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TyTN dead

Hallo
I am having a serious issue with my tytn. It seems to be all dead. When I plug it into the power supply there's a red light, but that's the only sign of life.
I cannot turn it on on the on button and I cannot soft reset it. I have tryed to reinsert the battery, but nothing seems to work.
It happened overnight, but can it be a liquid damage. I have had it in my pocket, so maybe that has damaged it, allthough it worked fine yesterday, when I had it in my pocket.
I had a similar issue with another pda I had, a pocket loox 600, where it suddenly went dead, but after a few days it woke up again. Could this be the same story, or do you have any other suggestions for what has happened to it?
Magnus

Not likely to be a problem with the TyTn but with the battery. Try the suggestions here: (often caused by leaving on charge overnight.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1077622&postcount=6
But otherwise it's a new battery I think.
Mike

Magnus91 said:
Hallo
I am having a serious issue with my tytn. It seems to be all dead. When I plug it into the power supply there's a red light, but that's the only sign of life.
I cannot turn it on on the on button and I cannot soft reset it. I have tryed to reinsert the battery, but nothing seems to work.
It happened overnight, but can it be a liquid damage. I have had it in my pocket, so maybe that has damaged it, allthough it worked fine yesterday, when I had it in my pocket.
I had a similar issue with another pda I had, a pocket loox 600, where it suddenly went dead, but after a few days it woke up again. Could this be the same story, or do you have any other suggestions for what has happened to it?
Magnus
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If it is moisture damage likely there will be a red dot inside the case under the battery. If no moisture then it will still be white. These have been known to activate due to sweat in a pocket, or humidity so they aren't 100% indicative of moisture damage. But if it is red you are 100% out of luck for warranty replacement.
As the previous poster stated your issue is most likely a bad battery though, I would try replacing that first.

Zzan said:
If it is moisture damage likely there will be a red dot inside the case under the battery. If no moisture then it will still be white. These have been known to activate due to sweat in a pocket, or humidity so they aren't 100% indicative of moisture damage. But if it is red you are 100% out of luck for warranty replacement.
As the previous poster stated your issue is most likely a bad battery though, I would try replacing that first.
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First: thank you for the quick replies.
Which red dot are you refering to? There is a white dot above the battery by the camera. On this white dot it says "void" with red script.
Magnus

lol it says void? that doesnt sound good..

Madcap180 said:
lol it says void? that doesnt sound good..
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No, the "VOID" sticker is there to make sure you don't open your TyTN, that way you you try to remove the screw under the "VOID" sticker, you essentially break the seal which means no more warranty for you.

ohhh ok .. lol I thought it was like a drivers license hologram thing that says void when its been tampered with ..lol

I guess I will just have to hand it in for repair.. Luckily all the datas are syncronised with my computer.
Hope they find out what is wrong and repair it.
Magnus

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I guess I will just have to hand it in for repair.. Luckily all the datas are syncronised with my computer.
Hope they find out what is wrong and repair it.
Magnus
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Did you try my suggestions in my link above - no guarantee they will work to get the battery going, but worth a try.
Mike

Note that the LED can also be red just if the battery is 100% out of juice. The PDA also won't turn on if this is the case, even if you have it plugged in.
If you leave it charging for a few minutes, it will turn to amber and the PDA will be able to turn on.
Also, don't be afraid to hit the reset button if it just won't turn amber.
If you're still stuck, yes you will want to start by swapping out the battery.

Mike: I tryed to insert the battery while on charge, but nothing happened. Now I have taken the battery out and will try the steps again in an hour.

Hermes bricked? Toasted? Need assistance urgently!

