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I rooted my Desire Z with gfree gfree ("Permaroot", S-Off, CID 11111111) according to the guide in the XDA-Wiki.
Of course i still have the backup of "partition 7" ("part7backup-<time>.bin") and i did a nandroid backup directly after rooting.
How and in which order i can revert completly to stock (without S-off, root, busybox, ...)?
There is an explanation in the Wiki:
Returning_to_Stock
But is this enough? su, busybox, superuser.apk are still in the flash, isn't it?
Installing busybox and having a file called "Superuser.apk" on your phone isn't enough to void your warranty. Just remove the Superuser app so it doesn't stick out like a sore thumb, and remove su from /system/bin if you like.
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I'm in a similar position, needing to return my Z due to a hardware defect I'd like to restore the stock image
I've been able to restore the stock OS image but my radio remains S-OFF and i no longer have the partition 7 backup made by g-free during unlocking (see aforementioned hardware fault)
Can i simply use the part7backup-timestamp.bin from another unlocked desire Z, and if so, would someone be kind enough to post theirs?
If not, what other recourse do i have?
steviewevie said:
Installing busybox and having a file called "Superuser.apk" on your phone isn't enough to void your warranty. Just remove the Superuser app so it doesn't stick out like a sore thumb, and remove su from /system/bin if you like.
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It's not because of warranty. Here in germany you can return things bought over the internet for 2 week. I was quite happy with my Desire Z and decided to keep it, so i rooted. After a few days i realized that i hardly never use the hardware keyboard and so i changed my mind and want to return it (for ordering a Desire HD).
FOr being able to return it, the device has to be in the state it was when i got it. So not only S-off, but also root should be undone completly.
Deebens said:
I'm in a similar position, needing to return my Z due to a hardware defect I'd like to restore the stock image
I've been able to restore the stock OS image but my radio remains S-OFF and i no longer have the partition 7 backup made by g-free during unlocking (see aforementioned hardware fault)
Can i simply use the part7backup-timestamp.bin from another unlocked desire Z, and if so, would someone be kind enough to post theirs?
If not, what other recourse do i have?
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You can use gfree to set S-ON, by running "gfree -s on" (see the Wiki). You can also reset the CID using gfree. However, if your phone was SIM locked and you unlocked it with gfree, you can only restore that lock by restoring the partition 7 backup. So you won't be able to do that bit if you need to restore the SIM lock.
steviewevie said:
You can use gfree to set S-ON, by running "gfree -s on" (see the Wiki). You can also reset the CID using gfree. However, if your phone was SIM locked and you unlocked it with gfree, you can only restore that lock by restoring the partition 7 backup. So you won't be able to do that bit if you need to restore the SIM lock.
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Thankyou for your swift reply!
I had wondered if this was all I had needed to do, but no matter how many times i read it i was not confident of this fact. Thanks for confirming for me.
Having resolved to restore my phone to stock, however, it is now behaving itself perfectly.
Blah.
Is there really no way to completly unroot?
Bierfreund said:
Is there really no way to completly unroot?
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Yes, you can re-flash the stock ROM which will be completely unrooted. When you do this, make sure you know what you are doing - e.g. if you flash an older stock ROM whilst you still have the eng hboot but no S-OFF via gfree, you could brick/semi-brick your phone.
It really depends if you've flashed a different ROM, exactly how you got S-OFF etc.
The simplest is if you have radio S-OFF via gfree, in which case you can flash a stock ROM, get temp root again (not perm root) and then use gfree to go back to S-ON (gfree -s on).
Edit: Got it fixed.
So is there no way to sim-lock it back without the partition7 backup? I had to run gfree twice for some reason on my G2 to get it to work, and it backed up the sim-unlocked partition7. Am I screwed out of sim-locking it back?
phoenx06 said:
So is there no way to sim-lock it back without the partition7 backup? I had to run gfree twice for some reason on my G2 to get it to work, and it backed up the sim-unlocked partition7. Am I screwed out of sim-locking it back?
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Are you saying you dont have the original "part7backup-timestamp.bin"? Do you need your sim unlock back on for warranty? I doubt they will check if you sim unlocked your phone and even if they do T-mobile freely gives out the unlock code for your phone to there loyal Tmobile customers, so I doubt the sim unlock affects your warranty.
