Well, i personally love sense. But i hate the battery life. If i tune down the CPU, it gets a little choppy with every ROM no matter what its at for sense. But i was wondering, what kernel or tweaks can i do to fix my battery life issue? I run screen brightness at 1/5.
Ive been around here for awhile and usualy just get "lower your cpu" or "change kernels" but no specific life amounts or which ones.. Aparently all the good ones wont work with sense =/
ReapersDeath said:
Well, i personally love sense. But i hate the battery life. If i tune down the CPU, it gets a little choppy with every ROM no matter what its at for sense. But i was wondering, what kernel or tweaks can i do to fix my battery life issue? I run screen brightness at 1/5.
Ive been around here for awhile and usualy just get "lower your cpu" or "change kernels" but no specific life amounts or which ones.. Aparently all the good ones wont work with sense =/
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You gunna have to search the forums a little cause I'm on my phone, but if you know how to insert init.d scripts look up kernal tweaks, umm smurf script by its self also works well, I use cfq I/o, I have my CPU freq maxed out on more lionfish, running smart ass v2 peformance tweaks, that gives you amazing peformance when you need it, and dosent take away much battery, and saves battery like crazy, when screen is off, tomorrow ill go on my comp and send you script or link if you'd like
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Ok thanks. would love to have better battery life. And im still somewhat new to this. I only know the basics of wiping and flashing and using setcpu and installing kernels =/ so i barely know what alot of these things are like smartass v2 eventhough ive heard it.
Smartass is a governor option when tuning your CPU. It runs the frequency speed in between the two choices you choose 998/384 or whatever your preference may be.
I would suggest flashing the classic rom by tommytomatoe. It gave me the best battery life on a sense ROM. NRGZ sense 3.5 ROM also lasted me awhile. Nothin will compare to Aosp tho since sense is a battery hog. Good luck
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ReapersDeath said:
Ok thanks. would love to have better battery life. And im still somewhat new to this. I only know the basics of wiping and flashing and using setcpu and installing kernels =/ so i barely know what alot of these things are like smartass v2 eventhough ive heard it.
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Look for Calne's underworld kernel in the same section as your question. It's sbc and overall excellent kernel.
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Just searched whole EVO 4G section. Theres nothing even relating to underworld of calne. Only a mention of it in someone else's post.
ReapersDeath said:
Just searched whole EVO 4G section. Theres nothing even relating to underworld of calne. Only a mention of it in someone else's post.
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This general section. A few threads below yours. It is called Saturday morning by Calne.
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ReapersDeath said:
Just searched whole EVO 4G section. Theres nothing even relating to underworld of calne. Only a mention of it in someone else's post.
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That's because the thread title is "Saturday morning" .
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That's because the thread title is "Saturday morning" .
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Yes, and it is really good morning
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Jeez. Idk what all that info even is lol. and i dont want to burn up my phone or melt it.. just better battery life and i cant get the kernel either unless i ask XD Whats your guys input?
ReapersDeath said:
Jeez. Idk what all that info even is lol. and i dont want to burn up my phone or melt it.. just better battery life and i cant get the kernel either unless i ask XD Whats your guys input?
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Trust me, make a step and you will love an extra juice. Again it's up to you. If you don't like it you can always flash another kernel. Just remember to wipe cache and dalvik cache.
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MikG 3.11 With anthrax kernel... Pretty good for me
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Using Anker 1700 mah batteries (a small investment), the ROM in my signature and a STOCK kernel. Idk, I was a little apprehensive about stepping backward in Sense versions, but the phone seems to like what it was designed to run and does so fast, with no hiccups and smooth.
Stock battery
Tommy tomato 006 with lithids 009 universal more kernel
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517632
There's a lot of stuff to try for battery life. If you're looking for a miracle answer, you'll not find it. You need to try different kernels, read up on governors and what they do and so on. The link is to a script that has really sped up my EVO and I believe it has helped with battery life.
I was noticing the shots in this thread showing other's battery life but just remember, it's also what you use your phone for. High data games, surfing, Facebook, using GPS type apps will suck any battery dry. I use my phone a lot and am very happy to make it home in the evening to plug it in. Typically it can last 10 - 12 hours with about 5 - 6 hours of use. And I have tryed almost everything out there. Good luck and have a good time reading up on this stuff and trying different things. It's part of the fun of having a phone that allows you to tweak it. (Suck it, iPhone!)
tuscolavol said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517632
There's a lot of stuff to try for battery life. If you're looking for a miracle answer, you'll not find it. You need to try different kernels, read up on governors and what they do and so on. The link is to a script that has really sped up my EVO and I believe it has helped with battery life.
I was noticing the shots in this thread showing other's battery life but just remember, it's also what you use your phone for. High data games, surfing, Facebook, using GPS type apps will suck any battery dry. I use my phone a lot and am very happy to make it home in the evening to plug it in. Typically it can last 10 - 12 hours with about 5 - 6 hours of use. And I have tryed almost everything out there. Good luck and have a good time reading up on this stuff and trying different things. It's part of the fun of having a phone that allows you to tweak it. (Suck it, iPhone!)
