[Q] ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 vs ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=0 - Galaxy Tab 7.7 General

Forces your home launcher into memory:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 or ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=0
...someone may have a very short explanation ?
What means each one ?
Thanks

Hi
If you search taming the OOM killer on Google you will find a lot of information about this.. Linux as specific way to address low memory conditions and android I believe uses it with some more specific feature.. For what I understand the higher the value the more chances the process will be released from memory also depending for how long the app stayed in memory unused.... So having it to one I believe would make it release sooner than zero.. I believe you can go further bellow with negative value. Also have a look for minfreemanager on market and minfreemanager in general on Google.
The way android manages memory somehow puzzles me... It's probably very clever... But find it unnecessarily kills app sometimes...
People say ICS as a much better memory management than HC having also GT 8.9 with ICS rom it seems to be the case.. Less memory used overall less app unnecessarily killed for what I saw comparing to HC...
This is why..... I can't wait having ICS on the 7.7....
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I don't claim to understand the task cleaner completely and I agree it does seem to kill tasks sometimes when there isn't any need to free up memory, but here is some interesting investigation and a way to customize the memory thresholds at which it will decide to kill various types of tasks.

stefan.pilsu said:
Forces your home launcher into memory:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 or ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=0
...someone may have a very short explanation ?
What means each one ?
Thanks
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The sense of my question is:
Which of two "lines" we can use for better, smoother scrolling between homescreens .

=1 is supposed to keep the launcher in memory. But it doesn't help on my pad anyway. After exiting another application, the launcher is empty and has to redraw the icons, widgets etc.
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I would agree it is not to improve scrolling performance but attempt to try avoiding your launcher to be released from memory... A lower value tries to delay the memory manager to kill the launcher.
IMO this setting only does not help much..as I use it set to 0...Tweaking with minfreemanager does help a bit though but at some point getting back to your launcher you will see it refreshing icons/widget... ICS might be better in that respect...
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Potentially speed up our N1's in the near future?

Just read this article here:
http://androinica.com/2010/02/08/wa...ts-3xs-faster-myriad-wants-to-give-it-to-you/
Wonder what that's going to mean for us?
Exactly as described in the article: better performance and better battery life.
Sounds cool, hopefully they're working on integrating this.
Sounds good.
Currently, though, the N1 can sometimes be choppy because the homescreen uses processing power instead of the GPU. I'm hoping Google will get around to fixing that, because as it stands the GPU is utilized very little.
grainysand said:
Sounds good.
Currently, though, the N1 can sometimes be choppy because the homescreen uses processing power instead of the GPU. I'm hoping Google will get around to fixing that, because as it stands the GPU is utilized very little.
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Do you have a source for this information? It makes sense and I've been wondering why my homescreen lags a bit sometimes while my buddies Sprint Hero runs smooth.
Would be awesome if they found a way to fix it like you say
that would be AMAZING! Mostly for G1, MT3G... owners but i also wouldn t mind it on my N1!!!
Add a better keyboard and open up the RAM, to that new engine and we will have the ultimate phone!
I'm assuming that this 'turbo' dalvik uses some kind of just in time compilation to achieve it's speed increases.
As such, this is already available in android 2.*, but disabled currently as it's experimental.
noodles12 said:
Do you have a source for this information? It makes sense and I've been wondering why my homescreen lags a bit sometimes while my buddies Sprint Hero runs smooth.
Would be awesome if they found a way to fix it like you say
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'Fraid I don't--I remember having read it somewhere, likely on this forum. People've noted that some home replacement apps will run smoother than the stock launcher, however, as those apps make full use of the GPU.
I tried out home replacements for a while, didn't like any of them, and have since set my "window animation" under Settings -> Display to "Some animation." Homescreen no longer lags unless I'm using one of those questionably-optimized third-party live wallpapers.
grainysand said:
'Fraid I don't--I remember having read it somewhere, likely on this forum. People've noted that some home replacement apps will run smoother than the stock launcher, however, as those apps make full use of the GPU.
I tried out home replacements for a while, didn't like any of them, and have since set my "window animation" under Settings -> Display to "Some animation." Homescreen no longer lags unless I'm using one of those questionably-optimized third-party live wallpapers.
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reading this does remind me i have noticed something that I did find strange.
Using the stock launcher with only 3 pages of widgets and shortcuts, it shows I have about 230mb ram free in Taskpanel.
But when i use Home++, with the same layout, icons and widgets i get near the 270mb free ram mark.
I understand Task Panel may not be the most accurate or whatever but I've done this a few times and it must be something different.
Sorry for the off topic. Im starting to notice something with posts is all... using taskpanel i have never seen more than 80Mb RAM free. thats after killing all background tasks. How the hell are you showing 230Mb?
He is presumably using the highmem kernel.

