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Motorola Europe expects some updates for Milestone 2

I found it on their facebook profile in discussions tab. Heres the thread where they post it.

Italian Milestone 2 (just come on the market, with many months of delay) has 2.2.2 version.
I think it's the update we're waiting

My UK version has 2.2.
In a thread where I posted some bugs with this ROM, they also confirmed an update is on it's way. I however refuse to believe it will be 2.3. More like 2.2.3 with the keyboard fixed and mp3 cracking problem fixed.

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I do expect some updates for my Motorola Milestone 2, too!
It's okay to not treat my M2 like a flagship but still, some updates for a brand new electronic device is obligatory nowadays!

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They have some problems with discussions tab from a few days. Must wait.

w0ndersp00n said:
My UK version has 2.2.
In a thread where I posted some bugs with this ROM, they also confirmed an update is on it's way. I however refuse to believe it will be 2.3. More like 2.2.3 with the keyboard fixed and mp3 cracking problem fixed.
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Maybe I am writing about your thread but now there is something broken down on their FB profile

official Milestone 2 ITA
android version: 2.2.2
build: MILS2_U6_2.4.24
fixed euro button and (maybe) mp3 problem
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all this by a guy who just bought the M2 with this build in Italy

mkmck said:
Maybe I am writing about your thread but now there is something broken down on their FB profile
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An update is confirmed, just no schedule. But I guess we can wait... At least I can.

Can't someone try to get an SBF from this 2.4.24 ?

Rotkaeqpchen said:
Can't someone try to get an SBF from this 2.4.24 ?
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I don't think an SBF will leak.
A Nandroid backup however, would be realistic.

does anybody know if this update would apply for phones in Asia/Asia-Pac?
its such a pity that such a stellar phone is let down by poor update schedules from the manufacturers.

agent008my said:
does anybody know if this update would apply for phones in Asia/Asia-Pac?
its such a pity that such a stellar phone is let down by poor update schedules from the manufacturers.
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Nope, in this post (Chinese) :
goo.gl/EnFfO
Hongkong Manager of Motorola said that Milestone 2 will not upgrade to 2.3 in Asia/Asia-Pac,
In P.R.China, even the version of Official Moto SBFs are MLS2GC_U6_2.5.0_SIGNED or some above 2.2, actually, they are still Android 2.2.

waigx said:
Nope, in this post (Chinese) :
goo.gl/EnFfO
Hongkong Manager of Motorola said that Milestone 2 will not upgrade to 2.3 in Asia/Asia-Pac,
In P.R.China, even the version of Official Moto SBFs are MLS2GC_U6_2.5.0_SIGNED or some above 2.2, actually, they are still Android 2.2.
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oh man, thats messed up. and just when i thought sony ericsson was bad with upgrading their software, they proved the world wrong. Motorola has to buck up if they wanna maintain a customer base outside of the US-Verizon market

agent008my said:
oh man, thats messed up. and just when i thought sony ericsson was bad with upgrading their software, they proved the world wrong. Motorola has to buck up if they wanna maintain a customer base outside of the US-Verizon market
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I agree fully with you. My prev. phone is a Sony-Ericsson one ( C702c ), and, they never fixed any bug in next three years after the phone release. Maybe Motorola will upgrade MS2 to Android 2.4 or some version later, but locking BootLoader is quite unwise, they should leave the choice to customer.
Sorry for my poor English.

waigx said:
I agree fully with you. My prev. phone is a Sony-Ericsson one ( C702c ), and, they never fixed any bug in next three years after the phone release. Maybe Motorola will upgrade MS2 to Android 2.4 or some version later, but locking BootLoader is quite unwise, they should leave the choice to customer.
Sorry for my poor English.
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my previous phone was an X1, and they only launched a ROM update with bug fixes and slightly better performance (still on WM6.1 though) a year after the phone was launched. sadly though back then, there wasnt much competition, nor were there many phones with a slide out QWERTY, and the X1 had the market dominance esp with its good looks and superior hardware. times changed though, and right now the MS2 is lagging behind its main competitor.
what i hear is the MS2's main competitor, the Desire Z is getting a 2.3 update within this quarter of the year. makes me kinda regret getting this. so what if the desire Z has a slower processor, at least they r updating its software diligently. hats off to HTC for that. Thing is upgrading to 2.3 is one thing, the least they can do is fix the known bugs.

