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Just installed it.....LOVE IT! I am such a huge Sense fan, but this Expresso sense is too bloated....LauncherPro beta makes it all better again! I miss some of the Sense widgets, but this is fast and clean and fairly robust. I can't wait to see more!
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I CONCUR !!!!!!!!

Sooooo, by installing a new launcher, isn't all the bloated software still sitting on your internal memory somewhere? I find the stock Sense system to still be quick, I just don't like how much internal memory it eats up...

Yea all the stock stuff remains theyre just running on a different home, I really dont see how it "speeds" up the phone as Im sure sense is still running in the background.

The slide's htc sense launcher is incredibly fast and responsive, I see no need in replacing it but to each his own I guess.
Im coming from the original mytouch so my view may be skewed. With all 7 home screens filled up with htc widgets and other widgets and apps I receive no lag whatsoever and have about 220m free. After I kill tasks I have about 305m. On the mytouch with 5 screens filled I always had somewhere between 20-30m free. So this phone is a godsend to me, speed-wise. :]

jonstanley2 said:
...After I kill tasks...
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OOOOoooohhhhh dear...
Also, 220m free? I think thats the highest I've seen... Even after a wipe, I have MAYBE 140m free.

I have seen about 220 free after a restart with no widgets loaded up aside from Status Widget. I love Sense, just not the TMo crap that's added to it.

I like sense, and the widgets that come with it....
But I hate the stupid Espresso icons, and the MyFaves icon locked on the bottom next to the app drawer. Because of those two things alone, I installed ADW.launcher. The MyFaves icon being the major reason though, I can deal with the silly looking icons.
Before switching to ADW, I removed all widgets from my sense homescreen, along with all the icons. I wanted to make sure it wasn't taking up any more resources in the background then needed. I also went into apps, and cleared the data for HTC sense.

i really want adw with the sense widgets support
any homescreen replacement like that who does such?

lagginess

anyone else notice that once you install your apps, get things situated how you like, the app drawer gets all laggy. It is really bad when you scroll down, and it jerks around and skips entire pages of apps.
also, when going from my car dock to normal use, it takes about 1-2 minutes for my phone to be used. the screen just shows wallpaper, but doesn't respond. Kind of annoying. I've experienced this in all 3 battery settings, performance, smart, and battery saver.
Anyone have some tips to help speed this puppy up a little with these issues?

That's weird for sure. I've never had it happen nor have i heard of it happening....
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BS!
pauliewalnutted said:
That's weird for sure. I've never had it happen nor have i heard of it happening....
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I never have the screen go blank or unresponsive, do you use a task killer? I've had to stop using one all the way around on this phone. Maybe just every once in a while to kill the web or something i just don't want running. I do notice that the software is buggy a bit on here and i really hope that is fixed with froyo.
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ksizzle9 said:
I never have the screen go blank or unresponsive, do you use a task killer? I've had to stop using one all the way around on this phone. Maybe just every once in a while to kill the web or something i just don't want running. I do notice that the software is buggy a bit on here and i really hope that is fixed with froyo.
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I don't use any task killer. I use Tasker, but i had this problem before I started using it.

So while trying to type this post for the first time my screen locked up and the phone went completely unrezponsive, pissed off by this i called moto, they told me that almost all software bugs will b fixed by the up and coming OTA, he said sometime this week. Now. I know from experience that these guys tell u what u want to hear but i hope this is froyo. Im pissed by the fact that the original droid is getting it before us. If its on the droid 2 then it has to be ready. WhT is the ****ing delay motorola? Seeing as how i dumped my dinc for this phone i hope that this is not a mistake. As for lagginess i use launcher pro and that takes care of almost all of it. I would say give it a try. It even makes my lockscreen lag that EVERYONE seems to have go away. Good luck.
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Use launcher pro, hide unused apps
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i like launcher pro, but I like the motorola widgets. I've had 3 android phones with launcher pro... kinda wanted something different. The only thing I dislike about blur is the home screen thing at the bottom, and the fact that it's laggy everytime i take it out of my car mount. I doubt a different launcher would remedy this, but I will try it.
Also, how would this save on memory when all the blur crap has to stay in memory? should I disable all the widgets in the motorola launcher, and then use launcher pro, or does it matter if I'm not using those screens. I don't want to get rid of the setup i have in the default launcher.

