I'm new at this so i got all these noob qustions
First my DHD have built 2.42 with Arabic Regional Support ?
so
Do i need A Gold card ?
How do i know if my phone is S-Off or Not ??
What the best way to S-Off , Radio S-Off or Eng S-Off ?
When i downgrade will i loss my stock ROM ?
or i'll lose it at S-Off or rooting ?
Can i backup my stock ROM before i start rooting?
Rooting can mean radio off or/and eng off. Refer to desire HD development for rooting. Different build requires different ways to root.
Gold card, you will need one if your downgrading a branded phone. Branded phone includes any network locked phones and also unlocked phones. Even if you buy your phone out right from somewhere, there's still a big chance that it was locked previously. You will know when it says incorrect CID when your downgrade in bootloader.
Either radio or eng off allows you to flash any custom ROM, for beginners its recommended to have radio as its easier, while enthusiast have eng off, but most of the time, both. However to flash a radio, the recommended way is to have both off
The question about backing up your current ROM. After you root, go download a recovery app namely ROM manager which lets you back up your current ROM, meaning you can restore your stock ROM anytime you want. Hope that clears up a bit.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App
You only need a goldcard if your dhd is network branded.
If you havent done anything to it yet it will have S-on
All the information you need is in the first post of this thread Link
If you downgrade it you will get a clean stock rom, losing all the data you havent backed up eg contacts, apps, app data. Anything on your sd card will be unaffected and you can use mybackup (30 Day Trial/Full Version/Root Version) to backup you data (but not app data because you dont have root).
Root your phone and use the root version (also free) to restore the backup. It restores with one click but the non-root versions need you to confirm each app installation.
First i'd like to thank u for ur reply , its very helpful
So i got this facts now, Correct me if i'm wrong
1- The best is to have both Radio and Eng S-off
2- I only need Gold Card if get incorrect CID
3- Downgrade , S-off and Rooting , wont replace my Stock ROM and i can back it up
Using ROM manager
4- I can backup my Info Using mybackup
Is this information correct ?
Hi,
i used TiTanium backup after a temp root and this very good guide in Desire HD dev topic:
[GUIDE] How to downgrade 1.7x/1.8x/2.x to 1.32.405.6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
Brgs,
Herold
miahegypt said:
First i'd like to thank u for ur reply , its very helpful
So i got this facts now, Correct me if i'm wrong
1- The best is to have both Radio and Eng S-off
2- I only need Gold Card if get incorrect CID
3- Downgrade , S-off and Rooting , wont replace my Stock ROM and i can back it up
Using ROM manager
4- I can backup my Info Using mybackup
Is this information correct ?
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That is correct. But if you have to choose between eng off or radio off, radio off is a better choice because it's more permanent. You can still remove it whenever you want
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App
miahegypt said:
3- Downgrade , S-off and Rooting , wont replace my Stock ROM and i can back it up
Using ROM manager
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i think downgrading does replace your stock rom, just with another stock rom. but it'll be like a brand new phone out of the box after you downgrade, everything will be wiped.
i did the downgrade using the link posted above, and i didn't realise it would do that. I thought i could downgrade, root, back up, flash rom, restore. turns out i should've backed up before downgrade.
maatsby said:
i think downgrading does replace your stock rom, just with another stock rom. but it'll be like a brand new phone out of the box after you downgrade, everything will be wiped.
i did the downgrade using the link posted above, and i didn't realise it would do that. I thought i could downgrade, root, back up, flash rom, restore. turns out i should've backed up before downgrade.
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after you have downgraded, you could always do an OTA update. so essentially its still the stock ROM that your phone came with.
miahegypt said:
How do i know if my phone is S-Off or Not ??
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you also asked this, please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193483
becoolboy said:
after you have downgraded, you could always do an OTA update. so essentially its still the stock ROM that your phone came with.
If i did OTA Update after Downgrading , S-Off then Rooting , will i have to do this all over again
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miahegypt said:
If i did OTA Update after Downgrading , S-Off then Rooting , will i have to do this all over again
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only the rooting part
miahegypt said:
becoolboy said:
after you have downgraded, you could always do an OTA update. so essentially its still the stock ROM that your phone came with.
If i did OTA Update after Downgrading , S-Off then Rooting , will i have to do this all over again
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If your radio off, no, you don't have to root again. Radio off is one of the most permanent thing you can do to your phone. However you can still radio off anytime you want.
