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I just purchased a HERO 6262 GSM on ebay and looks like it is already rooted and is running FirmwareVerison: Villain5.2, Baseband version:63.18.55.06EU_6.35.06.18, but I want to go back to stock HTC rom. I've installed HTC Sync and downloaded two different RUU's and try to install but it fails. I've tried RUU_Hero_HTC_WWE_1.76.405.6_WWE_release_signed_NoDriver and RUU_Hero_HTC_WWE_1.76.405.1_R3_WWE_release_signed_NoDriver.
It acts like it is going to install the rom, but it fails. In the RUU I get error 140: Bootloader version error. What am I doing wrong? Or which Stock rom should I install.....please help. I would also like the ability to root again and go to Villain down the road.
Much thanks and all help is appreciated!
Nevermind.....I just downloaded and installed RUU_Hero_HTC_WWE_2.73.405.5_WWE_release_signed_NoDriver without any problems. So I guess I must use this one from now on to go back to stock version. How about how to reinstall Villain 5.2? Much thanks.
Well you haven't done yourself any favours, putting an official, non-rooted ROM on, then wanting to re-root it later.
Goldcard for you methinks.
Lol
You should have read more before you messed with the phone...
You should have done android backup first.
Now
I think you have to.. root.. then load the new ROM.
Sent from my HERO200 using Tapatalk
why would you buy a rooted phone, just to throw some stock firmware on there to want to root it again?
*Facepalm*
Because I wanted to make sure the phone was all good and not screwed up by the previous owner......looks like I gotta use the goldcard method to root it. However, which ROM do you guys recommend?
with the ruu 2.73.405.5 you can use flashrec-20090815.apk and flash recovery image without goldcard
knudsen81 said:
with the ruu 2.73.405.5 you can use flashrec-20090815.apk and flash recovery image without goldcard
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Seconded. That's actually the RUU I used, to downgrade to, via a gold card. So at least the OP has saved themselves the hassle of that.
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At the moment, sometimes current RUUs (ROM Update Utility) do not flash from the latest RUU exe - many times it will not recognise the Desire HD.
If you are having this problem, this is how to flash the latest stock RUU.
The latest RUU at the time of writing is 1.32.405.6.
You can download the RUUs from xmoo's thread or from mousey_'s site.
note: This is mainly for stock phones, for vendor-derived ones (e.g Vodafone DHDs in Australia) you will also need a goldcard.
Common Steps
Download the latest RUU (1.32.405.6).
Run it as administrator.
Tick the 'I understand the caution indicated above...' box, and click next.
At this point do not go any further.
Navigate to C:\Users\Ivo\AppData\Local\Temp (Replace my username with yours; AppData is a hidden folder)
You should see one or two folders like this:
{719CE201-7B12-4A13-9AF6-8F359FE69C7B}
Go into the one with dotnetinstaller.exe in it.
Open up the next folder.
Copy rom.zip into another folder (outside of temp).
At this point just Cancel and quit out of the ROM Update Utility.
A) Install through PC
Download and install HTC Sync 3.0 and restart.
Download the 1.15.405.1 Test RUU. It is the only one currently known to find the Android DHD.
Start it the same way as before, get to the
1. Connect the Smartphone to the USB Cable.
step. (but no further)
Again, go to the AppData local temp directory (same as above), and find the folder with dotnetinstaller.exe and inside that, rom.zip
You want to delete the rom.zip (which is the 1.15 version) and replace it with (copy back) the 1.32 rom.zip you copied out earler.
DO NOT UPDATE WITH 1.15 ROM, IT IS NOT DESIGNED FOR RETAIL DHDs.
Now click through the next buttons.
The 1.15 Utility should now be set to update with the 1.32 rom. You will see the version number of the rom at the final step.
Click update and watch the magic happen
B) or Install through Phone
With the rom.zip you copied out earlier, rename it PD98IMG.zip
Copy this onto the root of your microSD card through some means (disk drive, ftp, wireless).
Restart your phone and boot into the bootloader by holding power and volume down at the same time as it restarts.
It should go into the bootloader, take a fair while to check the zip on the sd card, and then ask you if you want to flash it.
Say yes!
Hope this can help some people for whom the 1.32 RUUs aren't working for them
Thanks for putting up this post! I was about to request one last night.
