Nova Launcher VS. Touchwiz : Not what you expect! - Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion

I fell in love with the performance, features and active development of the Nova Launcher. That led me to buy the Prime version. I was happy with it until I installed it on the Galaxy S7. It is well optimized with 'near google stock' ROMs, AOSP based ROMs and as well as with most of the themed ROMs by OEMs but not in the new TOUCHWIZ.
It is consuming a hefty amount of memory (RAM) even relative to Touchwiz Home Launcher. You'll be surprised to see the results from the attached images. The reason being the 'accessibility' permission required for 'gestures' feature in Nova. If it is enabled it consumes what you are seeing in those images.
and yeah! this affects RAM Management in Galaxy S7 even though not much in battery life. This frustrates me to see a Launcher sold for it's efficiency and features doesn't live up to its mark. But you may say "Can't blame the dev for this and this is the problem with TouchWiz". Well not, it's problem with the Nova itself since I also ran Apex Launcher(accessibility enabled) after uninstalling Nova and the results speaks for themselves.
Galaxy S7 being one of the highest sold device of this year. It's a responsibility of the developer to optimize for it. Hope he does it soon.
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Interesting I guess. Maybe I'll try Apex, that use to be my go to launcher years ago.
Hasn't been any updates to it in.the last year though!

Your having problem with 180mb on a 4Gig ram device? What ever you say man.

I'm on Nova, no complains.
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S7 Touchwiz allows to hide icons ?? that's the main reason for me to use Nova

Using a marginally small amount of RAM out of 4GB is not something to worry about. I don't know why everyone is so concerned about apps using RAM, and clearing recent since both of those come from the same thought process. I never clear my apps, RAM, and I have 0 issues.

krusty_dc said:
Your having problem with 180mb on a 4Gig ram device? What ever you say man.
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Pilz said:
Using a marginally small amount of RAM out of 4GB is not something to worry about. I don't know why everyone is so concerned about apps using RAM, and clearing recent since both of those come from the same thought process. I never clear my apps, RAM, and I have 0 issues.
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Neither I do. I don't have any problem with apps taking ~200MB RAM as long as I'm happy with the performance of the device. Even there are few apps in my device including Twitter, Facebook etc which does it. But those all serve different purposes. For an app, as simple like Nova which is even said to be "performance driven" this is not expected.

alisaGrg said:
Neither I do. I don't have any problem with apps taking ~200MB RAM as long as I'm happy with the performance of the device. Even there are few apps in my device including Twitter, Facebook etc which does it. But those all serve different purposes. For an app, as simple like Nova which is even said to be "performance driven" this is not expected.
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Funny your basing an app as "performance driven" by the amount of ram its consuming. So it means your good with the app but the phone since it is performing not to your satisfaction.
Performance as defined by the internet "is what is required to be performed in fulfillment of a contract, promise, or obligation".
Nova defined their product as "Nova Launcher replaces your home screen with one you control and can customize. Change icons, layouts, animations and more."
No statement in the app store says "will use smaller ram than your built in skin".
I am satisfied with it as you can see that the ram it uses in my phone typically is around 20 - 60 mb.

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Neither I do. I don't have any problem with apps taking ~200MB RAM as long as I'm happy with the performance of the device. Even there are few apps in my device including Twitter, Facebook etc which does it. But those all serve different purposes. For an app, as simple like Nova which is even said to be "performance driven" this is not expected.
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Twitter, Facebook, and other social media apps are horrible for your battery, and performance. Nova is completely different, and actually does something useful. I dont know where the confusion about bad performance is coming from because I've never seen it using Nova.
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Funny your basing an app as "performance driven" by the amount of ram its consuming. So it means your good with the app but the phone since it is performing not to your satisfaction.
Performance as defined by the internet "is what is required to be performed in fulfillment of a contract, promise, or obligation".
Nova defined their product as "Nova Launcher replaces your home screen with one you control and can customize. Change icons, layouts, animations and more."
No statement in the app store says "will use smaller ram than your built in skin".
I am satisfied with it as you can see that the ram it uses in my phone typically is around 20 - 60 mb.
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That's a good way to phrase it; too many people misinterpret things with out actually checking to see if their assumptions are correct. Nova is a great launcher, and I've used it since the days of my SIII.

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Twitter, Facebook, and other social media apps are horrible for your battery, and performance. Nova is completely different, and actually does something useful. I dont know where the confusion about bad performance is coming from because I've never seen it using Nova.
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That's a good way to phrase it; too many people misinterpret things with out actually checking to see if their assumptions are correct. Nova is a great launcher, and I've used it since the days of my SIII.
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Dude we are using Nova almost at the same length of time. I have been using it for my Htc One X before.
I used Nova for two Galaxys, S6 and now S7 flat. Never had any issues with ram and battery life with nova. Never even stuttered since Ive used it for my s6.