However, if your only eng off, you might have to, depending on what version of bootloader you upgraded to.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App
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miahegypt said:
If your radio off, no, you don't have to root again. Radio off is one of the most permanent thing you can do to your phone. However you can still radio off anytime you want.
However, if your only eng off, you might have to, depending on what version of bootloader you upgraded to.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App
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Seems Like Radio S-off is the best choice , thanks a lot
i'l try to write the steps i got from all of that
i need to be organized so i won't make a deadly mistake and brick my brand new DHD
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miahegypt said:
becoolboy said:
Seems Like Radio S-off is the best choice , thanks a lot
i'l try to write the steps i got from all of that
i need to be organized so i won't make a deadly mistake and brick my brand new DHD
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Haha yea that might be a smart thing to do. But I don't think it's that easy to brick a phone. You have to either utterly retarded or very unlucky.
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OK now i think i got all the information i need for rooting my phone
I'll Write it Down to make sure that every thing will work ok
1- I'll backup my Contacts , Data , apps and my apps information using mybackup
2- Create A Gold Card using Steps in this link
3- Copy PD98IMG to my newly made goldcard
4- With My DHD plugged into my computer; on the device, i'll go into:
Settings > Applications > Development ; Check on "USB Debugging",
then exit back to the main screen
5- Start to Downgrade my DHD Using instruction in this Guide
6- Root my Device Using this Guide
7- Radio S-off my DHD using this Guide
9- ENG S-off my DHD using this Guide
10- I'll Do OTA Update to update to my latest Stock ROM
11- Use ROM manager to backup my stock ROM
Finally i backed up my data and my stock ROM and i'm ready to flash Custom ROM for my DHD
I hope these steps are right , Can some on confirm it ?
miahegypt said:
OK now i think i got all the information i need for rooting my phone
I'll Write it Down to make sure that every thing will work ok
1- I'll backup my Contacts , Data , apps and my apps information using mybackup
2- Create A Gold Card using Steps in this link
3- Copy PD98IMG to my newly made goldcard
4- With My DHD plugged into my computer; on the device, i'll go into:
Settings > Applications > Development ; Check on "USB Debugging",
then exit back to the main screen
5- Start to Downgrade my DHD Using instruction in this Guide
6- Root my Device Using this Guide
7- Radio S-off my DHD using this Guide
9- ENG S-off my DHD using this Guide
10- I'll Do OTA Update to update to my latest Stock ROM
11- Use ROM manager to backup my stock ROM
Finally i backed up my data and my stock ROM and i'm ready to flash Custom ROM for my DHD
I hope these steps are right , Can some on confirm it ?
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Comments on your steps.
1. i havent actually personally tried mybackup. but you do realise restoring apps and data from your stock to a custom ROM is different than restoring it onto a stock RUU, simply because custom ROMs might run slightly different. but by all means, try it. i am sure thats not enough to break your phone. you might have to redownload some of the apps tho.
another interesting thing to add is, gmail syncs your contact your email. after a fresh flash, all you have to do is resync. it doesnt give back your msges tho.
3. format your sdcard to fat32. this is important because larger sd cards default format cant be read by bootloader.
6. rooting can be divided into 2 types, eng-off and radio-off. what your doing here is an eng off procedure. skip step 9 all together.
7. make sure you radio off since you will be updating to OTA. some OTA breaks eng off, but radio off would still remain.
10. you might have to eng off (radio off would remain) again if you do an OTA update. i suggest moving step 6 after step 11
keep us posted on your status. good luck.
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Comments on your steps.
1. i havent actually personally tried mybackup. but you do realise restoring apps and data from your stock to a custom ROM is different than restoring it onto a stock RUU, simply because custom ROMs might run slightly different. but by all means, try it. i am sure thats not enough to break your phone. you might have to redownload some of the apps tho.
another interesting thing to add is, gmail syncs your contact your email. after a fresh flash, all you have to do is resync. it doesnt give back your msges tho.
3. format your sdcard to fat32. this is important because larger sd cards default format cant be read by bootloader.
6. rooting can be divided into 2 types, eng-off and radio-off. what your doing here is an eng off procedure. skip step 9 all together.
7. make sure you radio off since you will be updating to OTA. some OTA breaks eng off, but radio off would still remain.
10. you might have to eng off (radio off would remain) again if you do an OTA update. i suggest moving step 6 after step 11
keep us posted on your status. good luck.
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thanks a lot for u help
1- that not a big issue for me , i might skip it
3- i got this part it's in making gold card Guide
6- Then this guide Eng S-off the device , did i got that right ?
