I got my new iPad last week and played with it a ton. I missed my apps for HBO go and brighthouse since i sold my old ipad 1 month ago. Since that time, i've upgraded my tf101 to kang ICS and had to rely on it for the entire month so i got to know it very well. Here are my 2 cents.
design
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winner : Transformer: Winner by decision. Compared to the original ipad, it would have lost because of the original one's similar edge feel but signficantly easier to hold form of the ipad 1. But this iPad one is more like a heavier version of the iPad 2. Awkward and gets warm too easy.
Performance
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winner : Draw. Both are lightning fast. The main reason i sold the ipad 1 was because it was crazy low after the 5.0 update. This is how it was meant to run.
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winner : Transformer : winner by K.O in the 5th. This wasn't even close to me. I've grown to love the ICS so much more than the honeycomb it came with. For me to check email, browse with Dolphin, and print stuff, hands down ICS. Resizable widgets only adds to the K.O. I have my wife's email on a scrollable gmail on half the screen and my email on the other half. Below them are the icons for the various games we use, browser and other apps. Apple O.S. needs an update. It's pretty much had the same O.S. since it debut 6 years ago.
Apps
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winner : ipad : K.O. in 10 seconds of the 1st round. Not even close really. Facebook works like it should for a tablet, words with friends works great, exclusive ipad apps like hbo go give you hbo access to all its lineup and brighthouse and espn both have amazing apps. Games are so much better too. Real racing 2 looks like Grand Turismo on my PS3.
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winner : Transformer : winner by decision. Could have been an easy win here for the Transformer. Between the keyboard and memory card alone it scores an easy victory. Add the ability to use Clockwork Mod and our great community, and boom goes the dynamite. But ipad 3 game back here with a much better camera from its predecessors, a speaker that packs such a punch, you swear the whole back must be a giant speaker, and the 5.1 update with features which lets you split the keyboard by just pulling them apart as needed. Very close, but transformer does take this, barely.
Screen
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winner : ipad : winner by annihilation. What can you say here. My Transformer took a beat-down here. It was the supreme chancellor before the iPad. I thought it looked better than the ipad, ipad 2 and any other comers. But this time around, it got smoked. what made this even more unreal was that the transformer has a 10.1 screen and by all reasonable accounts, looked fine. But after seeing this ipad on a 9 inch screen no less, I now see the future of screens. I never noticed that i did put a little effort into looking at my Transformer screen. But now, when i look at the ipad, it IS like looking at paper, hell maybe better than paper because the lighting is always perfect. You use no facial muscles at all to see this screen. Just amazing. See screen-shots below.
Overall
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Undecided. The screen and apps pushed the ipad far ahead but the transformer with its exclusive use of widgets, memory card and keyboard stormed back. As i wrote this, i noticed that espn.com was redesigned to take advantage of certain features of ipad 3. It almost looks like an app. with things like this, it's going to be tough for the Transformer.
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Asus Transformer screen of sports.yahoo.com/nba yesterday.
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ipad screen of sports.yahoo.com/nba yesterday.
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New iPad screen does look pretty impressive.
Thanks for the comparisons. The screen difference is amazing. Do you think now you got the ipad the transformer will take a back seat? Browsing-wise (speed) is there a difference?? Thanks !
browsing wise it depends on the site. for most sites i'd say the TF101 is still faster, but for ipad optimized site (which there are alot) the ipad is faster.
I'm hoping the Transformer won't get left behind. I'm monitoring the usage. Right now, my 12 year old is hogging up the ipad for games so we are still mostly using the TF101. But my eyes prefer the Ipad.
I was the biggest android fan around forever. I've had android phones on all the carriers. Ever since the g1. I can honestly say with no bias, that android doesn't hold a token to the new ipad. Not even compared to the ipad 2.
I got so sick of the honeycomb/ics apps being stretched out phone apps. The lack of sheer apps ruins it too. Pixelated stretched out phone netflix. So frustrating. I've had almost every tablet on the market, every phone on the market.
Google has a long way to go (and I'm hoping they can do it with their acquisition of Motorola Mobility).
What it boils down to for me is: when I press a button, I want the damn thing to react. So many times I press home and my phone just sits there. Battery pull to follow. Open the camera app. Press shoot. People pose and hold it for a lifetime just to take a picture. EDIT - most frustrating things: Press shoot on the camera, hear the click, and after you lower the camera you get a picture of your feet. Or press click and the flash goes off and the camera gets delayed and you get a picture of a dark room.
When google can get the content down, and get it to work the first time every time, I'll go back to Android tablets. For now I'm Android phone, iOS for tablets.
The iPad3's screen should be compared to the Transformer Infinity's, IMO. The TF101's should only be compared up to iPad2's.
comparing technologies 14 months in distance is like comparing chariots with tanks.
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OK im a bit confused here? So ur comparing a almost 2 year old original transformer to a brand new ipad? Yet other than screen and maybe websites, its holding its own very well. I say awesome for the transformer. Thats like comparing the ps2 to the ps3 screen 2 yrs later. DUHHH Id like to see the comparision when the new transformer 700 comes out later this year on screen. I love my transformer and even the prime didnt peak my interest enough to move up to it. So ur review even makes my decision to keep the original even better. Instead of like some fools who waste their money on the latest and not even have a clue as to why its better or if it even benefited them. Thx again for the review and heres to the duhhh factor.
Mark
Hbo Go is Apple exclusive now?
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where are you guys getting 2 years old? I bought the transformer just before christmas on Black Friday. It was release on April 1st 2011. It's not even a year old.
Please don't exaggerate to make a point, it defeats the whole purpose of a fair comparison.
Technology released within the same year deserves comparison. The ipad 2 can justly be compared as well since it was released before the transformer but within a year as well. The transformer prime can be compared as well.. All 4 models are available to purchase today at a best buy and are similarly priced within $100 of each other.
I would think nobody would replace their TF101 with the TF102 since it only upgrades the CPU/GPU. But I see people willing to upgrade the TF101 to the new ipad so i wanted to give my review of the devices since i happily own both. My review covers apps, O.S., screen, and intangibles as well which don't change between the tf101 and he tf201.
by the way, if you read what i said, this ipad replaced another ipad, not the tf101. we use both in the household as there are 4 of us. we like the ipad for its app exclusives and html5, this was just replacing the 2 year old ipad 1 which was lagging all the time with its limited RAM.
I don't dislike the TF101. I actually love the thing and have no plans to ditch it, just comparing the two.
Edit: Oops.. orateam beat me to the punch I'll just leave my reply here anyway since.. well, I can't be bothered to change it!
wicklet said:
OK im a bit confused here? So ur comparing a almost 2 year old original transformer to a brand new ipad?...
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I'm confused as well.. The Transformer was released on March 30, 2011.. Making it ALMOST a year old... Where do you get two years from? Gotta love technology time compression.
Now perhaps Asus had the hardware in development for a year prior to the release... but one would have to make the same assumption about apple... So... yeah... let's not get carried away with how "old and busted" the TF101 is.
-Matt
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Hbo Go is Apple exclusive now?
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i just noticed it's out there in the app store, but not compatible with any of my devices. I have the TF101, the htc sensation (tmobile), the Droid RZR (verizon), the Galaxy nexus (verizon), and the nook color.
That's the old one.
I'm interested in the 700 too. Why waste extra CPU/CPU cycles just to run a high resolution on a mobile device because its useless? Unlike PCs the change in resolution is very minor with a tad crisper text. WhooHoo. You don't get more screen space or any real benefit. I'd rather put those powerhouses to work rather then making text a little extra pretty. And of you have to use a microscope to see a difference then its null anyway.