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you make very good points. for instance, i generally keep mobile data off because that is a killer. I also rush like crazy when i turn the screen on to get it off as quickly as possible. UV scripts do help
i get max 13 hours on the mikey rom for my evo 4g i guess its ok just has an overall horrible battery life.!
Maybe this is cheating for the purposes of this thread, BUT this guy ripped out all the Sense stuff he could and put in Go Launcher Ex, which would use less battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1550526
It would look much like an AOSP ROM, so I dunno if you'd like that or not, but it has the sense stuff behind the scenes (e.g. kernel).
I got good battery life with it, but i didn't benchmark it or anything.
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Stock everything. Using SetCPU and Autostarts to manage things.
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Stock everything. Using SetCPU and Autostarts to manage things.
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Can u share your settings on setcpu.
sent from my el mero, mero chingon evo.
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Can u share your settings on setcpu.
sent from my el mero, mero chingon evo.
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Interactive governor with min and max frequency bars all the way down/up. The only profile I use is Screen Off, conservative governor, and freq bars all the way down.
What sort of Quadrant scores are you pulling with CM 6.1 RC1? I just installed it yesterday and hit a 1675 today. I haven't isntalled SetCPU yet. i am going to let it work it's magic for a few days and see what it can do.
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What sort of Quadrant scores are you pulling with CM 6.1 RC1? I just installed it yesterday and hit a 1675 today. I haven't isntalled SetCPU yet. i am going to let it work it's magic for a few days and see what it can do.
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Just ran it and got a 1417. I've never been obsessed with benchmarks, so it doesn't really bother me. The phone is fast as ****, and that's all that matters to me.
I plan to test the battery life tomorrow at work. I have been mostly at home this weekend so I have had a charger around.
I was also having amaaazing battery life with this kernal, I am in love and am just waiting the days till 6.1.1 comese out with our hdmi and 4g support!!!!
Im gonna check out that bfs kernal from bnice now, if it helps make it better than ooohh myyy.
I'm hesitant to try anything else with results like this. If it isn't broke...
My question is how stable is it? And you didn't underclock it at all except for screen off? I seem to be getting worse battery life than I did with Fresh but CM Evo always seemed to have a brighter screen than fresh which is what I attribute that to. I can't go back to Sense right now though. Loving CM6.1.
I agree on the battery life being great....
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My question is how stable is it? And you didn't underclock it at all except for screen off? I seem to be getting worse battery life than I did with Fresh but CM Evo always seemed to have a brighter screen than fresh which is what I attribute that to. I can't go back to Sense right now though. Loving CM6.1.
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What do you mean by "how stable?" Also, make sure you wipe your battery stats and let the battery drain all the way. You can control your brightness by changing it... I leave mine on auto-brightness, which is actually a battery hog compared to stable brightness.
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What do you mean by "how stable?" Also, make sure you wipe your battery stats and let the battery drain all the way. You can control your brightness by changing it... I leave mine on auto-brightness, which is actually a battery hog compared to stable brightness.
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By how stable I mean does it crash or randomly reboot? CM6 doesn't ever do that to me unless I use SetCPU so I want to make sure that doesnt happen with your settings. Good call on the battery drain and battery stats. Forgot to do that. So wait, leaving it on a stable brightness setting uses less battery life than auto? Are you talking about half way up the scale or full blast?
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By how stable I mean does it crash or randomly reboot? CM6 doesn't ever do that to me unless I use SetCPU so I want to make sure that doesnt happen with your settings. Good call on the battery drain and battery stats. Forgot to do that. So wait, leaving it on a stable brightness setting uses less battery life than auto? Are you talking about half way up the scale or full blast?
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I never get any random crashes or anything. The stock kernel doesn't OC enough to cause stability issues there.
A stable brightness of like 50% uses less battery than auto because it isn't constantly checking what the brightness should be then adjusting it. Not sure about full-power, but I'd assume it is a little more wasteful than auto.
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I never get any random crashes or anything. The stock kernel doesn't OC enough to cause stability issues there.
A stable brightness of like 50% uses less battery than auto because it isn't constantly checking what the brightness should be then adjusting it. Not sure about full-power, but I'd assume it is a little more wasteful than auto.
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Good point on the brightness. Ok so I set 50% brightness and screen off to the lowest settings in SetCPU. Let's see if this gives better battery life. Aside from the dialer being slow when I recieve a phone call (I hear the ringtone but the screen doesnt turn on for like 2-3 secs after it starts ringing) it actually seems faster with this interactive governor.
Interesting you're getting that kind of performance without using jd, impressive.
I got 36 hours recently, no setcpu, just ultimate juice and autostarts.
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Interesting you're getting that kind of performance without using jd, impressive.
I got 36 hours recently, no setcpu, just ultimate juice and autostarts.
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UltimateJuice always slowed my phone down to a crawl and burned though battery like crazy. Totally worthless.
i just cant see buying a 4G phone, paying an extra $10/month for it as well, and then put a rom on it that doesnt have 4G...... JMO
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i just cant see buying a 4G phone, paying an extra $10/month for it as well, and then put a rom on it that doesnt have 4G...... JMO
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Well... 4G does nothing but suck battery like water in exchange for a marginal speed increase, and I'm usually almost always on wifi, which is faster than 4G by a mile. Sooooo....