7- I got this one and i know i'll lose Eng S-off , all i need is to backup my stock ROM , then i might Eng s-off again
10- i don't get this one , can i use Rom manager before rooting ? how can i backup my ROM without rooting ? or do u mean moving step 6 after step 10 not 11 ?
miahegypt said:
thanks a lot for u help
1- that not a big issue for me , i might skip it
3- i got this part it's in making gold card Guide
6- Then this guide Eng S-off the device , did i got that right ?
7- I got this one and i know i'll lose Eng S-off , all i need is to backup my stock ROM , then i might Eng s-off again
10- i don't get this one , can i use Rom manager before rooting ? how can i backup my ROM without rooting ? or do u mean moving step 6 after step 10 not 11 ?
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6. yup, that guide gives you eng off and proceed to step 7 to radio off. skip 9 since its the same as step 6
10. oops, sorry my bad, i meant move it after 10. but it doesnt matter really, since you have radio off (the permanent one), you can even backup stock ROM before you try to eng off. remember, radio off is also one kind of rooting and its 'permanent'
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6. yup, that guide gives you eng off and proceed to step 7 to radio off. skip 9 since its the same as step 6
10. oops, sorry my bad, i meant move it after 10. but it doesnt matter really, since you have radio off (the permanent one), you can even backup stock ROM before you try to eng off. remember, radio off is also one kind of rooting and its 'permanent'
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thanks a lot u have been very helpful
i'v found a much much simpler guide here
it's mostly automated and very organized
what do u think ?
Looks good. But I can't personally vouch for it since i never use his frevo toolkit before. But from what I can guess it's just automated script to run adb commands. So it should be safe. I say go ahead and enjoy rooting and flashing and tweaking and so on.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App
Depois de ROOT
Staff follow procedures for downgrade, I performed the root, did s-off, has to generate the GoldCard and applied correctly, now I have 2.2 Froyo routed everything right. Room Manager installed, I tried to install many more roms on the device restarts q always falls on a screen with a red exclamation warning. What remains to be done? What went wrong? I have to update the Froyo 2.2 for Ginger? if so? how? help! Thank you!
Related
Guide To rooting mytouch 3g 32b (Even if you have 1.6 update)
Propz to:Amon_RA, andreev2001, Cyanogen, and any one else sources I used
Ok after Searching the forums and finding all types of ways to root a Mytouch and having some/no luck I decided
to created a thread that goes into complete detail(or try to at least) about each step that is guaranteed to work if done correctly.
READ
This guide does not require a goldcard or adb . I am also not responsible for bricked/broken phones. Now since that's out of the way happy rooting!!
IF your phone is currently running 1.5(cupcake) already then skip to step 3
1.First of all we can't really do anything with 1.6 so we must downgrade to 1.5 by downloading this sappimg.nph and installing it
2.Once downloaded put it on your sdcard and reboot and go into hboot mode (Hold END+VOLUME DOWN). Preform the update
3.Once update is COMPLETLY finished and it asks you to reboot. Do so, then load your phone up fully and download this apk here (flashrecovery.apk) then run it.
Skip these steps and go to step 4 if you know how to install a apk
3a.to install this apk you have to enable the install unkown source in your settings. To do this hit menu >Settings>Applications>Unkown Soruces(check this).
3b. After this go to the market and download a app called "Astro" (the description should mention somthing about file manager) or you could use another apk installer but I prefer this one.
4. After installing the apk run it and click on “backup recovery image” let it do what it does then click on “Flash Cyanogen Recovery 1.4″.
5.Once that is done you want to download the SPL by clicking here, then put it on your sdcard. After that download any ROM(If you dont know what a ROM is search, I cant tell you everything ) of your choice and rename it "update.zip" without quotes then place it in your sdcard
6.Reboot your g1 and hold down the "HOME" key and it should bring up the flash image recovery screen. Choose apply any zip from sd and then choose "update.Engineering-SPL-HBOOT-1.33.2005-signed.zip". It finishes almost immediately with message saying successfully flashed(if it doesn't you prolly ate to much chicken ).
7. Then after it is installed select the restart option and then load into fastboot mode (Hold "BACK" arrow key while its restarting). Once fastboot is loaded the SPL info should say HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAPP30000). If it does congrats almost there!!!!! If it doesn't, you did somthing wrong and you need to retrace you're steps.