Before anyone jumps on me, I've been going through the Wiki and forums extensively, and found just one similar problem. Which wasn't solved...
My HTC TyTN/Hermes 200 won't boot up anymore. It is totally dead. I even can't get it into bootloader mode. Screen stays blank and the LED is off.
Put the (3 months old) battery in another Hermes to test it, and it's at 100% charge.
My Hermes shows a steady red LED when it's plugged into power without the battery in, and no LED at all when the battery is installed. The red LED turns off when the battery is installed while there's power going into the unit.
I've left the battery out for at least an hour, plugged it back in, same results. Like the other guy I tried the "pull power, pull battery, plug in power, plug in battery, reset" trick http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...6469&p=1077622 - to no avail.
Does anyone have any last resort ideas on how to get it to at least come back up to a boot loader screen ?

check the battery contact points on the phone. the hermes shows a red led when its plugged in but without a battery

... have you ever dismantled your hermes? your screen ribbon cable may have dead tracks or not be connected properly
just a test on the opposite side of the battery connectors with battery removed press firmly without putting pressure on the LCD, this worked for me when i had a white screen on power up.
if this fixes the problem you may need to actually dismantle the back and put some flame retardant electrical tape on the back over the existing tape to add an extra layer of pressure and retension

XtreMe_G said:
check the battery contact points on the phone. the hermes shows a red led when its plugged in but without a battery
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Yes, I have cleaned the contact too, nothing. And the battery is OK for sure, my colleague's TyTN runs on it without any problem.

Mattnokis said:
... have you ever dismantled your hermes? your screen ribbon cable may have dead tracks or not be connected
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In fact I have, I have totally dismantled and reassembled my TyTN yesterday afternoon, nothing.

the only other problem may be that when being dismantled you may have damaged some sensitive components, Electro Static Discharge will fry sensitive CMOS components, they do not like it at all, whenever dismantling you should wear an earth strap, any time i dismantled mine it was on a workbench with a static mat and i was earthed through the mat.
but this is one possibility, the only other idea is to swap main board and displays with another that works, finding someone willing to allow you to do this with a working hemes is the tough part.
thats as much all i can think of for now

R.I.P. my trustful Hermes 200
Thanks all for your assistance. I have come to the conclusion that my sweetheart is no longer among us. May she rest in peace.
I have obtained a (2d hand) replacement yesterday. May this one last longer.
I'll keep the old TyTN for replacement parts.
Oh well...

Problem after losing a screw

After re-assemble (whith all care) my girl's Niki to fix a keyboard's floatting screw, a new problem is came: The phone even stays in "charge mode" (red led and plug icon).
Someone has any suggestion???
Lot of Tnx

Is the light red or orange? Orange means charging and red means it urgently needs charging...

When the charge is full it becomes green (but the plug icon is on). when the chage goes down 98 % becomes orange.
The phone can't feel when the power cable is unplugged!!
I have jost made a lot of soft & HARD reset!!
(the battery has an abnormal consumpition - goes down in 12-16 hours with a normal use).

I'd have to say it sounds like a cable has come loose when you re-assembled it, or something has died when you put it back together.
I'd take it back apart, again with great care, make doubly sure that there are no loose wires or components that look crushed and then put it back together again.
Sorry I can't be more help...

Mokubai said:
I'd have to say it sounds like a cable has come loose when you re-assembled it, or something has died when you put it back together.
I'd take it back apart, again with great care, make doubly sure that there are no loose wires or components that look crushed and then put it back together again.
Sorry I can't be more help...
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I've do it several time but nothing is changed!
Thank you a lot.

Soft/Hard Rest It

mohamedhussain1995 said:
Soft/Hard Rest It
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I have hard resetted several times
I think the problem is a component of the alimentation circuit.
In fact, when the circuit is cold it goes well. When I try to recharge, it comes in charge mode and doesn't change until i refrigerate it!!
Note that when the charge light stays on, the power comsumption is very high.

gonzogonzo said:
I have hard resetted several times
I think the problem is a component of the alimentation circuit.
In fact, when the circuit is cold it goes well. When I try to recharge, it comes in charge mode and doesn't change until i refrigerate it!!
Note that when the charge light stays on, the power comsumption is very high.
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i wouldn't recommend this but if you want to save £50+ you have to open your phone do not peel of the void stickers on the back ass that shows it is under warranty figure out a different way to open it and see if anything is wrong if wrong solder it if you don't want to that take it to a dealer that fixes phones and if it is under warranty take it to where you go it from

mohamedhussain1995 said:
i wouldn't recommend this but if you want to save £50+ you have to open your phone do not peel of the void stickers on the back ass that shows it is under warranty figure out a different way to open it and see if anything is wrong if wrong solder it if you don't want to that take it to a dealer that fixes phones and if it is under warranty take it to where you go it from
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The first time opened the phone was for remove a floatting screw and I had no other chance for fix it than to break the sticker and void warranty

...5 minutes of freezer for every charge...