GUIDE: Make your Hero faster (GSM+CDMA)

Hey, im pretty new to all of this, so pardon my "mess-ups"
First off, I want to make clear that i take no liability for what happens to your phone, but all of this is relatively safe, so don't worry.
It concerns all the people who are worrying about Hero "lag" (which is pretty much everyone) and of you want to make it faster, take a look at what I did.
Okay, enough with the talk. Lets get started.
Here's some prerequisites that you need to have to speed up your hero:
Advanced Task Killer (Free, Android Market)
Launcher Pro (Free, Android market, but paid version is better)
(Optional: ROOT: You can do this using super one click:
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...d-samsung-captivate-with-super-one-click-app/ )
For optional, root your phone before proceeding.
The main key to Hero lag (in my opinion) is HTC sense. If you install launcher pro from android market, you remove sense, but get a nice, simple launcher from android market. Play with it by going into preferences. I currently have five screens, 3D app drawer, and a a 5 and 7 app drawer speed. Its REALLY fast. With the paid version, you can get app resizing, and more widgets. Thats about it. oh, and did i mention you get a LANDSCAPE HOME SCREEN?!?! (girly shrieks)
As for the Advanced Task Killer, download it, and put the widget on your homescreen, and click it everytime your phone lags.
If you have rooted your phone, install terminal emulator, and follow this guide (http://jaxov.com/2010/09/how-to-remove-stock-default-android-apps-easily/), and remove all stock apps that you never use.
If you have any extra tips, feel free to comment below.
(P.S), if you have any way to get of the keyboard lag while texting, please comment, because even with no vibrate/sound it sometimes lags)
(P.P.S) This method works on any ROM. Use it with CM6 for ultimate awesomeness.
Don't use a task killer, use Autokiller instead. Not a task killer, but does allow you to kill problematic apps if need be (2.2 allows you to do this as well).
If you are unrooted and use lp or adw, sense is not removed. If you go that route, remove all widgets an icons from your sense screens. Also, no task killer. They cause more problems than what they're worth. Use the running apps to close anything.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo on Hero action here!
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user7618 said:
If you are unrooted and use lp or adw, sense is not removed. If you go that route, remove all widgets an icons from your sense screens. Also, no task killer. They cause more problems than what they're worth. Use the running apps to close anything.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo on Hero action here!
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Yeah, they don't remove the Sense framework, just the launcher. If you're going to stay unrooted, it definitely helps.
The most sure-fire way to speed up the phone is to root and run a custom ROM. Any custom ROM will be faster than a stock release thanks to the developer's tweaks. If you want to stay closer to stock, look into nfinitefx45's ROMs.
Agreed with others, don't use a task killer. Only use the root-only "AutoKiller".
Question: what do you mean by "use running apps to close anything". Sorry im sorta noobish at this, but what problems DO task killers cause? Because i haven't had any.
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they can close things that don't need to be closed. Also, they constantly run in the background, taking up ram and precious cpu cycles (which we don't have a lot to spare... lol). Using auto killer, you can change your ram free settings, and let android kill what isn't needed to free up ram. I run it at optimum on cm6... it's the lowest I could run and keep everything very snappy, and any higher and apps close as soon as I exit them, killing my multi tasking. (i.e., I can exit my browser, send a text, and when I go back to browser it doesn't have to reload the page)
App Killers have their uses; but...
bholoo said:
Question: what do you mean by "use running apps to close anything". Sorry im sorta noobish at this, but what problems DO task killers cause? Because i haven't had any.
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As I understand it, Android manages its processes differently than many people are used to thinking about. More free memory isn't necessarily a good thing in Android. So when you kill all Apps, you're throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Sure, you might get that one misbehaving app, but there are all kinds of well-behaving app casualties. Mostly you should use a task manager to view stats on resource usage to identify bad apps and then get rid of them.
(sorry, no url link for n00bs) lifehacker.com/5650894/android-task-killers-explained-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Also, yes Sense is much slower than cm6 and I haven't even been tempted to go back.
OHHH! yea thats why android 1.5 always crashed when killing tasks. Thanks. So whats a better way to free up memory? Oh, and does anyone have a way of launcher pro actually working with Cm6? Because it seems to sorta do the animations and tasks in a "play by play" sort of way. Thats why i reverted back to stock rom. Sorry about all the questions, im still pretty new to the whole android thing.
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[Q] To those with Virtuous Unity check your ram usage