If they would have left out the stupid resolution, the thing would be the next evolution of the iDevice... instead it plays everything the same speed has last years but at a ridiculous resolution.
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That's the old one.
I'm interested in the 700 too. Why waste extra CPU/CPU cycles just to run a high resolution on a mobile device because its useless? Unlike PCs the change in resolution is very minor with a tad crisper text. WhooHoo. You don't get more screen space or any real benefit. I'd rather put those powerhouses to work rather then making text a little extra pretty. And of you have to use a microscope to see a difference then its null anyway.
If they would have left out the stupid resolution, the thing would be the next evolution of the iDevice... instead it plays everything the same speed has last years but at a ridiculous resolution.
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people will always see what they want to see.
The screen looks a TON better. This is not a small thing. Today's websites are designed around the resolution of 1024x768 running on at least 15" monitors. Our TF101 is a great screen with 10 inches at 1280x800. But the screen is just 10 inches which means you're looking at a screen some 72% smaller than the recommended scree size per resolution for reading text. Great for videos, games, etc, but compressed size for our text reading. What that means is that our resolution should have gone up by the same percentage (72%) to just be as comfortable as a standard 15" monitor.
that's a resolution of 1761x1320. The new TF prime will eclipse that, but the current crop doesn't handle that. the ipad has 2048-by-1536 which is so good , its crazy. Its better than the websites were sized for by a good margin. the text is so clear, that it makes me want to browse sites on the ipad rather than my 1920x1200 monitor at home. Truthfully, we've never seen anything with this resolution before. I find it easier on my eyes than reading the paper, magazines, or anything else. I'm not a big reader because of eye strain, but i think i found something that may allow me to read books for real. I never liked the e-ink or any other tablet for reading before.
look, i'm not looking to sell this device, Apple has enough money and i'm afraid of them taking over the world. I'm just giving my honest opinion and review.
Transformer Infinity. The Prime is 1280x800. The Infinity was announced end of February with a 1920x1200 resolution, but no one cared. Now suddenly 1280x800 is not good enough where some people used to say 1024x768 was good enough versus 1280x800.
Actually, it was around CES in January.
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Transformer Infinity. The Prime is 1280x800. The Infinity was announced end of February with a 1920x1200 resolution but no one cared.
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based on what i've seen with the ipad, i will probably upgrade the tf101 to the infinity as long as it's not too expensive. needs to be no more than $499, like the ipad 3. when it slated to come out?
Asus definitely did something right with the tf101, it even looks like the first nexus tablet will be a partnership between these guys and google. All this review does is solidify how good the tf101 really is, almost a year later and it can contend with the new ipad, sure Big Brother has more apps, but how many people stuck with myspace before they finally realized facebook was "the new thing"
Lets be real here the only reason to get an iPad is for the app store to get apps that aren't available for Android. No one is going to be taking pictures of anything with the tablet they're going to look like retards with that huge thing to their head. After a day you'll forget about the screen so do what anyone else with the right mind would do and just return it and buy a refurbished iPad 2 and save a hundred and fifty bucks. Look on the bright side with the iPad 2 you won't have to worry about it heating up so much like the tons of reports on Mac forums and you won't have to deal with the yellow effect that everyone is getting. Just get the iPad 2, it even weighs less and saves you some cash to put into the new Asus Infinity Tablet coming soon.
Oh yea Ross Perot 2012
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Great review of both and like has been said a year on if the tf101 is competing and beating in some parts the new iPad then its still ok in my book,I think the 700 will be more of a match for the iPad3
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Lets be real here the only reason to get an iPad is for the app store to get apps that aren't available for Android. No one is going to be taking pictures of anything with the tablet they're going to look like retards with that huge thing to their head. After a day you'll forget about the screen so do what anyone else with the right mind would do and just return it and buy a refurbished iPad 2 and save a hundred and fifty bucks. Look on the bright side with the iPad 2 you won't have to worry about it heating up so much like the tons of reports on Mac forums and you won't have to deal with the yellow effect that everyone is getting. Just get the iPad 2, it even weighs less and saves you some cash to put into the new Asus Infinity Tablet coming soon.
Oh yea Ross Perot 2012
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No thanks. I put more value in the art than the tech. For me its 60/40.
I would pay the extra 100 anytime for this level of quality. Just as I will for the infinity.
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Hello, I have been around since day 1 and purchased a 3G Xoom from Best Buy on release day. Ofcourse it was odd from the start with no one in the store knowing what it was. I was showed the "Zune" lol..
Returned it @ day 14 and got a Gift card.
On release day I got the iPad 2 3G 32GB.
Yesterday, I traded my iPad2 for a New Xoom 3G + 200$.
Here is my review..
First off, a big thing in consideration to anyone is the weight.
I believe the Xoom weight's 1.6 and the iPad 2 1.3 but it is a noticeable difference.
If you are a weaker individual or feeble woman I wouldn't recommend the Xoom.
Weight: iPad 2
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I believe both devices are very sturdy and beautiful pieces of technology. But hand's down the Xoom feel's more expensive. From it's sleek curve's to even it's sexy back exposing the L.E.D flash.
Build Quality: Xoom
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Alot of people here say that because the Xoom has a higher res it's "better" but that's not true. I am guessing Motorola used Vizio type panel screen while Apple went with a higher quality. Nonetheless I still think if the iPad 2 screen is a 9/10 then the Xoom is 8.5/10.
Screen Quality: iPad 2
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Multimedia experience and video capabilities are a big thing to not only the modding community but the common folk alike. For instance, if my mom got the Xoom who is not very tech savy put video on it; She honestly wouldn't be able to.
The only downfall of the Xoom IS VIDEO PLAYBACK. ONLY.
And, iTunes. But.... What can you do right?
Speakers on the Xoom are vibrant and I absolutely love having back the Stereo sound.
L.E.D Flash on the device I can literally record in pitch black conditions. I have been having an issue with a little stuttering while recording though even in good lit conditions.
Hands down both Front/Rear Camera's are superior to iPad's.
Because of the fact this is a "open" device people like myself believed I could drag and drop easily movie's/tv show's and such to the Xoom. I hate this problem but hope it will fix itself.
Multimedia Experience: iPad 2
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The ability to access file system's easily and mod and one's will the Operating System to choose is obviously Android.
The beauty of every movement on Honeycomb is amazing. With the correct widgets and right wallpaper you can make your device a wonder to look at.
The iPad 2 is simply Box icons. I believe Apple will have to evolve this concept to keep up with Android Honeycomb. Remember, Android first started with a G1 with big iPhone.
All in all Operating System experience goes to the Xoom.
O.S Experience: Xoom
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Last but not least is the Web Browsing.
I could finish this review in a sentence and say Xoom is better but.... FORECLOSURES!!! It happened to my first and this as-well it will randomly just exit itself. So i'm deep into 3-4 tabs and boom everything exit's I lose all progress.
Beside's these pesky mishaps the Stock Browser is magnificent ! Flash is available although I keep off.
Web Experience will have to go with iPad 2 mainly because it is more refined and you can download so many "Tablet" specific replacement's. Will Honeycomb mature? I think so. But can anything happen to Google or.... What they see the future? They are still thinking of Chrome tablet's.
Web Experience: iPad 2
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Long and tedious review. It really depends on what you want from a device. Personally, I am happy I have the Xoom back... Android has a tremendous amount of potential I can feel it.
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If you are a weaker individual or feeble woman I wouldn't recommend the Xoom.
