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How much RAM does vibrant have?

I know its supposed to have 512mb.
But the app manager program I'm using shows 326.
I'm not complaining, phone is plenty fast but I'm Rom crazy and I'm just making sure I didn't mess something up.
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Trev420 said:
I know its supposed to have 512mb.
But the app manager program I'm using shows 326.
I'm not complaining, phone is plenty fast but I'm Rom crazy and I'm just making sure I didn't mess something up.
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I believe the rest is dedicated to the software and free is 326. I could be wrong ..

I read somewhere that only Froyo can utilize 512 and up.

512mb on device

frankwhitten said:
I read somewhere that only Froyo can utilize 512 and up.
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This
The current .29 kernel has a memory limitation.
Froyo comes with .32 "himem" kernel so when we get froyo you utilize all your ram

i am showing 1.16GB available for application storage.. it this the same?

ROM and RAM are different. When people speak of memory its generally referring to RAM. ROM is the storage space used for apps.

JIT and the .32 kernel would be so nice on this phone.

So does this mean we are not using all the RAM available on the phone!? That's stupid!

I agree.
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nealpatel said:
So does this mean we are not using all the RAM available on the phone!? That's stupid!
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Unless u run android 2.2, you will not use max 512MB ram capacity. If u installed lag fix, u can use 326MB out of 512MB. Without lagfix, u can only use 256MB out of 512MB!

There is only a bit over 300 mb app ram. The rest is graphivs ram. You won't see 512 ram in froyo because normal apps can't use the graphics memory. Laughable considering the sad shape which is gaming on android.
But hey, you got sims 3!
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Question to Froyo users?

Does froyo recognize the full 512mb of ram, if so does this lend itself to better performance
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no
it recognizes 340 something or 380 something

What's that other space used for? Why isn't it available?
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In the leaked tmo froyo there is 304 available. The rest of it I believe is used for video/graphic procesing and other core processes.

Spokenblurb said:
Does froyo recognize the full 512mb of ram, if so does this lend itself to better performance
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Not the whole 512 but I'm using Eugenes Unofficial TMO 2.2 Froyo and it is a good amount faster, especially browsing.

jeremiah_mn said:
In the leaked tmo froyo there is 304 available. The rest of it I believe is used for video/graphic procesing and other core processes.
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+1, there are dedicated allocation of ram to certain system needs whether there running or not.
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ICS Sources has been released!

http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/4f85d9242667a85f?pli=1
Awesome news guys! So anybody going to start trying porting it for our devices ? I wonder can our silly GT540 run it :s

Wait a day or two before syncing the repo the source is still being transfered to the git archive
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sweet!!!! now if i can just be patient enough to wait now!

Great to hear that, but I don't think that ICS will run smoothly the GT540. I'm already planing to buy a Motorola Defy for using CM9.

Me I'm just waiting CM9 ^^
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yep hope the cm team starts working on it soon!

I got the soruce now it is simmilar to GB so I will get it to run fast
EDIT: IT is making now Don't worry GB v6 I made on monday

mikegapinski said:
I got the soruce now it is simmilar to GB so I will get it to run fast
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Thank you I could just kiss you lol
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mikegapinski said:
I got the soruce now it is simmilar to GB so I will get it to run fast
EDIT: IT is making now Don't worry GB v6 I made on monday
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So its going to take awhile to compile then?
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Up to 6h I think, that source is much bigger than GB

mikegapinski said:
Up to 6h I think, that source is much bigger than GB
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What's the odds of everything in the gb builds going to work?
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wow mike you are god!

mikegapinski said:
Up to 6h I think, that source is much bigger than GB
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How many occupy hard disk space?

miroslav_mm said:
How many occupy hard disk space?
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Its a 6gb download and you need 30gb for a single build not to mention a super computer
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eoghan2t7 said:
Its a 6gb download and you need 30gb for a single build not to mention a super computer
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he will convert 6gb to 130mb?

cccb010 said:
he will convert 6gb to 130mb?
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LOL all the builds do that -.- gb, froyo....