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Well... 4G does nothing but suck battery like water in exchange for a marginal speed increase, and I'm usually almost always on wifi, which is faster than 4G by a mile. Sooooo....
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well i stay on the move, i dont know of any statewide free wifi, so 3g/4g come in handy
plus faster is faster, that much less time to download files n such
and i have a 3500mah ext battery so mainly i have to charge at night when i sleep,so i keep 4g,bluetooth,GPS on all the time, and use my phone for the smartphone it is.......
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well i stay on the move, i dont know of any statewide free wifi, so 3g/4g come in handy
plus faster is faster, that much less time to download files n such
and i have a 3500mah ext battery so mainly i have to charge at night when i sleep,so i keep 4g,bluetooth,GPS on all the time, and use my phone for the smartphone it is.......
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Not everyone lives in a 4g area, why stay with a slower, less functional rom just so you can keep a 4g toggle available for the 4g you don't have?
I was actually taking a trip last weekend to an area with 4g so I switched roms to one that had 4g as an option, besides the fact that it is easy to switch roms in situations like that, I never ended up using the 4g.
Maybe its because the phone isn't glued to my hand, I use it to look up some things, play some games, make some phone calls, find addresses, but it isn't a permanent implant on my hand, I put it down when I'm not using it. Besides, it turns out that I'm on wifi 90% of the time, even at random places around the city.
I don't torrent with my phone, and I don't hang out downtown just to sit on a street corner and stream hd youtube or hulu. Apps like urbanspoon that I use a lot in new areas don't require heavy downloads.
Yes, the option would be better then not having the option, but CM will have 4g soon enough, for the 10 mins a month I might use it.
It seems as though battery life is one of the most common topics among us vibrant owners. We are always looking to increase battery life, whether it be with a new rom, new kernels, or apps from the market. I wanted to start this thread for everyone to share their experiences, tricks of the trade, etc on getting the best battery life.
Post pictures, rom info, kernel info, app info, modem info, battery info etc! No pic, no proof!!!
This is the best I have been able to get with my phone with:
Bionix 1.3.1 - Stock kernel - KB1 modem - TW launcher - auto brightness off, set about 2 clicks from the left - battery calibration app used at 100% - Stock battery. Light / Light moderate usage, phone calls, texts, web searches. GPS on.
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Well, this is great battery life you got there For me 24h is the most I can squeeze from my Vibrant with Project V/Bullet 1.42 kernel, auto brightness off, moderate usage. 16h with heavy usage... It's fully charged now so I don't have pics to show it
i used around 5% with in an hour with somewhat heavy usage this is cm7 nightly 71 bali with uv
srdjav - have you tried bali uv? I heard it works really well, especially with bi-winning, but I have heard great things about it on all different types of roms
gamikzone - impressive for cm7, I have read horror stories that the battery life on it wasn't all that great...but I guess with the kernel script and bali, it's way better!
@corpsetomb
Yes, I did tried Bali... But honestly, didn't see much difference in battery life. I have tried 4 different kernel on Project V and battery life was always 16-24h, depends of the usage. With extremely heavy usage 16h... So i decided to stay with Bullet 1.42.
But I didn't try Bi-Winning ROM yet... Maybe I will give it a try
But I had very bad experience with Super_DragonMODz 1.5 kernel... For a few hours everything was ok. But in one moment I picked up a phone after doing nothing for a half an hour and it was HOT! And I could smell "burning" inside Luckily when I took battery out and let the phone cool down, it was ok
Can we see pictures not words :/
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i used around 5% with in an hour with somewhat heavy usage this is cm7 nightly 71 bali with uv
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i am on Trigger redux build 17 and bali 1.1.1, so almost same setup as you, so would like to try your UV settings, could you post them here?
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Battery:1500Mah Damaged once it hits 30% It starts to drain 2% i have 2 batterys an the second gets double to almost triple the one i am using
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Can we see pictures not words :/
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haha what is this, a courtroom?
truly, none of this matters. one big factor in battery life is application use. in order to pinpoint someones battery usage, one would have to list, in detail, their application usage. which/how many apps poll for background data/how often? is the person using an autokiller/ram optimizer? which/how many apps stay open in the background, even when killed?
The bottom line is, battery life is ultimately determined by the user. there are only so many differences, in terms of battery, between these roms and kernels. none of them will give you a SIGNIFICANT difference. this is not the fault of the devs, they are not magicians.
This is why people do not get nice responses in rom/kernel threads when they ask "how is the battery life?". Then some clown who is a very light user will say "its great! i get 20hrs per cycle!!" and then you flash it expecting ground-shaking results...only you forgot that you have 317 apps on your phone (20 of which are constantly poll/checking for background data), and you use your phone/data like a whore who youll never see again. and unfortunately, there are horrible noobs out in there who, after doing this, will actually go back into the thread and say something like "DO NOT FLASH, MY BATTERY DOESNT EVEN LAST 8 HRS!!!!"