Now if only there could be a similar guide to flashing custom ROMs
To force unroot, I could reinstall RUU 1.32.405.6 from Win7 without problems, a bit longer than updating/reinstalling a WinMo 6.5.x rom (my former HD2), but it went through...
Thanks Ivolol this worked a treat
Appreciate your guide and efforts.
I am running Win 7 64. folowed 1.15 method now running latest 1.32.405.6
Howling Wolf said:
To force unroot, I could reinstall RUU 1.32.405.6 from Win7 without problems, a bit longer than updating/reinstalling a WinMo 6.5.x rom (my former HD2), but it went through...
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Weird; I tested a couple of RUUs (not as many as xmoo did) and all of them couldn't connect to my phone (whereas 1.15 could).
It'd be interesting to find out what the factors are that cause this. ATM the guide above is what to do if someone finds themselves in the same situation (the current ROMs won't find the phone).
Howling Wolf said:
To force unroot, I could reinstall RUU 1.32.405.6 from Win7 without problems.
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+1 here, went through the normal RUU process fine just for ****s and giggles. I've extracted the ROM.zip though in case it's needed for future use.
sorry for the noob question..just had my DHD for the last 5 days. I come from galaxy S, and in there whenever we flash a rom all the data gets wiped out.
is it true also when we flash a RUU??
also if I do that...would i still be able to get OTA updates??
nandihno said:
sorry for the noob question..just had my DHD for the last 5 days. I come from galaxy S, and in there whenever we flash a rom all the data gets wiped out.
is it true also when we flash a RUU??
also if I do that...would i still be able to get OTA updates??
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I haven't got complete knowledge of the entire subject yet, but:
a RUU will completely wipe all user settings / apps. Won't do anything to the sd card though.
An update.zip is akin to an OTA update, it does not wipe user settings.
Flashing with a stock RUU will mean that you can still get OTA updates.
I've tried using the phone method and unable to flash successful. I believe you need a valid GoldCard to use this method.
Can you confirm if the GoldCard is required for doing it with the phone method?
In addition, once the unit (especially our Voda branded one) is flashed with the latest ROM, OTA may not run properly which will result in disabled functionality (as recorded in this thread: forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1575514, wifi stopped working). Theory said you'll need a GoldCard to get OTA to work properly (from another thread in XDA).
Thanks.
Great Guide thank you very much. Now i know to flash back to stock now if something gose wrong as iam a noob to android it took some time to work it out even tho it is a simple guide now i wanna know after getting perm root how do i flash a custom rom ? do i need clockwork mod?
tleehm said:
I've tried using the phone method and unable to flash successful. I believe you need a valid GoldCard to use this method.
Can you confirm if the GoldCard is required for doing it with the phone method?
In addition, once the unit (especially our Voda branded one) is flashed with the latest ROM, OTA may not run properly which will result in disabled functionality (as recorded in this thread: forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1575514, wifi stopped working). Theory said you'll need a GoldCard to get OTA to work properly (from another thread in XDA).
Thanks.
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There is a big reason I decided to buy my DHD outright and not through Vodafone
I'm pretty sure that Vodafone's OTAs will be different from HTC's. In order to get OTAs from Vodafone you will need their image on it.
Also with vodafone's ROM installed, I wouldn't think it would accept HTC's vanilla ROM/RUU without going through the entire root process (it would only accept Vodafone signed ROMs). So in order to get onto HTC's ROMs I would think you need to follow http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841076 before the phone will let you run a HTC RUU on it.
I haven't explored goldcards as I personally have no use for one, but you might also need one by the sounds of it for the Vodafone ROM to let you replace it. (edit: yes it looks like you need one to officially flash from a Vendor ROM to a generic one.)
So this guide is mainly for people with vanilla HTC phones. Although someone has posted a stock rooted Vodafone ROM on the phones so you might be able to use the same techniques outlined here with that.
ssimmmo said:
Great Guide thank you very much. Now i know to flash back to stock now if something gose wrong as iam a noob to android it took some time to work it out even tho it is a simple guide now i wanna know after getting perm root how do i flash a custom rom ? do i need clockwork mod?
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clockwork mod is useful but not entirely necessary. You might be able to use this guide's method to flash a custom ROM onto it (haven't tried yet), but otherwise I think what you need is a recovery img that will let you upload custom/unsigned ROMs onto it. And also S-OFF I imagine.
ok so i have S-OFF and clockwork mod recovery...
if i have the rom.zip and rename it to PD98IMG.zip and run bootloader.
i shouldnt have any problems flashing this rom??