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Dude we are using Nova almost at the same length of time. I have been using it for my Htc One X before.
I used Nova for two Galaxys, S6 and now S7 flat. Never had any issues with ram and battery life with nova. Never even stuttered since Ive used it for my s6.
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I do get the occasional crash on my Nexus mainly due to using some features with root; other than that I've never had any real issues. I own Apex, Action launcher, and some others, yet I still prefer Nova hands down for the customizability and support.

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I do get the occasional crash on my Nexus mainly due to using some features with root; other than that I've never had any real issues. I own Apex, Action launcher, and some others, yet I still prefer Nova hands down for the customizability and support.
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Nova for me is the clear balance of minimalism, features and speed. Also OP you can use root instead of accessibility. It's in gesture settings.
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hackarchive said:
Nova for me is the clear balance of minimalism, features and speed. Also OP you can use root instead of accessibility. It's in gesture settings.
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My Nexus does use less RAM with Nova likely due to root permissions like you said. Here is a screenshot of it below. Nova just provides a nice consistent experience that is smooth yet useful too.

Any questions? ^^ and yes i use gestures, too

I've been on Nova Prime for quite a damn long time but switched to LightningLauncher some months ago and will never go back.
Only a few hundred kilobytes big but customization options beyond belief. I have "Keep in Memory" active so avg. RAM usage is ~150mb.

I used Apex for years but switched to Nova a few days ago and the difference in RAM usage is negligible. Apex never used as little as 26 MB on my phone (nor on my old S4).

maybe on a galaxy ace that`s a problem but in S7 ? Lol.

Nova its just horrible on design, RAM and battery.
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nova is one of the worst launchers
with is why i stick to the normal stock launcher. I got sick of them even on my other phones.
The big thing that turns me off is all the crap they keep adding to the program and then add paid feats and this and that

Studio1b said:
nova is one of the worst launchers
with is why i stick to the normal stock launcher. I got sick of them even on my other phones.
The big thing that turns me off is all the crap they keep adding to the program and then add paid feats and this and that
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Oh no, a developer trying to make money from his hard work! No way! /s