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Nearly choked on my sandwich when I read this I lol'd so hard
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Nearly choked on my sandwich when I read this I lol'd so hard
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I tried to read this over and over again. How is the screen quailty on the Xoom weaker than the Ipad 2?
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I tried to read this over and over again. How is the screen quailty on the Xoom weaker than the Ipad 2?
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I'm guessing he means in terms of colour vibrancy and general brightness, but not in terms of resolution.
I think he means in terms of brightness, while the Xoom has a much better resolution Apple stuck really bright lights in theirs to make it look better, as a result it has much brighter prettier colors
or something along those lines but most likely in a less sarcastic way
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I tried to read this over and over again. How is the screen quailty on the Xoom weaker than the Ipad 2?
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Xoom screen is "washed out" compare to my iPad 1. Heck, my Gtablet looks better, more pop (looking at the correct angle of course) than the xoom. Which one thing that really bother me about the xoom, everything else is golden, and I love it.
I'm waiting for the Asus transformer IPS screen tablet. I'll check it out and see if I still want to keep the xoom. I'm a photographer, and having a great screen on my tablet is a must.
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I could finish this review in a sentence and say Xoom is better but.... FORECLOSURES!!!
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I think maybe if you'd make your mortgage payments this wouldn't be a problem for you. I don't think you should blame the Xoom for your financial mismanagement.
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I tried to read this over and over again. How is the screen quailty on the Xoom weaker than the Ipad 2?
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You must be blind, ask your parents.
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I have a SmartQ R10, which has the same IPS screen as the iPad1/2. With that in mind, I feel that the IPS screen is superior to what the Xoom has. Screen angles are fine, but there's a slight bluish tint that I just can't get past on the Xoom (I think it's TFT screens, in general). The colors on the IPS screen seem more natural to me.
I'm an avid comics reader, and I can actually see the yellowing of the pages on the IPS screen. Not so much on the Xoom screen. Just my two cents.
You missed the 800 lb gorilla... apps.
On one you have tens of thousands. The other has a handful.
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Nearly choked on my sandwich when I read this I lol'd so hard
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I was being serious.. My Fiance hate's the Xoom as she get's tired holding it quickly. I love the feel personally as I feel it ad's to the feel of quality.
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I tried to read this over and over again. How is the screen quailty on the Xoom weaker than the Ipad 2?
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Brightness/Viewing Angles. Just go to a Best Buy. Turn Xoom brightness to Full then Turn iPad 2 brightness to full. Then also view a few similar websites and check viewing angles.
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You missed the 800 lb gorilla... apps.
On one you have tens of thousands. The other has a handful.
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You sure spend a lot of energy bashing a product you have stated that you only intend to return anyways. Do you have anything productive to add? Your posting history suggests not.
The xoom has thousands of apps that work just fine scaled up.
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Brightness/Viewing Angles. Just go to a Best Buy. Turn Xoom brightness to Full then Turn iPad 2 brightness to full. Then also view a few similar websites and check viewing angles.
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I already find the xoom too bright most of the time, I don't want more brightness, and I don't have any issues at all with the xoom's viewing angles.
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I was being serious.. My Fiance hate's the Xoom as she get's tired holding it quickly. I love the feel personally as I feel it ad's to the feel of quality.
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Do you call your fiance a weak feeble woman to her face?? I very much think not
I didn't know there was such a thing as an "unbiased" review. Isn't all of this one's personal preference thus making it biased? I think an unbiased review would be if just specs were compared. Once preference or one's "experience" get involved it then turns to biased because everyones preference or experience could differ. Thanks for the good info though.
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You sure spend a lot of energy bashing a product you have stated that you only intend to return anyways. Do you have anything productive to add? Your posting history suggests not.
The xoom has thousands of apps that work just fine scaled up.
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Someone's grumpy...
What's the point of awkwardly scaled up phone apps? I'll answer that, there is none. The only thing that matters is tablet apps.
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Someone's grumpy...
What's the point of awkwardly scaled up phone apps? I'll answer that, there is none. The only thing that matters is tablet apps.
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Give it time, young Padawan. Even your mighty ipad had little that was tablet optimized for weeks/months after launch. (I know, I had a 64gig one from launch day). It lived on scaled phone apps as well, but in a MUCH uglier fashion.
I love my Xoom. But my wifes iPad 1 has a nicer looking screen with better viewing angle. I have a laptop witha similar screen to the Xoom, and I believe a lot has to do with which type of diffuser they use.
Is it the galaxy better than the xoom? Is it easy to root and change rom? Whats your thoughts
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Better? That's a matter of opinion. Its lighter and thinner and has a better screen but doesn't have an SD card slot and hasn't been rooted yet.
I don't own the tab yet, but this is an obvious answer. Aside from the USB port, soft touch back, and SD slot, the GTab10.1 is superior.
For what matters to me, it's clearly better. The screen is no question much improved over the Xoom.
It's also lighter in the hand than the Xoom, which is important to me as I read most of my books on electronic devices now.
The Xoom of course has more connectivity. But for me, having an SD card slot and USB connectors vs. Samsung's propriety cable is not really important. And I should mention that the Xoom still doesn't have SD card functionality as far as I know.
I would say the only con that I have noticed is that the Xoom charged quite quickly. The Samsung takes much longer to charge, but seems to hold it's charge much longer. So it's a bit of a trade off there. It shouldn't be a problem as long as you remember to plug it in overnight for instance.
i have both...had both i just returned my 10.1 about an hour ago, and to me the 10.1 is better out the box, but i might have to factor in that my Xoom was HC 3.0 out the box. i was going to return my Xoom that first week until the customization took off and pretty much improved the Xoom in every way, i'm not sure if the 10.1 will receive this support and how difficult it will be without an sd card. the 10.1 is streamed lined, light, with even weight distribution, and the screen is 10 times better than the Xoom's in my opinion.
For me the Tab is surely better than the Xoom. I think the Xoom is also expensive than the Tab. The Transformer vs the Tab is a more tricky choice.
I really hated the Xoom. Has such a thin bezel that is uncomfortable to hold and and too heavy. The screen as so bland and washed out looking.
I also had a Transformer. My opinion is...
Galaxy Tab 10.1 > Transformer > Iconia A500 > Xoom
Had a xoom returned it after a week. So far I'm liking the overall build quality of the GT10.1it just feels really good in my hand. The xoom obviously felt sturdier due to its metal frame but way heavier. The GT screen is way better.xoom always seemed kind of washed out. I returned the xoom because I bought it under contact with verizon and just felt to many pieces of the puzzle were missing for its release. It has the most functionality(in theory, but not in practice) whenever it gets around to allowing you to due what its advertised to. But the GT is flawed at the moment. I use a mac mini but have to boot into windows on it just to transfer files, not cool. I spoke to a samsung tech person directly and was told mac isn't supported at this time. That's just beyond stupid to me. I still hate that there is no native video app for android. How can you sell a device that's main selling point is media and you don't even have a movie/video app out of the box. I feel once the baby is rooted her true beauty will shine. Till then its the same old waiting game I played with the xoom but without the contract.
I'll 2nd (or 3rd) the comments on screen quality. My XOOM's (returned just before June 8) screen was really washed-out - this was a bit of a disappointment for me. I had no real gripe about the weight or thickness, it did feel very sturdy in my hands.
Have not received my GT yet (Tues!), but from what I have been reading, the screen is a nice improvement. We'll see how it feels in my hands once I get it.