8.Exit fastboot by hitting the "GREEN" button and before the phone boots up hold the "HOME" button and then go to "apply sdcard:update.zip". Let it install and VOL LA you installed your ROM. Preform a reboot and you will now have a rooted phone with a custom ROM
1) thanks for posting, ive tried to follow other instructions over the past few days to no avail
2) any chance of hosting the sappimg.nph file somehwere else? I cant access rapidshare from my phone. I would greatly appreciate it.
OMG SOOO EASY!!!! Mods should sticky this as the new root / rom upload process
I was running android 1.6 on tmobil mytouch 3g with perfected spl 1.33.2006
@ascis sure ill host the files on my website later (im not @ home right now)
@nonmindo thanks and i hope u had a easy time rooting
@ascis sure ill host the files on my website later (im not @ home right now)
@nonmindo thanks and i hope u had a easy time rooting
Thanks for posting - much appreciated. Can I ask what the benefit of changing the SPL is? Is this required?
My concern is regarding warranty - if I flash a new SPL, it is my understanding that I will not be able to flash my current one back, and hence return the phone to stock if the need arises.
ParanoiaPersonified said:
Can I ask what the benefit of changing the SPL is? Is this required?
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Yes, it is required. You cannot root with the MT3G SPL, so you need to change the SPL.
ParanoiaPersonified said:
My concern is regarding warranty - if I flash a new SPL, it is my understanding that I will not be able to flash my current one back, and hence return the phone to stock if the need arises.
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You can flash it back to the original SPL. You would then be unrooted. Look at Amon_RA's original rooting process with Gold Card. At the bottom, he gives directions on how to return your phone to the unrooted state in case you need to do that.
Thanks, I thought with one-click-root, once you'd got the recovery rom flashed, you were done - that you had root and could flash what you liked.
For the record, I'm Voda 32B, but have perfected SPL .0007.
[EDIT] Yes, that thread has a file to return to stock, but only for MT3G, which is why I am hesitant to flash a new SPL to my device.
I've still seen in lots of places mind, that suggest this process works without the flashing of a new SPL. Such as: http://www.ryebrye.com/blog/2009/08/16/android-rooting-in-1-click-in-progress/
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What happened to the ability to format and
and put partitions from the recovery? I just got another Mytouch and rooted it and no ability to put the partions from the recovery mode? I think I had version 1.2 and now I have 1.4
FenderGuy said:
and put partitions from the recovery? I just got another Mytouch and rooted it and no ability to put the partions from the recovery mode? I think I had version 1.2 and now I have 1.4
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You still can, but not with the recovery img ur using wirch is cyanogen 1.4. Just flash amans new recovery img and you will be able to partion
4. After installing the apk run it and click on “backup recovery image” let it do what it does then click on “Flash Cyanogen Recovery 1.4″.
backup failed:I received that could not run command
cparekh said:
Yes, it is required. You cannot root with the MT3G SPL, so you need to change the SPL.
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I have rooted my myTouch3G with the 1-click method (twice actually, needed to take it to the store), and I have the perfected SPL 1.33.2006.
The main issue with this SPL is that it does not allow you to use fastboot. As far as I know, this has nothing to do with root access.
Can confirm that I've performed the OP's procedure but *without* flashing a new SPL, and everything is working fine.
Now running CyanogenMod 4.2.2 w/ CM Recovery 1.4.
Does anyone have the link to the partitions recovery? I tried to put the Hero recovery on and it does not want to come on and I still show the Cyanogenmod v1.4 +jf....someone help
Also in the top it has Andriod system recovery (2)? I did it twice, how do i take one off?
kryptik06 said:
@ascis sure ill host the files on my website later (im not @ home right now)
@nonmindo thanks and i hope u had a easy time rooting
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Any word on rehosting? I know its a pain but my phone is my only internet connection.
acis said:
Any word on rehosting? I know its a pain but my phone is my only internet connection.
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here you go sorry for the wait
http://www.4shared.com/file/145083511/5ffeb21d/SAPPIMG.html
vodafone htc magic 32b gives error to ur method
error "update fail model id incorrect "
i think this sappimg is for the mytouch and not for htc magic vodafone. so it gives this error.
do you have any solutions for this.
thank you
kryptik06 said:
here you go sorry for the wait
http://www.4shared.com/file/145083511/5ffeb21d/SAPPIMG.html
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Flashed last night, worked perfectly. I had no idea it was going to be this much faster. Thankyou.
