https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkZz2pr69DY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Found from Samsung Mobiles channel
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Cool
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it says 2Q 2012, means second quarter the release
I wish they'd make TW an OPTION to download via the samsung market..
that way they could smash out the update and not corrupt the Android version 4 feel and performance...
Well... That looks sweet.. Anyone can just flash plain ICS when custom roms arrive, if TW is not liked.
But the spen app looks cool...
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Wasn't this meant to be released today with angry birds as per their own videos? looks like another delay.
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The dates in the video cover quite a broad time range...
Let's wait another month or two
Those S-pen app do look pretty cool. To each their own of course - I really don't mind TouchWiz, the only thing I feel it ruins from ICS is the look of the settings menu (which is like, whatever, it's a settings menu). But the S-pen apps and integration were and are a big selling point for the Note for me. I can't tell you how many times a day I make use of S-memo lite. As long as JKay keeps doing his thing, I'm totally fine with Samsung's stock version of ICS.
Also note that the Angry Birds Space offer (to 'celebrate the launch of the Premium Suite') runs from '22nd March - 21st June'. So I'd say we're looking at any time within that frame for a proper release.
They better release the source along with it to compensate the delay.... Want some stable cm9 and miui action. Was hoping i can see.those in q2 with ics releasing in q1 x(
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With the spen app improvement, it is worth waiting I guess ;-)
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Hoping there is a leak soon.
Looks Awesome.
Just the fact that their apps can do so much more is enough, but added ICS and Angry Birds would be the deal maker.
The thing I hate most about TE is the lack of low dpi support. 320 is way too big for our screens.
If Samsung could make TW dpi-independent then I would like it much better.
Right now I'm so much loving ICS tablet mode..
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I'm honestly more interested in formula match than most of the ICS improvements. It's only the cobbling together of functionality I've seen in deTeXify and wolframalpha, but I like it.
Hope this worth the wait
Wow, this looks awesome.
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The dates in the video cover quite a broad time range...
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In the end it mentions that the "update schedule varies with country/carrier"
So its not a global launch,but region wise one just like 2.3.6 update.
So who r the lucky ones to get it first ???
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So who r the lucky ones to get it first ???
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the ones who use mobile odin
I just hope that a more stable leak will be there by the end of this month. I can't see why they can't release ICS first without these premium upgrade and then add them later.
How many months will it take since the release of ICS, 5,6months? That's way too much. I can't see why it takes so long...
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Do you guys think the vibrant could handle this? But I'm sure the development here will someday get it working. Your thoughts?
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It can handle it easily nexus S is pretty much same hardware an y wouldn't u want it its the future
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Personally Im a little let down if that really is ics. We were told it'd be a whole new ui no? Plus blue is not my color anyways.
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Alex530 said:
Personally Im a little let down if that really is ics. We were told it'd be a whole new ui no? Plus blue is not my color anyways.
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Its not even close to being done do the kernel is not even updated do an the person who leaked it said its a work in process it's alpha they got something up there sleeve
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Alex530 said:
Personally Im a little let down if that really is ics. We were told it'd be a whole new ui no? Plus blue is not my color anyways.
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What's Gingerbread missing that you want so bad from IceCreamSandwich?
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Do you guys think the vibrant could handle this? But I'm sure the development here will someday get it working. Your thoughts?
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oh... i thought you meant like... you know.. a real ice cream sandwich... im disappointed :\
The Nexus S supports ICS so our Vibrants should run it just fine. A Nexus S is basically the same hardware as a Galaxy S with NFC support. Unfortunately I don't think we'll be getting any official ICS from Samsung. We have yet to even see Gingerbread, although Tmobile also has a say in it. I've already decided to either get the Samsung Hercules or Nexus Prime to replace my age old Vibrant. I'm leaning towards the Nexus Prime simply for first-served updates directly from Google.
Looking at the leak that could have just been edited GB, I mean any of the devs here could have made that.