Hi guys,
I've 2 Part7backup because i had to run gfree twice - gfree 05 and gfree 02.
Got S-off with the 2nd gfree 02
Not knowing they're important, i deleted both of them.
I've only manage to retrieve the 1 of the deleted part7backup which belongs to the gfree 05.
Are both the Part7backup the same?
Can i run gfree again the 2nd time to get the Part7backup file?
Thanks.
With out redoing sim lock can we still just s-on with sim lock still being off
Ok I got my G2 when it first came out. Used the old rage method to get S-OFF and perma root. Now i'm reading people say that they have "real" S-OFF and real permaroot. Do I have to do the "gfree" method now or is my phone good as it is?
I understand that with gfree you can unlock your SIM and you can switch between S-OFF and S-ON.. I'd like to have those functions. How should I go about it? Do I do a factory reset to go back to stock and unroot and then use gfree method or is there a simpler way to do it?
Here's what I have right now:
Stock rom, I NEVER installed any OTA's.
I have Baconbits.
My baseband is: 12.22.60.09bU_26.02.01.15_M2
Kernel: 2.6.32.21-cyanogenmod [email protected]#1
Build #: 1.19.531.1 CL255798 release-keys
Thanks for all the help.
Since you have root and a stock rom installed, just run gfree -- that is ALL you need to do. The advantage, aside from unlocking the radio, is that with the proper s-off, there is some new security for the radio... for unbricking and for being able to withstand accidental OTA updates. A true radio s-off can take an OTA update containing BOTH an SPL and a Radio, and yet s-off remains.
dhkr234 said:
Since you have root and a stock rom installed, just run gfree -- that is ALL you need to do. The advantage, aside from unlocking the radio, is that with the proper s-off, there is some new security for the radio... for unbricking and for being able to withstand accidental OTA updates. A true radio s-off can take an OTA update containing BOTH an SPL and a Radio, and yet s-off remains.
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I'm in the same boat as the OP. How do i go about just running gfree?
sent from my V I S I O N.
Well I'm rooted with the old method as well but because I I cant flash cwm 3.x with the gree method. You need the eng hboot so ill stick with the old method until clockwork makes it work with the gfree method.
Sent from my gSpot2
PatrickHuey said:
I'm in the same boat as the OP. How do i go about just running gfree?
sent from my V I S I O N.
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See the Wiki for details. Assuming you are running a kernel where gfree works (again, see the Wiki on this), you just need a root shell on your phone, copy gfree to your phone (e.g. via adb push), then run gfree with the appropriate options, e.g. "./gfree -f".
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
elracing21 said:
Well I'm rooted with the old method as well but because I I cant flash cwm 3.x with the gree method. You need the eng hboot so ill stick with the old method until clockwork makes it work with the gfree method.
Sent from my gSpot2
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Using gfree does not get rid of the engineering hboot (or modify your existing hboot in anyway), so it's safe to do. And even if this was not the case, you can still flash the CWM3 recovery without the engineering hboot, only you'll have to use a different method than fastboot.
dhkr234 said:
Since you have root and a stock rom installed, just run gfree -- that is ALL you need to do. The advantage, aside from unlocking the radio, is that with the proper s-off, there is some new security for the radio... for unbricking and for being able to withstand accidental OTA updates. A true radio s-off can take an OTA update containing BOTH an SPL and a Radio, and yet s-off remains.
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thanks for responding. so this will work even though i dont have a stock kernel?
also, as far as OTA's go, you mean that if after i run gfree i will be able to apply the OTA without it unrooting my phone?
thank you
konoplya said:
thanks for responding. so this will work even though i dont have a stock kernel?
also, as far as OTA's go, you mean that if after i run gfree i will be able to apply the OTA without it unrooting my phone?
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Not sure about Baconbits, check the Wiki for the list of kernels that are known not to work with gfree.
If you apply the OTA after unlocking with gfree, you will still lose root but you won't lose the S-OFF and other stuff from gfree.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
steviewevie said:
Not sure about Baconbits, check the Wiki for the list of kernels that are known not to work with gfree.