I am looking for a rom that has a wifi tether app!
yes I am to the step where u download a rom and I am looking for a rom that has WIFI TETHER for my laptop...
much will be appreciated if u can help=D
- THANKS
well i guess right now i just want my phone rooted...
i just want a rooted phone cuz i can download a wifi app i just need a rooted phone....thanks for your post though....much much much much appreciated...nice and simple...other post or vids ive seen go to far in to detail about it and i forget what step im on .lol
-THANKS
The fastest way I found of debranding the startup on both orange and tmobile startup screens is by installing a WWE rom. via RUU or update zip. Once you've done this, the startup logos for either orange/tmobile will be automatically removed. Have to say I love the support HTC give for roms for this cos its so easy. Then just use any custom ROM you like and no more BRANDING !!!!!!!!!!!!
Can I just ask;
01; If that using the WWE firmware it will remove the HTC sense UI or still keep it?
02; Can you apply the WWE firmware without rooting the device?
1) WWE is a generic rom as far as I know so it will remove all the branding from mobile networks and only leave HTC stuff on there. Sense stays as it is as its not network related.
2) I've rooted my device and it works. Haven't tried on an unrooted device so can't really answer. If you can get an WWE RUU update it should work without rooting as its and official standard rom.
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1) WWE is a generic rom as far as I know so it will remove all the branding from mobile networks and only leave HTC stuff on there. Sense stays as it is as its not network related.
2) I've rooted my device and it works. Haven't tried on an unrooted device so can't really answer. If you can get an WWE RUU update it should work without rooting as its and official standard rom.
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Thanks for this info, might try it. I have just read though that you need to root it to do a nandroid backup of the device. I won't do a firmware change without doing a full backup first.
Do you no any method to do a full phone backup without rooting?
Much aprecciated for the assistance.
Right, after reading a ton of posts, threads blogs e.t.c I finally got it managed to do it via the goldcard method, flashrec-1.1.3-20091107-2.apk, recovery-RA-hero-v1.5.3.1, RUU_Hero_HTC_WWE_2.73.405.5_WWE_release_signed_NoDriver, HxD && HTCSync.
Only things I back up are apps and data using MyBackupPro. So don't really need to root it unless you wana save literally everything.
And I've done this via unlockr.com's one click root method (flashrec, etc) not the goldcard method and then installing a generic rom. But whichever works for you best.
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Only things I back up are apps and data using MyBackupPro. So don't really need to root it unless you wana save literally everything.
And I've done this via unlockr.com's one click root method (flashrec, etc) not the goldcard method and then installing a generic rom. But whichever works for you best.
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I found out that the new rom that T-Mobile/HTC produced locked out flashrec and you had to downgrade the ROM to use flashrec sucessfully. It only worked with the goldcard method and thankyou for your help.
Ye unfortunately networks really can be a pain in the ... I tend to stick to generic or custom roms as they have less in them than network modified roms. Hope it works after the goldcard method as I've never used it.
Its only going to be a matter of time before people will need to send phones back under warranty for whatever reasons so a guide for unrooting will be needed.
Any takers?
G2 already has one, but obviously we will need different rom/hboot etc to go back to our stock.
Not just unrooting, but going completely back to stock, i.e. S-ON and stock ROM.
As you say, we should be able to base it on this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835971
Although we have several different stock ROMs, e.g. European, Asian, Vodafone UK, etc.
this is already covered in the FAQ (easy tutorial @ dev forum)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9143411&postcount=2
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this is already covered in the FAQ (easy tutorial @ dev forum)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9143411&postcount=2
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That just says to use Visionary to turn off rooting. Or did I miss something ?
As I said, I think we need to cover how to return a phone completely to stock, and I don't think it includes all that you'd really need to do, or if you didn't use Visionary in the first place, e.g. the kind of stuff in the G2 post that I linked.
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That just says to use Visionary to turn off rooting. Or did I miss something ?
As I said, I think we need to cover how to return a phone completely to stock, and I don't think it includes all that you'd really need to do, or if you didn't use Visionary in the first place, e.g. the kind of stuff in the G2 post that I linked.
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It does say to flash an RUU to S-ON which in the past I would have said would work, but seeing how the G2 forums are not suggesting that its that simple my guess would be that its not that simple.
I had to flash the PC10img thing taken from the stock ROM to restore root and s-on. But no idea how to extract that PC10img thing, not that I have looked into it either.