I never owned a Xoom, had a Nook Color for about a week before returning it (not fast enough) but I straight up love my GT. Screen is amazing, battery life is stellar, and it's nice and light. It's definitely still feeling a bit underpowered. Some stuttering when adding a new widget/icon to the homescreen and the text input lag in the stock browser. Beyond that though it's great. Just need to get some root access up in this ***** now!
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I really hated the Xoom. Has such a thin bezel that is uncomfortable to hold and and too heavy. The screen as so bland and washed out looking.
I also had a Transformer. My opinion is...
Galaxy Tab 10.1 > Transformer > Iconia A500 > Xoom
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Well I think that depends. The keyboard dock and added connectivity of the Asus make it a better deal especially with quad core tablets less than 6 months away. The screen of Samsung might pop more but with oversaturated colors. The Asus screen is still quite great looking as good as ipad2 but higher pixel density.
having built in HDMI and micro SD is nice and the dock has come in quite handy as a stand extended battery and netbook device. Not to mention having 2 USB ports and SD card slot really allows it to import photos videos etc makink it great for travel with a camera etc.
Also paid only 9$ more for tablet dock combo than the grab alone would cost me.
Also right now great Dev support for Asus with root and OC kernels as well as custom Roms
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Well I think that depends. The keyboard dock and added connectivity of the Asus make it a better deal especially with quad core tablets less than 6 months away. The screen of Samsung might pop more but with oversaturated colors. The Asus screen is still quite great looking as good as ipad2 but higher pixel density.
having built in HDMI and micro SD is nice and the dock has come in quite handy as a stand extended battery and netbook device. Not to mention having 2 USB ports and SD card slot really allows it to import photos videos etc makink it great for travel with a camera etc.
Also paid only 9$ more for tablet dock combo than the grab alone would cost me.
Also right now great Dev support for Asus with root and OC kernels as well as custom Roms
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I agree the Transformer is the better deal, however I think those of us looking for just a pure tablet experience really don't care about Asus' dock. 2 devices targeted for different crowds. I had both the TF and iPad2 at the same time, and played with the Xoom for about a week. Although the TF's screen was a bit sharper than the iPad2's, it's black levels were nowhere near iPad2's or the 10.1's. Xoom's screen just isn't in the same playing field. Both TF and iPad2 have terrible light bleed, however the screen on the TF is the dimmest of them all requiring to blast the brightness in daylight making it's light bleed more apparent. Sure, to some 10.1's colors are oversaturated, but Supercurio has already confirmed he can tone down the colors with no custom kernel needed, so that option is nice and he said he tried for the TF but wasn't successful.
USB and HDMI capabilities are also available as add-ons on the 10.1. Of course 10.1 owners are going to have to pay extra (and let's face it, most of us who bought the 10.1 threw out the best bang for the buck state of mind once we started looking into the 10.1), but they also have that option to import movies, pics, etc, making easy to travel with a camera as well.
A lot of people who haven't actually held the 10.1 don't really appreciate the form factor as well. It may not sway buying decisions, but I bet it'll get people's mind thinking "damn, but this one is so light".
Yes, dev support for the Asus is higher. It makes sense since TF was released like 2 months ago and of course has the better price point. But I'm sure 10.1 will be seeing some action once the kernel sources are released.
But to get this topic back on track... To us who bought the 10.1, I feel it's better than the Xoom. I would pick the TF over the Xoom. But I'm sticking with my 10.1.. no light bleed, both speakers work, more detailed (when watching 720p movies) and brightest screen, less glare, better black levels, and of course form factor. I will give it to the TF that it felt a little more fluid while browsing and it's firmware updates were super fast, though.
The Samsung device is great if you want an ipad2 in android clothing.
If you want the functionality and expandability to go beyond a simple tablet experience then TF us way to go. Your description if TF screen makes it sound bad when in fact it is a great screen. Is the Samsun screen better? Yes. By orders of magnitude? No. It it thinner and lighter? A bit. The part you hold on the TF is only 9 mm similar to the 10.1 but it is thicker in the middle.
If you want a device to carry a lot of media with you the tab will fill up.
Have an iPad 1 with most of my photos and music and burned through all 64 gb. 32 is just not doable. 32 plus room to pop in micro sd cards to have more is manageable.
Never said TF was a bad screen in general. Just said compared to the iPad2 (black levels) and the 10.1, it's not as great. Look at my picture below. On the right is the Transformer at 90% brightness, and the left is the iPad2 at 60%. Now look at the actual movie and not the black bars. You'll see they are pretty much the same. Had the Transformer been put at 60% it'd be way dimmer than the iPad2. Now look at the black bars. iPad2 maintains its contrast ratio where as the black bars are washed out on the TF. Also notice light bleed on the TF because it has to be blasted to match iPad2.
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I'll disagree with your by orders of magnitude comment, but it's purely subjective unless you really know what to look for in a screen. My guess is that you haven't played with the 10.1 yet because your posts in this forum are only about the Transformer.. and your other posts are in the Transformer forum.
You make it sound like the 10.1 isn't expandable, when indeed it is. SD card adapter coming out. But to go beyond that, there's the USB dongle which you can hook up a thumb drive, or connect an SD card reader to.
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I certainly do not speak for everyone else here, but that's pretty much what I wanted.
And why not? I don't output HD movies to my TV. I don't use more than 32GB on a device that isn't a full-fledged computer or doesn't hold my music; and my Nexus S is my music player right now, so my Tab won't have to deal with that. I don't need to break out a physical keyboard to type out a forum post (normally), and when I do need any of that, I have a laptop running Ubuntu.
The only important accessories that I may need are: a gamepad (Wiimote or other Bluetooth gamepad), something to stand it up every now and then (whatever's around to prop it up against at the time), and if I ever need extra storage or some newfangled USB gadget for tablet, I'll go out and buy that USB connector.
i'm primarily going to using my tablet for online video watching, web browsing and a bit of gaming. When I think of these things, I feel the GT is better suited to my needs, (and supercurio's recommendation helped a lot considering I love his sound and screen work on the Nexus S) and I think honestly that it's the best pure tablet experience. The Transformer is a solid tablet, but it feels like something better suited for those who want a mix of a tablet and a netbook. Which is great for a lot of people no doubt, but I just want a great tablet experience, my laptop serves me faithfully for the other things.
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Never said TF was a bad screen in general. Just said compared to the iPad2 (black levels) and the 10.1, it's not as great. Look at my picture below. On the right is the Transformer at 90% brightness, and the left is the iPad2 at 60%. Now look at the actual movie and not the black bars. You'll see they are pretty much the same. Had the Transformer been put at 60% it'd be way dimmer than the iPad2. Now look at the black bars. iPad2 maintains its contrast ratio where as the black bars are washed out on the TF. Also notice light bleed on the TF because it has to be blasted to match iPad2.
I'll disagree with your by orders of magnitude comment, but it's purely subjective unless you really know what to look for in a screen. My guess is that you haven't played with the 10.1 yet because your posts in this forum are only about the Transformer.. and your other posts are in the Transformer forum.
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So you dont mind the orange skins on people when viewing movies on the 10.1???? Cause that is what I am seeing right now on my 10.1. I bet you have your lcd or plasma on torn mode at home? "more detailed (when watching 720p movies)" compare to what the TF???? You may need to get your eyes check!!!
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So you dont mind the orange skins on people when viewing movies on the 10.1???? Cause that is what I am seeing right now on my 10.1.
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That's the auto-tanning (for the melanin-challenged) feature silly!
Lol, supercurio says he'll release a hack for more accurate color reproduction on the 10.1, so I wouldn't say it's a big weakness for long... but yeah, Samsung loves to crank up the saturation on their screens.