Hey guys I was just wondering what your ram usage for the Virtuous Unity was, so post a screenshot or just list the info
I usually had atleast 300mb free with stuff running when I was still running CM7.1. Did I flash my rom wrong? or is this normal?
what I did.
1) Flashed with rom manager
2) Boot to recovery manager
3) Delete old files in recovery manager
4) Install Virtuous Unity from Zip
5) Installed the rom cleaner
6) Reboot
Is it just me or does this rom demand a lot of ram? I feel this really affects my battery life in the long run. Cheers
Hey bro we have the same RAM usage an I'm using the virtuous doubleshot ROM
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The Sense UI is big and will use more RAM than CyanogenMod. But remember, unused RAM is wasted RAM! Seriously though, modern Android does a pretty good job of freeing up RAM from background process as needed to accommodate the active app.
Yes, as said before me, this is perfectly normal. As long as your average is above 100MB free - you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
unhappybirthday said:
The Sense UI is big and will use more RAM than CyanogenMod. But remember, unused RAM is wasted RAM! Seriously though, modern Android does a pretty good job of freeing up RAM from background process as needed to accommodate the active app.
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Really. so do you run around swimming in all the pools you see?
an empty pool is a wasted pool! !
Sense is a RAM HOG has stated. But some of us like the slim down to business size of CyanogenMod. There is nothing you can do with Sense that we can do with AOSP.
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Really. so do you run around swimming in all the pools you see?
an empty pool is a wasted pool! !
Sense is a RAM HOG has stated. But some of us like the slim down to business size of CyanogenMod. There is nothing you can do with Sense that we can do with AOSP.
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really? This is becoming a flame war?
But, since you asked... speed dial without a separate app.
bittermormon said:
really? This is becoming a flame war?
But, since you asked... speed dial without a separate app.
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I'm not turning it into a flame war.
But since you asked.
From my home screen
slide one to the right and tap on my wife's icon
Wait for her to pick up
If you like Sense ROMs that's fine by me. Heck i used VU for weeks. There is nothing wrong with them. But there isn't a major draw to them over AOSP ROMs. If Team Douche over @ Cyanogen could get a camera that matched the Stock Sense in quality i'd never leave. But with a 2yr old i need a good camera / cam-corder.
I never asked.
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Really. so do you run around swimming in all the pools you see?
an empty pool is a wasted pool! !
Sense is a RAM HOG has stated. But some of us like the slim down to business size of CyanogenMod. There is nothing you can do with Sense that we can do with AOSP.
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LOL. I've only recently started flashing ROMS and I'm sure I'll be giving other flavors (CM7, MIUI) a try too. The variety and choice is part of the beauty of Android.
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I'm not turning it into a flame war.
But since you asked.
From my home screen
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slide one to the right and tap on my wife's icon
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Wait for her to pick up
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If you like Sense ROMs that's fine by me. Heck i used VU for weeks. There is nothing wrong with them. But there isn't a major draw to them over AOSP ROMs. If Team Douche over @ Cyanogen could get a camera that matched the Stock Sense in quality i'd never leave. But with a 2yr old i need a good camera / cam-corder.
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He meant - speed dial in dialer, not on the home screen. And T9 contact recognition in dialer. And even when using another app on AOSP - you're stuck with either the ugliness that DialerOne makes, calling stock phone app to clear the notification, or without the ability to clear missed calls notification by tapping on it.
Also - camera, as you mentioned.
Also - proper Exchange support and proper mail application.
Also - proper copy-paste capabilities way before AOSP got them, and Sense browser is still much better in this department - stock Gingerbread sometimes misses the cursors position. Sense doesn't.
Also - ability for proper cursor positioning without trackpad (zooming glass).
Also - quick toggles panel.
And the most important thing - all that without making a single change in the system, without downloading and paying for anything.
There are plenty of things that Sense does right compared to AOSP, at the price of using more memory. Moreover, Sense pre-caches apps to memory, unlike AOSP (which stopped doing that in Gingerbread). Since this phone has memory to spare, and running 100MB or 300MB free memory doesn't make any difference besides the psychological effect of seeing the number - Sense or no Sense becomes a matter of personal preference.
263 mb left
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So, the high ram usage doesn't eat up my phone battery faster?
Noobsterz said:
So, the high ram usage doesn't eat up my phone battery faster?
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most of your ram is being used by background processes. that doesnt eat up your battery, but what does is high cpu usage.
on a side note i prefer sense as its functionality is greater than other roms ive tried, both on my mt4g and xt720. to each his own tho
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He meant - speed dial in dialer, not on the home screen. And T9 contact recognition in dialer. And even when using another app on AOSP - you're stuck with either the ugliness that DialerOne makes, calling stock phone app to clear the notification, or without the ability to clear missed calls notification by tapping on it.
Also - camera, as you mentioned.
Also - proper Exchange support and proper mail application.
Also - proper copy-paste capabilities way before AOSP got them, and Sense browser is still much better in this department - stock Gingerbread sometimes misses the cursors position. Sense doesn't.
Also - ability for proper cursor positioning without trackpad (zooming glass).
Also - quick toggles panel.
And the most important thing - all that without making a single change in the system, without downloading and paying for anything.
There are plenty of things that Sense does right compared to AOSP, at the price of using more memory. Moreover, Sense pre-caches apps to memory, unlike AOSP (which stopped doing that in Gingerbread). Since this phone has memory to spare, and running 100MB or 300MB free memory doesn't make any difference besides the psychological effect of seeing the number - Sense or no Sense becomes a matter of personal preference.
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+1. Couldn't have summarized it better.
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It's awful... I never have more than 100MB of free RAM space. And there doesn't seem to be any app that show who's eating up all of that.
System Panel Lite will show you everything.
And I see you didn't read this thread, otherwise you wouldn't be writing what you wrote. As long as you don't get below 40MB free RAM - you're fine.
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System Panel Lite will show you everything.
And I see you didn't read this thread, otherwise you wouldn't be writing what you wrote. As long as you don't get below 40MB free RAM - you're fine.
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No, I read it
But that is an excellent app, thank you for telling me about it.

