? how? help! Thank you!