I've owned the Xoom, Galaxy Tab 7", Viewsonic G Tablet, Blackberry playbook, iPad 1 and iPad 2 and now the 10.1..
My Xoom experience follows everything else everybody else said... Washed out, low brightness LCD on the Xoom.. the screen really broke the device for me.. In a brightly-lit room, the Xoom was nearly useless! I didn't mind so much the extra weight of the Xoom, I can deal with it.
The screen on the 10.1 is something equal to the ipad1/2 screen, PLS vs. IPS.. I can't really say that Samsung's PLS dominates the LG screen used in the ipad1/2.. I think the iPad screens are fantastic.. I would say both are equal in terms of quality.
Something in the drivers on the 10.1 seem broken tho.. My entire SGT 10.1 experience feels laggy and slow.. Running Angry Birds Rio on the Xoom, the FPS is WAYYY higher than it is on the SGT10.1.. And also with many other games, everything is slowed down on the Samsung.
Feels like Samsung rushed the drivers out the door and left us with a choppy feeling Honeycomb device.
As of today, I think the 10.1 is a halfway broken device.. something is broken inside.. Im sure it'll be fixed quickly, but for now, it's a little disappointing..
The hardware side, the entire device is excellent.. I wish it had a microSD slot though.
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Never said TF was a bad screen in general. Just said compared to the iPad2 (black levels) and the 10.1, it's not as great. Look at my picture below. On the right is the Transformer at 90% brightness, and the left is the iPad2 at 60%. Now look at the actual movie and not the black bars. You'll see they are pretty much the same. Had the Transformer been put at 60% it'd be way dimmer than the iPad2. Now look at the black bars. iPad2 maintains its contrast ratio where as the black bars are washed out on the TF. Also notice light bleed on the TF because it has to be blasted to match iPad2.
I'll disagree with your by orders of magnitude comment, but it's purely subjective unless you really know what to look for in a screen. My guess is that you haven't played with the 10.1 yet because your posts in this forum are only about the Transformer.. and your other posts are in the Transformer forum.
You make it sound like the 10.1 isn't expandable, when indeed it is. SD card adapter coming out. But to go beyond that, there's the USB dongle which you can hook up a thumb drive, or connect an SD card reader to.
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First off the picture you posted has the brightness cranked on the TF. It is clearly brighter in picture than the ipad. I have done comparison with ipad 1 which I also own side by side with same movie trailer on both and the differences were negligible.
And I don't consider taking a dongle with me as expandable. Unless you intend to keep that dongle attached all the time for the added storage. But wait then you can't charge it or plug it into a TV and run a video off of it.
Had Samsung included a micro SD card and or an HDMI port I would have supported it more. I still say it is an ipad wannabe in android form. No more no less. Not a bad thingbgiven the ipad is the best tablet out right now. But my knock against the ipad is it is a giant iPhone well the galaxy tab is like a giant android phone. It lacks the hardware add ins that give it more functionality. For many is fine. For me it would mean still needing my laptop and phone for.many tasks meaning less use day to day, which was exactly why I gave my wife my Ipad. I was just not using it enough.
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So you dont mind the orange skins on people when viewing movies on the 10.1???? Cause that is what I am seeing right now on my 10.1. I bet you have your lcd or plasma on torn mode at home? "more detailed (when watching 720p movies)" compare to what the TF???? You may need to get your eyes check!!!
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Color gamut has nothing to do with detail. When I say detail, its more about sharpness.
Perhaps you should educate yourself a bit more with video terminology.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-5...have-a-clue-as-to-why-they-need-the-new-ipad/
I've been saying this all along. Most people won't be able to tell the difference between HD display and retina display. And most ipad buyers buy the ipad without knowing exactly why.
oooohhh shiny i want one.....oh wait i have something better lol.
Apple are bieist SOBS, When I was watching the IPad 3 keynote I was literally grinding my teeth as they laughed at Android's small flaws (which wernt exactly flaws) and promoted the iPad flawless in comparison compared. This happens every year and this year is no different to apple's routine to demotivate other companies at every keynote!, plus the biggest WTF moment in the whole keynote was when they compared the tegra 3 to the apple A5 and A5X chips and told the tegra to be the lowest one in all of them!!! I mean come on ! A5 was a dual core and Tegra 3 is a quad core plus the 5th ninja core!! WTF APPLE! #$%& you!
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Apple are bieist SOBS, When I was watching the IPad 3 keynote I was literally grinding my teeth as they laughed at Android's small flaws (which wernt exactly flaws) and promoted the iPad flawless in comparison compared. This happens every year and this year is no different to apple's routine to demotivate other companies at every keynote!, plus the biggest WTF moment in the whole keynote was when they compared the tegra 3 to the apple A5 and A5X chips and told the tegra to be the lowest one in all of them!!! I mean come on ! A5 was a dual core and Tegra 3 is a quad core plus the 5th ninja core!! WTF APPLE! #$%& you!
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Apple clearly are the Kings when it comes to spinning stuff...
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-5...have-a-clue-as-to-why-they-need-the-new-ipad/
I've been saying this all along. Most people won't be able to tell the difference between HD display and retina display. And most ipad buyers buy the ipad without knowing exactly why.
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The same can be said about most consumers who buy Android also.
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The same can be said about most consumers who buy Android also.
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quoted for truth
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The same can be said about most consumers who buy Android also.
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Well you have your hardcore groups in either. I know people with an iPad 1 that didn't feel compelled to buy a 2... but the jump from 1 to 3 warrants a new purchase. I have a Transformer but didn't rush out for the Prime just because. Mine works great and nothing pushes it to a place where it under performs. Same with any make and model.
Its like console sales. Fanboys always say PS3 is selling more or 360 has the lead.... but eventually everyone who wants one will have one and numbers decline. Putting a bigger processor to run a larger screen resolution cancel out the speed benefits of said quad core. Plus native resolution will look good on any screen designed to run that specific resolution. My transformer has a beautiful screen with great clarity but I'm not running 1920x1200... how can that be!!!!
Super high resolutions are best left for the big dogs (ie PCs). 1280x1024 is plenty for a 10" screen. My 26" LCD PC monitor runs at 1920x1200... overkill for a 10" screen.
The downfall is now your forced to stream higher quality video because 480p will look like total crap when stretched to much. That or play them at their native size which will be super tiny = defeats purpose. Plus iOS is faced with ANOTHER resolution change, and we all know apps don't scale in Apple land... so prepare to purchase all your apps and games for their HD+ editions all over again.
Pass.
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Um, no.
I went through quite a few tablets (including the ipad) before I settled down to the TF101. And when the prime came out, I didn't go and line up for hours/days to buy one on the first day. I still don't have a prime even though I've been thinking of upgrading. I just haven't found a good reason to upgrade yet.
i think apple needs to realize that a 4:3 resolution is NOT FOR MOVIES, NOT FOR WEBSITES
they should have gone with 2048x1280 for 16:10 res. 2048x1152 is just too thin(16:9, as in dell's SP2309W that is 2048x1152)
still though 1920x1200 is plenty for a 10 inch screen.
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i bet they asked some old people if they could tell the difference between 250ppi and 132ppi
for the record TF101 is at 150ppi. i think 200 is the sweet spot
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Um, no.
I went through quite a few tablets (including the ipad) before I settled down to the TF101. And when the prime came out, I didn't go and line up for hours/days to buy one on the first day. I still don't have a prime even though I've been thinking of upgrading. I just haven't found a good reason to upgrade yet.