That info was from one of the guides in the dev section I'm sure.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
What might work now will probably not work once an OTA update comes out for the DZ though, as per the problem on the G2 they've had which has led to quite a few semi-bricks (possibly full bricks in some cases ?).
Done some research, it would seem that flashing an RUU would work fine for those of us already rooted, if an OTA were to come out those who rooted after the OTA would have issues unless an RUU for the same OTA was released as well. (this is basically because the RUU's currently available will be older than the software the phone is on so the RUU would fail leaving you with a semi-bricked phone as described above, basically it would flash stock hboot and recovery then fail to flash the /system so you would be left with no root or recovery and no rom.
Flashing the ruu would give rise to accepting the OTA too, if you really wanted to do that, but it might block root.
you just need the RUU for your correct original phone version
OR use a gold card
eg. I have debranded mine from bell NAM 1.34.666.5 to euro generic 1.34.405.5
To go back to stock, I can:
1.- grab the bell 1.34.666.1 RUU (its slightly previous, but is the correct original version for my phone)
OR
2.- run the euro generic 1.34.405.5 with a golcard inserted
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you just need the RUU for your correct original phone version
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Isn't that dangerous though once we get any OTAs, and could lead to this ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484
Or am I missing something ?
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Isn't that dangerous though once we get any OTAs, and could lead to this ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484
Or am I missing something ?
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Yes thats what I was getting at in my post above, any RUU you flash needs to be of the same or newer version of what your previously flashing. You cannot GoldCard to flash an RUU to S-ON or you get left with the semi-brick where you have stock recovery and hboot, but no rom installed.
So if an OTA comes out, you can't accept it, s-off then use an older RUU to s-on again. You would have to flash an RUU of that OTA version (if one is released).
Basically its best to not accept any OTA if you can avoid it and just wait for a custom rom of the same, that way we can always use the older RUU's to s-on if we need it.
I successfully downgraded my rooted/S-OFF'd phone to an earlier ROM last night. I simply followed this method - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832503
I'm of the firm belief that this is the onyl way to do it if you are at S-OFF. If you have S-OFF, then flashing an older RUU will probably brick your phone.
Well yesterday I perm root and s-off my european Desire Z with World/Euro generic 1.34.405.5. Somehow everything went bad after flashing recovery mode, so I decided to unroot it and bring it back to original settings.
I found there are 2 methods, one is to run the original ruu, and the other one was to copy the exact World/Euro generic 1.34.405.5 PC10img.zip to the root of my sd card.
Then entered to bootloader, and the phone recognize the archive, I simply apply it, and now I am back again to original stock.
However now I tried again and I am happily root, and S-Off following the amazing gtrab guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777)
buzmay said:
I found there are 2 methods, one is to run the original ruu, and the other one was to copy the exact World/Euro generic 1.34.405.5 PC10img.zip to the root of my sd card.
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That's the thing I keep saying though, flashing the original RUU worked for you because you weren't trying to downgrade the ROM, it was the same version that you already had on (just S-OFF etc). If you had a later version on your phone (e.g. via an OTA update) and were trying to flash to an earlier one, you would have bricked it trying the straight RUU method.
So what should be done is download and install an RUU - say 1.234.987, so you're on 1.234.987 - then root / S-OFF / custom ROM the phone. If anything goes wrong, reinstall the 1.234.987 RUU.
By the way - that's a fake RUU
DanWilson said:
So what should be done is download and install an RUU - say 1.234.987, so you're on 1.234.987 - then root / S-OFF / custom ROM the phone. If anything goes wrong, reinstall the 1.234.987 RUU.
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During that process, if the stock HBOOT/recovery that is installed by that RUU decides that what you're trying to flash is "older" than your custom ROM, you're screwed though. That's why the "debranding" guide has extra steps in it, i.e. gold card and editing the misc partition.
steviewevie said:
During that process, if the stock HBOOT/recovery that is installed by that RUU decides that what you're trying to flash is "older" than your custom ROM, you're screwed though. That's why the "debranding" guide has extra steps in it, i.e. gold card and editing the misc partition.
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I hate HTC.
Love the phones, love the Sense, hate the security.
Why not give us a command like the N1? WHY!?
So you should backup the system partition before S-OFF and so on? Like so a dd? (Following on from previous post)
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So you should backup the system partition before S-OFF and so on? Like so a dd? (Following on from previous post)
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The system partition isn't changed in S-OFF, that's the boot partition (just allows writing to the system partition).