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The Nexus S supports ICS so our Vibrants should run it just fine. A Nexus S is basically the same hardware as a Galaxy S with NFC support. Unfortunately I don't think we'll be getting any official ICS from Samsung. We have yet to even see Gingerbread, although Tmobile also has a say in it. I've already decided to either get the Samsung Hercules or Nexus Prime to replace my age old Vibrant. I'm leaning towards the Nexus Prime simply for first-served updates directly from Google.
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What really sucks is I just started 2year plan I thought this was a new phone lol so who knows what they will have in 2 years.
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What really sucks is I just started 2year plan I thought this was a new phone lol so who knows what they will have in 2 years.
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lol that sucks but this phone is not too bad compared to new phones ive had mine for a while but im still satisfied with it, ive had honeycomb run on my vibrant, not fully functioning but it runs so why not ice cream
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lol that sucks but this phone is not too bad compared to new phones ive had mine for a while but im still satisfied with it, ive had honeycomb run on my vibrant, not fully functioning but it runs so why not ice cream
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Exatly
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We dont even have (official) GB fully functioning, so I wont think about any further for vibrant
I could really care less about Ice Cream Sandwhich for the Vibrant. Update is released in December, we wait at least 6 or so months for CM8 to be stable, the new update may pose new problems upon the existing ones, and by then the phone is 2 years old already. Touchwiz already offers GPU-acceleration in its launcher and browser, and for the most part, the current Honeycomb GPU acceleration is still lacking compared to that of iOS or WP7 (app drawer, screen rotation, and homescreen animation still lags a little). Not really expecting much of ICS.
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I could really care less about Ice Cream Sandwhich for the Vibrant. Update is released in December, we wait at least 6 or so months for CM8 to be stable, the new update may pose new problems upon the existing ones, and by then the phone is 2 years old already. Touchwiz already offers GPU-acceleration in its launcher and browser, and for the most part, the current Honeycomb GPU acceleration is still lacking compared to that of iOS or WP7 (app drawer, screen rotation, and homescreen animation still lags a little). Not really expecting much of ICS.
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Well I don't expect alot either but they could surprise us.
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I could really care less about Ice Cream Sandwhich for the Vibrant. Update is released in December, we wait at least 6 or so months for CM8 to be stable, the new update may pose new problems upon the existing ones, and by then the phone is 2 years old already. Touchwiz already offers GPU-acceleration in its launcher and browser, and for the most part, the current Honeycomb GPU acceleration is still lacking compared to that of iOS or WP7 (app drawer, screen rotation, and homescreen animation still lags a little). Not really expecting much of ICS.
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No uhh not really its suppose to make android one cross all platforms so transition to new version should be much better than it was for CM7 an there still gonna update international galaxy s we will see ICS soon cuz u can port over since its so similar an Google yet to fail me except for Gingerbread
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We dont even have (official) GB fully functioning, so I wont think about any further for vibrant
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actually its pretty much fully functioning ever since they got gps somewhat fixed last month now its really good compared to build 1 when i used that
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actually its pretty much fully functioning ever since they got gps somewhat fixed last month now its really good compared to build 1 when i used that
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For me gps works when it wants not when i want, its not what i called fully fixed. I always get back to froyo after using cm7 for a week.
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No uhh not really its suppose to make android one cross all platforms so transition to new version should be much better than it was for CM7 an there still gonna update international galaxy s we will see ICS soon cuz u can port over since its so similar an Google yet to fail me except for Gingerbread
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Yes, it is going to make Android the same across all Nexus branded platforms. Touchwiz, Sense, and Blur are not going anywhere and the manufacturers still have to modify ICS for each individual device. The Galaxy S is done for official support, period. Samsung is not making any more money from the original Galaxy S compared to the SII; most owners of the original have or will already have switched devices so Samsung has no true need to update the international version. Google's 18 month update suggestion was what it was, a suggestion, and by the time December comes, the Galaxy S is about 18 months old anyways.
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actually its pretty much fully functioning ever since they got gps somewhat fixed last month now its really good compared to build 1 when i used that
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I tried multiple builds and just couldn't get reasonable battery life. I got tired of charging through usb at work. With my usage and location I get about 24 hours on undervolt 2.2 builds.
