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I know its supposed to have 512mb.
But the app manager program I'm using shows 326.
I'm not complaining, phone is plenty fast but I'm Rom crazy and I'm just making sure I didn't mess something up.
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Trev420 said:
I know its supposed to have 512mb.
But the app manager program I'm using shows 326.
I'm not complaining, phone is plenty fast but I'm Rom crazy and I'm just making sure I didn't mess something up.
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I believe the rest is dedicated to the software and free is 326. I could be wrong ..
I read somewhere that only Froyo can utilize 512 and up.
512mb on device
frankwhitten said:
I read somewhere that only Froyo can utilize 512 and up.
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This
The current .29 kernel has a memory limitation.
Froyo comes with .32 "himem" kernel so when we get froyo you utilize all your ram
i am showing 1.16GB available for application storage.. it this the same?
ROM and RAM are different. When people speak of memory its generally referring to RAM. ROM is the storage space used for apps.
JIT and the .32 kernel would be so nice on this phone.
So does this mean we are not using all the RAM available on the phone!? That's stupid!
I agree.
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nealpatel said:
So does this mean we are not using all the RAM available on the phone!? That's stupid!
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Unless u run android 2.2, you will not use max 512MB ram capacity. If u installed lag fix, u can use 326MB out of 512MB. Without lagfix, u can only use 256MB out of 512MB!
There is only a bit over 300 mb app ram. The rest is graphivs ram. You won't see 512 ram in froyo because normal apps can't use the graphics memory. Laughable considering the sad shape which is gaming on android.
But hey, you got sims 3!
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Does froyo recognize the full 512mb of ram, if so does this lend itself to better performance
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no
it recognizes 340 something or 380 something
What's that other space used for? Why isn't it available?
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In the leaked tmo froyo there is 304 available. The rest of it I believe is used for video/graphic procesing and other core processes.
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Does froyo recognize the full 512mb of ram, if so does this lend itself to better performance
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Not the whole 512 but I'm using Eugenes Unofficial TMO 2.2 Froyo and it is a good amount faster, especially browsing.
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In the leaked tmo froyo there is 304 available. The rest of it I believe is used for video/graphic procesing and other core processes.
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+1, there are dedicated allocation of ram to certain system needs whether there running or not.
Friends don't let friends flash drunk...
Is it good to edit the dalvik size in my build prop to 256m? Im running simply honey 5.0
helikido said:
Is it good to edit the dalvik size in my build prop to 256m? Im running simply honey 5.0
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I doubt it would be a good idea to go that high.
Then 128mb?
32 to 48 is more than enough for most programs that are well made.
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I usually change it to 48mb when I dl a new rom. But to be honest, I can't tell any difference.
Why the hell would you want dalvik heap size to be 128mb, let alone 256mb? There's a reason that there aren't any options above 64mb, and that's because for right now it's completely useless.
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geoffcorey said:
Why the hell would you want dalvik heap size to be 128mb, let alone 256mb? There's a reason that there aren't any options above 64mb, and that's because for right now it's completely useless.
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It doesnt hurt to go that high right? Just like quadcore smartphones comming this year.nn.way over powered for a phone
I use 16 is that to low?
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I use 16 is that to low?
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Lol yeah... try 48..its good. I wanna go hugher to experiment but thats it.. all ive noticed is kust the status bar bieng more smooth..
My heap size start 1. Max 30
Using bionx 1.3.1 Dragon kernel 1.5 OC.. super fast
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Hey guys, got a G2 today and I LOVE it. I flashed a gingerbread ROM. Forgot the name but this works on any ROM and any android phone that's rooted I belive. This personally increased the speed and resposiveness of my phone. Its pretty sick.
Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
Click the Thanks button if I helped
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What should it be in then?
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Yeah I just started using it a few days ago myself. Runs great as an alternative to Autokiller Memory Optimizer.
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Yeah I just started using it a few days ago myself. Runs great as an alternative to Autokiller Memory Optimizer.
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What option did u put when running the script?
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I thought everyone already knew about this?
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Why I actually didn't know about this. Thanks.
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Why I actually didn't know about this. Thanks.
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Glad to help.