The gold card and editing of the misc partition should work fine, as per this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832503
It worked for me last night to flash to an older stock ROM (which also gave me S-ON again, removing my S-OFF).
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The system partition isn't changed in S-OFF, that's the boot partition (just allows writing to the system partition).
The gold card and editing of the misc partition should work fine, as per this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832503
It worked for me last night to flash to an older stock ROM (which also gave me S-ON again, removing my S-OFF).
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Cool. Confused. I believe you though.
But you are saying just to make a gold card, and edit the misc partition?
Nice
DanWilson said:
Cool. Confused. I believe you though.
But you are saying just to make a gold card, and edit the misc partition?
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Following that guide that I linked worked for me. Yes, I turned my SD card into a gold card and edited the misc partition. Then it is fooled into thinking you're restoring a ROM of the same version that it already is running, so it lets you do it.
Actually, I do wonder whether both steps are necessary (i.e. gold card *and* editing misc), because I thought the whole point of the gold card was that it avoided those checks, so perhaps you can do one or the other ? I am only thinking out loud here, and may well be missing something, so I don't suggest trying it other than as in that guide.
Guys -
i am newbie in these rooting stuffs, i tried to root my DHD, but now stuck in the very first step...
I installed VISIOnary+ in DHD and set USB debuggin ON.
checked "set system r/w after root" and selected temproot now.
it says rooting your device and after 2min, only black screen..nothing happens.
I waited for 10min, but the same black screen.
So, rebooted and everything was normal(as a un-rooted device).
any help what wrong i did or how to rectify this problem.
Thanks
Satya
Hi,
you need to downgrade to 1.32 before to gain root.
ciao
luigi
Hi!
Read this tutorial, it explains everything you need to permanently root your DHD
How To Permanently Root HTC Desire HD [Complete Guide]
addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-root-telus-htc-desire-hd
That's the one I've used and it worked like a charm.
thx guys..
i have successfully rooted and Eng S-off.
Now i want to flash the custom rom, should i need to flash the radio also seperately?
Do u have any procedure to flash the customer rom.
-Satya
sathyaac said:
Now i want to flash the custom rom, should i need to flash the radio also seperately?
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Yes. You will need Radio S-OFF.
sathyaac said:
Do u have any procedure to flash the customer rom.
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Place on SD Card and use recovery or ROM Manager to install ROM.
Wipe data (factory wipe) before each ROM.
I have flashed the custom Rom, but the volume seems to be muted. The other person in the call s not able to hear me. Neither does the voice recorder picks up any sound. S there any setting to turn on?
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Hi there,
Im new with Wildfire, so I want to change my system to 2.3.3. But before that I would like to make a backup to not loose everything on my phone in the system 2.2.1. Can U please give me a link how can I do that?
Thx.
When your phone is rooted, install clockworkmod recovery. You can there make a nandroid backup of your current ROM (which you can later restore in case something goes wrong).
Apps can be backupped by a program called titanium backup, but again requires root (but works very well!)
Link for s-off and root in case you have not done this yet: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145035
Thx for the link but as I see there All procedures were done under WINDOWS 7, 32-bit. And me I have win 7 64bit, should not be a problem?
No, the procedure remains the same.
I have indeed done everything on windows7 64bit and am succesfully running CM7
Is the wifi working on this 2.3.3?
you are probably talking about installing a custom ROM right? Then if wifi works depends on which custom ROM you are installing, and there is probably a thread about each custom rom in the dev section, so you can check there
Yes but Im a little bit confuse here. U gave me a link and there I read that CM7 is stable. But what should I do before install it?
I know that first I need to back up my phone and my old 2.2.1 android.
Please tell me what should I do first? step by step. I will apreciate so much. And in this CM7 is everything working fine? I mean wifi - blutooth etc?
Thx
The general steps:
S-off or root your phone (most easy is S-off with the alpharevx tool right now, root is easy then)
Flash clockworkmod recovery
Acess clockworkmod recovery by holding volume down when the phone is off and pressing the power button once
Make nandroid backup with clockworkmod recovery
Wipe cache, dalvik cache, reset to factory settings (in clockworkmod recovery)
Put the .zip file for the custom ROM on your sd card (root of the sd card)
Flash the ROM using clockworkmod recovery
Install google apps (market, youtube, ...) the same way you flashed your ROM. You can do this step afterwards though if you like
Reboot into your new ROM
The details should be in the thread I linked to. I did it myself using another thread (something called "after alpharevx...") but I have looked for it and I cannot find it back anymore sorry... But look at the one I linked to above, I'm sure it holds all the info needed
The first time took a few hours for me aswel and some reflashing because i got bootloops (no worries, you can fix that, the phone will not be bricked ! ), but afterwards it's all very easy
And I'm not sure if everything works perfect. There is a common problem with the GPS which can be solved by reflashing the radio. Wifi works, bluetooth I have no idea as I have never used it yet... I read there are problems but I don't know if there are problems in the current stable version... But trust me, the hours you put in it the first time, and the few flaws there still are are totally worth the result I cannot believe I have been on stock ROM more than a year before finally flashing custom ROMs...