BTW am using Aus branded Vodafone HDH.
also..IF i flash this rom..would i loose S-Off and clockwork recovery mod??
would flashing this allow me to gain OTA???
nandihno said:
ok so i have S-OFF and clockwork mod recovery...
if i have the rom.zip and rename it to PD98IMG.zip and run bootloader.
i shouldnt have any problems flashing this rom??
BTW am using Aus branded Vodafone HDH.
also..IF i flash this rom..would i loose S-Off and clockwork recovery mod??
would flashing this allow me to gain OTA???
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If you flash a stock RUU rom.zip then you will loose all custom apps, data, s-off, recovery, etc. It puts it to factory settings. If you are in the business of flashing ROMs then I wouldn't worry about OTA because the developers here will integrate HTC updates as they come out, if they come out
However yes I think if you flashed a stock RUU then you will be able to get OTA. You might still need a goldcard, I'm not exactly sure.
ivolol said:
mod: If this should be in DHD General, please move it
At the moment, sometimes current RUUs (ROM Update Utility) do not flash from the latest RUU exe - many times it will not recognise the Desire HD.
If you are having this problem, this is how to flash the latest stock RUU.
The latest RUU at the time of writing is 1.32.405.6.
You can download the RUUs from xmoo's thread or from mousey_'s site.
note: This is mainly for stock phones, for vendor-derived ones (e.g Vodafone DHDs in Australia) you will also need a goldcard.
Common Steps
Download the latest RUU (1.32.405.6).
Run it as administrator.
Tick the 'I understand the caution indicated above...' box, and click next.
At this point do not go any further.
Navigate to C:\Users\Ivo\AppData\Local\Temp (Replace my username with yours; AppData is a hidden folder)
You should see one or two folders like this:
{719CE201-7B12-4A13-9AF6-8F359FE69C7B}
Go into the one with dotnetinstaller.exe in it.
Open up the next folder.
Copy rom.zip into another folder (outside of temp).
At this point just Cancel and quit out of the ROM Update Utility.
A) Install through PC
Download and install HTC Sync 3.0 and restart.
Download the 1.15.405.1 Test RUU. It is the only one currently known to find the Android DHD.
Start it the same way as before, get to the
1. Connect the Smartphone to the USB Cable.
step. (but no further)
Again, go to the AppData local temp directory (same as above), and find the folder with dotnetinstaller.exe and inside that, rom.zip
You want to delete the rom.zip (which is the 1.15 version) and replace it with (copy back) the 1.32 rom.zip you copied out earler.
DO NOT UPDATE WITH 1.15 ROM, IT IS NOT DESIGNED FOR RETAIL DHDs.
Now click through the next buttons.
The 1.15 Utility should now be set to update with the 1.32 rom. You will see the version number of the rom at the final step.
Click update and watch the magic happen
B) or Install through Phone
With the rom.zip you copied out earlier, rename it PD98IMG.zip
Copy this onto the root of your microSD card through some means (disk drive, ftp, wireless).
Restart your phone and boot into the bootloader by holding power and volume down at the same time as it restarts.
It should go into the bootloader, take a fair while to check the zip on the sd card, and then ask you if you want to flash it.
Say yes!
Hope this can help some people for whom the 1.32 RUUs aren't working for them
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As I am Newbie of Android and I have noob quesitons. Could you please explain what is RUU and use this for what purpose?
Yeah. I got a goldcard inside of my phone but the bootloader doesn't recognize the P98IMG on my sdcard even though its there for sure. No idea how to fix this
Dr. lele said:
Yeah. I got a goldcard inside of my phone but the bootloader doesn't recognize the P98IMG on my sdcard even though its there for sure. No idea how to fix this
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How big is ur sd-card, and also what brand. Sometimes this is also a issue....
It's a kingston 8 gb class 4, but thanks for the tipp, I'll try another.
Yep, it was the sdcard xD. It's updating as I type
Carnt I just use the updater on the pc with the Rom? I have tried the method and I don't see a Rom file just a data1 file which is a ear file. I really would like stock ROM on my device
edit: i just used the exe and it installed perfect, so now it should be stock with no root,and sn
cxeka7 said:
As I am Newbie of Android and I have noob quesitons. Could you please explain what is RUU and use this for what purpose?