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Thing is upgrading to 2.3 is one thing, the least they can do is fix the known bugs.
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QFT! I do not understand why the bug fixes have not been pushed out. The mods on the support forum have mentioned having newer firmware than retail, so I assume they have made some fixes, and there is this newer Italian firmware that has fixes too.
The worst part of it is being left in the dark.

agent008my said:
my previous phone was an X1, and they only launched a ROM update with bug fixes and slightly better performance (still on WM6.1 though) a year after the phone was launched. sadly though back then, there wasnt much competition, nor were there many phones with a slide out QWERTY, and the X1 had the market dominance esp with its good looks and superior hardware. times changed though, and right now the MS2 is lagging behind its main competitor.
what i hear is the MS2's main competitor, the Desire Z is getting a 2.3 update within this quarter of the year. makes me kinda regret getting this. so what if the desire Z has a slower processor, at least they r updating its software diligently. hats off to HTC for that. Thing is upgrading to 2.3 is one thing, the least they can do is fix the known bugs.
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Desire Z's processor is slower than Milestone 2, but Motorola just OVERCLOCKED OMAP3630, its design frequency is 720MHz, Motorola sales it as 1Ghz in MS2, and, motorola Droid 2 Global's CPU runs on 1.2Ghz for retail when OMAP3640's design freq. is 1Ghz. Besides, Adreno205(41M Polys/s & 245M Pix/s) in Desire Z is more powerful than SGX530 (14M Polys/s & ?M Pix/s), means Desire Z has a greater graphic performance.
At least, HTC never locks BootLoader.
Forget it, maybe my next device is not a motorola one, but I'm enjoying MS2 now.

waigx said:
Desire Z's processor is slower than Milestone 2, but Motorola just OVERCLOCKED OMAP3630, its design frequency is 720MHz, Motorola sales it as 1Ghz in MS2, and, motorola D2G's CPU runs on 1.2Ghz for retail when OMAP3640's design freq. is 1Ghz. Besides, Adreno205 in Desire Z is more powerful than SGX530, means Desire Z has a greater graphic performance than MS2.
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The OMAP3630 is designed for 1GHz. It's the OMAP 3620 that is designed for 720MHz.
The Adreno 205 is indeed more powerful according to benchmarks, but I think you should consider the detail that Motorolo's handsets use a higher resolution than most other devices (just by 54x480 pixels, but still).
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Not true. Recent HTC devices have the bootloader locked.
Old Android devices from HTC are also locked AFAIK, but not with such high encryption as used by Motorola...

The OMAP3630 is designed for 1GHz. It's the OMAP 3620 that is designed for 720MHz.
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I was really confused, I saw the data at wikipedia like this in early 2011:
Handset channels:
OMAP3640 - 1 GHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX530 GPU + 430 MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor)+IVA 2+ hardware accelerator
OMAP3630 - 720 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX530 GPU + 430 MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor)+IVA 2+ hardware accelerator
OMAP3620 - 720 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX530 GPU + 430 MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor)+IVA 2+ hardware accelerator
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You can also found it on Wikipedia history pages:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Texas_Instruments_OMAP&oldid=406270321
Actually, I learned this in most sites in Chinese said 3630 designed for 720Mhz at first. But current page of Texas Instruments OMAP on Wikipedia said 3630 designed for 1Ghz and 3640 designed for 1.2Ghz. And, http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMAP just described like wiki English before.
I can't found any frequency data on TI official site. Anyone have ideas on this?
The Adreno 205 is indeed more powerful according to benchmarks, but I think you should consider the detail that Motorolo's handsets use a higher resolution than most other devices (just by 54x480 pixels, but still).
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But the Adreno 205 is really powerful than SGX530, even consider the resolution issue.
Not true. Recent HTC devices have the bootloader locked.
Old Android devices from HTC are also locked AFAIK, but not with such high encryption as used by Motorola...
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Thanks for your notice, I don't know this before.