Theres only one true way to REALLY compare battery between ROMs/kernels (and it still isnt 100%trustworthy): download a ROM, try it out for a few days at moderate usage. Then flash the one you want to compare it to. Make sure you have the SAME exact setup as the ROM before (apps, brightness, GPS on/off, background data, etc.), and try to mimmick your usage with the other one. NOW you can effectively determine, relatively, which ROM may show better battery results for everybody. and then, when someone asks "does this have good battery?" you dont just say yes; you say "yes, i have seen noticeable improvement since coming from _______ rom, i about ___hrs more per full charge "
sorry for the rant
here's my battery life with Project V.
http://s1085.photobucket.com/albums/j421/starchaser03/?action=view¤t=xda.jpg
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here's my battery life with Project V.
http://s1085.photobucket.com/albums/j421/starchaser03/?action=view¤t=xda.jpg
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Come on man, how did you menage this? Do you have any apps install on your phone?
@TopShelf10
No worries, I welcome your input! I agree that a big factor in battery life is application use. You will see in the OP that I recommended people put in as much detail as possible along with their picture, such as what type of use, kernel, rom, etc. I would also like to hear and see comparisons between roms, that is part of what this thread is all about! To be able to compare different roms and see what helps based on usage.
Thank you for participating and your input!
Note: Do you guys think I should start a list of best battery life in the op?
I know this but anyone can say I got 24hrs show me me proof
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@kazumahits
Would you mind sharing the details on how you get this awesome battery life? Kernel, programs, light/moderate/heavy use etc?
MITurned off background data. At least 4 hours of Youtube and flashed at about 90% so....
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wtf tapatalk that's
display-30%
GPS Status-16
Standby-12
wifi-11
android system-7
gps test-5
idle-5
and other stuff
23h 23m 1s on battery with 19% left
WTH!!!!!! I wish my phone could last that long. But do you use your phone a lot? Like facebook? Music? Videos? Etc???
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here's my battery life with Project V.
http://s1085.photobucket.com/albums/j421/starchaser03/?action=view¤t=xda.jpg
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Trigger redux w/glitch while actually doing stuff like an hour of tetrisphere.
Suck it.
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You can manipulate the battery use stats pretty easily... at least on CM7. If I plug my phone in to charge for an hour, it doesn't reset my battery usage. Sometimes when I look at it it will say 24 hours+. Which I know is not at all accurate.
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You can manipulate the battery use stats pretty easily... at least on CM7. If I plug my phone in to charge for an hour, it doesn't reset my battery usage. Sometimes when I look at it it will say 24 hours+. Which I know is not at all accurate.
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That happens to me on MIUI makes it hard to keep track of it
Btw my batt
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Happy New Year first to all.
Now what i would like to do with this thread is create a place were people can discuss about battery life and post screenshots of their battery life. Also talk about what settings you are using and what is your overall experience and what is the best screen on time you had so far.
What i like people to talk about is what kernel they use, what governor, if you are using a scheduler and if you are using any scripts to improve performance or smoothness when scrolling through screens. Also if people can provide there tricks and tips on how they get the best out of their battery might be beneficial for new users who just got their handset and looking for ways on how to get that extra juice from their battery
Over the last week i have been using Siyah kernel and i have to admit in the beginning i thought not much of the kernel. But after reading and learning regarding the Thunderbolt scripts (by Pikachu) and also that i could use the lulzactive app(by Tegrak) i was blown away by the smoothness and performance. Now if you are using scripts the app is not needed as far as i know(please someone correct me if i am wrong) but either how being able to use different apps or scripts to improve my phone even more it has left me speechless.
My average screen on time is about 4hrs and 30 minutes. That is over the duration of one day and a half. Before i used to use Savaged Zen governor and use to UnderVolt quite alot. But now after turning to Siyah kernel and trying out the lulzactive governor i am also again amazed by the battery performance.
Now different governors and different schedulers are dependent on what use you need them for. That i will not go into as there are other threads that explain all that in more detail. Please see here for more information:[REF][&Tweaks] Kernel Governors, Modules, I/O Schedulers & CPU Tweaks: Siyah & Others
My idea behind this thread is to keep in one place everything. Regarding settings, what scripts you use, what app you guys prefer either if it is Voltage Control, No Frills or SetCpu or if you recommend any other ones and what scripts are best to use if you do not like to use an app to control all your frequencies. What kernel you guys prefer and which one gives you best performance, or best battery life or even which one you guys has the best of both worlds. That is my aim for this thread..
Not to have wars in which one is best or not. Just a discussion on how people can improve or learn even on how to use scripts or how to get the most out of their battery and improve performance as well. Yes again i will say there are loads of threads but if you have one were each member can provide their experience someone might benefit from all this.
And as a pointer yes i know let's say my settings that i use might not work for someone else. But if we can give pointers and examples to others on how to start and they can use my one as a template say on how to improve their ones then why not i say.
Anyway guys i know for some they might not like this thread and for some they might say it is not worth the hassle. But if you can give ideas on how to improve the thread and please first see my idea and logic were i want to go with this then please feel free to input and give me your opinions in improving it.
Thank you to all and have a very Happy New Year.