If you apply the OTA after unlocking with gfree, you will still lose root but you won't lose the S-OFF and other stuff from gfree.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
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ok, i see. so if i loose root would i just have to run gfree again after I install OTA to gain root back?
konoplya said:
ok, i see. so if i loose root would i just have to run gfree again after I install OTA to gain root back?
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Not just gfree on its own, but you will need to go through the steps of getting temp root then perm root, which does use gfree as part of it. It's all in the Wiki.
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ok, i see. so if i loose root would i just have to run gfree again after I install OTA to gain root back?
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gfree does NOT root your phone. It UNLOCKS RADIO SECURITY -- permanently. You only run it ONCE, you NEVER have to run it again... EVER.
With UNLOCKED RADIO SECURITY, gaining root is TRIVIAL.
What gets root is RAGE or PSNEUTER.
dhkr234 said:
gfree does NOT root your phone. It UNLOCKS RADIO SECURITY -- permanently. You only run it ONCE, you NEVER have to run it again... EVER.
With UNLOCKED RADIO SECURITY, gaining root is TRIVIAL.
What gets root is RAGE or PSNEUTER.
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Yeah but gfree is often used as part of the rooting process, so I can see why people associate gfree with rooting.
gfree might be run more than once on a phone as part of the process to lock in root, i.e. to defeat the NAND write protection. Even though it's only needed once to unlock the radio etc, you might run it other times if you need to root a stock ROM and updates to that ROM.
gfree can be used to unlock radio security, but it has other options too. Sorry but I think your reply might confuse more people than it helps.
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Help me please! I tried to find my answer, but i'm not sure.
Can be possible use the update.zip without any modification? Or i need change the hboot?
Thank you!
Janaboy
I'm perm rooted! but I lost the ota update cause I was simi-brick how can I get the OTA update? do I have to to a factory reset?
You should get the OTA right away after restarting the phone, I know I did after going back to stock on just Saturday of this week. The first time I connected to the network it said an update was available and it was the OTA.
that hasnt happen and it need to hurry up!! lol
So do a Factory reset?
hiya guys, im kinda in the same boat. Just got the g2 with build 1.22.531.8 and perma rooted it with visionary/rage method. I want to get supercid, sim unlock with gfree. can someone post or direct me to instructions on how to do so? thanks for helping a noob.
aok680 said:
hiya guys, im kinda in the same boat. Just got the g2 with build 1.22.531.8 and perma rooted it with visionary/rage method. I want to get supercid, sim unlock with gfree. can someone post or direct me to instructions on how to do so? thanks for helping a noob.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Unlock_the_Phone.2C_Set_SuperCID.2C_and_Turn_Radio_S-OFF
I need to send my Mytouch 4g in for repair due to an issue with "limited service" problems. Both T-Mobile and HTC said it is a rare problem and it needs to come in for repair.
My problem is that my phone is/has been rooted. I need to COMPLETELY UNROOT it before sending it in, or they will not repair/replace.
What can I do to completely unroot so they will not know that it was ever rooted?
I have run the unlockr method with the PD15IMG but Im not sure that is it. What else can do to see that it was rooted? Is there anything other than info in the bootloader? I turned the S-On again.
PS - the issue with my phone is when i put in my SIM card (under any rom, including stock) it comes back with a message saying "limited service" and i cannot do anything to fix it. If you have an answer for this too, that would be helpful.
Either way I dont want to lost this phone due to root/warranty problems.
Thanks ahead of time....
How did you root it? Did you use gfree and simunlock? Did you flash engineering hboot? Did you S-OFF? Did you flash custom images?
There are a lot of questions to answer in what to undo.
If you SIM/Super CID unlocked and radio S-OFF with gfree then you need to follow the instructions in the gfree thread on how to restore your part7 backup.
If you flashed the engineering hboot, again, follow info in the gfree thread on how to flash it back to stock.
Once you are back to normal hboot and S-ON, just loading the PD15IMG for the complete OTA (find the thread in the dev section) will factory wipe and clear the rest for you.
Thanks for the quick reply. I followed the unlockr method completely to gain root.
theunlockr.com/2010/12/10/how-to-gain-permanent-root-and-s-off-on-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-htc-glacier/
Then I installed Iced Glacier.