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An RUU is an exe which contains the stock 'firmware' from HTC to flash to your device. Basically it will do a full factory reset of your device. It won't wipe your sdcard but it will overwrite everything else.
it didnt asked me for anything on option B) or Install through Phone. i didnt get the option to flash it.
1. DOWNGRADE to 1.31 using this tutorial.
You do this by copying the RUU on your Goldcard and executing it.
2. Keep your Goldcard in, install this RUU.
Maybe other RUU files work too, I tried this one only. After successful install, check for updates on your phone, upgrade to 2.1-update1 and then again to FroYo!
It didnt work for me without step #1.
Edit: Instead of the RUU mentioned above under #2, you may install other Vodafone RUUs adapted to your country. Haven't tried them out though, but the UK Vodafone RUU seemed to work according to macnpaul.
this will give you vodaphone firmware with branded apps/etc? does the vodaphone froyo not have the CID check?
this gave me froyo with a boot screen from A1 and as far as I can tell no vodafone apps.
did you use the RUU_Legend_Vodafone_AT_GER_Mobilkom_1.31.177.3.. instead of the RUU mentioned in the tutorial or after downgrading to 1.31. as explained in the tutorial?
does this involve rooting ?
cos that tutorial seems to be for rooting :\
no, I don´t think this involves routing,
I think this changes the version number for you get no error 140 when loading an older RUU
This method does NOT involve rooting.
Do one step after the other. First you install the first ROM (non-Vodafone), then you install the second ROM and then the upgrade path to froyo is available to you. This avoids the [140] error.
did you use the RUU_Legend_Vodafone_AT_GER_Mobilkom_1.31.177.3.. instead of the RUU mentioned in the tutorial or after downgrading to 1.31. as explained in the tutorial?
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After downgrading as explained in the tutorial.
RunSeven said:
This method does NOT involve rooting.
Do one step after the other. First you install the first ROM (non-Vodafone), then you install the second ROM and then the upgrade path to froyo is available to you. This avoids the [140] error.
After downgrading as explained in the tutorial.
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HELP!!
I did exactly as described in the tutorial, i.e. downgraded my debranded Voadafone Legend from 2.05 to 1.31 and then installed the German 1.31 rom. No problems. I then used the phone to upgrade OTA to german vodafone 2.05, again no problem. Finally I then used OTA to get Froyo. The update downloaded OK and seemed to install OK. However, when the phone rebooted the touchscreen doesn't work and I can't unlock the phone to use it. I've tried rebooting several times by removing the battery and also clearing the cache and doing a factory reset - all to no avail. The phone works as a can call it but I can't answer it as tghe screen doesn't work.
As I can't get into the phone at all I can't even set debugging mode to downgrade back to something that works.
Can anybody help me?
Thanks in anicipation.
RunSeven said:
This method does NOT involve rooting.
Do one step after the other. First you install the first ROM (non-Vodafone), then you install the second ROM and then the upgrade path to froyo is available to you. This avoids the [140] error.
After downgrading as explained in the tutorial.
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HELP!!
I did exactly as described in the tutorial, i.e. downgraded my debranded Voadafone Legend from 2.05 to 1.31 and then installed the German 1.31 rom. No problems. I then used the phone to upgrade OTA to german vodafone 2.05, again no problem. Finally I then used OTA to get Froyo. The update downloaded OK and seemed to install OK. However, when the phone rebooted the touchscreen doesn't work and I can't unlock the phone to use it. I've tried rebooting several times by removing the battery and also clearing the cache and doing a factory reset - all to no avail. The phone works as a can call it but I can't answer it as tghe screen doesn't work.
As I can't get into the phone at all I can't even set debugging mode to downgrade back to something that works.
Can anybody help me?
Thanks in anicipation.
Look here, this might help... others have experienced it too, it does not seem to relate to the update method.
RunSeven said:
Look here, this might help... others have experienced it too, it does not seem to relate to the update method.
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Yeh, I had a look at that earlier. He managed to get into the phone though so he could make changes. Mine is just stuck solid on the lock screen. I did just notice that when it is starting up the language on the lock screen goes from german to english and then back to german. Weird.
Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated
you can´t get into bootloader?
nikst4 said:
you can´t get into bootloader?
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Yes I can. Will that help?
Another thing I tried that didn't help was renaming the German Froyo update file as update.zip and then installing from the SD though recovery. The full intallation seemed to happen but the screen still stays locked.