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ViBrant Lag/Slowness

So to make my Question short
id like to know to know how well the phone performs after having used for at least 24 hours. I hear People complain about it lagging and being slow when switching homescreens specially if you add TouchWiz3 Widgets????
Im thinking of ordering one but want to hear from you guys. I Really dont support Samsung too much because well, THEY dont support their customers either. They say one thing with updates and promises but at the end they never fullfill their words. Any ideas???
If theres samsung widgets on TW then yes it lags.. I use tw without samsungs widgets and dont get any slowness going on.
I personaly havent seen any slowness yet. But read others do. Maybe im lucky..
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If theres samsung widgets on TW then yes it lags.. I use tw without samsungs widgets and dont get any slowness going on.
I personaly havent seen any slowness yet. But read others do. Maybe im lucky..
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That Truly Sucks. Is it still possible too use stock 2.1 Launcher and not TW like with most android phone?
Yeah you can use Launcher PRO instead.
minogue said:
That Truly Sucks. Is it still possible too use stock 2.1 Launcher and not TW like with most android phone?
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yea just use adw launcher or launcher pro. Fast as can be with either of those. But im digging the TW for now without the widgets...
Awesome. Thanks for the replies. i guess ill be picking one up later around 6pm at T-Mobile Corp. Store.
Only Thing i hate is after playing with nexus one, mytouch slide, HD2, i will be missing the Led Flash which i still wonder why they would not add such feauture.
Kinda makes me think its because they want to launch a new phone not too far away and add Flash so people want to upgrade their current phones to that:/
I am using Samsung Widgets in 3 of 5 my screens with no Lag; I find it curious anyone is having lag unless you have like 20 homescreens packed with widgets. The hummingbird processor in this beast has currently edged out all of the top of the line android phones for CPU speed and it also has the fastest GPU (PowerVR SGX540) as well, offering performance of almost 2x compared to the Evo and Nexus. Lag should not be a happening thing
I have had mine since Friday, used it with TW and samsung widgets without issue, but I like the customization from adw so I have been using that for the last couple days. So far I have no complaints about speed, just hoping the gps and compass issues get fixed soon.
I have 3 widgets, one of them being Buddies now and get very little lag. Only the pause when coming back to the home screen (not always happening)
New owner I have one widget no lag at all.
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No lag here, I was using touchwiz but I prefer the more stock look of adw launcher...
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liquidice007 said:
I am using Samsung Widgets in 3 of 5 my screens with no Lag; I find it curious anyone is having lag unless you have like 20 homescreens packed with widgets. The hummingbird processor in this beast has currently edged out all of the top of the line android phones for CPU speed and it also has the fastest GPU (PowerVR SGX540) as well, offering performance of almost 2x compared to the Evo and Nexus. Lag should not be a happening thing
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I wish I could say the same. I have one widget, feeds and updates, and when it tries to refresh, it lags like hell. If I add the buddies now widget on another screen, just those 2 tw widgets are enough to make this feel like my original mytouch. Very disappointed in the lag.
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I wish I could say the same. I have one widget, feeds and updates, and when it tries to refresh, it lags like hell. If I add the buddies now widget on another screen, just those 2 tw widgets are enough to make this feel like my original mytouch. Very disappointed in the lag.
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Could you describe the lag in more detail? How many screens do you have? What wallpaper are you using? Are those the only 2 widgets you are using? Is the lag a skipping or is the phone not responsive at all? Is it better after a reboot?
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No lag here, I was using touchwiz but I prefer the more stock look of adw launcher...
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I always love ADW because of the options and ESPECIALLY the "Drop to Uninstall" option.
but ADW would be just another program running, using more RAM. less use the better.
Yeah from what I can tell the TWLauncher is pretty light on the battery.
i just got rid of the 7 screens and am just using 1. i am gonna see if this helps with the overall performance of the phone. (from the homescreen> menu (haptic button)>edit> then delete the homescreens to your heart's content . You can always put them back by using the same method
neema said:
Could you describe the lag in more detail? How many screens do you have? What wallpaper are you using? Are those the only 2 widgets you are using? Is the lag a skipping or is the phone not responsive at all? Is it better after a reboot?
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I currently have five screens, one has Weather Widget and battery widget, another has the feeds and updates widget, then 2 widgets for stocks (that only update when i tell them to) and youtube and google search widgets. No live wallpaper either. When adding more TW widgets, swiping screens is slower than my old mytouch.
neema said:
Could you describe the lag in more detail? How many screens do you have? What wallpaper are you using? Are those the only 2 widgets you are using? Is the lag a skipping or is the phone not responsive at all? Is it better after a reboot?
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I was running fine for a couple of days and then I started noticing the lag. Selecting the Settings menu would take a couple of seconds. Camera would take a while. I have also had 3 or 4 freezes and had to reboot my phone. Hardly ever happened on the G1 in two years. Would get a black screen for 3-4 seconds in between operations. No spinner. Initially kept thinking the phone was going to sleep.
I have 5 screens with the buddies widget, 2 picture frames, the double daily time widget and Google Search. Shouldn't be causing this hardware to so much as break sweat. I tried removing all widgets. But it didn't help.
What did help was rooting the phone and running the script to move the apps to NAND. But of course there's a limitation on the number of apps. So far, after doing this, it's much better. I'll see if this holds.
The lags have ruined an otherwise outstanding experience on this phone. I'm very disappointed with this performance on this hardware.
What's interesting here is that it's working well for some of you. Which makes it inexplicable why moving the apps to NAND should make such a difference. If this were a problem with the cache, it should have been a problem on every phone. Don't understand this.
The good news is that almost all of the problems I have with the phone should be software fixable.
When it works well, it truly is an amazing device.
I'm very interested in doing the lag fix but I'm intimidated by the process. Is it worth trying to learn ADB? Or should I wait until September for the 2.2 release?
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I have major lag only when using my corporate email (Exchange active sync). just opening, composing or deleting takes about 5 to 8 sec. Has anyone else experienced this?

