would it be pos to port windows mobile to this phone
If yes, it would be illegal. But you can't, because WP 7 is closed-source and Wm 6 same.
since its closed source it would be very hard to do since you need the source codes to put something together and make it work and not to forget i think it would be illegal to even do something.
The best option would be getting a windows phone since there are already ports for android on it due to android being open source.
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hello to all
I want to run one application who is designed for symbian on my xdaII,I have sis (installer) and files extracted from sis (app,rsc,aif),but I need to know how to make conversion of application.decompile from symbian and recompile for pocketpc.also I want to know convert win32 applications to run on pocketpc.
any info is wellcome.
I dont know if this is any help.
http://symbian.compactbyte.com/
http://www.inf.u-szeged.hu/gcc-arm/
this is completely impossible
What a wish...
Like asking to run all Windows Apps on LINUX OS - without using an intermediary !!
rgs/DD
You will require the source code for each application and then rewrite everything to be compatible with the other operating system.
Very unlikely to happen. You may be able to use an emulator, eg for the Palm OS, but not generally symbian (eg p900) <> WinCE so far.
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Porting Win32 apps shouldn't be too difficult as scene as the WinCE API's and the Win32 API's are pretty much similar in most respects. However full access to the source code and a lot of spare time would be an essential. Porting apps from Symbian would be to say the least stupid, you may as well write the app yourself from scratch than try and port code written for a completely different architecture!
From what I've read it is possible to port Symbian type apps to Windows Mobile & vice versa. I would like to try porting the New Flashlite 3 to WM. Anyone have any links to resources that may help? The reason is that adobe has stated that it does not intend to port the new FL3 to the WM platform.
no it's not. you'll need to have the sources first. and then you'll need to restructre the whole sourcecode to match the api.
if you want youtube ... take flash 7 for ppc.
NVM... I see that I can possibly use some of the engine code but must completely rework the GUI...
BTW, flash 7 will NOT give you youtube, although YT has nothing to do with the ???
Thx.
I am writing from my pocket pc:
http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS2632317407.html
"Microsoft officially launched the sixth generation of its flagship device software "platform, today. "Windows Embedded CE 6.0" boasts kernel architecture enhancements, new software stacks targeting three high-volume device categories, enhanced development tools, and, for the first time, 100 percent availability of Windows CE's kernel source code. "
Doesn't this mean we can port to any device?
This is for links:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/community/community/communityprojects/
http://www.codeplex.com/
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A free 180-day evaluation version of Windows Embedded CE 6.0 is available for download, here. The kit includes the operating system, the standard shared source components described above, and Visual Studio 2005 Professional.
http://www.windowsembeddedkit.com/
sorry to burst your bubble, but CE6.0 is NOT WM6
WM6 is BASED on CE5.2
WM7 will be BASED on CE6.0
Neither will be creatable/editable using the CE shared source as windowsmobile is not shared source.
True hehe
forgot Windows Mobile 6.0 is based on CE 5.2
Was a quick read and post on my pocket pc
Apologies
Might still be useful,
If we can get Windows CE 6.0 to run on a device...
It may be possible to get Windows Mobile 6 to run using a CE 6 core?
Windows CE 6 should be backward compatible with Windows CE 5.2 (although new drivers will probably be needed)
Long shot, but just might work...
(isn't Windows Mobile just a pretty shell for Windows CE?)
Problems:
*Probably against the Microsoft license. (Donations? Maybe can even buy Windows CE 5.2 Tool Suite)
*Windows CE 6 Core needed for Windows Mobile might be significantly bigger than Windows CE 5.2 Core.
*Need to know everything Windows Mobile uses in Windows CE to build a working core.
*Device Drivers may have to be rewritten depending on how much Windows CE 6 differs form Windows CE 5.2 (Will be easier with source code)
*Getting it to work will require quite a bit of development and research
basically, it's not impossible, just highly unlikely.
hehe any volunteers
I know its crazy, but there are huge benefits in getting this to work.
(Far less limitations in what we can do)
I would investigate myself but it looks like I am about to be computerless for the next 4 weeks!
OK, I hate to burst your bubble even further, but I don't think it will be possible at all.
Why?
1) They are only publishing the Kernel, and there is a lot more to the OS than that.
2) Because of the different kernel architecture the drivers will defiantly need to be rewritten and for that they will have to be reverse engineered first. Just look a the state of various Linux projects to see how long and hard something like that would be.