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i like launcher pro, but I like the motorola widgets. I've had 3 android phones with launcher pro... kinda wanted something different. The only thing I dislike about blur is the home screen thing at the bottom, and the fact that it's laggy everytime i take it out of my car mount. I doubt a different launcher would remedy this, but I will try it.
Also, how would this save on memory when all the blur crap has to stay in memory? should I disable all the widgets in the motorola launcher, and then use launcher pro, or does it matter if I'm not using those screens. I don't want to get rid of the setup i have in the default launcher.
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root and use minfreemanager or autokiller, i have both installed and have greatly improved memory management, i also switched to adw, better than launcher pro n you can now use themes

thats just the way the phone is dude, it happens to me all the time
the screen takes 1-2 seconds to load up the widgets sometimes and the shortcuts
when you open the app drawer, sometimes it takes 1-2 seconds for them all to cache
also, i had to reduce to about 3 total widgets because they would just bog down the X so much that smooth scrolling was nearly impossible
unfortunately, the device is just not as snappy int he menu system as the incredible. just have to live with it i guess, maybe i will look into the samsung
i was going to return the device, and I still may, but im waiting for 2.2

I would recommend staying with ur x. As crazy as this sounds the more i use it the less lagginess it gets. The only place i do get lag is the homescreen type stuff, the other operations such as opening apps and playing games this phones is absolutely amazing at. NFS for example, it will not even run thy game and my x does it without a hiccup. So bare with it. It will repay u
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My thoughts on the Cyanogen Mod Rom VS Virtuous Rom

Cyanogen mod Rom:
Pro:
-fast in terms of browsing through the menus and such (IE not lagging AT ALL when I scroll down hundreds of .apk files I have on my SD card)
-barebone ROM ready for customization (void of many apps the stock ROM and Virtuous ROM comes with)
Cons:
-lack of installed programs (had to install Android Market separately for goodness sakes)
-lack of flashiness (not as sexy as Sense Rom)
-much slower bootup time
Virtuous
Pro:
-sexier interface (HTC Sense)
-faster shutdown and bootup time (3 seconds and 2 seconds respectively)
-a lot more apps preinstalled
Cons:
-a bit sluggish when browsing through apps and such (IE trying to scroll through 100+ apps on your SD card)
There you have it folks. The completely subjective guide to these two ROMS.
This should be a good starter for Android noobs like I was two weeks ago when I first got the phone.
These two ROMS have little tweaks and mods that the stock ROM does not have that honestly go over my head but is suppose to give performance enhancements and streamline various processes.
Reason people use CM is because it is like the Google Chrome of internet browers; it is lightning fast.
Reason people use Virtuous is because it is more user friendly. You don't have to spend so much time researching where to download GAPPS and flash it with ROM manager like you would if you use CM.
I personally used the Virtuous ROM when I first started out, and I just moved to the CM ROM today once I got the hang of things.
Stock CM homescreen was kind of dull and unappealing so I downloaded Launcher Pro and downloaded customized docks for it, and now it looks pretty damn sexy.
That's just my two cents on these things.

I have CM RC3 w/ launcher pro. I find that at times when going back to my homescreen the widgets lag about a second or two behind. When I used sence on the device it would lag a lot. I would pull down the status bar and I had to wait for it to pull down, that's why I made the jump to CM. I really enjoy CM and have cut back on the widgets to prevent a lag.
Edit: CM has a separate zip with all the Google apps like market so OP I don't see why that would be a con. CM builds also have trackpad wake built in.
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Great starting point on a comparison guide.
However, how is the CM Rom "Barebone"..? It has many features over stock and destroys any other build I have ever seen on any phone to date. The lack of Google apps was from an order by Google to not include any Google apps in roms. That is why there is the Gapps.zip located where the download is for the CM Roms.
I personally hate sense user interface since I like to have a single blank screen besides a clock widget and a pacman wallpaper. No app drawer Icon since i use flick up to open the drawer.