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Yes, it is going to make Android the same across all Nexus branded platforms. Touchwiz, Sense, and Blur are not going anywhere and the manufacturers still have to modify ICS for each individual device. The Galaxy S is done for official support, period. Samsung is not making any more money from the original Galaxy S compared to the SII; most owners of the original have or will already have switched devices so Samsung has no true need to update the international version. Google's 18 month update suggestion was what it was, a suggestion, and by the time December comes, the Galaxy S is about 18 months old anyways.
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Really only time can tell what they do
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I want a Nexus, I need Google Now NOW! I hate my S3, FML!!!!
Lol feel the same way, just chill out and we will get jelly bean like gnex but even more speed and smoothness and bigger display!
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It's kind of sad really. I mean the best way for android to compete against ios would be a nexus device with s3:s hardware. That would mean quick updates and no decision between best hardware and best software like we have now.
Thank you for putting words on my feelings.. I would really like my device to have the Nexus logo with pure Google experience and updates.. There is too many steps for a device to get updates.. First from Google then make their own skins and enhancements and then the carriers will bloat it some... Someone got a nexus here? I'm just thinking how it is to hold in the hand compared to s3
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It's kind of sad really. I mean the best way for android to compete against ios would be a nexus device with s3:s hardware. That would mean quick updates and no decision between best hardware and best software like we have now.
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There will be one, or a few coming around thanksgiving time. The question now is who will make the next nexus. There is that rumor that there will be 5 different Nexus devices by different manufacturers. We have already seen the Nexus 7 by asus, so that leaves 4 more. Unless they are also counting the Nexus Q as a nexus device which means we have 3 more to go
Just installed CM9 and my god.. I love this phone more now.. Can't believe I waited this long to do it
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Just installed CM9 and my god.. I love this phone more now.. Can't believe I waited this long to do it
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I don't want to do that yet, because as soon as I dump the Sammy-based ROMs and install AOSP it leaves me nowhere to go when (inevitably) I become unhappy with the phone's performance. I'm quite happy with the speed of it at present, and I'm not quite done playing with the built in features such as awesome codec support, Smart Stay and I'm itching to meet up with my friend who has just got his S3 so I can test out the Wi-Fi Direct thingy
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I don't want to do that yet, because as soon as I dump the Sammy-based ROMs and install AOSP it leaves me nowhere to go when (inevitably) I become unhappy with the phone's performance. I'm quite happy with the speed of it at present, and I'm not quite done playing with the built in features such as awesome codec support, Smart Stay and I'm itching to meet up with my friend who has just got his S3 so I can test out the Wi-Fi Direct thingy
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I can tell you.. If you think it's fast now.. Wait until you flash aosp woohoo
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Thank you for putting words on my feelings.. I would really like my device to have the Nexus logo with pure Google experience and updates.. There is too many steps for a device to get updates.. First from Google then make their own skins and enhancements and then the carriers will bloat it some... Someone got a nexus here? I'm just thinking how it is to hold in the hand compared to s3
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Me. I find the little bump at the bottom of the nexus makes it sit more naturally in the hand than the Galaxy.
By the way, pure opinion here but Google now sucks. It just sits there sucking up battery and doing stuff there are already widgets for and the voice search is about as weak as s voice.
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Theres nothing all that wrong with the stock sammy rom. Having to wait a bit for jb is only a minor inconveniencevat this stage.
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Me. I find the little bump at the bottom of the nexus makes it sit more naturally in the hand than the Galaxy.
By the way, pure opinion here but Google now sucks. It just sits there sucking up battery and doing stuff there are already widgets for and the voice search is about as weak as s voice.
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Let's hope it's more polished when full version arrives :O i got this phone almost just because of the screenzise.. But I'm beginning to feel it's a little to big actually. You can reach everywhere on the screen with one hand without it being uncomfortable?
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So I sold my GS3 for a Galaxy Nexus because I wanted to experience Jelly Bean. Well after a week I'm back and heres why.