bs828 said:
LOL all the builds do that -.- gb, froyo....
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GB source was ~2.5GB big. ICS is almost 3 times. So I think it would be around 180 - 200 MB.
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soruce is 10gb just after download and 35 after swift build
To developers:
Ics repo is using different device configs so quarx, mur4ik or any "ready" device folder won't work And framework audio files are not maching GB ones so i will need to use generice CA audio witch should work nice ... And I needed to add extra ram to even start the build ... 16gb of ddr3 is min and at least 4 cores at 4ghz is needed to build ICS fine
But anyways !
Let's roll :

It seems so. Are you wondering? Requirements a nearly the same as for gingerbread.
PS: Here is the article: Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich Minimum Hardware Requirements

How match memory gt540 have?
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Android -> Jelly Bean

I was looking around and found the Google plans to release Jelly Bean (5.0) in November of this year! So my question is, will the Cyangen(Mod) developers make this available for our Epic 4g. And also what new features will it feature? There's a rumor we will have an official personal assistant in the OS.
-2348z Epic 4G-> CM9 Beta0

Give it some time
Don't be so impatient
We'll know eventually
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I am patient, just wanted to know if anyone had a leak
-2348z Epic 4G-> CM9 Beta0

Can you provide the site or doc you got this from
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2348z said:
I am patient, just wanted to know if anyone had a leak
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A Leak? Google hasn't even said anything publicly about it yet and your asking for a leak? lol. ICS barely handles on our phone, are phones have 360Mb of Ram after everything said and done but ICS requires 400Mb so were sliding along. Jelly Bean unless its less aggressive but doesn't require as much RAM as ICS, we wont be able to run it. Your talking about extremely new technology and software trying to handle the latest and greatest on older tech.
Put in terms of Trying to Run Win7 (PC) with only 256Mb of Ram, and 1.2GHz Single Core Processor Never going to happen lol.

Wouldnt you have upgraded to a new phone by November anyway? Maybe not but the majority of us will and i dont cyanogenmod would support a phone that would be nearly dead by the time of jelly bean. Our phones are lucky enough to run ICS.
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I have 383MB of RAM. But I agree that ICS itself should be more than enough to hold everyone over till upgrade time.
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Zeinzu said:
I have 383MB of RAM. But I agree that ICS itself should be more than enough to hold everyone over till upgrade time.
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if you go into TW task manager and look at ram it should say whatever amount your using and be exactly 359Mb im on Ginger Bread so im not exactly sure ICS is the same but how could you possibly have more? lol.
But if and ever Jelly Bean were to successfully be ported to this phone then it will hold up to its name be "EPIC"! The way i see it if the Samsung galaxy 3 or 5 can have ICS and run it most likely than this phone should handle more you'd think? it would be the only phone that would say it had 5 major OS Updates haha and kept alive even when considered old Tech.

ICS was just released...why would it be leaked? I don't think that kinda stuff gets leaked anyway.
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Flash cm9, go into manage apps, running, do the math for yourself.
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Zeinzu said:
Flash cm9, go into manage apps, running, do the math for yourself.
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Don't forget that the stock b0 cm9 kernel freed up an extra 36 mb of ram.
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ICS is barely chugging along on our phones. You would be sacrificing serious usability if the jelly bean was ported. ICS runs smooth, most of the time, but its clear that the epic is right on the edge.
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Jelly Bean and Cyanogenmod
I believe that once Jelly Bean gets dropped, if Cyanogen supports it there is a possibility we could get it. I had the original G1 running Cyanogen6 on it and that was long after the official updates stopped from Google/TMo. I mean if they can get Froyo on a device that stopped getting updates at Doughnut, I believe they can get some Jelly on a Gingerbread. This is just an opinion though. Either way I am fine with my ICS on my Epic.