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i think its OK if its in the wrong section... the idea is to help... thanks Brundonm, i was looking for that script, now i found it thanks to you
Wrong. It is not ok that it is in the wrong section. Read to stickies please. Moved to General.
TheRomMistress said:
Wrong. It is not ok that it is in the wrong section. Read to stickies please. Moved to General.
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I'm sorry about this. Thanks for letting me know
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Riro Zizo said:
i think its OK if its in the wrong section... the idea is to help... thanks Brundonm, i was looking for that script, now i found it thanks to you
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Glad I helped you guys!
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Whoa...me supercharged!
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I'm using it with setting 6 Balancer
I'm using multitasking settings
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Does this work on any Rom or.just cyanonmod
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XxhTcG2uSERxX said:
Does this work on any Rom or.just cyanonmod
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works on any rom... but makes really sense on sense roms
EDIT: doesn´t work on ics roms
Any recommendations for which option to use with our DZ. I experimented a little bit used the megarom w 512 ram option and getting around 100-120 mb of free ram on a sense 3.5 nrg rom. Used to have around 70-90 mb. Although with megarom 512 its killing my homescreen at all times, so when i launch an app I have to wait for my home screen to loads every time. Playing now with the balance settings
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Any recommendations for which option to use with our DZ. I experimented a little bit used the megarom w 512 ram option and getting around 100-120 mb of free ram on a sense 3.5 nrg rom. Used to have around 70-90 mb. Although with megarom 512 its killing my homescreen at all times, so when i launch an app I have to wait for my home screen to loads every time. Playing now with the balance settings
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megarom 512 is for devices that have 512MB RAM...
best thing i've tried is the multitasking settings
Yeah figured the multitasking setting is the best, getting around 80-100 mb everything is smooth without swap. Question though, doesn't the desire z have 512 ram?
This should really start being looked into by the devs. It would be AMAZING to have it on the Epic4G. Easier said than done. But we got some great devs and I think they can pull it off!!. Please devs. We need this!
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What do you mean by dual boot?
http://epiccm.blogspot.com/2012/01/boot-el30-stock-from-sdcard.html
The temporary EL30 boot from sdcard is a method of "dual boot" which has been useful for people to update PRL and calibrate sensors. This old version is problematic in that 3G and 4G data is broken. We know how to fix it, but it would take a few hours of work and there hasn't been demand for it.
Any type of dual boot would boot from the sdcard. The slow sdcard. Not a great user experience.
LOL...I got a quad boot on my phone. If I boot right into CWM I have nandroids of 4 ROMs to choose from to restore. Takes less than 10 minutes to restore one and then there is no issue of running from a slow sd card since we don't have enough internal memory to make real dual boot work.
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What do you mean by dual boot?
http://epiccm.blogspot.com/2012/01/boot-el30-stock-from-sdcard.html
The temporary EL30 boot from sdcard is a method of "dual boot" which has been useful for people to update PRL and calibrate sensors. This old version is problematic in that 3G and 4G data is broken. We know how to fix it, but it would take a few hours of work and there hasn't been demand for it.
Any type of dual boot would boot from the sdcard. The slow sdcard. Not a great user experience.
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NOT DUALBOOTING
kennyglass123 said:
LOL...I got a quad boot on my phone. If I boot right into CWM I have nandroids of 4 ROMs to choose from to restore. Takes less than 10 minutes to restore one and then there is no issue of running from a slow sd card since we don't have enough internal memory to make real dual boot work.
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Haha no Dual booting is when you turn on your phone and have the chance to boot into either windows or android. like windows has.
Real dualbooting
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NOT DUALBOOTING
Haha no Dual booting is when you turn on your phone and have the chance to boot into either windows or android. like windows has.
Real dualbooting
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I know what real dual booting is....LOL. But not practical with our phones limited memory. With MTD and very limited apps it is probably possible but not practical leaving no room for any third padty apps.
Was just injecting a little humor..sheesh. ..tough crowd..l
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I know what real dual booting is....LOL. But not practical with our phones limited memory. With MTD and very limited apps it is probably possible but not practical leaving no room for any third padty apps.