I also did their unroot method which includes flashing the PD15IMG and turning the S-On. Normally, should I receive an OTA after flashing this? Or is this THE updated image?
If is should expect an OTA, I will not get it. The reason i need to send the phone in is because i do not get service with the SIM card in. It reads "Limited service" "Emergency Calls Only". In this case, i would not recieve an OTA. Is there anything else I can do?
Thanks again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Scroll down to "follow these steps to restore stock hboot (0.86.0000) and flash that back on if you have not already.
If you flashed the PD15IMG from this thread then it already has the OTA updated applied and you should be g2g.
Thank you very much. That is a huge help.
After updating the HBoot and flashing the PD15IMG we should be back to stock.
Is there any way after that HTC will see it as previously rooted?
I thought to myself that the hackers were smarter than the developers.... Im glad I was right.
Thanks again.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
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Is there any way after that HTC will see it as previously rooted?
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With S-ON, a stock hboot, and a fresh flash of the OTA image -- no, not to my knowledge.
Ok so I am expecting to receive a replacement for the BAD SCREEN (inferior) issue. So preparing to get my phone to STOCK condition.
--------PRESENT STATE----------
Rooted - using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021
S=OFF
Radio - 26.09.04.26
ROM - Nexus AOSP 1.2.7
Recovery - 3.0.2.4
----------STOCK STATE------------
Unroot - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924923
S=ON
Radio - 26.03.02.26 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059347
Recovery - ????
Now I kind of know where I need to be at but I am not sure of the sequence of the steps. Also, how do I get back to stock recovery from Clockwork?
Is there a good check list of things to make sure before sending back the old phone?
thanks a lot.
for unroot
download stock rom from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901477
rename it PD15IMG.zip and put it in the root of your sdcard not in a folder
go into hboot by powering off then hold VOL DOWN+POWER
then it will automatically check to find PD15IMG.zip when it ask for update click yes
wait for it to install done stock unroot
Thanks for your reponse. I was aware of that method and was planning on using it. Does that also take care of clockwork recovery and updated radio?
Hello
If I install a stock rom on rooted/sim unlocked phone via gfree, would I lose the sim unlock?
I understand I will get the S-On back, I am more concerned about Sim Unlock.
Thanks.
I believe so. Your flashing a complete stock image, which restores everything to stock. If you do go thought with it, im pretty sure you can call tmobile to get the unlock code.
From my fist, to your face! Enjoy!
If you install a stock ROM on gfree-unlocked phone, you'll remain S-OFF. No amount of flashing will restore S-ON, since gfree modifies the flag itself, which is not rewritten by ROMs. You can lock it back by using gfree, if you want, but - and here's your second answer - SIM will be unlocked forever, no matter what you do. Some people on this forum tested it and arrived to this conclusion.
I am in this situation right now. I have a HTC Panache, which is S-OFF (using JGobeil's method, which I believe you helped devised a lot). I am planning on giving the phone to my girlfriend and get another one, thus transferring my SIM card into the new phone and having her get a new SIM.
Will that be a problem with my rooted phone? Will I be able to keep my phone rooted and have the SIM card installed and working without hiccups?
Thanks!
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I am in this situation right now. I have a HTC Panache, which is S-OFF (using JGobeil's method, which I believe you helped devised a lot). I am planning on giving the phone to my girlfriend and get another one, thus transferring my SIM card into the new phone and having her get a new SIM.
Will that be a problem with my rooted phone? Will I be able to keep my phone rooted and have the SIM card installed and working without hiccups?
Thanks!
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Of cause yes man! They will no any problems for root! How a sim card change root.lol
So I got a mt4g from someone who unlocked it using the bootloader using the HTC dev method. if I boot into the bootloader it shows s off. The phone was updated to gb so how do I go about rooting it? From what I've seen it says you have to downgrade if your on gb but this phone has s off already.
Hopefully someone can help out I would really like to root, install cwm and flash a Rom on here tonight if possible
S-OFF means the phone wasn't unlocked by HTCDev, but rooted and S-OFFed in the past.
Go to Development section, look at the stickies. One of them says "S-OFF only". Take a guess, what is it there for.