A lot of Lag

I got this phone yesterday and I must say it looks gorgeous. I set It up adding my emails, widgets etc and then experienced a lot of lag while scrolling on the social hub widget, even the Internet browser takes ages to load and struggles while scrolling.
I'm really unhappy now as my gs2 didn't face such an issue and i was expecting this to be smoother considering it has a faster processor.
I don't want to root this phone for security reasons.
Is anyone experiencing this issue and is there a solution?
Any info would be helpful.
Thank you.
viniturb0 said:
I got this phone yesterday and I must say it looks gorgeous. I set It up adding my emails, widgets etc and then experienced a lot of lag while scrolling on the social hub widget, even the Internet browser takes ages to load and struggles while scrolling.
I'm really unhappy now as my gs2 didn't face such an issue and i was expecting this to be smoother considering it has a faster processor.
I don't want to root this phone for security reasons.
Is anyone experiencing this issue and is there a solution?
Any info would be helpful.
Thank you.
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I notice the lag as well. Opening and closing apps that normally just pop.
I have noticed no lag whatsoever. Im using ADW Ex too
vinokirk said:
I have noticed no lag whatsoever. Im using ADW Ex too
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I am also using ADW Ex and am experiencing some lag when switching between screens etc.
andyiacovou said:
I am also using ADW Ex and am experiencing some lag when switching between screens etc.
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What widgets are you using?
I have about 15 icons, weather widget and digital clock wiget on one screen and nothing on any of the other screens.
Hmmm that might be the problem. I'm using widgets on every screen. I've gone a bit widget bonkers! Having said that I had the same widgets on the Galaxy S2 and didn't suffer lag issues.
I have rooted and am waiting for some decent ROMS to appear, I'm sure that will fix???
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Hi friends.
I also notice lag and Im using the stock launcher and with almost no widgets.
Apart from the screen issues that one will notice if he uses the devise for reading.
I had the SGS2 before and the difference is noticable.
Such a pitty for such a promising devise.
I changed screen density and only use one screen with go launcher set to have 7x7 grid size. I have 2 widgets, Weather and BBC News, I use upward swipe to open app drawer and not noticed lag at all when in use but I do get around a 1/2 to 1 second delay when pressing power or home to wake the device. Not the end of the world but would be cool if it was instant like the S2.
lumbard said:
I changed screen density and only use one screen with go launcher set to have 7x7 grid size. I have 2 widgets, Weather and BBC News, I use upward swipe to open app drawer and not noticed lag at all when in use but I do get around a 1/2 to 1 second delay when pressing power or home to wake the device. Not the end of the world but would be cool if it was instant like the S2.
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It's the same on my Samsung Galaxy S2 and it's never changed so I wouldn't worry about it.
There were some threads on the SGS2 forum about ideas on how to fix it if I remember rightly.
I love my note but i would have to agree that SG2 is faster compare to note . ( that make ppl feel like the note is laggy as they have used SG2 before )
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thank God the device is super fast....there is no lag at all.....just hard-reset the device and enjoy it
Launcher Pro is much smoother on my Note than ADW...
ADW EX is lightning fast with density hack at 240, all the others lagged.
Obviously mine is rooted. Also using Roboto font.
I have lag
I am comparing when zooming out all the home screens and then selecting one. The animation is faster and smoother on a HTC 4G. ALSO, sometimes when waking the phone the screen will flash the unlocked screen for a second before the lock screen appears ie see your messages app then you see the lockscreen and have to unlock the phone. I just reset the phone thinking this would help but it didn't. Coming from the iphone I am sad that everything isn't backs up like the iphone without rooting. This lag is more picky than a problem. I don't understated lag when the phone is so powerful.
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I am comparing when zooming out all the home screens and then selecting one. The animation is faster and smoother on a HTC 4G. ALSO, sometimes when waking the phone the screen will flash the unlocked screen for a second before the lock screen appears ie see your messages app then you see the lockscreen and have to unlock the phone. I just reset the phone thinking this would help but it didn't. Coming from the iphone I am sad that everything isn't backs up like the iphone without rooting. This lag is more picky than a problem. I don't understated lag when the phone is so powerful.