Credits to all the devs and specially the creators of all the kernels out there who make my phone into the beast it is now. Respect to all XDA members and this is one community worth being a member off.
LINKS FOR VARIOUS KERNEL INFORMATION, TWEAKS AND SCRIPTS:
ThunderBolt! Scripts by Pikachu v2.3.4
Kernel Governors, Modules, I/O Schedulers&CPU Tweaks:Siyah&Others By DroidPhile
Battery life Screenshots using different governors and schedulers
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Above you have screenshots of my battery life using Siyah kernel 2.6.3 and Thunderbolt Scripts 2.3.2
As you can see for me it is pretty amazing and the results are brilliant. Now on Siyah 2.6.4 and Thunderbolt scripts 2.3.3.
Also using Voltage Control and undervolting and using scheduler SIO and governor Lulzactive for now. Testing the new kernel and same governor with updated scripts to see how battery goes. I shall post different screenshots for different governors in due course.
Cheers
I will be keeping a close eye on this thread thanks!
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I will be keeping a close eye on this thread thanks!
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Thanks mate..Not only doing this regarding to see battery life with different kernels i am also doing this to learn from others on how to use scripts and what they do to get the best out of there handset. Thank you
My battery life before...stock with speedmod
NOW...... check rom and speedmod
tried everything NO solution yet........
you may say i have more apps running now but... generally the battery life is really poor now..you see i have the ANDROID OS virus
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My battery life before...stock with speedmod
NOW...... check rom and speedmod
tried everything NO solution yet........
you may say i have more apps running now but... generally the battery life is really poor now..you see i have the ANDROID OS virus
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install BBS and find out what keeps your phone awake and causes the battery drain and then try and unistall it.
Tried and failed. No luck.... Can't find the culprit. Keeping wifi on did drain more battery but it was not the only culprit.
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Tried and failed. No luck.... Can't find the culprit. Keeping wifi on did drain more battery but it was not the only culprit.
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Can not help you then buddy. The only thing i would suggest is try and make wifi to go off when screen is off. You can set that up when you go into settings - wifi and network and then wifi settings press menu button click on advanced and there you will find sleep policy and try switching it to when screen is off for wifi to sleep come out and reboot
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Can not help you then buddy. The only thing i would suggest is try and make wifi to go off when screen is off. You can set that up when you go into settings - wifi and network and then wifi settings press menu button click on advanced and there you will find sleep policy and try switching it to when screen is off for wifi to sleep come out and reboot
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Believe me I've tried everything I've tested every ROM and kernel combo and I even purchased juice defender ULTIMATE (all radio off when screen is off) but couldn't get rid of the Android bug. Hope ics built will fix it. I have learnt to live with poorer battery life.
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Believe me I've tried everything I've tested every ROM and kernel combo and I even purchased juice defender ULTIMATE (all radio off when screen is off) but couldn't get rid of the Android bug. Hope ics built will fix it. I have learnt to live with poorer battery life.
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Have you tried latest Siyah kernel and checkrom. No AOS bug and battery is nifty
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I am on the latest check rom and on speedmod kernel. But I'll give syriah kernel a go.
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I am on the latest check rom and on speedmod kernel. But I'll give syriah kernel a go.
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Give Siyah a go and use Voltage Control to control the cpu clock and try and undervolt a bit. Use Lulzactive governor and see how you go. Also try SIO scheduler...Let me know how you get on
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My battery life before...stock with speedmod
NOW...... check rom and speedmod
tried everything NO solution yet........
you may say i have more apps running now but... generally the battery life is really poor now..you see i have the ANDROID OS virus
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Is that avast anti virus running? The orange icon. Try To remove that? It stops your phone from sleeping.
Try To disable double twist and pulse for a day? They seem To use alot of power
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I took these screenshots few days ago using SensatioN 3.0 with Siyah 2.5.something.. I'm now on Siyah 2.6.something (latest one)
I should also mention that I'm using the Samsung 2000mah extended battery. CPU has been oc'ed, uv'ed and set to 500Mhz-1600Mhz "On Demand"
Neo3000 said:
Can not help you then buddy. The only thing i would suggest is try and make wifi to go off when screen is off. You can set that up when you go into settings - wifi and network and then wifi settings press menu button click on advanced and there you will find sleep policy and try switching it to when screen is off for wifi to sleep come out and reboot
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You do realize that generally this will use more battery than staying constantly connected to wifi.
3G uses more battery than wifi.
If you think about it, the cell tower is pretty far away compared to your router.
mynamesteve said:
You do realize that generally this will use more battery than staying constantly connected to wifi.
3G uses more battery than wifi.
If you think about it, the cell tower is pretty far away compared to your router.
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Adding to this, poor phone reception will also drain more battery.
systemcrasher said:
I took these screenshots few days ago using SensatioN 3.0 with Siyah 2.5.something.. I'm now on Siyah 2.6.something (latest one)
I should also mention that I'm using the Samsung 2000mah extended battery. CPU has been oc'ed, uv'ed and set to 500Mhz-1600Mhz "On Demand"
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Looks good buddy. But what would happen if you had the 500Mhz to 200 instead? Would you not have got a bit extra out of the battery?