1. Screen bigger and better
2. Camera much better
3.phone felt much snappier(although I wasn't on Jellybean)
4.volume much louder and crisp
5.GSM Nexus had no LTE and below standard HSpa+ never over 6 mbps
So if your in to specs I say the Gs3 is the place for you.
Also if buying the Nexus off craigslist make sure it's able to receive the update the one I bought was on the wrong radio and was told it would not which Is why I sold it too.
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Well, not to be bashful or anything, but I figured going with the GSIII was a given. Jelly Bean may be great, but it's not going to do anything to get the GNex up to GSIII standards. And no worries, GSIII will get it's fill of Jelly Bean goodness soon enough.
I had the galaxy nexus, I want on JB, I have no regrets switching.
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JB will come for GS3 soon enough
Love the nexus but sold it last week. Jelly bean will soon hit roms so not a huge loss and I'll definitely be picking up the new nexus when ever it comes out.
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JB will come for GS3 soon enough
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No it won't. Official ics only just now rolled out for some sgs2 phones.The SDK was released in October of last year.
You might get some carrier leaks (buggy asz shiz) or cm10 (less buggy) but that will probably be many months.
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No it won't. Official ics only just now rolled out for some sgs2 phones.The SDK was released in October of last year.
You might get some carrier leaks (buggy asz shiz) or cm10 (less buggy) but that will probably be many months.
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Me personally I can wait, I never run stock and the amount or ROM's the international version has will keep me busy for a long time.
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We will be rocking cm10 in very little time.
Or at least beta of it.
Since pics to jellybean isn't a major overhaul. Like froyo to gingerbread or ginger to pics.
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We will be rocking cm10 in very little time.
Or at least beta of it.
Since pics to jellybean isn't a major overhaul. Like froyo to gingerbread or ginger to pics.
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Very little time = many months?
If you mean like a month or so, where do you come up with that bs?
The numbers speak clearly - look up froyo to gb, or gb to ics timeline.
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Very little time = many months?
If you mean like a month or so, where do you come up with that bs?
The numbers speak clearly - look up froyo to gb, or gb to ics timeline.
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Look up the change log and structure between those earlier android versions then go look at jelly bean compared to ics. Believe it or not the change isn't a complete overhaul, they meant for it to be that way.
Ps. there is already a beta jellybean on the international version, and we got cm9 and aokp within the first few weeks of the phone being out, the s3 is a whole nother beast compared to the s2
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Look up the change log and structure between those earlier android versions
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Enlighten me. Where can I find a "change log and structure" for Gingerbread/ICS and ICS/JB?
And how do those relate to programming an aosp rom?
Please.
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Enlighten me. Where can I find a "change log and structure" for Gingerbread/ICS and ICS/JB?
And how do those relate to programming an aosp rom?
Please.
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Here's a little info on what's being worked for CM10 if you haven't seen I already.
https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/BMQiaHhSMte?hl=en
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Here's a little info on what's being worked for CM10 if you haven't seen I already.
https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/BMQiaHhSMte?hl=en
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I really wasn't interested, if you haven't guessed yet.
I was making a point about JB not being easily ported compared to ics or gb.
Im no dev but the majority of ICS porting applies to JB. Under the hood they are very similar. Google Now, the new voice software, and the triple buffering (kernel level stuff) are the major differences. Google now is an APK and the voice isn't requiring a lot of work either I'm sure.
If we don't have a fairly strong jb aosp in a month I would be surprised.
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I kept my GNex as my backup to my GSIII. Praying for some AOKP love over here in Verizon GSIII land, lol.
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I think it's pretty obvious that the jump from GB to ICS is what took so long. imagine trying to get all your current apps and data and customization to work with a new OS with zero hiccups and nothing lost. ICS is so completely different from GB, I'm not surprised it took so long. The jump to JB from ICS isn't nearly as large, as some people have pointed out. I'm banking on us getting it early Q4.
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I kept my GNex as my backup to my GSIII. Praying for some AOKP love over here in Verizon GSIII land, lol.
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Ha ha right? The only thing that bothers me about the gnex is the screen and camera, the screen for some reason on my GS3 looks much better
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Ha ha right? The only thing that bothers me about the gnex is the screen and camera, the screen for some reason on my GS3 looks much better
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Yup and it's spec wise not much bigger but the Gs3s screen just looks much nicer and bigger.