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Um, yes. Maybe not you personally and i never say you. I'm just saying the majority of the consumers out there. you think the majority of Android users will even know what tegra2 is of you ask them. LOL
either ive converted a few people in our area or the Ipad3 just didnt do it for them.........
We took 4 paid pre orders on Thursday (yes only 4) - sold around the same amount again on the
launch day, and maybe a few more than that yesterday......so out of just over 40 we had around half still in stock left,
Think we sold more Ipad2 tbh. We had them side by side with the inpregnated Apple demo photos on the screen and although to some the difference was clear, others didnt see alot in it......infact the majority said "which ones the new one?".......and the ipad2 photos were taken in over cast conditions which showed the ipad3s sunny snaps up better (hmmm)
Ipad2 launch was carnage and was sold out in under half an hour - including main warehouse.
Personally the screen and camera to me are definately much improved.....didnt see much speed difference. Think id be disapointed going from a 2 to a 3 though.
When I was watching the IPad 3 keynote
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The disingenuous part of the speech was where he explains why the iPad will never be beaten by Android tablets: He proceeds to show two apps, for each app he shows the the Android version which looks like a stretched/scaled phone app and then he shows the iOS version which look like HC/ICS tablet apps.
There's several problems with this:
A) If this is his justification for that statement, his justification is a joke.
B) His team handpicked the two worst apps to make his point. It's like claiming you're the strongest in the village and beating up a toddler to prove it. If he wanted to do a fair comparison he should have compared the iOS YouTube app to the Android HC/ICS YouTube app because the YouTube app (and other apps like the G-Mail app) on HC/ICS showcases the new ActionBar and Fragment classes Google introduced from HC onward.
He took the two worst apps that didn't utilize these classes and of course as a result they looked like **** compared to the iOS versions. His justification = a big LOL.
Here's a picture diagram of the YouTube app on both Android and iOS and you'll see they're very similar and if he had shown this it would have deflated his weak punchline. Each fragment (in red/blue) can hold what used to be separate activities so you can see multiple activities on the screen at once on the extra real estate of a tablet screen. The menu is no longer hidden by a hardware or software button. It's proudly displayed on the top as an Options Menu on the ActionBar for crucial options and the rest or what won't fit goes in the overflow menu (green).
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Just wait 'til they announce the iPhone 5...eh...I mean the iPhone 4GS.
Are the ipad 3's suffering from random reboot issues? We can laugh at them all we want, and but at least they have working devices!
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erm we will get a fix for that u know dont be so cynical
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Are the ipad 3's suffering from random reboot issues? We can laugh at them all we want, and but at least they have working devices!
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I'm still puzzled by this random reboot thing that's supposedly plaguing the TF101's out there. None of the 15 TF's we have have random reboots. They all go into deep sleep just fine. I haven't charged my TF since Thursday. It goes into deep sleep almost immediately after the screen is turned off.
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I'm still puzzled by this random reboot thing that's supposedly plaguing the TF101's out there. None of the 15 TF's we have have random reboots. They all go into deep sleep just fine. I haven't charged my TF since Thursday. It goes into deep sleep almost immediately after the screen is turned off.
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Your 15 tf's might be all good but the FACT is the random reboot problem exist. It's posted all over this and other forums.
Personally i dont suffer from this random reboot but I'm not going to pretend ALL TF are like mine.
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Are the ipad 3's suffering from random reboot issues? We can laugh at them all we want, and but at least they have working devices!
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Lol! Nice...but very weak dig at Android!
You're right though. Apple devices are perfect . I mean I've never seen my friend shake the thing all over trying to get the screen to "auto " rotate. Or whine when when I plug my Android device in to a computer it just connects and doesn't have to sync every time.
Point is : there are little annoyances on every platform. If you're going to try yo down Android to speak nicely of ipud, at least try harder
PS : aren't you in the wrong forum if you're bah bah bahhhhing for the ipud? Lol
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Asus Transformer all the way.
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Lol! Nice...but very weak dig at Android!
You're right though. Apple devices are perfect . I mean I've never seen my friend shake the thing all over trying to get the screen to "auto " rotate. Or whine when when I plug my Android device in to a computer it just connects and doesn't have to sync every time.
Point is : there are little annoyances on every platform. If you're going to try yo down Android to speak nicely of ipud, at least try harder
PS : aren't you in the wrong forum if you're bah bah bahhhhing for the ipud? Lol
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I've got three android devices, two ios devices and one webos device. They all have their strengths and weaknesses, but there's no doubt that the ios devices are better built and offer a better user experience.
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The idea behind this thread is to have all reviews, opinions and feedback of note users collated under one roof.
This would make things simple for everyone easy to post opinions updates feedback, for those who look upon us before making a purchasing decision easier to find them.
I hope this is not take in a wrong way the whole idea is to get things organize so information is easier to find and not scattered around but not boss around or offend anyone.
I just got my note yesterday and I have to say that it's a pretty amazing and fast piece of tech. I'll come back to edit this review more as I use it (and receive my case so I can use it a little more roughly like I normally do).
So far:
Pros-
Amazingly fast.
No stutters (I had the original Transformer TF101.. which had lags sometimes).
Sound is amazing (why don't other tablets have front speakers?).
Wacom stylus is streets ahead of capacitive crap / sorry adonit jot just doesn't cut it).
Multi-tasking is awesome!
Cons-
S-note is.. underwhelming. (But lecture notes was great!) Seriously wished s-note was better because I kind of like it.
Multi-tasking is limited.. (although we get the Galaxy Note 2's multitasking abilities after we get jb right?)
EDIT:
Just used this for class.. and doodling, amazing! It's like taking notes on paper, without the weight and fuss and ink and ****, and I can copy and paste stuff. Also, I used it in the crapper, and it's amazing for reddit and stuff because it won't crash from loading too many images. But the stylus is freaking fantastic! AHHHh! (BTW, LectureNotes is definitely worth it. I like Papyrus more than it in the beginning because Papyrus was easier to use, but LectureNotes' customizability is waaaaay worth the learning curve.)
This is a general trend because of the aprehensions created by biased reviews people have doubts before purchasing a note but ones they have got one they are happy I have yet to see any one regretting purchasing a note
It is a great devices there is no doubt about it
I do not use S notes so no positive or negative feedback but yes those on JB say there are some improvements on Snote
The multiapps feature is limited and with JB some more apps have been added but again no google native apps have been added but the reason for the limitation is due to the reason that for every app code needs to be added and apps needs to be recompiled the problem is that Samsung cannot control the updates of google apps they are push directly and hence it will be difficult but I think in future as time goes by more and more developers will adapt the feature and so the number of apps with multiview will grow
Different Benchmark scores and comparison with other tablets in market (courtesy engadget)
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The Antutu score for Tab 10.1 is 4772 which almost 60% lower then note
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 to replace the Brussels Philharmonic orchestra’s paper sheet music
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/11/sa...ls-philharmonic-orchestras-paper-sheet-music/
Please go to the link for more information
But it is great to see that instead of paper samsung note is being used and one of the key reasons being for it unique features.
Something to be proud of if you are a note owner
I am making a compilation of different review threads and posting the links of those over here so its easy for people to find them
All credit goes to the respect members who have posted on those threads!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839603
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833169
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1972718
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975869
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1969897
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1942033
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1847817
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1953910
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833842
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1838739
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1944870
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929997
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1847491
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1939397
If any of the thread starters feel I am offending please let me know will delete the link immediately
I still love using my Note 10.1. Its never given me any problems. Its worked well out the box since day one. So much so that I stayed stock and feel no need to root it. Can't wait till we get JB update. I am very tempted to get a Nexus 10 also. Bit I have too many devices as it is. This device performing so well makes it hard to justify getting another android tab. Aside from screen resolution increase and newer/more powerful processor. And HDMI port built onto device..lol
The only improvements that I would make hardware wise, would be screen resolution and more memory. Software changes would be more apps available to be used in multi screen.