I also tried extracting firmware.zip from the update, renaming it to legeimg.zip and then puting it on the SD card. With a standard SD card fastboot says incorrect CID or something similar. With a goldcard it says no image or wrong image.
If it's of any use to anybody the Hboot version is on the phone 0.43.0001.
Probably a stupid question, I got a debranded vodafone legend with all the latests updates (apart from 2.2 obviously) and my hboot is 0.43.0001. But where can I check my rom version? Or is it 2.1 as shown under settings - software?
its something like 2.05.405.2 a little bit further down the menu.
Thanks that is what I ment. So I do need to downgrade first. Does anybody happen to have a mirror for the ruu file? Because shipped roms doesn't seem to work atm. All downloads get cut off.
Massive thanks to RunSeven
I followed the link to downgrade but used a vodafone UK rom (instead of the one mentioned) to put my Legend back to how it was before I debranded it. That allowed me to upgrade to FroYo using the OTA updates.
Obviously I now have the branding back, but I can live with that.
Worked for me!!
thanks !
Basically i'm after any advce please.
I debranded my Legend a few weeks ago (was UK Voda) its now on 2.03.405.3
I have an option ota to go to 2.05 then pressumably to froyo.
Do i give it a go, has anybody been able to get debranded to froyo via ota.
Or do i re-create a goldcard and go back to Voda 1.32 which i have downloaded ready.
If i stick with debranded and try froyo will it be any harder to go back to branded Vodafone after?
Or option 3 should i stick where i am and wait for a 2.2 RUU?
mancrunch said:
If i stick with debranded and try froyo will it be any harder to go back to branded Vodafone after?
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No, it won't be harder, I think. Probably the update to Froyo will fail with debranded rom, that is all.
mancrunch said:
Or option 3 should i stick where i am and wait for a 2.2 RUU?
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Don't know if that will ever arrive.
Right now, the previous rage/Visionary rooting methods do *not* work with the latest 1.72 ROMs for the Desire Z.
UPDATE - If you have upgraded to 1.72 already without S-OFF, then a temp root has been achieved for 1.72, which gives you the capability to downgrade to an earlier ROM (e.g. 1.34) where you can permanent root. The "psneuter" procedure is at via this procedure - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261
UPDATE 2 - This "psneuter" procedure can be used to achieve permanent root. If you obtain S-OFF at an earlier ROM level, *then* update to 1.72, you can get permaroot with psneuter, then use the usual methods to lock this in as a permanent root. This is because the S-OFF means the NAND write protection will not be enabled. If you are already at 1.72 without S-OFF, you will have to downgrade, obtain S-OFF, then upgrade again.
This ROM version is being rolled out as an OTA update to European DZ users. So far it doesn't seem to have been rolled out to other DZ carriers, e.g. Bell, Vodafone, though I suspect that it is only a matter of time.
This update does not *yet* affect the G2 running the stock T-Mobile ROM, though again I suspect this update will make its way to the G2 in time (so you might wish to turn off automatic checks for updates if you want to avoid the possibility).
This is an example of what is in the warning thread at the top of the forum, i.e. don't upgrade to this until we know how you can root it, assuming you are interested in root (which I think most, though not all, people here are).
I've tried all kinds of stuff but nothing works.
I've even made a goldcard with a PC10IMG.zip (rom extracted from RUU) but it gives me an error: MAIN VERSION OLD
So flashing back to an older version.............forget it!!
RUU, Visionary and Gfree method will not work with this stupid update!
Does anyone know what's in the 1.72 release that we're missing ? (And therefore whether its worth S-On & de-rooting)
Ramsfan_Jim said:
Does anyone know what's in the 1.72 release that we're missing ? (And therefore whether its worth S-On & de-rooting)
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The Virtuous ROM includes all the stuff in 1.72 already. So there's no point derooting and going S-ON, just install Virtuous.
Sticky worthy untill a solution is found.
rmk40 already found a solution to rooting these newer builds, but it requires changes to the SuperUser app. He's submitted those to the author but there hasn't been a new version release yet.
Hm,I`m now on stock 1.34.405.5 Firmware (RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.5_Radio_12.28b.60.140e _26.03.02.26_M)
but rooted and S-OFF with UBERROOT method!
Now if I flashing this Firmware I still have S-OFF but I lose
Root and can`t Root again right?