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You do realize that generally this will use more battery than staying constantly connected to wifi.
3G uses more battery than wifi.
If you think about it, the cell tower is pretty far away compared to your router.
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Steve. Why would it eat more battery? I mean screen is off but having wifi on will keep your phone awake. A thing that is not really needed and would eat more battery.
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Steve. Why would it eat more battery? I mean screen is off but having wifi on will keep your phone awake. A thing that is not really needed and would eat more battery.
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Having wifi on will not keep your phone awake
Because if you have a constant connection to your router that is 5 foot away your using less battery than it constantly polling to the data tower which is prob a few miles away.
If your out and about turn wifi off as the constant searching will decrease battery.
There is a fair bit of info on the web about this, i'm afraid i haven't the time to find it out now, have a search tho.
there one example
http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2011/04/how-to-get-better-battery-life-from-your-android-phone/
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Having wifi on will not keep your phone awake
Because if you have a constant connection to your router that is 5 foot away your using less battery than it constantly polling to the data tower which is prob a few miles away.
If your out and about turn wifi off as the constant searching will decrease battery.
There is a fair bit of info on the web about this, i'm afraid i haven't the time to find it out now, have a search tho.
there one example
http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2011/04/how-to-get-better-battery-life-from-your-android-phone/
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nice one fella thanks for the link...i always thought it was the other way round. and yeah i know i always switch it off when i am out as like you say it will eat up battery by constantly scanning to find a connection. so best to use 3g when i am outdoors
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Adding to this, poor phone reception will also drain more battery.
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exactly so maybe sometimes instead of having 3g best turn it to 2G or Edge to save up bit battery...
Seeing how a new firmware came out on the Nexus S, I want to see what kind of battery life everyone is getting on Android 4.1.1 Jellybean. And since everyone cares about battery drain one way or the other, we can use this thread to post tips on getting more battery life and/or try to figure out what's causing battery drain.
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Anyway, PLEASE include these when showing your battery usage:
What ROM/kernel/Governor you're using
A combination of the three can determine why/how you're getting the battery life you're getting. Also, post thread link for the ROM/Kernel if you can.
SCREEN ON TIME
Probably the most important thing to know when determining battery life. Since the screen uses the most juice and generally the amount of time we'd be looking at our screen, the screen on time is very important to show. You can get this by going to Battery > Screen
YOUR GENERAL USAGE
How you used your phone is another important determining factor of how your battery was used. If you took pictures or listened to music, that would explain why you got such low battery life. More information the better.
IMAGES
Images help as it gives information which would be probably be too difficult to describe. The Battery section in the Setting section would help as would Battery monitoring apps
A simple template would be the following:
Code:
[B]*IMAGES[/B]
[B]ROM[/B] -
[B]KERNEL[/B] -
[B]GOVERNOR[/B] -
[B]GENERAL USAGE[/B]
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[B]CONCLUSION[/B]
blahblahblah
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ADDITIONAL TIPS
- Show images of CPUSpy. May help see if your CPU is running out of whack or if, for some reason, is running on 1000MHz too much.
- BetterBatteryStats app screenshots. It gives a much better detail on what's waking up your phone, what apps are using it, and so on. You can buy it HERE. It's a very good app to monitor battery usage.
- More images the better. So we know what's going on with your phone.
PLEASE DONT
- Embed too many images to your post. It'll be too difficult to look at this thread with hundreds of images being embedded at the same time. Plus, people looking on mobile phones would probably struggle opening the page. If you have a lot of images, please just post the link and not an image
Anyway, thanks! Hopefully we can get amazing battery life on Jellybean!
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ROM - Jellbean 4.1.1 OTA from here: http://goo.gl/AXr2d
KERNEL - Default/Stock kernel
GOVERNOR - Default/Stock
GENERAL USAGE
Usage was, in my opinion, light and didn't really do much. Most of the time, I was on 3G only to go on WiFi when in a Starbucks. I turned off my phone when watching The Dark Knight Rises and trying to save the most battery but that didn't really seem to help. I used the camera once in a while but didn't listen to any music.
CONCLUSION
So far, this battery seems kind of... bad. Especially with my usage (which I thought was light), I thought I could get more screen on time than just 2h 14m. I'm a tad disappointed and might go back to ICS just for the better battery life.
ROM: Unofficial CM10 by Lego
Lazy gov. Air kernel test 112.
The 2 hours of screen usage were from playing temple run, xda, and fb.
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That's a good cycle IMO ^. Have you done a factory reset OP? Force of habit has me doing it anytime I do an update to avoid any issues. It also seems like you have a crappy signal at times. I haven't had a chance to actually judge battery life but mine seems to be on track to be about the same as it was as on ICS though.
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That's a good cycle IMO ^. Have you done a factory reset OP? Force of habit has me doing it anytime I do an update to avoid any issues. It also seems like you have a crappy signal at times. I haven't had a chance to actually judge battery life but mine seems to be on track to be about the same as it was as on ICS though.
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It's weird because I'm using the same radio as on ICS and I seem to be getting worse signal on Jellybean? I might reflash a new JB ROM and try that instead.
