Does froyo recognize the full 512mb of ram, if so does this lend itself to better performance
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no
it recognizes 340 something or 380 something
What's that other space used for? Why isn't it available?
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In the leaked tmo froyo there is 304 available. The rest of it I believe is used for video/graphic procesing and other core processes.
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Does froyo recognize the full 512mb of ram, if so does this lend itself to better performance
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Not the whole 512 but I'm using Eugenes Unofficial TMO 2.2 Froyo and it is a good amount faster, especially browsing.
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In the leaked tmo froyo there is 304 available. The rest of it I believe is used for video/graphic procesing and other core processes.
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+1, there are dedicated allocation of ram to certain system needs whether there running or not.
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I know its supposed to have 512mb.
But the app manager program I'm using shows 326.
I'm not complaining, phone is plenty fast but I'm Rom crazy and I'm just making sure I didn't mess something up.
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Trev420 said:
I know its supposed to have 512mb.
But the app manager program I'm using shows 326.
I'm not complaining, phone is plenty fast but I'm Rom crazy and I'm just making sure I didn't mess something up.
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I believe the rest is dedicated to the software and free is 326. I could be wrong ..
I read somewhere that only Froyo can utilize 512 and up.
512mb on device
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I read somewhere that only Froyo can utilize 512 and up.
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This
The current .29 kernel has a memory limitation.
Froyo comes with .32 "himem" kernel so when we get froyo you utilize all your ram
i am showing 1.16GB available for application storage.. it this the same?
ROM and RAM are different. When people speak of memory its generally referring to RAM. ROM is the storage space used for apps.
JIT and the .32 kernel would be so nice on this phone.
So does this mean we are not using all the RAM available on the phone!? That's stupid!
I agree.
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So does this mean we are not using all the RAM available on the phone!? That's stupid!
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Unless u run android 2.2, you will not use max 512MB ram capacity. If u installed lag fix, u can use 326MB out of 512MB. Without lagfix, u can only use 256MB out of 512MB!
There is only a bit over 300 mb app ram. The rest is graphivs ram. You won't see 512 ram in froyo because normal apps can't use the graphics memory. Laughable considering the sad shape which is gaming on android.
But hey, you got sims 3!
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Ok maybe it is a dumb question, Ive read an made some search.
I flashed CM7 ROM 2.3.4 and this kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982148
And I have only 326 MB ram. Why?
Thats about right. Stock is around there and custom kernels push it to around 341 depending.
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I thought Vibrant had 512 MB ram.?
It does. The rest of it is devoted to the GPU.
Sneaky advertising. I've seen many company's do it.
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PabxH said:
I thought Vibrant had 512 MB ram.?
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late to the party, aren't we? this has been discussed many times already as to why there is the 512MB ram discrepancy.
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late to the party, aren't we? this has been discussed many times already as to why there is the 512MB ram discrepancy.
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Sure I'm late but still, thank you for your answers! Its all clear now.
The tech specs of the evo are set at 512mb of RAM however my phone only has a total of of 385mb of ram. Is this typical?
That doesn't take into account the OS. Which as you know is loaded into ram on boot.
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That doesn't take into account the OS. Which as you know is loaded into ram on boot.
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was not aware of that, thank you for the quick response. doesn't really matter haven't run into any memory problems just thought it was weird. Thanks again
I was looking around and found the Google plans to release Jelly Bean (5.0) in November of this year! So my question is, will the Cyangen(Mod) developers make this available for our Epic 4g. And also what new features will it feature? There's a rumor we will have an official personal assistant in the OS.
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Give it some time
Don't be so impatient
We'll know eventually
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I am patient, just wanted to know if anyone had a leak
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Can you provide the site or doc you got this from
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2348z said:
I am patient, just wanted to know if anyone had a leak
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A Leak? Google hasn't even said anything publicly about it yet and your asking for a leak? lol. ICS barely handles on our phone, are phones have 360Mb of Ram after everything said and done but ICS requires 400Mb so were sliding along. Jelly Bean unless its less aggressive but doesn't require as much RAM as ICS, we wont be able to run it. Your talking about extremely new technology and software trying to handle the latest and greatest on older tech.
Put in terms of Trying to Run Win7 (PC) with only 256Mb of Ram, and 1.2GHz Single Core Processor Never going to happen lol.
Wouldnt you have upgraded to a new phone by November anyway? Maybe not but the majority of us will and i dont cyanogenmod would support a phone that would be nearly dead by the time of jelly bean. Our phones are lucky enough to run ICS.
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I have 383MB of RAM. But I agree that ICS itself should be more than enough to hold everyone over till upgrade time.
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Zeinzu said:
I have 383MB of RAM. But I agree that ICS itself should be more than enough to hold everyone over till upgrade time.
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if you go into TW task manager and look at ram it should say whatever amount your using and be exactly 359Mb im on Ginger Bread so im not exactly sure ICS is the same but how could you possibly have more? lol.
But if and ever Jelly Bean were to successfully be ported to this phone then it will hold up to its name be "EPIC"! The way i see it if the Samsung galaxy 3 or 5 can have ICS and run it most likely than this phone should handle more you'd think? it would be the only phone that would say it had 5 major OS Updates haha and kept alive even when considered old Tech.
ICS was just released...why would it be leaked? I don't think that kinda stuff gets leaked anyway.
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Flash cm9, go into manage apps, running, do the math for yourself.
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Flash cm9, go into manage apps, running, do the math for yourself.
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Don't forget that the stock b0 cm9 kernel freed up an extra 36 mb of ram.