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CM 10 doesn't require a bunch of new drivers or official blobs from Samsung so it should be rewrite of code and implementing the apps and such. If the SGS III got AOSP ICS in weeks I'd say cm 10 might be weeks away from the point source was released. I'm not positive cause I'm not on a computer, but I think Steve Kondik (Cyanogen) has the SGS III for T-Mobile. I'm no where near a PC (just my phone til Monday)... if he is on the device as the main team member, we are looking at great nightlys and then some.
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CM 10 doesn't require a bunch of new drivers or official blobs from Samsung so it should be rewrite of code and implementing the apps and such. If the SGS III got AOSP ICS in weeks I'd say cm 10 might be weeks away from the point source was released. I'm not positive cause I'm not on a computer, but I think Steve Kondik (Cyanogen) has the SGS III for T-Mobile. I'm no where near a PC (just my phone til Monday)... if he is on the device as the main team member, we are looking at great nightlys and then some.
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I agree he actually has post in the nightly build topic, so he most likely is working on it
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I'm a fan of stock android. But this time i think Sammy really outdone themselves because software features on latest S4 got me excited. I really like the health and smart pause features on S4. So i encourage devs for porting that features like those Multiview and smart stay before Samaung release it in official update. Thanks u devs. I think xda forum is the best to do it.
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it's the hardware for the softwares this time around
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I'm a fan of stock android. But this time i think Sammy really outdone themselves because software features on latest S4 got me excited. I really like the health and smart pause features on S4. So i encourage devs for porting that features like those Multiview and smart stay before Samaung release it in official update. Thanks u devs. I think xda forum is the best to do it.
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i think you need those "humidity and temperature" sensors for S-Health...
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I'm a fan of stock android. But this time i think Sammy really outdone themselves because software features on latest S4 got me excited. I really like the health and smart pause features on S4. So i encourage devs for porting that features like those Multiview and smart stay before Samaung release it in official update. Thanks u devs. I think xda forum is the best to do it.
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Wait long long. It will never ever reach the Note officially if not ever.
It's time for the One.
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Don't forget Samsung sucks in their updates.
I look for every attention in detail and their widget is still not aligned properly.
I'm talking about the 5x1 widget. Not the ugly widget that they stick in your face.
As a designer myself, I find that horribly disgusting and completely unprofessional.
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I really like the health and smart pause features on S4. So i encourage devs for porting that features. Thanks u devs. I think xda forum is the best to do it.
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So really this is just a begging thread?
Either that, or I think you have the wrong idea about petitions.
What more do you want from samsung for ur note. Its over. Thank God u didnt request for a new hardware for the note.
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Correct. What more, if S V or Note 3,4 keep coming.
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In the best case, and to be realistic we can only ask for wallpapers, ringtones and live wallpapers from Galaxy S4. Notes is already old. If you want features from S4...just buy one.
ok, lets start with the wallpapers then ;p
Robbie might port some possible features ..theyll show up in his rom first
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Wait long long. It will never ever reach the Note officially if not ever.
It's time for the One.
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Don't forget Samsung sucks in their updates.
I look for every attention in detail and their widget is still not aligned properly.
I'm talking about the 5x1 widget. Not the ugly widget that they stick in your face.
As a designer myself, I find that horribly disgusting and completely unprofessional.
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Yeah. See voice talk app v and t are small.
Not professional.
In gingerbread there was Music player.
Check settings, there are few headings with such mistakes too.
NOT big issues but finishing touch and overall quality is poor.
I would like to see feature updates available as a paid premium from the Samsung Apps store.
We have gotten our money's worth. Granted the Note N7000 should get 4.2.2 before the final chop on support, but beyond that, updating touchwiz, s-pen features and other Samsung exclusives could be easily done with a paid app update.
Remember how with Windows mobile 4 phones had a paid upgrade to 5? Maybe nothing so extreme as to be charged for an upgrade within the first two years of its release, but afterwards, to keep the phone fresh and new, I would gladly part with my hard earned cash.