2348z said:
I am patient, just wanted to know if anyone had a leak
I won't even bother reading what others have said about this statement. Your asking about a leak when you yourself stated this MAY be released in November. You sir, are an idiot.
-2348z Epic 4G-> CM9 Beta0
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b16flybye said:
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I believe he's asking for a leak of data.
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Frostacious said:
I believe he's asking for a leak of data.
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That's what I thought he meant too. As in leaked info about Jelly Bean in general.
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JBakey said:
Don't forget that the stock b0 cm9 kernel freed up an extra 36 mb of ram.
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If you wanna get technical that's the RAM left on the build. The device itself physically has 512MB of RAM doesn't it? The extra 36MB didn't magically appear out of thin air, it had to already physically be there to begin with.
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Zeinzu said:
The device itself physically has 512MB of RAM doesn't it?
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That was my thought. Is there a place where I can see a breakdown of the full 512mb?
Reason I ask, is under menu > manage apps> All, it lists 184mb used and 493mb free, and unless my math has gone screwy, that adds to 677mb which is more than 512mb
Also, under menu > system settings> storage, under apps, it shows total of 676mb, with 180mb used.
What gives??? Is this all due to the file system conversion to MTD?

DCRocks said:
That was my thought. Is there a place where I can see a breakdown of the full 512mb?
Reason I ask, is under menu > manage apps> All, it lists 184mb used and 493mb free, and unless my math has gone screwy, that adds to 677mb which is more than 512mb
Also, under menu > system settings> storage, under apps, it shows total of 676mb, with 180mb used.
What gives??? Is this all due to the file system conversion to MTD?
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I believe it that is storage space not RAM. Our phones are supposed to have 512 mb of ram. I am not 100 percent sure where you would find that actual break down though.
edit: the 676 megabytes under storage is the data partition. This is how much space you have to store apps on your internal storage. My guess is you would have to get some kind of ram manager in order to see the actual memory allocation.
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DCRocks said:
That was my thought. Is there a place where I can see a breakdown of the full 512mb?
Reason I ask, is under menu > manage apps> All, it lists 184mb used and 493mb free, and unless my math has gone screwy, that adds to 677mb which is more than 512mb
Also, under menu > system settings> storage, under apps, it shows total of 676mb, with 180mb used.
What gives??? Is this all due to the file system conversion to MTD?
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Those two parts are both listing internal storage space.
MTD conversion resized the partitions so storage has ~677MB.
Back to RAM.
There is 512MB total. On stock Epic drivers and kernel configs, ~165MB is dedicated to system space(kernel/driver/phone os) leaving ~347MB to user space (app memory).
Our cm devs have found out how to free up 36MB from the system by merging Nexus S drivers and sacrificing 1080p video playback (kinda overkill on a 800x480 screen anyway)
And tweaking some jpeg lib for another 1.9MB.
So right now we have ~384MB available in ICS.
And its still possible (AFAIK) to free up another ~32MB with the move to 3.0.x kernel (further merging with Nexus S base).
I think the 400MB(user space) requirement is for reaching the intended performance for ICS multi tasking.
I might not be 100% correct though.
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Porting Sense to Non-HTC Devices :D

Can someone try this out as I'm not much of a developer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1707177
It is an guide to port Sense.

NO
USE the search button first!

athulele said:
Can someone try this out as I'm not much of a developer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1707177
It is an guide to port Sense.
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Chris said what needed to be told..
But if you are so eager maybe you should try it yourself....Coz the guide is quite clear
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Ok....

Well , Sense can never be ported to X8 , no matter how hard you try since our device does not meet the minimum requirements to make Sense run.

Mayank77 said:
Well , Sense can never be ported to X8 , no matter how hard you try since our device does not meet the minimum requirements to make Sense run.
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but...what about htc wildfire s......it has almost same specs as x8.......just it has 5 mp cam and 256 mb ram.......and it has sense
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athulele said:
but...what about htc wildfire s......it has almost same specs as x8.......just it has 5 mp cam and 256 mb ram.......and it has sense
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NO! You know, camera and RAM isn't everything!

According to GSM ARENA:
MEMORY
Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 2GB included
Internal 512 MB ROM, 512 MB RAM (418 MB user-available)
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Ok