3) M$ is notorious for making OSs that are not forward compatible - namely although the difference between WM 6 and 5 is almost non existent compiling a simple "Hello word" app with WM 6 SDK will prevent it from running on a WM 5 device (bad exe error).
Also, the fact that they are "releasing" the code does not make it open source. It will still require a ton of paper work to get and you will probably have to be a real company or at least an academic establishment to get it.
M$ already gives out a lot of code for previous embedded OSs under special license.
So by the time someone leaks the code, figures out a way to patch together new kernel and additional required components from previous OS, plus reverse engineers and rewrite drivers for a given device not only that device will become obsolete but the whole CE line.
My guess is, a few years from now phone size devices will be powerful enough to run a normal OS like UMPCs do today.
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1) They are only publishing the Kernel, and there is a lot more to the OS than that.
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I don't want to compile the whole of Windows Mobile 6, just the parts that don't allow it to be run on older devices (or newer) e.g. nk.exe
(I haven't downloaded the kit yet so I don't know if this is possible or not, could be, could not be)
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2) Because of the different kernel architecture the drivers will defiantly need to be rewritten and for that they will have to be reverse engineered first. Just look a the state of various Linux projects to see how long and hard something like that would be.
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Many Windows CE 4 (Windows Mobile 2003 SE) drivers are used on a Windows CE 5.2 (Windows Mobile 5) platform. So there is a slight chance they may work in Windows CE 6.
levenum said:
3) M$ is notorious for making OSs that are not forward compatible - namely although the difference between WM 6 and 5 is almost non existent compiling a simple "Hello word" app with WM 6 SDK will prevent it from running on a WM 5 device (bad exe error).
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An application written in a new operating system will not work in the old operating system.
but an application written in the old operating system usually works in the new operating system.
Otherwise microsoft would have many very unhappy customers.
Windows Mobile (non core parts) are basically old applications...
levenum said:
Also, the fact that they are "releasing" the code does not make it open source. It will still require a ton of paper work to get and you will probably have to be a real company or at least an academic establishment to get it.
M$ already gives out a lot of code for previous embedded OSs under special license.
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You can already download it
http://www.windowsembeddedkit.com/
levenum said:
So by the time someone leaks the code, figures out a way to patch together new kernel and additional required components from previous OS, plus reverse engineers and rewrite drivers for a given device not only that device will become obsolete but the whole CE line.
My guess is, a few years from now phone size devices will be powerful enough to run a normal OS like UMPCs do today.
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This thing runs WINDOWS VISTA
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_HTC_Shift.htm
Heres another one, running windows XP
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INT...AIONotebookComputers_UX_Series&Dept=computers
We will not know the true amount of work needed until someone tries.
And if it is not a lot of work it will make a few people quite happy.
Well...
Me, i can not see the point in a project like this... Why would you even want to re-do microsofts sh--t.
Use the manpower and resources for the UNI Linux project.. They are allmost done... Just a few glitches now...
I wanna get away from MS asap... but i like this HW...
Is it possible to boot another OS like..idk, ubuntu or windows without having to boot up android? Something like direct boot? Just like our PC's do. Is it possible?
Since this question seems to burn on your poor soul ...
NO ... at least NOT for as long as you don't...
- ...write a fitting boot loader for the intended OS to kick-start its kernel and boot-strap the OS.
- ...find a way to re-partition the internal phone storage (aka "NAND") to meet the demands of the OS.
- ...wrote drivers to support the hardware (USB, Camera, Sound, WiFi, et al)
It may be possible to somehow directly boot a made-for-the-X8 Linux, but then the idea is rather pointless anyway as you would also need to code up the required applications to actually use the device as a phone (in case you missed it, you're holding a phone in your hands, not a tablet computer).
Throw away your hopes to see Windows 8 running on the X8 ... the device is not suited to run that OS at all (EDIT: or are you going to port the required Secure Boot enabled UEFI Firmware to the X8?).
Your best shot would be (after some intense development work) to get Linux or Windows CE up and running.
bogdan_mihai554 said:
Is it possible to boot another OS like..idk, ubuntu or windows without having to boot up android? Something like direct boot? Just like our PC's do. Is it possible?
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Yes its possible you can run Windows 95 on X8 . Search on you tube for videos. After that search in Android development section/
But it will work partially
B.Jay said:
Since this question seems to burn on your poor soul ...
NO ... at least NOT for as long as you don't...
- ...write a fitting boot loader for the intended OS to kick-start its kernel and boot-strap the OS.