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Yeah I agree, I don't understand the lag with such a powerful device. I suppose it is possible that Samsung has used cheaper, slower dram in this phone. Even the Plus animation when the phone boots micro-stutters. Of well, hopefully in a month we can get our hands on the Nexus.
chris Ga said:
I am comparing when zooming out all the home screens and then selecting one. The animation is faster and smoother on a HTC 4G. ALSO, sometimes when waking the phone the screen will flash the unlocked screen for a second before the lock screen appears ie see your messages app then you see the lockscreen and have to unlock the phone. I just reset the phone thinking this would help but it didn't. Coming from the iphone I am sad that everything isn't backs up like the iphone without rooting. This lag is more picky than a problem. I don't understated lag when the phone is so powerful.
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That's the nature of Android, because so many manufacturers can use it, developers need to program apps for all of them in mind and seeing they all have the potential to utilise different hardware you can't expect a developer to be able to foresee these things.
What we need to do is just put a request to the developers and ask if they can make it compatible with the Notes graphics card/drivers making it lag free.
This is exactly why virtually all native Samsung apps run fantastic, because their devs know the hardware and drivers hence know how to get full potential.
What would fix this is every time Google releases a version like ICS they should state exactly which hardware will be ALLOWED to run on this platform. But then you lose the openness.
It's a double edged sword, you have to take the good with the bad..
This is unfortunately where apple shines with the iphone because they make the OS and the device. If they just loosened up on their OS a little then we wouldn't be talking here
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The Note will ONLY get better with each update/support from either Samsung or our beloved developers.. And that's a one way direction.. O)nly better..
Guys the reason for the lag is the constant downclocking of the cpu to 800 or 500mhz as well as unnecessary services apps running in the background. I believe it can be optimised..
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qazzi76 said:
Guys the reason for the lag is the constant downclocking of the cpu to 800 or 500mhz as well as unnecessary services apps running in the background. I believe it can be optimised..
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Not really, mines rooted and have uninstalled all uneeded apps. Although adw doesn't lag anymore, other apps do like Facebook and even ES file explorer.
There is a dedicated gpu which isnt utilised for most of the apps which lag, this is the problem at hand.
The iphones been running a sub 1ghz cpu and less than 1gb of ram for long before android adopted them, but doesnt share the same issues.
But as stated it can only get better from here.
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Not really, mines rooted and have uninstalled all uneeded apps. Although adw doesn't lag anymore, other apps do like Facebook and even ES file explorer.
There is a dedicated gpu which isnt utilised for most of the apps which lag, this is the problem at hand.
The iphones been running a sub 1ghz cpu and less than 1gb of ram for long before android adopted them, but doesnt share the same issues.
But as stated it can only get better from here.
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Agreed in some respects...
Have you installed AnTuTu CPU master?
I have noticed that when the CPU is operating at 800mhz everything lags.
When I force the CPU to 1400mhz using AnTuTu the lag is present for the first homescreen swipe in ADW EX (DPI 260) then it's smooth as butter.
I have also observed this behaviour in launcher pro.
A guy on here recommended using BetterBatteryStats to possibly locate the apps/background services that are unnecessary hogging the CPU.
Fully agreed on the Iphone performance - but that is clearly due to software strictly tailored for hardware.
Android requires brute force due to software required to work on multiple devices
Gotta say tho my Galaxy Tab 7 (First Gen) with overcome is way faster in general operation than the Note... Until I force the processor to stay at 1400mhz - then it just flies.
Clearly the Note has a lot of potential.