I have a 2300mAh battery on stock JB i might upload some screenies later but i havent seen the battery life decrease it seems to be the same
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AlanS181824
JB battery life better than ICS
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It's weird because I'm using the same radio as on ICS and I seem to be getting worse signal on Jellybean? I might reflash a new JB ROM and try that instead.
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Yeah. I'm gonna probably go back my KF1 radio once I update my ROM tonight.
IMO I always do a preliminary test the battery when the phone switch to airplane mode in a night, if the drain only 1% then the ROM is quite good.
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Heh. I wish my phone idled that well. Haha.
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Heh. I wish my phone idled that well. Haha.
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Right? I miss the GB battery life, could leave GPS and 3g on all night, not touch it, and lose 2% in 10 hours. With ICS I was grateful if I could get it down to 1.5%-2% in an hour. And Google Now is too awesome to turn stuff off for, so JB is even worse
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My battery life is absolutely horrible. I think my battery is bad though. I've had it since I got the phone. When the nexus came out.
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Its one of those pay to play situations. My job has places for me to safely charge my phone so the battery isn't too big a deal for me. Best bet is to carry a spare charger. It is after all a pocket computer. Sucks, but until battery tech catches up, there isn't much us or many other smartphone users can do.
I think the background sync drains battery when idle. With sync on during idle, the batt drops ~3-6%/hr. If sync is turned off, it becomes ~1%/hr. (using 3G)
Exactly what Google things syncing would cause such a drain? I have this type of usage but all I have is Gmail syncing and I only get a few emails a day. I have obviously noticed increased life disabling Gmail, but how could it be using so much if it is push?
I'm getting, at least, the double than before...stock, unrooted
I don't understand this.....
The only thing using CPU is Android system at 5-15%... why is this happening? The screen was off for at least 8 minutes
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Since it just started up, and I'm guessing it is syncing like crazy. Calendar, instant upload if you have that in G+ or drop box chrome, contacts, drive, Gmail... Etc. Location is happening (maps, and latitude), checking for updates, weather. Check again in an hour and see if it has settled.
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I havent noticed a problem with my battery. It's actually been pretty much the same. I go almost the entire day not charging it on normal use (almost 12 hrs). Heavy use with me is constantly playing games, I get maybe 3-5 hrs depending on screen brightness. It's pretty much the same as ICS for me
Hello.
I'm using PA 4.4.4 Final on my Nexus 4 and I need a kernel that has good battery life (3Hrs SOT will be great).
I'm a medium user, not gaming so much, etc.
I just need the kernel to have 3 things:
1.Good battery life.
2.Gamma Control.
3.Sound Control.
Thanks!
Wassupdog said:
Hello.
I'm using PA 4.4.4 Final on my Nexus 4 and I need a kernel that has good battery life (3Hrs SOT will be great).
I'm a medium user, not gaming so much, etc.
I just need the kernel to have 3 things:
1.Good battery life.
2.Gamma Control.
3.Sound Control.
Thanks!
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Franco kernel is best for you.
sidnoit22 said:
Franco kernel is best for you.
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Thanks, I already tried franco and I didn't got close to 3hrs SOT xP..
Hells core gives me consistently at least 4 hours SOT. My record with it was near 6! Download the hells core app from the market for a convenient way to flash the latest version.
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OmniROM 4.4.4 & FauxKK & ART :victory:
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My settings are:
- 125mV
- EcoMode (2 Cores disabled)
- 384-1512Mhz
- interactive gorevenor
- intelliplug hotplug driver instead mpdecision
- 128mhz GPU Frequenzy Max.
(This maybe seems to be a speed limitation for the device to some of you, but my experience is a smooth interface and smooth system! Maybe the animations take longer some times but if i can double my batterylifetime by that, I accept that.)
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Try Fauxkernel!
(My original Post is in the Great battery impression thread)
Zenzic said:
Hells core gives me consistently at least 4 hours SOT. My record with it was near 6! Download the hells core app from the market for a convenient way to flash the latest version.
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Try Fauxkernel!
(My original Post is in the Great battery impression thread)
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Thanks!
I will try both .
T.E.C.H.N.O said:
Try Fauxkernel!
(My original Post is in the Great battery impression thread)
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Where can I get the download?
I'm looking in his thread but can't find anything...
Wassupdog said:
Where can I get the download?
I'm looking in his thread but can't find anything...
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http://faux.romhost.me/mako/kk44/ look there and choose one.
I'm currently using "mako-kk-kernel-033m.zip" because TouchControl doesn't work with the newer releases.
If you choose the 033 too and WiFi doesn't work, please tell me and I'll give you a link to a fix!
first off, these threads are not allowed on xda, period.
secondly, theres is no such thing as a magic pill for you to take for battery life for your phones. kernels do not increase battery life. battery life is determined by how you personally use your device, how you personally set it up, which apps you use, and very much the quality of your data/phone connection. thats it. everything else plays such a minor role in battery that it doesnt matter.
simms22 said:
first off, these threads are not allowed on xda, period.
secondly, theres is no such thing as a magic pill for you to take for battery life for your phones. kernels do not increase battery life. battery life is determined by how you personally use your device, how you personally set it up, which apps you use, and very much the quality of your data/phone connection. thats it. everything else plays such a minor role in battery that it doesnt matter.