That reminds me.
I forgot to mention that my G2 is overclocked to about 1.2 ghz and I have 1 calendar widget, 1 SetCPU widget, and 3 app shortcuts. That's it.
Overclocking works wonders, for those of you who wonder if overclocking has appreciable differences or not.
danielefeldt said:
Great starting point on a comparison guide.
However, how is the CM Rom "Barebone"..? It has many features over stock and destroys any other build I have ever seen on any phone to date. The lack of Google apps was from an order by Google to not include any Google apps in roms. That is why there is the Gapps.zip located where the download is for the CM Roms.
I personally hate sense user interface since I like to have a single blank screen besides a clock widget and a pacman wallpaper. No app drawer Icon since i use flick up to open the drawer.
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I suppose everyone has their own taste. Some people like to load their screens full of random ass widgets. Some people like it simple and have a clean homescreen. Others compromise between the two (like me)
And your point is duly noted.

ddgarcia05 said:
I have CM RC3 w/ launcher pro. I find that at times when going back to my homescreen the widgets lag about a second or two behind. When I used sence on the device it would lag a lot. I would pull down the status bar and I had to wait for it to pull down, that's why I made the jump to CM. I really enjoy CM and have cut back on the widgets to prevent a lag.
Edit: CM has a separate zip with all the Google apps like market so OP I don't see why that would be a con. CM builds also have trackpad wake built in.
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Yes it is a setting you have to enable under Cyanogenmod settings...

danielefeldt said:
Yes it is a setting you have to enable under Cyanogenmod settings...
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duly noted.

Also Sense UI takes up quite a bit more memory and it shows in benchmarks and in high end applications.
CM is stripped down so you can add items you want to add to it such as transitions and other UI tweaks with out having all the bloat of Sense UI.
Sense UI is ok and all but soon as you try to adjust your pixel density it will look like ass =/

It's all personal prefence. I like the Sense ui, but it really does take up a lot of memory. Using the Advanced Task Manager with Sense I can see when I free up memory, I'll have about 100mb left, meanwhile with the stock rom, clearing out apps, will give me about 190-200mb.
Not that it matters, because Android has great Ram management but still for the self conscience ones it bothers them.

i like virtuous because its nice and fast enough for me

Nice little basic write up.
My first ROM to ever flash was the CM V6.1.0-RC4, and I found the GAPPS, after much researching.
I kinda like that way I have stuff set up after 3 days of permroot, and flashing this ROM, so I don't know if I need to test the waters and see about the Virtuous.
I've never had the delay on wake-ups, and the start up time beats the hell out of stock.
I love waking my phone up from the track pad, that was always weird to me having to hit the power key twice to unlock on stock.
BillY

Both roms are VERY good roms. I personally switch back and forth here and there for the fun of it. But my personal favorite would have to be CM. Virtous isnt too far behind it though.

Sense or no sense thats the difference. The only difference imo.
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i go with virtuos because
1.FM radio
2.friends streams
3.news streams
4.full size stock
5. looks good
6.heard CM rom eat battery like crazy

G1_enthusiast said:
i go with virtuos because
1.FM radio
6.heard CM rom eat battery like crazy
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I'd just like to point out that CM has implemented an FM Radio app in the later builds, and battery life could not be better (18 hours under normal use for me).