Nova Launcher VS. Touchwiz : Not what you expect!

I fell in love with the performance, features and active development of the Nova Launcher. That led me to buy the Prime version. I was happy with it until I installed it on the Galaxy S7. It is well optimized with 'near google stock' ROMs, AOSP based ROMs and as well as with most of the themed ROMs by OEMs but not in the new TOUCHWIZ.
It is consuming a hefty amount of memory (RAM) even relative to Touchwiz Home Launcher. You'll be surprised to see the results from the attached images. The reason being the 'accessibility' permission required for 'gestures' feature in Nova. If it is enabled it consumes what you are seeing in those images.
and yeah! this affects RAM Management in Galaxy S7 even though not much in battery life. This frustrates me to see a Launcher sold for it's efficiency and features doesn't live up to its mark. But you may say "Can't blame the dev for this and this is the problem with TouchWiz". Well not, it's problem with the Nova itself since I also ran Apex Launcher(accessibility enabled) after uninstalling Nova and the results speaks for themselves.
Galaxy S7 being one of the highest sold device of this year. It's a responsibility of the developer to optimize for it. Hope he does it soon.
Don't forget to vote in the poll
Interesting I guess. Maybe I'll try Apex, that use to be my go to launcher years ago.
Hasn't been any updates to it in.the last year though!
Your having problem with 180mb on a 4Gig ram device? What ever you say man.
I'm on Nova, no complains.
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S7 Touchwiz allows to hide icons ?? that's the main reason for me to use Nova
Using a marginally small amount of RAM out of 4GB is not something to worry about. I don't know why everyone is so concerned about apps using RAM, and clearing recent since both of those come from the same thought process. I never clear my apps, RAM, and I have 0 issues.
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Your having problem with 180mb on a 4Gig ram device? What ever you say man.
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Pilz said:
Using a marginally small amount of RAM out of 4GB is not something to worry about. I don't know why everyone is so concerned about apps using RAM, and clearing recent since both of those come from the same thought process. I never clear my apps, RAM, and I have 0 issues.
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Neither I do. I don't have any problem with apps taking ~200MB RAM as long as I'm happy with the performance of the device. Even there are few apps in my device including Twitter, Facebook etc which does it. But those all serve different purposes. For an app, as simple like Nova which is even said to be "performance driven" this is not expected.
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Neither I do. I don't have any problem with apps taking ~200MB RAM as long as I'm happy with the performance of the device. Even there are few apps in my device including Twitter, Facebook etc which does it. But those all serve different purposes. For an app, as simple like Nova which is even said to be "performance driven" this is not expected.
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Funny your basing an app as "performance driven" by the amount of ram its consuming. So it means your good with the app but the phone since it is performing not to your satisfaction.
Performance as defined by the internet "is what is required to be performed in fulfillment of a contract, promise, or obligation".
Nova defined their product as "Nova Launcher replaces your home screen with one you control and can customize. Change icons, layouts, animations and more."
No statement in the app store says "will use smaller ram than your built in skin".
I am satisfied with it as you can see that the ram it uses in my phone typically is around 20 - 60 mb.
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Neither I do. I don't have any problem with apps taking ~200MB RAM as long as I'm happy with the performance of the device. Even there are few apps in my device including Twitter, Facebook etc which does it. But those all serve different purposes. For an app, as simple like Nova which is even said to be "performance driven" this is not expected.
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Twitter, Facebook, and other social media apps are horrible for your battery, and performance. Nova is completely different, and actually does something useful. I dont know where the confusion about bad performance is coming from because I've never seen it using Nova.
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krusty_dc said:
Funny your basing an app as "performance driven" by the amount of ram its consuming. So it means your good with the app but the phone since it is performing not to your satisfaction.
Performance as defined by the internet "is what is required to be performed in fulfillment of a contract, promise, or obligation".
Nova defined their product as "Nova Launcher replaces your home screen with one you control and can customize. Change icons, layouts, animations and more."
No statement in the app store says "will use smaller ram than your built in skin".
I am satisfied with it as you can see that the ram it uses in my phone typically is around 20 - 60 mb.
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That's a good way to phrase it; too many people misinterpret things with out actually checking to see if their assumptions are correct. Nova is a great launcher, and I've used it since the days of my SIII.
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Twitter, Facebook, and other social media apps are horrible for your battery, and performance. Nova is completely different, and actually does something useful. I dont know where the confusion about bad performance is coming from because I've never seen it using Nova.
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That's a good way to phrase it; too many people misinterpret things with out actually checking to see if their assumptions are correct. Nova is a great launcher, and I've used it since the days of my SIII.
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Dude we are using Nova almost at the same length of time. I have been using it for my Htc One X before.
I used Nova for two Galaxys, S6 and now S7 flat. Never had any issues with ram and battery life with nova. Never even stuttered since Ive used it for my s6.
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Dude we are using Nova almost at the same length of time. I have been using it for my Htc One X before.
I used Nova for two Galaxys, S6 and now S7 flat. Never had any issues with ram and battery life with nova. Never even stuttered since Ive used it for my s6.
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I do get the occasional crash on my Nexus mainly due to using some features with root; other than that I've never had any real issues. I own Apex, Action launcher, and some others, yet I still prefer Nova hands down for the customizability and support.
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I do get the occasional crash on my Nexus mainly due to using some features with root; other than that I've never had any real issues. I own Apex, Action launcher, and some others, yet I still prefer Nova hands down for the customizability and support.
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Nova for me is the clear balance of minimalism, features and speed. Also OP you can use root instead of accessibility. It's in gesture settings.
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hackarchive said:
Nova for me is the clear balance of minimalism, features and speed. Also OP you can use root instead of accessibility. It's in gesture settings.
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My Nexus does use less RAM with Nova likely due to root permissions like you said. Here is a screenshot of it below. Nova just provides a nice consistent experience that is smooth yet useful too.
Any questions? ^^ and yes i use gestures, too
I've been on Nova Prime for quite a damn long time but switched to LightningLauncher some months ago and will never go back.
Only a few hundred kilobytes big but customization options beyond belief. I have "Keep in Memory" active so avg. RAM usage is ~150mb.
I used Apex for years but switched to Nova a few days ago and the difference in RAM usage is negligible. Apex never used as little as 26 MB on my phone (nor on my old S4).
maybe on a galaxy ace that`s a problem but in S7 ? Lol.
Nova its just horrible on design, RAM and battery.
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nova is one of the worst launchers
with is why i stick to the normal stock launcher. I got sick of them even on my other phones.
The big thing that turns me off is all the crap they keep adding to the program and then add paid feats and this and that
Studio1b said:
nova is one of the worst launchers
with is why i stick to the normal stock launcher. I got sick of them even on my other phones.
The big thing that turns me off is all the crap they keep adding to the program and then add paid feats and this and that
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Oh no, a developer trying to make money from his hard work! No way! /s

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