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Wait long long. It will never ever reach the Note officially if not ever.
It's time for the One.
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Because HTC is better at back-porting new features to their old phones?
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Because HTC is better at back-porting new features to their old phones?
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/s detected.
Yeap, more efficiently. Look at Jelly Bean for our Note. Garbage.
I was making a mod today and noticed some code for finger air view (LSF) so its very possible that its either coming or possible for the note 1
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I was making a mod today and noticed some code for finger air view (LSF) so its very possible that its either coming or possible for the note 1
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Alot of the note 2 features are inside our roms just not activated. In secsettings/res/xml/ there are files such as quickglance2013.xml and maybe they are planning on activating these at some point.
Hopefully
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I would like to see feature updates available as a paid premium from the Samsung Apps store.
We have gotten our money's worth. Granted the Note N7000 should get 4.2.2 before the final chop on support, but beyond that, updating touchwiz, s-pen features and other Samsung exclusives could be easily done with a paid app update.
Remember how with Windows mobile 4 phones had a paid upgrade to 5? Maybe nothing so extreme as to be charged for an upgrade within the first two years of its release, but afterwards, to keep the phone fresh and new, I would gladly part with my hard earned cash.
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i think sammy should give at.least key lime.pie for original note.
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/s detected.
Yeap, more efficiently. Look at Jelly Bean for our Note. Garbage.
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Any examples of new features on the One that is also coming to the One X and older devices? You have done some research on this, haven't you?
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Any examples of new features on the One that is also coming to the One X and older devices? You have done some research on this, haven't you?
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Possibly everything including the new sexy BlinkFeed except the Remote app.
I also want the petition to start for note 3's features to note1
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Because HTC is better at back-porting new features to their old phones?
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Their not good at back porting, they didnt even made the desire hd into ICS. And htc only supporting their most recent flagship when it comes to updates. And whats worse they only update it ones
By the time SIV feature apps installed on Original Note (oNote) there isn't enough memory to run them. Good Luck!
maskerwsk said:
Alot of the note 2 features are inside our roms just not activated. In secsettings/res/xml/ there are files such as quickglance2013.xml and maybe they are planning on activating these at some point.
Hopefully
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you know why? Cause Sammy was just making a dirty port of Note2-JB to our Note 1...they were not interested in doing it properly just for the 'old' Note...
So these features will never come to Note 1 officially - they are just leftovers...
With the S4 just weeks away from the final release presumably directly on 4.2.2 wouldn't have been a very smart idea to have something similar to that for S3 'accidentally' leak towards XDA so that Samsung could have many thousands of highly-qualified beta-testers iron-out most of the last-second surprises? Since the 4.2.1 leak was not looking very convincing to me, and it looked like it really needed more extra testing ...
I find a little strange that... Samsung still updating the S3
I find it a little strange how you expect someone to risk their job for you.
Do we have an ETA for 4.2 update?
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I find it a little strange how you expect someone to risk their job for you.
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Well a common theory is that Samsung are themselves responsible for the leaks, or at the very least, very much aware of, but indifferent to their occurrence.
And it makes sense. So many development ROMs get leaked, it seems odd to think that they would have NO way to prevent, or at least reduce, them if they wanted to.
IMHO makes business sense, when you think about it...
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I'm sure we will get a leak when they have something worth leaking, alpha testing is more than likely conducted in house, for obvious reasons, and I wouldn't expect a 4.2.x update for at least 8 weeks after the s4 release.
My opinion about leaks is that Samsung does use XDA for a cheeky bit of beta testing, when they have safe stuff to release, but I don't think they are stupid enough to release alpha stuff to the, let's face it, dubious skills of your average xda end user!
And if anyone did try leaking an alpha, I'm pretty sure they would get hung out to dry!
....but then I might be completely wrong!
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My opinion about leaks is that Samsung does use XDA for a cheeky bit of beta testing, when they have safe stuff to release, but I don't think they are stupid enough to release alpha stuff to the...