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G1_enthusiast said:
i go with virtuos because
1.FM radio
2.friends streams
3.news streams
4.full size stock
5. looks good
6.heard CM rom eat battery like crazy
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Plus
Virtuous pros:
->Updating is a breeze.. I love the patches, unlike CM that you need to download huge file plus google apps and wipe every time update is around.
->I think there is more camera/video function on the virtuous.
->I love the hidden top taskbar.. multitasking is made easy.
->Built in Titanium back up
->Built in QuickOffice
->Did I say.. DLNA?
...---- You can output your pictures, videos and music to your TV.. how cool is that.
->When you hold and press power button, it gives you so many power related choices.
->Built in, SMS, MMS widget
->Register to HTC sense and when your phone is stolen, you can locate it.
->Much better car panel.
->I love the wheel like GUI when you adjust time/alarm... it is so much easier.
->'Clock' , has many functions.. Timer/Stop watch/world Clock....
->The clock + weather widget.. your screen rains/clouds/etc depending on the weather.
->Flip the phone while ringing and it will silent it.. very good function during meetings.
->I think it rings louder when it is inside your pocket.
->It has it's own navigation app.. It downloaded something on my first use... I think that's the local map loaded in your phone. You could probably still use navigation without data connection.
->FM radio is already stated above.
Virtuous cons:
->no built in swype yet
CM pros:
->unlike virtuous, you can put to phone to 'silent' so easily
->And, I have used CM for a long time.. could be that I am just used to it.

none of the ROMS have built in swype.

convolution said:
none of the ROMS have built in swype.
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I might be wrong but i think pauls rom does have swype also the vinilla villian or somthing like that. Anyway you can add swype to any of them pretty easy.
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Both great ROMS
I think that they are both great ROMs. I keep going from one to the other as soon as a new revision comes out. I do think that Virtuous could use the silent option in the power options, a percentage indicator when charging, and the auto rotate when in the home screen. Other than that, both ROMs ROCK!

ositogriz said:
I think that they are both great ROMs. I keep going from one to the other as soon as a new revision comes out. I do think that Virtuous could use the silent option in the power options, a percentage indicator when charging, and the auto rotate when in the home screen. Other than that, both ROMs ROCK!
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I generally use Battery Watcher for power percentage (shows it even when charging). Virtuous does have a silent option in the power options thing and also rotates now.
I use a sense based virtuous rom with launcher pro since I like the HTC apps (not so much the widgets). Uploading to facebook via gallery could not be easier and better managed. Also, the HTC camera app is really good! HTC sms app lags a little when I have over 400 messages to load and the contacts app lacks a filter.
HTC apps are the only thing holding me back from going CM
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I think they are both excellent roms however I don't care for all the dev added stuff. Its like t mobile only with the developers marks all over the place. Personally I use Enomther's rom and will always recommend him over any other. Stable, added optional goodies and lightning fast everything anyone could want. As far as sense roms go I would use EvilD'S mt4g rom as its amazing!

[Q] Any Wildfire Speeding Up Tricks

Hi all,
Got my girlfriend a Wildfire a while ago and while she generally likes it she does complain it runs a bit slowly now and again - general things like unresponsive keyboard and slow to load the SMS app.
The phone is on the latest stock T-Mobile 2.2 ROM and generally I'd like to keep it that way (don't really want to downgrade it to be able to run a custom ROM). I do have one or two questions;
1) Will installing something like LauncherPro or ADW make the phone any faster? I understand Sense will still "be there" but I'm hoping it will be relegated to the background where it won't have as much impact on the rest of the phone. Am I right? She barely uses the homescreen so I can probably cut it down to one or two screens and save memory that way.
2) Will using a 3rd-party keyboard like Better Keyboard or SwiftKeys be more responsive than the standard HTC one? I don't really want to introduce her to Swype, think that's a bridge too far!
3) Would a 3rd-party SMS app like Chomp be quicker to use than the stock HTC app? I've checked the number of messages she has and to be honest it's not exactly a lot - she tends to delete ones she doesn't feel the need to keep.
Thanks all for your help.

Hmm for the first question try to clean up on the sd card then erase history with history eraser a.d then kill some processes with atk with stock i thing this is the only way to make it runs smoother, about the keyboard i advice gingerbread keyboard.
About the lpp, i dont thing on stock it will make phone runs smoother, htc sense still will be in back ground and also the stock's apps i.e. sms will be in use.
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overclock?