So let me show U what my phone shown when I reboot it by using the volume DOWN and the power:
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-1.01.0001
RADIO-3.35.20.10
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So do I need the Revolutionary to S-OFF it? because I dont need to downgrade my version anymore right?
Right. Go to AlphaRev.nl/x/
Download there the tool to making phone s-off and root it after that.
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I want also to know when do I need to format my SD Card to FAT32? I just read somewhere that I need to format it in order to make a nandroid or something like that??
And please tell me also what is the difference between sense ROM and CM7 ?? I want to be sure to do the right thing because I dont want to destroy my treasure xD.
So after S-Offing my phone I need to root it and then format my SD Card?? Please tell me the step I need to do.
Thx.
No one helps?
Just read the guide!! EVERYTHING is stated there. Your SDCard should be FAT32 already before you start it.
To get an idea of CM7, read a review somewhere of the Nexus S, and most importantly ,check the software review of it. That is, in a nutshell, what CM7 is. Also, the official site should tell you a bit about it:
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/
Sense ROM is what you see at the moment on your Wildfire. All apps, like the camera, dialer, contacts, messages etc. are different in AOSP ROMs like CM7 and Sense ROMs like the stock one.
Dude but I dont need a goldcard but S-OFFing my phone. I have the HBOOT 1.01.0001 already so as I read the goldcard is for the ones who want to downgrade their HBOOT.
So tell me how do I format my sdcard and make a partition for it? I need to format before S-OFFing? So where will be my backup (nandroid?) and where do I put my new and old ROM?
Its quite a little bit confuse for me so can U put me on the right path and help me?
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Dude but I dont need a goldcard but S-OFFing my phone. I have the HBOOT 1.01.0001 already so as I read the goldcard is for the ones who want to downgrade their HBOOT.
So tell me how do I format my sdcard and make a partition for it? I need to format before S-OFFing? So where will be my backup (nandroid?) and where do I put my new and old ROM?
Its quite a little bit confuse for me so can U put me on the right path and help me?
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Just go through this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
No, you need not do anything with your SDcard, if getting S-OFF is all you need.
I'll post the outline for you:
- Download Revolutionary
- Run it, it will S-OFF your phone
- After S-OFF'ing it, it will ask you whether you want to install a Custom Recovery. Select YES.
- This will install Clockworkmod 4.0.1.4
That's it. Once Clockworkmod is installed, you can then take a nandroid backup and then flash custom ROMs. You can read this post for all details for taking Nandroid backups and flashing custom stuff:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8926457&postcount=4
Hope this clears up your doubts
Ok, but if I need to put my new ROM in order to have CM7 in my phone do I need to format my sdcard before do nandroid?
How about the partition of my sdcard? What can U suggest for me? Thx
No. Not necessary. Flashing a ROM is independent of the contents of the SDCard. You can take a Nandroid also without formatting or doing anything to your SDCard, as long as you have sufficient space. (1 Nandroid backup is ~300-350MB)
SDCard partitioning can be done after you S-OFF and root your phone. Then, install an app called ROM Manager, you will have an option within it to partition your SDCard. But, here, make sure you backup your SDCard before partitioning because partitioning will automatically format it.
Ok is ROM manager is an independent program? where can I get it? from android market? or I will get it automaticly after s-offing my device?
Karthus said:
Ok is ROM manager is an independent program? where can I get it? from android market? or I will get it automaticly after s-offing my device?
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- Yes, it is an independent program.
- No, you will not automatically get it after S-OFF
- Yes, it's available on the market (Both free and premium)
- If you decide to install CM7 ROM after S-OFF and installing a Custom recovery, it includes it by default.
Just to get one thing out of the way - We are referring to create an EXT partition on the SDCard after S-OFF'ing/rooting to enable Apps2SD. Not a FAT32 or any other partition.