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ICS is barely chugging along on our phones. You would be sacrificing serious usability if the jelly bean was ported. ICS runs smooth, most of the time, but its clear that the epic is right on the edge.
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Jelly Bean and Cyanogenmod
I believe that once Jelly Bean gets dropped, if Cyanogen supports it there is a possibility we could get it. I had the original G1 running Cyanogen6 on it and that was long after the official updates stopped from Google/TMo. I mean if they can get Froyo on a device that stopped getting updates at Doughnut, I believe they can get some Jelly on a Gingerbread. This is just an opinion though. Either way I am fine with my ICS on my Epic.
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I am patient, just wanted to know if anyone had a leak
I won't even bother reading what others have said about this statement. Your asking about a leak when you yourself stated this MAY be released in November. You sir, are an idiot.
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I believe he's asking for a leak of data.
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I believe he's asking for a leak of data.
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That's what I thought he meant too. As in leaked info about Jelly Bean in general.
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Don't forget that the stock b0 cm9 kernel freed up an extra 36 mb of ram.
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If you wanna get technical that's the RAM left on the build. The device itself physically has 512MB of RAM doesn't it? The extra 36MB didn't magically appear out of thin air, it had to already physically be there to begin with.
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The device itself physically has 512MB of RAM doesn't it?
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That was my thought. Is there a place where I can see a breakdown of the full 512mb?
Reason I ask, is under menu > manage apps> All, it lists 184mb used and 493mb free, and unless my math has gone screwy, that adds to 677mb which is more than 512mb
Also, under menu > system settings> storage, under apps, it shows total of 676mb, with 180mb used.
What gives??? Is this all due to the file system conversion to MTD?
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That was my thought. Is there a place where I can see a breakdown of the full 512mb?
Reason I ask, is under menu > manage apps> All, it lists 184mb used and 493mb free, and unless my math has gone screwy, that adds to 677mb which is more than 512mb
Also, under menu > system settings> storage, under apps, it shows total of 676mb, with 180mb used.
What gives??? Is this all due to the file system conversion to MTD?
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I believe it that is storage space not RAM. Our phones are supposed to have 512 mb of ram. I am not 100 percent sure where you would find that actual break down though.
edit: the 676 megabytes under storage is the data partition. This is how much space you have to store apps on your internal storage. My guess is you would have to get some kind of ram manager in order to see the actual memory allocation.
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That was my thought. Is there a place where I can see a breakdown of the full 512mb?
Reason I ask, is under menu > manage apps> All, it lists 184mb used and 493mb free, and unless my math has gone screwy, that adds to 677mb which is more than 512mb
Also, under menu > system settings> storage, under apps, it shows total of 676mb, with 180mb used.
What gives??? Is this all due to the file system conversion to MTD?
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Those two parts are both listing internal storage space.
MTD conversion resized the partitions so storage has ~677MB.
Back to RAM.
There is 512MB total. On stock Epic drivers and kernel configs, ~165MB is dedicated to system space(kernel/driver/phone os) leaving ~347MB to user space (app memory).
Our cm devs have found out how to free up 36MB from the system by merging Nexus S drivers and sacrificing 1080p video playback (kinda overkill on a 800x480 screen anyway)
And tweaking some jpeg lib for another 1.9MB.
So right now we have ~384MB available in ICS.
And its still possible (AFAIK) to free up another ~32MB with the move to 3.0.x kernel (further merging with Nexus S base).
I think the 400MB(user space) requirement is for reaching the intended performance for ICS multi tasking.
I might not be 100% correct though.
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I'm wondering about buying a flipside
I want to know flipside have howmany ram ?
I read many information, some say that it has 512 MB but some say it has 256 ??
What 's the truth ?
RAM=512MB
Now MIUI ROM is work on filpside.
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RAM=512MB
Now MIUI ROM is work on filpside.
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the MIUI ROM of Milestone ???
phapsubongtoi said:
I'm wondering about buying a flipside
I want to know flipside have howmany ram ?
I read many information, some say that it has 512 MB but some say it has 256 ??
What 's the truth ?
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I don't see how the amount of RAM would affect your purchase...
My recommendation is to stay away from this phone like the plague...
Low internal storage without GB makes this a phone a boat anchor
If your stuck with AT&T and want a hardware keyboard... go with a samsung captivate glide
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rignfool said:
I don't see how the amount of RAM would affect your purchase...
My recommendation is to stay away from this phone like the plague...
Low internal storage without GB makes this a phone a boat anchor
If your stuck with AT&T and want a hardware keyboard... go with a samsung captivate glide
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No, As you see, I'm Vietnamese , so i don't stuck with AT&T
I have very few money, And If this phone have 512 MB of RAM, it's the best phone in my amount of money
So I just want to know Flipside have how much ram ?
488608 according to SetCPU
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488608 according to SetCPU
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more than I thought
GSMARENA.COM also said that The HTC Wildfire S has 512 MB of RAM, but in fact, It only has 418 M
It prolly has 512 but... the 100 missing is prolly memory that makes certain hardware features work
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RAM=512MB
Now MIUI ROM is work on filpside.
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ok which version of miui is it? cause they dont directly list the flipside
I would assume without a working cm7... we don't have an miui rom
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well why say that and get us all excited? lol
There's an MIUI port based on laidaxin's CM7 rom, it's on the same Chinese forum as the CM7 rom. I believe it's fairly early in development, not really ready for daily use.
Why would you guys want MIUI...
CM7 is so much nicer, no?
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Well id have to say miui and cm are pretty much neck and neck... miui being a little heavier on the hardware end though