I want also to know this:
"1) Will installing something like LauncherPro or ADW make the phone any faster? I understand Sense will still "be there" but I'm hoping it will be relegated to the background where it won't have as much impact on the rest of the phone. Am I right? She barely uses the homescreen so I can probably cut it down to one or two screens and save memory that way."
And I don't understand well the second post.
I can't root but I want to know if I can install LauncherPro in order to have a faster wildfire, but I've the same doubt as the initial post.
Does anybody know ?
Thanks a lot.

I'm using launcher pro for a while now, and i think that using it instead of sense, makes android shut down htc sense (so both aren't running at the same time). Because when I clear the preferences of launcher pro afther using it a while, and then return to the htc sense, it has to reload my "desktop"..
But to be honest, it sometimes feels a bit faster then sense, but i'm not sure it realy is.
For the sms app: i think the fastest one is the stock one, but it is for sure not the nicest thing to work with. But that is a personal mather
Erwin

I put Launcher Pro on my wife's wildfire and she seems to think it's faster and more responsive.

Maybe because of scrolling speed which made me thinking its faster aswell
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Sense takes more memory. With LauncherPro or ADW seems to have more free mem. more memory = fast
Sense sms feel like slower then 3rd party one. At least it feel like

echolock said:
Rant rant rant... WON'T do this, WON'T do that.
Swype smells.
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Sometimes you just gotta jump into the deep end to swim better. S-OFF it, root it, install CyanogenMod, overclock it, replace ADW with Launcher Pro, install Handcent (Faster than Chomp... Especially when you have over 10K SMSes xD), change LCD density, change theme. SHOOP. Done
And for the record, Swype is awesome.

Just a link for those that might find this thread via Google;
http://android.appstorm.net/how-to/customization/htc-wildfire-performance-hints-tips-and-tricks/
That page has some nice tips, and the comments section is good too.

Take back the atrix

During my time on the forums i have learned to run another launcher if you dont like motoblurr but one problem is that even when you do this its still running in the background with social network or what ever... well i like facebook and twitter for android so if you use titanium backup pro you can just freeze motoblurr (AFTER YOU ALREADY HAVE ANOTHER LAUNCHER IN PLACE) and your phone battery will last longer and i havent had a hint of lag or slow down in browsing or anything in the last 24 hours its amazing atrix is running better then my inspire now! that's an improvement it feels like a dual core phone finally even when running heavy flash sites.

so why does this thread say 'take back the atrix' ?

domin8 said:
so why does this thread say 'take back the atrix' ?
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LOL...returning to its intended state of efficiency and speed. Return the atrix from its indentured servitude from blurness.....
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frankiedizzle87 said:
During my time on the forums i have learned to run another launcher if you dont like motoblurr but one problem is that even when you do this its still running in the background with social network or what ever... well i like facebook and twitter for android so if you use titanium backup pro you can just freeze motoblurr (AFTER YOU ALREADY HAVE ANOTHER LAUNCHER IN PLACE) and your phone battery will last longer and i havent had a hint of lag or slow down in browsing or anything in the last 24 hours its amazing atrix is running better then my inspire now! that's an improvement it feels like a dual core phone finally even when running heavy flash sites.
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Um...I'm going to have to try this "Freezing Motoblur" out. I know that when I have two launchers installed like right now I have Launcherpro Plus as well as Motoblur. I freeze Launcherpro because if you switch to motoblur and press the home button, it takes you right back to launcherpro.
But nevertheless, thanks for the insight.

I just deleted the widgets from motoblur once I got Launcher Pro as the default launcher. Effectively does the same thing without freezing the applications. Those services are running in the background because they are running widgets imo.

egolfer said:
I just deleted the widgets from motoblur once I got Launcher Pro as the default launcher. Effectively does the same thing without freezing the applications. Those services are running in the background because they are running widgets imo.
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Actually they are running in the background because (widget or not) Moto has them set to ping and get data at various times a day. And there is no setting to disable that. They are always running.

domin8 said:
so why does this thread say 'take back the atrix' ?
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He probably doesn't speak English as a first language, and saw the movie "Take back the city", and meant it in the same way.
I -like everyone else- thought this was another "I'm returning the Atrix" thread.