- ...find a way to re-partition the internal phone storage (aka "NAND") to meet the demands of the OS.
- ...wrote drivers to support the hardware (USB, Camera, Sound, WiFi, et al)
It may be possible to somehow directly boot a made-for-the-X8 Linux, but then the idea is rather pointless anyway as you would also need to code up the required applications to actually use the device as a phone (in case you missed it, you're holding a phone in your hands, not a tablet computer).
Throw away your hopes to see Windows 8 running on the X8 ... the device is not suited to run that OS at all (EDIT: or are you going to port the required Secure Boot enabled UEFI Firmware to the X8?).
Your best shot would be (after some intense development work) to get Linux or Windows CE up and running.
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Ok, you're right ) windows 8 and ubuntu and too complicated for X8 to handle, but Windows CE would be really nice
Also, i've found an really small linux(Slax) and it would be really cool if we can get it running on x8
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Windows CE would be really nice
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Many years ago (2002? 2003?) I had a COMPAQ iPAQ 3660 (which I even mod-updated from PocketPC 2000 to PocketPC 2002) - and a friend of mine had a 5xxx series iPAQ which where the first ones to come with a GSM slot.
Take my word that Windows CE would be pointless. Compared to Android Windows CE is not only hopelessly outdated but also the same crap as WP7.
If _I_ would want to have Windows CE/Windows Phone 7 device and be tortured to the ninth circle of hell by that steaming-pile-of-sh** Metro UI I would have gotten a brain removal surgery and bought one.
Having a true Linux up and running would be nice, but also pointless for as long as the apps to make calls and send/receive SMS/MMS are missing.
B.Jay said:
Many years ago (2002? 2003?) I had a COMPAQ iPAQ 3660 (which I even mod-updated from PocketPC 2000 to PocketPC 2002) - and a friend of mine had a 5xxx series iPAQ which where the first ones to come with a GSM slot.
Take my word that Windows CE would be pointless. Compared to Android Windows CE is not only hopelessly outdated but also the same crap as WP7.
If _I_ would want to have Windows CE/Windows Phone 7 device and be tortured to the ninth circle of hell by that steaming-pile-of-sh** Metro UI I would have gotten a brain removal surgery and bought one.
Having a true Linux up and running would be nice, but also pointless for as long as the apps to make calls and send/receive SMS/MMS are missing.
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Windows 8 has Metro UI...I hate it )
So, as I've been thinking about Intel's announcements about medfield atom powered android devices, and the pre-existing android x86 project. I've previously asked the question if you could load windows 7/8 onto an android x86 device, and the answer was, pretty much yes, as long as there are drivers. But running windows isn't that great of an option for a mobile device, so i dug around and saw WINE, which i had forgotten about. From what i've learned, it requires X11 library support on the OS for windows programs to run. Android does not support X11, which stops WINE from being able to run on android X86. Now, with android (and, apparently X) being open source, surely there's a way to build enough of it into android so that WINE can run? One of, say, the x86 android tablets intel and motorola agreed to make would be amazing if a custom ROM could be created to be able to have some support for X, and therefore run WINE.
Now, i'm no dev so i have no idea how difficult (or not) this would be, but it seems completely possible, and it also seems like a much preferable alternative to any metro-haters.
(and yes, i've seen this, i consider it worthless to run an emulator in an alternate OS on a phone. i'm looking for native support.)
Please, don't troll, flame, report, or anything else i know you all love to do. I just wondered if this actually is possible - seems like it should be - and what work would have to go into it to get it to work.
thanks to anyone who can help answer!
Hi, I recently bought a yogabook from ebay and I'm not happy with the performance/heat that windows 10 gives. I've tried chromeos which has better performance but more heat(probably due to incorrect drivers and the halo keyboard doesnt work). So my final option is android. Is it possible? If so could you point me to a link which says how to do it
If something hasn't changed since I became interested in the matter, it wasn't possible to install Windows on devices that were born with Android.
I'm talking about the other way around, installing Android on devices that were born with Windows
Nikolay1243D said:
I'm talking about the other way around, installing Android on devices that were born with Windows
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Yes you are right I didn't explain myself well. I meant that for what I understood at the time I was interested is that despite having similar hardware if not equal Lenovo has blocked the ability to switch between operating systems and that the hardware is a little too small to run well Windows.
has anyone tried downloading the source code off lenovos website and following the instructions in the readme files the come with it?