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That 4.2.1 leak we got was pretty alpha and generally unusable... I'm pretty sure that one accidently got out because we're used to samsung leaks having a few bugs, but that version wasn't even near done.
bveditz said:
That 4.2.1 leak we got was pretty alpha and generally unusable... I'm pretty sure that one accidently got out because we're used to samsung leaks having a few bugs, but that version wasn't even near done.
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I'll agree it was no where near complete, but it is very much usable, there weren't any really serious bugs preventing normal usage.
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I'll agree it was no where near complete, but it is very much usable, there weren't any really serious bugs preventing normal usage.
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I had it running for at least 3 weeks myself. The main reason I stopped using it was the battery life. I was getting about 4-6 hours with my 2500mah extended battery and would get pretty warm frequently. I have spare batteries, but it still got to be too much. I don't know if that was common for others, but I have a habit of running a lot of apps at the same time with push notifications and such, I think power management wasn't built out very well so it really impacted my use. The same apps and such get me about 8-10+ hours with the 4.1 roms (nearly double the battery life).
There were a few other little issues as well. I stuck it out longer than usual hoping some more 4.2 leaks would come out, but none did. Even the custom roms releases didn't offer any improvements, just the usual google apps updates.
Not a big deal, I mostly wanted 4.2 because I was hoping for camera updates, widget lockscreen, toggle panel, etc. I liked the widget lockscreen, but they didn't do anything with the camera. The toggle panel didn't prove to be that useful because the 25 toggle mod kinda does that just fine anyway. Other than the 4.2 improvements that samsung included from the stock 4.2 experience, I'm not really in any rush for a 4.2 rom on the S3. Other than smart stay and smart notifications, I really don't use many of the current S3 gimmicks and the S4 software gimmicks are just more of the same. Even google now is much more useful than s-voice.
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I find it a little strange how you expect someone to risk their job for you.
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I don't think you understood my post - I was suggesting that it would make good business sense for Samsung to make that leak (and some other posters have noted the same thing about the older leak).
The final S4 will face one order of magnitude more competition now than S3 did one year ago, so having bugs that result in many apps not working well or too much power consumption and so on would NOT be good for Samsung, and the only way to test that on a large scale (give that there are no large scale S4 deployment) would be to "fake leak" a 4.2.2 for S3 - which the S3 WILL get anyway in the final form at some point!
Usual is we get a leak its probably a beta test deliberate leak .
Then it takes a fair while before the genuine release rolls out .
XDA cheap beta testers .
jje
I saw someone posted that Samsung will skip 4.2.1 and it will be on 4.2.2 on the official. I also heard rumours that it will be released mid of May, hopefully.
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TheMrcool212 said:
I saw someone posted that Samsung will skip 4.2.1 and it will be on 4.2.2 on the official. I also heard rumours that it will be released mid of May, hopefully.
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its sad that we have to wait that long
or maybe im just a nexus spoiled brat
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negrobembon said:
its sad that we have to wait that long
or maybe im just a nexus spoiled brat
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Buy an LG then complain at Samsung upgrades.
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Buy an LG then complain at Samsung upgrades.
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lg? they dont even know what the word update means
i had 2 lg's
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negrobembon said:
lg? they dont even know what the word update means
i had 2 lg's
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You can't seriously have owned an LG phone and are now complaining at samsung updates.
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You can't seriously have owned an LG phone and are now complaining at samsung updates.
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i had two lg's and im not complaining about because i had lg im complaining because i had a nexus
thats why i said i was spoiled by it as i know Oem phones dont update as fast as google devices(lg and motorola are overkill)
good thing is that samsung is the best android maker(after google) with updates
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You know we started recieving leaks for 4.1.2 when the note 2 came out so I am sure in a few we will see some good leaks.
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But i do think Samsung will first release 4.2.1 without s4 feature and then release 4.2.2 with s4 features same like they did with s2 and s3 (4.1.1 and 4.1.2)
Because if they give us a update directly with s4 features it will affect s4 sales
Anyways it is now heard that android 5.0 is postponed and will not com in Google io so we gave plenty of time for 2 updates
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