http://focus.ti.com/pr/docs/preldetail.tsp?sectionId=594&prelId=sc09020
waigx u have right ... ;-)

Linaro offers accelerated builds of Ice Cream Sandwich

you guys may find this interesting
Linaro, a not-for-profit engineering organization that works with open-source software for the ARM processor architecture, has announced downloadable builds of v4.0 of the Android operating system on development boards from Samsung and ST-Ericsson.
The accelerated graphics support made available today is based on Mali-400 graphics processor integrated with a dual-core Cortex-A9 in the Exynos 4210 SoC on the Samsung Origen board and in the Nova A9500 SoC on the ST-Ericsson Snowball board.
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http://www.linaro.org/downloads/

i believe those ICS builds are for theyre motherboards.
don't think those development boards are included in any market devices

myshu said:
i believe those ICS builds are for theyre motherboards.
don't think those development boards are included in any market devices
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The development teams behind the aosp ports of ics might find it helpful.

I'm quite confused, is this a test ROM or some sort? There is no feature/bug log which i'm sure I missed it somewhere. I can't find whether it's generic or for the Galaxy S2.

Just over a month ago, within a day of Google's release of the 4.0.1 ICS version of Android, Linaro showed videos of it running on the Texas Instruments (TI) PandaBoard and shortly after that on the Freescale i.MX53 Quick Start board, the Samsung Origen board and ST-Ericsson's Snowball board. The accelerated graphics support that has been made available today makes use of the ARM Mali-400 graphics processor used by two of these boards. This graphics processor is integrated with a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 processor: on the Samsung Origen board in Samsung's Exynos 4210 SoC, and on the ST-Ericsson Snowball board in ST-Ericsson's NovaTM A9500 SoC. Users of these boards can view videos of these latest builds on Linaro's YouTube channel and download the accelerated builds for the Snowball and Origen boards on Linaro's releases.linaro.org website.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whpaltVa3pQ&list=UUAl2MfCBjH5y0nIym0ujHfg&index=2&feature=plcp Samsung SGS 2 hardware running ICS. pretty cool.

This looks interesting. Would be cool to get a comment on this from cyanogenmod guys.
It's not a ROM for the phone but rather for a development board. Phones are built based on those boards.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/23/linaro-member-boards-get-accelerated-builds-of-android-ice-cream/
http://www.origenboard.org/

Hopefully this means samsung will roll out the ics update by early q1
Pray that this won't turn into one of those sgs gb update nightmares :/

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...e-and-now-parts-of-it-are-being-added-to-cm9/
this is AWESOME

hooligan007 said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...e-and-now-parts-of-it-are-being-added-to-cm9/
this is AWESOME
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Can't wait for that code!!! Damn, looks freaking awesome!!!
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You can look at the CM code review site to see when it gets accepted and merged. It's my understanding that IDs I1251b843 and I61348be6 need to be merged for us to see the improvements, but I could be wrong.

QUALCOMM release driver adreno for ARMv6

Qualcomm released their driver for ics armv6 devices
we may have hope for a fully-working ics!
link is:
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...no-2xx-gpu-binaries-for-on-ics-armv6-devices/

Adreno is their GPU line.
Won't help us out.

but its adreno 2xx and the wildfire fits in that catagory

The Wildfire has no GPU, ergo drivers for a GPU won't really help.

we can still dream

Sorry to say it owner but nejc is right, the drivers released are for a gpu, we wont get anything from this. The only thing we can dream of is software acceleration which will come from cm team most likely.......... eventually, when they've got it running smoothly for everyone else, we have a crappy phone now compared to most so we are at the bottom of a pile.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium

i know wildfire is slow
i know the wildfire is slow and crap compared to like the htc sensation,
but its been through alot of times good and bad, nobody thought the wildfire would be perm rooted but it did get rooted
i still have hope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I prefer not to dream, and see wonders come real when not expeced.