Advice for water damaged note 3

I recently got my note 3 wet (clean-ish lake water) and immediately got the battery out and the phone dissasembled and into a bag of rice.
after a few days I reassembled it and booted it up and I can hear the startup sounds, feel the vibrations from power up, reboot & charge and I also can hear all of my notifications including ringing calls.
The problem is I cannot get the screen to turn on*.
What happens is the back button and menu button led's light up at the bottom and the screen sometimes flickers. I have got the screen to turn on though really rarely (playing with it and removing/readding the battery, rebooting etc..) and when I DO get it to turn on all functions work perfectly as if the phone was never damaged.
My question is, what components can I take a closer look at that would cause this behaviour? I would say that the screen is kaput but when it turns on everything works....
I am asking here as my google fu has not dredged up anyone with this specific problem before.
I have cleaned what appears to be corrosion or water spots on the larger copper traces on the mainboard with 99% iso and dried then reassembled but no change in behaviour (it did turn on once after I did this and work).
I tried a new OEM battery, no change.
Any and all advice is appreciated and yes I will order a waterproof quality case if I can get it working again

aridhol said:
I recently got my note 3 wet (clean-ish lake water) and immediately got the battery out and the phone dissasembled and into a bag of rice.
after a few days I reassembled it and booted it up and I can hear the startup sounds, feel the vibrations from power up, reboot & charge and I also can hear all of my notifications including ringing calls.
The problem is I cannot get the screen to turn on*.
What happens is the back button and menu button led's light up at the bottom and the screen sometimes flickers. I have got the screen to turn on though really rarely (playing with it and removing/readding the battery, rebooting etc..) and when I DO get it to turn on all functions work perfectly as if the phone was never damaged.
My question is, what components can I take a closer look at that would cause this behaviour? I would say that the screen is kaput but when it turns on everything works....
I am asking here as my google fu has not dredged up anyone with this specific problem before.
I have cleaned what appears to be corrosion or water spots on the larger copper traces on the mainboard with 99% iso and dried then reassembled but no change in behaviour (it did turn on once after I did this and work).
I tried a new OEM battery, no change.
Any and all advice is appreciated and yes I will order a waterproof quality case if I can get it working again
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You acted perfectly after getting the phone wet, so congratulations. But unfortunately, screen failures are fairly common in phone-wetting scenarios.
What you can do is try keeping the phone a couple of days more in silica gel bags/rice to see if there still is moisture in the screen assembly. If nothing changes, all you can do is replace the whole screen assembly.

totalnoob34 said:
You acted perfectly after getting the phone wet, so congratulations. But unfortunately, screen failures are fairly common in phone-wetting scenarios.
What you can do is try keeping the phone a couple of days more in silica gel bags/rice to see if there still is moisture in the screen assembly. If nothing changes, all you can do is replace the whole screen assembly.
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Can the screen be submerged in isopropyl 99% to displace any water or will that damage it?

aridhol said:
Can the screen be submerged in isopropyl 99% to displace any water or will that damage it?
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Alcohol should be harmless. Go for it, you have nothing to lose.

I think you should put your phone in sun light for 40 minute without battery. after that let you phone cool. then Try to boot.If not work then open that back part then try again for more 30 minutes. I think it will help you.
in my case it works on samsung galaxy s.
God bless you & your phone.

[SOLVED] Issues after display replacement [LG G2 d802] Red led blinks 8 times + more