Was just injecting a little humor..sheesh. ..tough crowd..l
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not trying to be tough lol just saying is all. but if an old windows mobile phone can why cant ours, the htc touch pro 2 did and has less everything than ours.
I got it xP. I think he is just a bit to serious ha
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joe_d08_17 said:
I got it xP. I think he is just a bit to serious ha
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Ha...been awhile since I was accused of that...lol.
Is it possible that other phone's ROMs are much smaller than ours? It can be done but would be a tight squeeze on MTD but next to impossible on BML.
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Nook color has this. Although I never compared the specs. One boots off SD card, thither off internal memory. Speed off SD is same as internal. But I don't think the epic could handle this as a full time option. Just my opinion. My NC dual boots cm7 and cm9.
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Nook color has this. Although I never compared the specs. One boots off SD card, thither off internal memory. Speed off SD is same as internal. But I don't think the epic could handle this as a full time option. Just my opinion. My NC dual boots cm7 and cm9.
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I've benchmarked our internals and they come out to about 218 mb/s read our sdcards are average about 15 mb/s read
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Android = 200mb
Nand = 500mb
Data+cache = ~300ish mb
If you dual boot you will have no space for apps
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marcusant said:
Android = 200mb
Nand = 500mb
Data+cache = ~300ish mb
If you dual boot you will have no space for apps
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Where'd all that space come from? I thought we only had like 300 megs in both RAM and ROM?
Also my friends tp2 and hd2 dual booted very easily into android (infact I think the hd2 is the most developed for android phone after the g1 and nexus 1, and its not even native lololol) and ran extremely smooth (on the hd2...on the tp2 it was like a hero with a keyboard lol. Random sluggishness.)
But nah if the hd2 can handle it I know damn well our phones can handle it. The problem is, everything we can dual boot is closed source so that's why windows phones can dual boot android but not vice-versa (I mean, you could do it yourself but just can't distribute it).
Meego seems like a great choice for a dual boot though since its open source and amazing...
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Where'd all that space come from? I thought we only had like 300 megs in both RAM and ROM?
Also my friends tp2 and hd2 dual booted very easily into android (infact I think the hd2 is the most developed for android phone after the g1 and nexus 1, and its not even native lololol) and ran extremely smooth (on the hd2...on the tp2 it was like a hero with a keyboard lol. Random sluggishness.)
But nah if the hd2 can handle it I know damn well our phones can handle it. The problem is, everything we can dual boot is closed source so that's why windows phones can dual boot android but not vice-versa (I mean, you could do it yourself but just can't distribute it).
Meego seems like a great choice for a dual boot though since its open source and amazing...
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This is still not possible. The HD2 had a lot more ROM.
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This is still not possible. The HD2 had a lot more ROM.
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Whats funny is the HTC HD2 still runs ICS or can dual boot etc... and its 3 years old
I have had my head spun by this topic myself -- I've been doing a lot of searches and reading just about every result but I can't seem to find good general info on the subject. I've seen some loosely compiled info on dual booting CM9/CM7, and I've seen some info on the EL30 from sdcard mentioned before, but I had hoped to boot CM9/CleanGB as CleanGB is what I'm running stable and comfortable with now. I'd just like to be able to have stable and comfortable as a fallback for playing with ICS. I know running off the sd is supposed to be quite slow, I don't really know what to expect as to HOW slow, but the way I figured slow was an acceptable compromise for a stable fallback.
My bottom line has been that a lot of kernels seem to support this, yet it feels like there's very little info on doing it, and that just confuses me a skosh. Is CM9/CleanGB even possible due to kernel requirements?
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I used to do this on my HTC TouchPro2. It was nice having android on it. The only problem was battery died too quick. But it was a pretty easy thing to do.
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I used to do this on my HTC TouchPro2. It was nice having android on it. The only problem was battery died too quick. But it was a pretty easy thing to do.
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Obviously the Touch Pro was designed to run windows mobile only and more business like Blackberrry
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Obviously the Touch Pro was designed to run windows mobile only and more business like Blackberrry
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Ya I know. Coming from a T-mobile MyTouch3G Slide I hated the TP2 lol.
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Obviously the Touch Pro was designed to run windows mobile only and more business like Blackberrry
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What does pointing out the obvious have to do with what he said
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