Other than that everything else is spot on.
Another victory for Galaxy note 10.1
http://www.designntrend.com/article...ng-galaxy-note-apple-microsoft-surface-rt.htm
Here’s yet another blow for Apple, which is embroiled in a multi-billion dollar battle with Samsung.
Consumer Reports, a magazine that reviews consumer products, recently pitched Samsung Galaxy Note, and not the market-dominating iPad, as the most groundbreaking tablet of 2012.
Based on performance and innovation, the magazine noted that “the 10-inch Galaxy Note adds capabilities that no other tablet, not even the Apple iPad, currently offers. An excellent performer overall, it almost matches the superb battery life of the iPad and adds a memory-card slot that its rival lacks.”
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On the design front too, many reviewers feel that the Galaxy Note scores over the third generation of iPad. For instance, the Apple iPad 3 has an all aluminum back and glass front, which makes the device heavy. On the other hand, the Galaxy Note has gone for a plastic construction, which makes it easy to hold for long hours.
But if its style over substance, the iPad 3 is the best choice as it “looks and feels like the premium option,” according to an IBTimes
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Another victory for Galaxy note 10.1...
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Until the note 10.1 is used as the reference tablet, or reviewed without comparison to other tablets will be the day. Until that day arrive the iPad is still top dog for most.
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Until the note 10.1 is used as the reference tablet, or reviewed without comparison to other tablets will be the day. Until that day arrive the iPad is still top dog for most.
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Very true. But it's hard because the iPad has been cemented in people's heads as THE tablet. Honestly, most people I know (who aren't tech people, but aren't "stupid, tech-phobes" just refer to all tablets as "iPads" in the same way people refer to tissue as kleenex. I'm not sure how any tablet can get away with not being compared to the iPad unless Apple bankrupts or keeps getting bad publicity (and still, not that much honestly) for suing everyone for everything.
Its a brand preception which was generated we can say the same for Iphone but yet S3 has over taken it, yes all people are not techsavy but most of them understand a difference between Ipad and Note the only reason they buy an Ipad is because of the hype surrounding it again it is a brand which has generated over time and it is a good product there is no denying that
Overtime like things have changed for Iphone it will change of Ipad because Apple has reached its peak and now it will slide down like Apple Samsung is looking towards reaching its peak and after it enjoys its stay over there someone else will do that.
After using the note 10.1 for 3 months, I feel that if you are looking for a generic tablet for media and content consumption, a tablet like iPad or the nexus 10 will be more suitable for you, with higher resolution screen on paper and either same price or cheaper. However if you're looking for true productivity, multitasking and content creation (taking notes, replacing pen and paper for a student), note 10.1 is definitely the best option. Well if you're reading this you're definitely not a generic user or average consumer so you know what to choose I personally have no regrets buying it as a student. Have not touched a pen or paper for very long and my laptopis collecting slightly more dust than ever.
i used my note for like 1 month , i really loved it so much , good screen res , very good smooth , no lag at all
u can hold ur pen and type what u want , multitasking are very poweful
i can play all games , i can play with photoshop
finally all i can say u will hold tablet that makes u dont need a PC
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Coming from the Asus Transformer Prime TF201, I have to say, this tablet is amazing. My prime suffered from WiFi, Bluetooth, gps light bleed, and I/O issues, even with sending it to Asus. This tablet fixes all of that and still adds more. I was worried about the screen being small, but I looked at the specs of my Prime to find out they both have the same resolution. This tablet is fast, sleek, and does everything I wanted in a tablet. I would highly recommend this tablet to anyone who wants a productivity device or creative device.
I had to make the hard decision between the Nexus 10 & the Note 10.1. I watch a lot of videos & I love great looking picture quality. The Nexus 10 was the best choice in that department, but it didn't offer much else to me personally right out of the box. The Note 10.1 on the other hand did (especially since I'm a student). After looking at the reviews, I was kind of down on the screen, but I was quite impressed when I actually saw it in the store. The screen is not top of the line, but it's actually quite good. Coming from a long line of AMOLED products, the colours look fantastic. Highly recommend this for students & those who just want their tablets to do more.
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but I was quite impressed when I actually saw it in the store. The screen is not top of the line, but it's actually quite good. Coming from a long line of AMOLED products, the colours look fantastic. Highly recommend this for students & those who just want their tablets to do more.
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This was my deciding factor(along with the fact I had a newegg gift card). The "reviewers" harp on it for having a 1200 x 800 screen, instead of looking at what it offers. I decided to look at amazon reviews which praised the tablet. I also went into the store to check it out to find the screen really beautiful. I would highly recommend someone go into the store and check out tablets instead of reading paid reviewers.
The reviewers have only one major so called flaw by them to work with thats the display so all they do is use it to critized the note and create an impression that it is a bad peice of hardware what is surprising is that for a so called bad device there is only praises from the actual users
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The reviewers have only one major so called flaw by them to work with thats the display so all they do is use it to critized the note and create an impression that it is a bad peice of hardware what is surprising is that for a so called bad device there is only praises from the actual users
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They have to find something to grab on to make the device seem worse then the iPad. It is amazing what they say sometimes.
My opinion about note 10.1
I have the impression there is two distinct opinions about the note, i don't know why.
Before i buy the note 10.1 i read a lot of reviews from sites and magazines and so on, and most of all don't give me a good impression of the note 10.1. In general it was a regular tablet.
But in other way when reading the opinion of the users, all of them said wonderful things, some of them already use other tablets like Ipad. And the most important was that they talk about things that i didn't read on the reviews.
One of that things was the S-Pen, yes they talk about it, but, just superficial. I use the pen to do almost everything, write mails, documents, notes, internet.
I can edit photos and videos using software that came installed by root, don't need to buy it. I can make art with it (abstract art because my drawings....). I have real multitask.
I use this tablet for working, not just for read, or using the internet, thats the big diference. Everything i do on a computer i do it here, with a litle bit of practice, but I can do it.
About the display, have anyone already put the note 10.1 side by side with a full HD, my laptop is 17" full hd and i didn't found any diference. Perhaps brightness and colors, but even the same display could appaer different on this aspects, but in the pixels I cannot find.
As you can see i like very much my note 10.1 :good:
Sorry my english, its not my mother language
I got the new Nexus 7 at Walmart and also picked up the old Nexus in perfect condition from Craigslist for $85. Been spending time working with both side-by-side all morning. My thoughts...
1. The new one seems marginally quicker at some things like swiping between screens in the launcher. That to me is the most noticeable difference, and it's not that big of a change. I am thinking the better graphic acceleration contributes here.
2. I can't tell much difference in the screens. I know there is more resolution, but with my bifocals, I am just fine with the old screen. Saturation on the new screen seems a teeny bit better, but there is also a slight buish tint. I expected to be blown away by the new screen. I'm not.
3. Call me crazy, but I prefer the feel in the hand of the old version. The more rounded edges and the back feel better to me. Can't tell much of a difference in weight, but the new one definitely feels thinner, and the thinness cuts into my palm a bit more. I don't like the thinner bezels at all. And the new one is slightly taller, feels kind of awkwardly shaped.