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My battery last much longer with faux than with omni stock?
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My battery last much longer with faux than with omni stock?
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my battery is exactly the same on every kernel ive ran, about 4.5-5.5 hours sot no matter which kernel.
simms22 said:
my battery is exactly the same on every kernel ive ran, about 4.5-5.5 hours sot no matter which kernel.
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Only because it's on your device, it doesn't mean it's like this on any other device I think
I've used franco @ android 4.3 and now faux on 4.4 and my battery lasts much longer, even without my settings (I've mentioned some posts before)
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Only because it's on your device, it doesn't mean it's like this on any other device I think
I've used franco @ android 4.3 and now faux on 4.4 and my battery lasts much longer, even without my settings (I've mentioned some posts before)
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it is like that on every kernel, not just because its my device. again, battery life has everything to do with how you personally use your device, how you personally set it up, what you install into your device, and what apps you use. also, very much so, the signal quality that you receive plays a huge role in battery life as well. this fantasizing that you will install a magic pill(kernel) that will magically make you have amazing battery life, is just that, a fantasy. if it was true, you would have this magic pill ready for every single device. but its not real, so people waste their time constantly looking for it.
Just one link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/kernels-battery-benchmarks-t2449982
I think this is the evidence that different kernels can affect battery life.
For example not every kernel uses mpdecision hotplug driver. For example faux kernel uses Intelliplug and this lets the cores act much different than with mpdecision.
For example when I'm on Intelliplug and drag my statusbar down, only one core goes online at 1512Mhz.
And if I'm on mpdecision and drag my statusbar down, 3 or 4(!!!) cores go online! So this affects the battery.
Even if this is a stupid example
T.E.C.H.N.O said:
Just one link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/kernels-battery-benchmarks-t2449982
I think this is the evidence that different kernels can affect battery life.
For example not every kernel uses mpdecision hotplug driver. For example faux kernel uses Intelliplug and this lets the cores act much different than with mpdecision.
For example when I'm on Intelliplug and drag my statusbar down, only one core goes online at 1512Mhz.
And if I'm on mpdecision and drag my statusbar down, 3 or 4(!!!) cores go online! So this affects the battery.
Even if this is a stupid example
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i use trinity kernel, which keeps all 4 cores on at all times. yet i see from 4.5-5.5h sot without ever doing anything to try to get better battery. so that info you wrote means nothing actually(as how many cores are running does not affect battery). you are just caught up in good salemanship by the developer selling you his kernel. and no mpdecision runs on any of my phones, ever.
simms22 said:
i use trinity kernel, which keeps all 4 cores on at all times. yet i see from 4.5-5.5h sot without ever doing anything to try to get better battery. so that info you wrote means nothing actually(as how many cores are running does not affect battery). you are just caught up in good salemanship by the developer selling you his kernel. and no mpdecision runs on any of my phones, ever.
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I don't run into "good salemanship" I chose this kernel because it brings the capability to optimize the color settings and even undervolting and the most important thing is the "Eco-Mode" which completly disables 2 Cores.
So my Nexus 4 is running as a dual-core phone and as you can see on the screenshot on my first post in this thread,I get 8 hours of screen on time! So please, please don't say it doesn't matter how many cores are online.
If would enable all cores, I defenatly won't get 8 hours of screen on time.
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I don't run into "good salemanship" I chose this kernel because it brings the capability to optimize the color settings and even undervolting and the most important thing is the "Eco-Mode" which completly disables 2 Cores.
So my Nexus 4 is running as a dual-core phone and as you can see on the screenshot on my first post in this thread,I get 8 hours of screen on time! So please, please don't say it doesn't matter how many cores are online.
If would enable all cores, I defenatly won't get 8 hours of screen on time.
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Pic's or it didn't happen. No one gets 8 hours sot
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jd1639 said:
Pic's or it didn't happen. No one gets 8 hours sot
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And THIS happens if people are too lazy to read or go a page back.
Here are the screens:
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And THIS happens if people are too lazy to read or go a page back.
Here are the screens:
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so where is the page that shows what apps you used and at what percentage? seems like youre posting fake/artificial battery stats. othewise you would actually show your usage(which you show none). we are not children here, ok some are, but us adults know whats going on in reality, there is no fooling us.
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so where is the page that shows what apps you used and at what percentage? seems like youre posting fake/artificial battery stats.
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How to hell I should fake the batterystats? and please fuc**** tell me why I should do that?
This day I almost was connected to my wifi (see screenshot) and this is the fact why my batteryusage isn't that high.
Today I was at school and because of that I wasn't connected to WiFi the hole day.
Actually I've 4h 38m SOT and 13% left.
Please don't accuse me to fake something! I forgot the screenshot of the apps-list but if you want, I can try this weekend to get the same SOT!
Best regarts mate
BTW: I'm still teenager but faking such thigs isn't brave and might brings dissapointments to some which would try this IF I WOULD FAKE WHAT I'VE NOT!!!
I'll try to get the same SOT this saturday because I'm at home the hole day and you'll see guys, nothing's faked!