The same happens if I trie this Root and S-OFF method and flashing
the new Firmware:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
If you are desperate to try it, nandroid backup, google "extract rom.zip from ruu" and install through recovery.
..sent from my CyanogenMod'd HTC Vision
That will not work. I've already tried it.
maus010 said:
That will not work. I've already tried it.
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Why not?
..sent from my CyanogenMod'd HTC Vision
Glad there is a dedicated thread for this. I have applied the OTA (stupid me... should have read this forum first) and am now looking forward to getting root again so i can do SetCPU to underclock when screen off..
I'm happy to do any testing for those who get anythin working.
Also noticed in this new ROM (OTA) that when i plug in my wall charger, it goes straight into "CAR PANEL"?!
When i use the official HTC cable it does not - but when using a mini USB cable + micro USB adapter, it goes straight into car mode.
Does this have the same issue if you just flash the radio?
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Why not?
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Because it gives me an error: MAIN VERSION OLD
So it wil not flash.
As long as you still have a custom recovery (i.e. Clockwork), I can help. See the thread I just created here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886999
If not, sorry I cannot help. Obtaining root again is for the black hats around here.
I wont root my DZ since setCPU profiles dont work.
rmk40 said:
As long as you still have a custom recovery (i.e. Clockwork), I can help. See the thread I just created here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886999
If not, sorry I cannot help. Obtaining root again is for the black hats around here.
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Thanks for your help.
But the OTA update also flashed the bootloader and recovery back to stock.
The only thing positive with this update is the batterylife.
It hase improved bigtime!
Agree - battery seems heaps better.
Is anyone working on this? Got my DZ and subconsciously accepted.
Am now because I need to keep using the damn power button to wake it up!
zappoo said:
Also noticed in this new ROM (OTA) that when i plug in my wall charger, it goes straight into "CAR PANEL"?!
When i use the official HTC cable it does not - but when using a mini USB cable + micro USB adapter, it goes straight into car mode.
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There's a note in the manual for the DZ that says if you use an adapter it will think it's plugged into a car kit.
I'm new at this so i got all these noob qustions
First my DHD have built 2.42 with Arabic Regional Support ?
so
Do i need A Gold card ?
How do i know if my phone is S-Off or Not ??
What the best way to S-Off , Radio S-Off or Eng S-Off ?
When i downgrade will i loss my stock ROM ?
or i'll lose it at S-Off or rooting ?
Can i backup my stock ROM before i start rooting?
Rooting can mean radio off or/and eng off. Refer to desire HD development for rooting. Different build requires different ways to root.
Gold card, you will need one if your downgrading a branded phone. Branded phone includes any network locked phones and also unlocked phones. Even if you buy your phone out right from somewhere, there's still a big chance that it was locked previously. You will know when it says incorrect CID when your downgrade in bootloader.
Either radio or eng off allows you to flash any custom ROM, for beginners its recommended to have radio as its easier, while enthusiast have eng off, but most of the time, both. However to flash a radio, the recommended way is to have both off
The question about backing up your current ROM. After you root, go download a recovery app namely ROM manager which lets you back up your current ROM, meaning you can restore your stock ROM anytime you want. Hope that clears up a bit.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App
You only need a goldcard if your dhd is network branded.
If you havent done anything to it yet it will have S-on
All the information you need is in the first post of this thread Link
If you downgrade it you will get a clean stock rom, losing all the data you havent backed up eg contacts, apps, app data. Anything on your sd card will be unaffected and you can use mybackup (30 Day Trial/Full Version/Root Version) to backup you data (but not app data because you dont have root).
Root your phone and use the root version (also free) to restore the backup. It restores with one click but the non-root versions need you to confirm each app installation.
First i'd like to thank u for ur reply , its very helpful
So i got this facts now, Correct me if i'm wrong
1- The best is to have both Radio and Eng S-off
2- I only need Gold Card if get incorrect CID
3- Downgrade , S-off and Rooting , wont replace my Stock ROM and i can back it up
Using ROM manager
4- I can backup my Info Using mybackup
Is this information correct ?
Hi,
i used TiTanium backup after a temp root and this very good guide in Desire HD dev topic:
[GUIDE] How to downgrade 1.7x/1.8x/2.x to 1.32.405.6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
Brgs,
Herold
miahegypt said:
First i'd like to thank u for ur reply , its very helpful
So i got this facts now, Correct me if i'm wrong
1- The best is to have both Radio and Eng S-off
2- I only need Gold Card if get incorrect CID
3- Downgrade , S-off and Rooting , wont replace my Stock ROM and i can back it up
Using ROM manager
4- I can backup my Info Using mybackup
Is this information correct ?