4. The new tablet takes significantly longer to charge.
5. I couldn't care less about the front camera. Will never use it.
6. Perhaps the deal-killer for me is that the new version has some kind of touchscreen problem. The keyboard gives double-presses, and single touches on buttons (like "accept" in the Play Store) too often requires multiple tries. Anybody else noticing this? Maybe mine is bad?
All-in-all, it looks like the new Nexus 7 has provided a nice opportunity to get the old version cheap for me. After trying both, I don't see a compelling reason to stay with the new one. Just my honest assessment. Your mileage may vary.
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having seen 2 different N7 2013 units already, i'd say the screen is a lottery just like it was with the 1st model. yellow tint, contrast setting and scroll blur will vary on each one. btw i never understood the reviews that go into some major details about the screen, like anandtech for example. don't get me wrong, their reviews are amazing but those screen technicalities are not worth anything seeing how the review unit will be different to any actual unit on the store shelves.
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I got the new Nexus 7 at Walmart and also picked up the old Nexus in perfect condition from Craigslist for $85. Been spending time working with both side-by-side all morning. My thoughts...
1. The new one seems marginally quicker at some things like swiping between screens in the launcher. That to me is the most noticeable difference, and it's not that big of a change. I am thinking the better graphic acceleration contributes here.
2. I can't tell much difference in the screens. I know there is more resolution, but with my bifocals, I am just fine with the old screen. Saturation on the new screen seems a teeny bit better, but there is also a slight buish tint. I expected to be blown away by the new screen. I'm not.
3. Call me crazy, but I prefer the feel in the hand of the old version. The more rounded edges and the back feel better to me. Can't tell much of a difference in weight, but the new one definitely feels thinner, and the thinness cuts into my palm a bit more. I don't like the thinner bezels at all. And the new one is slightly taller, feels kind of awkwardly shaped.
4. The new tablet takes significantly longer to charge.
5. I couldn't care less about the front camera. Will never use it.
6. Perhaps the deal-killer for me is that the new version has some kind of touchscreen problem. The keyboard gives double-presses, and single touches on buttons (like "accept" in the Play Store) too often requires multiple tries. Anybody else noticing this? Maybe mine is bad?
All-in-all, it looks like the new Nexus 7 has provided a nice opportunity to get the old version cheap for me. After trying both, I don't see a compelling reason to stay with the new one. Just my honest assessment. Your mileage may vary.
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1. Do you play graphics/processor intensive games? The new processor crushes the old one. I don't recommend the upgrade if smoother swiping between screens is all you're looking for.
2. Again, if you are content with the old resolution... stick with that. Clearly, the majority of reviewers and myself personally are in love with the screen. When I use my GS3 now, I cringe.
3. That's great that you like the old thickness. Sounds like an issue with your expectations.... Not the device itself.
4. You have a point here.
5. You should have known this prior to buying the device.... How can you be underwhelmed by a feature you already knew you didn't want...
6. Never had this happen on the two 32 g models I've used.
TL;DR You're doing it wrong. Stop hating on the device because your expectations are off... Doesn't sound like what you need out of a tablet demands a new Nexus 7... you can't blame the tablet for that.
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Well the reason it takes longer to charge is the old nexus 7 came with a 2 amp charger and the new one only has a 1.3 amp
I for one LOVE the new screen, if you can't see the difference then your in the minority.
An $85 older Nexus 7 is a great value. Just keep it and return the New Nexus, if you do think it worth the premium to you.
I love everything about the New Nexus 7. It is what I expected from Google/Asus and they delivered. What else do you want them to do at the $229 price point? Google has put in a nice 1080p display, underclocked S600 processor, 2gig of ram, 5ghz wifi and the memory subsystem has been approved over the original. My only real criticism is the lack of SD card slot but that is true for any Google device. This is not the perfect tablet and people have to put their expectations in check.
Can anyone compare another $229 tablet to this one? Even the $400 Note 8 gets beat buy this and I'm a Note 2 owner.
I mean for all that are reading this and don't have one yet the truth is this. Should you upgrade? Hell yes!!!! Now when is the question to you I sold my 16gb gen1 for 170 a week ago came with cases so to spend 40 bucks to get the new one is nothing. Even if its 60 dollars its worth it. Think about how much apple fanboys spend to upgrade every year. The new nexus is better in every way possible.
Now if you happy with the old I understand most people are probably using this for reading stuff so the first one is fine. I just never really liked the first design wise
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I still have yet to see the new Nexus 7. I hadn't used my OG Nexus for probably 2 months and, now that I am again, I'm realizing how "good enough" it is. I'm going to have to see the new one to really convince myself to drop $270 on the 32gb.
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its a good upgrade, still a bit of stagger here and there. they should of went with the snapdragon 600 instead of the s4.
This gen is deff better then last gen i wasnt really liking how it felt on the first one this one feels and looks alot better
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its a good upgrade, still a bit of stagger here and there. they should of went with the snapdragon 600 instead of the s4.
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We already know its not just an S4 pro. Basically a binned and under clocked 600
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I'm not saying the new one isn't better... Just that it isn't $150 better (to me).
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It's underwhelming when you compare it against the high expectations of the first Nexus 7.
The original Nexus 7 made an absolute joke of all the other mfg's 7"-8" tablets at their existing price point. The ONLY reason you'd buy something other than a Nexus 7 was if you wanted micro sd card support - otherwise the specs were no contest. And why should they? Google was working on razor thin margins for the hardware compared to mfgs.
If you go to a box store and look at the new N7, and then look at all the other 7" tablets, everything else is still a joke and it's far from underwhelming. Google stated that they were making a profit on this one, but my guess is that a big part of this is being able to leverage Motorola's buying power/agreements to reduce individual component cost. Best buy is making a 3.5% margin on the new nexus 7 (8-9.4USD). - it barely makes sense to take up the floor space to sell the damn things and I'd wager that most other box retailers are not doing much better.
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It'd be genius if someone from BB knew that staples was running the tablet coupon of $30 off and launched early to cause staples to take a loss on their inventory ($~20 per unit).
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I'm not saying the new one isn't better... Just that it isn't $150 better (to me).
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I can understand that, especially after you mentioned picking up the 2012 Nexus 7 for $85 off Craig's list.
People here are gadget geeks and and spec-mongers, always wanting the latest and greatest (me included). Some of its get a little defensive if someone seen to put down our device of choice.
No I am not underwhelmed overall, but I am by the lack of optimization in the games I care about... The funny thing is the old N7 smokes this devices in both GTA3 and Vice City... go ahead, try and max out the settings, I dare any of you. Now I know this device is significantly more powerful but the bottom line is real world performance and I believe the OP raises a valid point: there isn't a significant difference.
Source: I've owned an N4 since launch (and now an N7.2) and had a friend's OG N7 for a couple weeks when they were out of town.
Yeah maybe the upgrade isn't worth an extra $150 over the 1st gen you just got, but it is still an upgrade and we want the latest and so most people are willing to pay the premium for that.
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This should be consolidated into a single "whine" thread instead of cluttering the forum.
Personally my first gen doesn't come close to touching my new one. Everything is so much faster, smoother and instant. Thanks to the extra RAM it doesn't get crippled when running lots of apps or updating. Can't believe anyone could use both devices and not come away thinking the new one is an upgrade and a half.
Oh, and the screen is flipping fantastic, my GS3 takes a second to get used to when switching directly between the two.
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This should be consolidated into a single "whine" thread instead of cluttering the forum.
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Yeah, a shame to clutter a general discussion forum with discussion.
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Well if chime, by the time your ready for an upgrade the og n7 will be worth peanuts