I don't know if this is the right section, anyway because it isn't specifically hardware related I posted here... for admins feel free to move in the appropriate thread.
My G2 dropped on the floor and as result I got a complete broken display plus not working touch.
The device, touch apart, worked without issues so as 1st step I made a full backup of sd-like content (music, pictures, etc...) to my laptop.
note: even if touch didn't work I was able to access the device trough adb and a very useful utility (http://marian.schedenig.name/2014/07/03/remote-control-your-android-phone-through-adb/)
Next I ordered a replacement for the display, looked for instructions and changed by myself... and the phone didn't boot or even charge... nothing, the only signal of life was when attached to the wall charger the led blinking in red eight (8) times consecutively then no blink for a second and again blink for 8 times and so on in an infinite loop.
Of course I started to look for solution and tried every kind of combination but none worked.
I started to think that I missed up something during the display replacement or the battery fault or even I fried in some way the motherboard, anyway for what I read it supposed that could be that the battery gone under certain voltage or minimal charge so the motherboard circuit didn't recognize as "good or safe battery", it is simply bypassed by charge circuit.
note: I waited for the new display about 10 days and the device (fully charged) slept (turned off) in a drawer so I don't think it was totally discharged
I disassembled and reassembled again the device but nothing happened so while looking for a solution I saw a video on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZwknmWCmOE) solving a issue similar to mine so as instructions I took an old charger (800ma), cut the charger connector and exposed the 2 internal wires (one red and the other gray/black).
Then I opened the device, disconnected the battery and attached directly into the battery connector the two charger wires (in this way mobile motherboard is bypassed).
I used a small piece of tape to stop and make touch laterally the 2 wires to the connector, something like: dark wire -> [ battery connector] <- red wire
Keep in mind that the connector is something very small like (0) where left parenthesis is for dark wire and right parenthesis for the red one.
note: you can't wrong with wires, because the positive (on the battery connector) has a small white triangle.
Of course I found a way to don't move/mess wires before connecting the wall charger... I put another piece of tape at 20cm on the table to keep the cable charger fixed near the phone, then I attached the wall charger...
remember: attach the charger to the wall ONLY when you have finished to place/fix the contacts!
Waited just 1 minute because exposed charger wires was very close and didn't want to fry something... but it was enough!!
Reconnected the battery and voilà the phone turned on!
The phone turned on with almost 80% of charge, all seemed to work... except that I found 2 issues... I suppose because the case didn't match perfectly anymore (I opened the device 4 times and disassembled-reassembled twice)
1st speaker didn't work, so I reopened the device and checked the speaker connector, I discovered that the speaker didn't touch very well so I put a small stripe of tape under the connector (the small vertical green stripe in the lower side of the phone) to lift it and making touch stronger with the speaker module (the black part the come out), here on Youtube for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE2FPmFUrQQ
2nd GPS didn't work very well (discovered after a couple of days) so I reopened the device and applied this solution that worked perfectly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfS4LpfcLfg
This is my story in the hope to help someone, if you have apparently a total dead phone and the only signal of life is a 8 times blinking red light... now you know what to do!
Regards,
Davide

Thank u for share your story

Congrats on fixing your problem!
suiller said:
The phone turned on with almost 80% of charge, all seemed to work... except that I found 2 issues... I suppose because the case didn't match perfectly anymore (I opened the device 4 times and disassembled-reassembled twice)
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You mentioned the alignment of the phone wasn't the same as before....
Did your battery swell or change shape at all during this process?
If so could be a sign its on its way out and needs replacement.
A dying G2 lithium ion battery changes physical shape and completely alters the internal alignment of your components.
May be worth an extra 10.00 to replace your battery at this point with a new one

tiguy99 said:
Congrats on fixing your problem!
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thank you, I was a bit frustrated because I thought to have broken the motherboard, even if it wasn't very easy I didn't surrend and I won!
tiguy99 said:
You mentioned the alignment of the phone wasn't the same as before....
Did your battery swell or change shape at all during this process?
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I understand what you mean but no I don't think so... it seemed the same size
anyway battery has less than 1 year of life and never showed symptoms or bad behavior, right now is running as before... I can pass easily 24h without recharge

suiller said:
thank you, I was a bit frustrated because I thought to have broken the motherboard, even if it wasn't very easy I didn't surrend and I won!
I understand what you mean but no I don't think so... it seemed the same size
anyway battery has less than 1 year of life and never showed symptoms or bad behavior, right now is running as before... I can pass easily 24h without recharge
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Sounds good!
Have you found the source of your alignment being off?

tiguy99 said:
Have you found the source of your alignment being off?
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I checked and found nothing in particular... just a bit near the sim "area", but it seems just a sort of plastic adaptation... as mentioned before I opened, disassembled, reassembled and then closed it 4-5 times (in just few days)