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That is correct. But if you have to choose between eng off or radio off, radio off is a better choice because it's more permanent. You can still remove it whenever you want
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miahegypt said:
3- Downgrade , S-off and Rooting , wont replace my Stock ROM and i can back it up
Using ROM manager
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i think downgrading does replace your stock rom, just with another stock rom. but it'll be like a brand new phone out of the box after you downgrade, everything will be wiped.
i did the downgrade using the link posted above, and i didn't realise it would do that. I thought i could downgrade, root, back up, flash rom, restore. turns out i should've backed up before downgrade.
maatsby said:
i think downgrading does replace your stock rom, just with another stock rom. but it'll be like a brand new phone out of the box after you downgrade, everything will be wiped.
i did the downgrade using the link posted above, and i didn't realise it would do that. I thought i could downgrade, root, back up, flash rom, restore. turns out i should've backed up before downgrade.
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after you have downgraded, you could always do an OTA update. so essentially its still the stock ROM that your phone came with.
miahegypt said:
How do i know if my phone is S-Off or Not ??
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you also asked this, please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193483
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after you have downgraded, you could always do an OTA update. so essentially its still the stock ROM that your phone came with.
If i did OTA Update after Downgrading , S-Off then Rooting , will i have to do this all over again
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miahegypt said:
If i did OTA Update after Downgrading , S-Off then Rooting , will i have to do this all over again
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only the rooting part
miahegypt said:
becoolboy said:
after you have downgraded, you could always do an OTA update. so essentially its still the stock ROM that your phone came with.
If i did OTA Update after Downgrading , S-Off then Rooting , will i have to do this all over again
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If your radio off, no, you don't have to root again. Radio off is one of the most permanent thing you can do to your phone. However you can still radio off anytime you want.
However, if your only eng off, you might have to, depending on what version of bootloader you upgraded to.
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miahegypt said:
If your radio off, no, you don't have to root again. Radio off is one of the most permanent thing you can do to your phone. However you can still radio off anytime you want.
However, if your only eng off, you might have to, depending on what version of bootloader you upgraded to.
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Seems Like Radio S-off is the best choice , thanks a lot
i'l try to write the steps i got from all of that
i need to be organized so i won't make a deadly mistake and brick my brand new DHD
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miahegypt said:
becoolboy said:
Seems Like Radio S-off is the best choice , thanks a lot
i'l try to write the steps i got from all of that
i need to be organized so i won't make a deadly mistake and brick my brand new DHD
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Haha yea that might be a smart thing to do. But I don't think it's that easy to brick a phone. You have to either utterly retarded or very unlucky.
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OK now i think i got all the information i need for rooting my phone
I'll Write it Down to make sure that every thing will work ok
1- I'll backup my Contacts , Data , apps and my apps information using mybackup
2- Create A Gold Card using Steps in this link
3- Copy PD98IMG to my newly made goldcard
4- With My DHD plugged into my computer; on the device, i'll go into:
Settings > Applications > Development ; Check on "USB Debugging",
then exit back to the main screen
5- Start to Downgrade my DHD Using instruction in this Guide
6- Root my Device Using this Guide
7- Radio S-off my DHD using this Guide
9- ENG S-off my DHD using this Guide
10- I'll Do OTA Update to update to my latest Stock ROM
11- Use ROM manager to backup my stock ROM
Finally i backed up my data and my stock ROM and i'm ready to flash Custom ROM for my DHD
I hope these steps are right , Can some on confirm it ?
miahegypt said:
OK now i think i got all the information i need for rooting my phone
I'll Write it Down to make sure that every thing will work ok
1- I'll backup my Contacts , Data , apps and my apps information using mybackup
2- Create A Gold Card using Steps in this link
3- Copy PD98IMG to my newly made goldcard
4- With My DHD plugged into my computer; on the device, i'll go into:
Settings > Applications > Development ; Check on "USB Debugging",
then exit back to the main screen
5- Start to Downgrade my DHD Using instruction in this Guide
6- Root my Device Using this Guide
7- Radio S-off my DHD using this Guide
9- ENG S-off my DHD using this Guide
10- I'll Do OTA Update to update to my latest Stock ROM
11- Use ROM manager to backup my stock ROM
Finally i backed up my data and my stock ROM and i'm ready to flash Custom ROM for my DHD
I hope these steps are right , Can some on confirm it ?