It would be a good sequel for Willy the wilderbeast....... but I can't see that chapter happening lol
MANCHESTER together UNITED forever

maybe wildfire has a hidden gpu

Is the information here incorrect?
https://developer.qualcomm.com/device/htc-wildfire-s
Manufacturer: HTC
Name: Wildfire S
Model: HTC Wildfire S
CPU: Qualcomm MSM7227
CPU Clock: 600 MHz
GPU: Adreno 200
Platform OS: Android
Operators: T-Mobile

Yes, it is incorrect. This is the HTC Wildfire section. Not the Wildfire S section. We lack a GPU. Unlike your device.

Nevermind. This thread is about the plain Wildfire. :|

Upcoming Windows Phone 8 Devices [sep/05]

Here is a list of the upcoming WP8 devices:
Zenith - HTC (high-end device)
Accord - HTC (mid-range device)
Rio -HTC (low-end)
Sources w/ specs: link & link.
Samsung Ativ S
Samsung Focus S2 - Samsung (high-end)
Samsung Marco
Samsung Odyssey
Source w/ specs: Link, Link.
Nokia Lumia 910
Nokia Lumia 805
Nokia Lumia 820 - Apparently this is the "Arrow".
Nokia Lumia 920 With PureView and wireless charging.
Nokia Lumia 950
Nokia Lumia 1001
Nokia 510
Nokia Belle 805
Nokia Zeal - mid-range
A couple of Lumia devices are codenamed "Arrow" and "Phi" for the time being. Expected to be announced in september 5th.
Source with more information: Link.
Juggernaut Aplha - Man. unkown
Info: Link.
- Release dates will be added when devices are announced (these are still just rumor), if you know of new ones please reply or pm me to update the list.
Bundle information: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/47021/windows-phone-8-phones-information
Update 1: Microsoft denies plans for company-branded smartphone. Also revealed that the companies who will be branding WP8 will be HTC, Nokia, Samsung, and Huawei. Source.

Good idea. But please include sources (for the ones you listed above: http://newbestgadget.com/news/htc-zenith-htc-rio-and-htc-accord-specs-and-features) espacially if it's still a rumor (don't whether htc officaly announced the ones you listed)

Probably, the HTC Leo (HD2)
Hope

Samsung Focus S(2)3

HTC HD7
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If the HTC Rio will run WP8, theres the possibility that all existing WP7 smartphones can also run wp8. Almost the same ****ing hardware specs(it only has 1ghz dualcore, but only 512 mb ram)! Is Microsoft ****ing kidding me?!
*srry for my bad language*

freddx said:
If the HTC Rio will run WP8, theres the possibility that all existing WP7 smartphones can also run wp8. Almost the same ****ing hardware specs(it only has 1ghz dualcore, but only 512 mb ram)! Is Microsoft ****ing kidding me?!
*srry for my bad language*
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Calm with your spaz attack, lol.

I'm waiting for the Nokia PureView with Windows Phone 8 on it which is due in Q4.

More Info Please
could you update the post with more info, im interested in the Zenith HTC

I'd be tempted by the Focus S2 if it's basically the Galaxy Note 2 with Windows Phone 8 on it. But a Nokia handset with Pureview and WP8 would be rapturous!

Ill say it again.. I WANT the Dell Wrigley with W8.. the prototype pics looked great and I love my DVP.. I will be happy with 7.8 on my DVP until another Portrait Keyboard style phone shows up.

HTC
rafa8595 said:
could you update the post with more info, im interested in the Zenith HTC
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As of this writing there is no definite HTC model yet. as usual HTC may rename the device during the launch. It could be HTC Zenith or HTC Edge whatever. It would definitely come with Quad-Core processor, Snapdragon by QualComm or the quad-core Tegra 3 by Nvidia. OMG! a 4.7" screen playing 4 video files simultaneously with 1.5 GHz speed in each.
Chipsets and gadgets companies are selling high-end products with just a very little functionality offered at the moment.

MS is definitely releasing own windows phone 8 hardware. I have confirmation from my source, that tells me it will be coming out in the fall, and it is similar size to iphone / Droid Inc.

Will be an offficial update for the HD2? Or nly through custom roms we wil run windows 8

I think that Nokia Belle 805 needs to be off the list, since Belle refers to a version of Symbian.

tukmol said:
OMG! a 4.7" screen playing 4 video files simultaneously with 1.5 GHz speed in each.
Chipsets and gadgets companies are selling high-end products with just a very little functionality offered at the moment.
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Just another spec packed mostrum but this time with wp7. Well, we'll see if a quad is useful. Up to now, I've not yet got the point...
UBNAS81 said:
MS is definitely releasing own windows phone 8 hardware. I have confirmation from my source, that tells me it will be coming out in the fall, and it is similar size to iphone / Droid Inc.
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I'm sure that you can point us to the source
ekvirus said:
Will be an offficial update for the HD2? Or nly through custom roms we wil run windows 8
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There will never be an official update for our beloved hd2. Even WP7 was (is!) inofficial. I'm pretty sure that our hd2 will get at least wp 7.8 and maybe wp 8 (but only when the other first gen receive wp8 custom roms as well)

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underworld666 said:
Probably, the HTC Leo (HD2)
Hope
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this is test

Testing your thanks meter now
just making sure your thanks meter works
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I have my phone nokia lumia 900 within 2 weeks returned to the store that could still because it was within 2 weeks.
Was very disappointed because he did not get to update WP8.
I could exchange it for a WP8 phone if they are in store

I heard and hope it is true 802.11ac will be on the new Windows 8 phones coming for the November sales season.

SOFTWARE UPDATE: HTC One will get OpenGL ES 3.0 support

SAN FRANCISCO: SMARTPHONE MAKER HTC said it will release a software update for its HTC One smartphone to enable support for OpenGL ES 3.0.
HTC will release its HTC One smartphone this week in the UK and it will be one of the first handsets to have a Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 quad-core system on chip (SoC) processor.
Have any of the ROM developers seen this as yet? Any examples?
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2257651/htc-one-will-get-opengl-es-30-support-video

awesome news mate, lets hope it improves the performance as well
ill post the link in the related thread thanks :good:

Interesting I like seeing HTC make commitments to improve the device, it fills me with confidence its not going to be another device forgotten and unsupported as soon as its demoted within the company
Anyone tried that game Qualcomm released to show off the power Snapdragon 600 http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...w-off-the-power-of-snapdragon-600-processors/

I look forward to seeing if there are any benchmark improvements. I am not sure if speed is the main benefit or just new effects/technology.
Real racing seems good on my One, what would the benefit of OpenGL ES 3.0 on that?

I strongly suspect existing benchmarks will be unaffected, let's hope I'm wrong. I guess we can expect better effects "for free".

BenPope said:
I strongly suspect existing benchmarks will be unaffected, let's hope I'm wrong. I guess we can expect better effects "for free".
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we have already discussed this in the related thread
and most conclusions came to be that upcoming drivers should improve GL results
in fact someone asked HTCdev over twitter and they responded they are working with qualcomm regarding GL performance
i see a very big chance you are wrong

hamdir said:
i see a very big chance you are wrong
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That's good news. Hopefully the current drivers are just crappy. I figured they would have been around a while though, long enough to have been reasonably well optimised. Always happy to be wrong.

BenPope said:
That's good news. Hopefully the current drivers are just crappy. I figured they would have been around a while though, long enough to have been reasonably well optimised. Always happy to be wrong.
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yes but HTC is still at 4.1.2
and the SGS4 with 4.2 is scoring a lot better on the same s600
so there a high chance they dont have the latest drivers
/var ‏@jomaKern 19 Mar
@htcdev Are you expected OpenGL performance to increase, with the latest Qualcomm drivers for Jelly Bean 4.2?
HTCdev ‏@htcdev 21 Mar
@jomaKern we are working with Qualcomm regarding OpenGL
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https://twitter.com/htcdev/status/314815543754510336

Oh of course, I forgot about that. Well, you know what? I can't wait to get my grubby mits on this phone!