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Comments on your steps.
1. i havent actually personally tried mybackup. but you do realise restoring apps and data from your stock to a custom ROM is different than restoring it onto a stock RUU, simply because custom ROMs might run slightly different. but by all means, try it. i am sure thats not enough to break your phone. you might have to redownload some of the apps tho.
another interesting thing to add is, gmail syncs your contact your email. after a fresh flash, all you have to do is resync. it doesnt give back your msges tho.
3. format your sdcard to fat32. this is important because larger sd cards default format cant be read by bootloader.
6. rooting can be divided into 2 types, eng-off and radio-off. what your doing here is an eng off procedure. skip step 9 all together.
7. make sure you radio off since you will be updating to OTA. some OTA breaks eng off, but radio off would still remain.
10. you might have to eng off (radio off would remain) again if you do an OTA update. i suggest moving step 6 after step 11
keep us posted on your status. good luck.
becoolboy said:
Comments on your steps.
1. i havent actually personally tried mybackup. but you do realise restoring apps and data from your stock to a custom ROM is different than restoring it onto a stock RUU, simply because custom ROMs might run slightly different. but by all means, try it. i am sure thats not enough to break your phone. you might have to redownload some of the apps tho.
another interesting thing to add is, gmail syncs your contact your email. after a fresh flash, all you have to do is resync. it doesnt give back your msges tho.
3. format your sdcard to fat32. this is important because larger sd cards default format cant be read by bootloader.
6. rooting can be divided into 2 types, eng-off and radio-off. what your doing here is an eng off procedure. skip step 9 all together.
7. make sure you radio off since you will be updating to OTA. some OTA breaks eng off, but radio off would still remain.
10. you might have to eng off (radio off would remain) again if you do an OTA update. i suggest moving step 6 after step 11
keep us posted on your status. good luck.
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thanks a lot for u help
1- that not a big issue for me , i might skip it
3- i got this part it's in making gold card Guide
6- Then this guide Eng S-off the device , did i got that right ?
7- I got this one and i know i'll lose Eng S-off , all i need is to backup my stock ROM , then i might Eng s-off again
10- i don't get this one , can i use Rom manager before rooting ? how can i backup my ROM without rooting ? or do u mean moving step 6 after step 10 not 11 ?
miahegypt said:
thanks a lot for u help
1- that not a big issue for me , i might skip it
3- i got this part it's in making gold card Guide
6- Then this guide Eng S-off the device , did i got that right ?
7- I got this one and i know i'll lose Eng S-off , all i need is to backup my stock ROM , then i might Eng s-off again
10- i don't get this one , can i use Rom manager before rooting ? how can i backup my ROM without rooting ? or do u mean moving step 6 after step 10 not 11 ?
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6. yup, that guide gives you eng off and proceed to step 7 to radio off. skip 9 since its the same as step 6
10. oops, sorry my bad, i meant move it after 10. but it doesnt matter really, since you have radio off (the permanent one), you can even backup stock ROM before you try to eng off. remember, radio off is also one kind of rooting and its 'permanent'
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6. yup, that guide gives you eng off and proceed to step 7 to radio off. skip 9 since its the same as step 6
10. oops, sorry my bad, i meant move it after 10. but it doesnt matter really, since you have radio off (the permanent one), you can even backup stock ROM before you try to eng off. remember, radio off is also one kind of rooting and its 'permanent'
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thanks a lot u have been very helpful
i'v found a much much simpler guide here
it's mostly automated and very organized
what do u think ?
Looks good. But I can't personally vouch for it since i never use his frevo toolkit before. But from what I can guess it's just automated script to run adb commands. So it should be safe. I say go ahead and enjoy rooting and flashing and tweaking and so on.
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Depois de ROOT
Staff follow procedures for downgrade, I performed the root, did s-off, has to generate the GoldCard and applied correctly, now I have 2.2 Froyo routed everything right. Room Manager installed, I tried to install many more roms on the device restarts q always falls on a screen with a red exclamation warning. What remains to be done? What went wrong? I have to update the Froyo 2.2 for Ginger? if so? how? help! Thank you!