After market Launchers - Kernel/ROM DEVs POV

So, I have the paid versions of Launcher Pro, ADW Ex, & SPB Shell 3D, and the Go Launcher is free.Dont always have all 4 installed, but it is super easy to swap between them, using the setting's backups.
I have seen many different comments about options, but for the most part, I know what I like about each, so I was looking for a bit of different advice/tips on the launchers
Is there any one that is better for battery life, or is that a non-issue due to how launchers work?
In the past, I saw a lot of stuff about LWPs killing your battery, but in testing on my Epic, at least for me, that was MOSTLY due to my sitting and watching the LWP to begin with. So I was wondering if different launchers cause different amounts of battery drain, when used in basically the same manner.
So, from the POV of those that write kernels and ROMs, is one more of a battery sipper than the others?
Or is the differences more all about performance, and any battery drain effect is just a non-issue?
Touchwiz is the best for speed and battery and second is the AOSP launcher. I heard Go Launcher jacks your data...
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go launcher is really good for making folders. and it has a **** ton of themes. i always found it pretty good on battery, though not as good as a stock launcher or launcherpro. spb OWNS your battery. try out the MIUI Launcher..it should be pretty good and not too hard on the battery, and it looks awesome - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220695
I have always personally felt that Launcher Pro is the smoothest and easiest on the battery. Its different for every phone because...well... every phone is different in its own way. Some roms run better on certain epics, and im sure the same goes for launchers.
Zeam
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Zeam
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That's what I use, but the latest versions OF Zeam don't run as light or smooth as it did earlier.
dohturdima said:
That's what I use, but the latest versions OF Zeam don't run as light or smooth as it did earlier.
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Zeam 2.8.8 lol. I use it for scrollable widgets
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I believe the OP was asking this to Devs.
#Justsayin
zanderman112 said:
I believe the OP was asking this to Devs.
#Justsayin
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It was aimed at devs, but I welcome all non-troll answers
The reason I aimed it at devs, is I was interested in the sw aspects of battery interaction, much more than features of any launcher in specific. As such, I figured those that write new kernels would have a better knowledge of how the launcher interacts with the sw when it comes to battery use than the typical person who just tinkers (like myself)
I have noticed that SPB Shell chugs battery, but I think that may in large part be due to all the extra animations it runs as default
I normally config whatever launcher I use to where I don't have any icons or widgets on my desktop at all, and this seems to redue battery drain, but it may be imaginary, and not actual reduction in drain
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zanderman112 said:
I believe the OP was asking this to Devs.
#Justsayin
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Obviously the devs aren't capable of answering, so you're right.
CLOSE THE THREAD OP. Regular users are giving their input on how their battery fares when using the launchers you posted about!
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marcusant said:
I heard Go Launcher jacks your data...
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I've never heard that... Where was this discussed?
You have a better head on than most people around here about stuff, so I have a little trouble dismissing this as the usual herpderp whenever an app asks for permissions, hah. -_-
Well, if you don't care about non devs answering, then LP is the best for battery. However, if Launcher7 is set up correctly, it can save battery too.
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Obviously the devs aren't capable of answering, so you're right.
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Or they are really busy with their lives and will do so when they get around to it, its not like it is any sort of massive priority. ROFL!
Anyways, you don't have to be a dev to answer, I just figured they were the best target audience to ask, given their work on the Epics kernels
But they certainly arnt the only ones in this world with knowledge
And I welcome all helpful replies, the rest are just ignored
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I've tried Go, ADW, Zeam on several occasions but I always keep coming back to Launcher Pro. Has always been the fastest and least buggy for me.
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I've tried Go, ADW, Zeam on several occasions but I always keep coming back to Launcher Pro. Has always been the fastest and least buggy for me.
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I like Launcherpro if only because of the scrollable shortcuts at the bottom and the sheer simplicity. I have also asked some ACS devs to answer and I'll update their answers as they come in.
Bogityshoe: sbd shell launcher
dreamsforgotten: Zeam ADW
Tiger: adw because he's a launcher because he loves it and is a launcher racist
ive had mixed results with different roms
like srf1.1 for me the best was adw ex but on srf1.2 it wouldnt work good at all so i used launcher pro
those are the only 2 i will use, but id say just try diff ones & see whats good for whatever rom your on
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those are the only 2 i will use, but id say just try diff ones & see whats good for whatever rom your on
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I normally install and try out ADW EX, LP, and GO launcher on each ROM I check out, but it seems to be more of a what you like than anything else
No matter how I have tried to track it, the only launcher I have seen actually do worse on the battery with the same setup otherwise, is SPB Shell 3D, though I do tend to almost never run the stock launcher, which I have seen reported as the best sipper of the battery
I am beginning to think that any battery drain difference between ADW Ex, LP, and GO L is negligible, but was looking for a wider review of the matter
Smoothness has never been an issue for me no matter the launcher, as I run empty desktops, no widgets, and only icons on the scrolling dock.
My preference would be ADW; highly customization, low fingerprint, low cpu and ram consumption. Plus its based off the stock AOSP Launcher which in theory should be a great a start.
I was introduce to ADW when the first custom rom came out for HTC G1 which most of us know is a grandfather android device. At that time it was the best and only alternative launcher and til this day I really have not found anything better.
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My preference would be ADW; highly customization, low fingerprint, low cpu and ram consumption. Plus its based off the stock AOSP Launcher which in theory should be a great a start.
I was introduce to ADW when the first custom rom came out for HTC G1 which most of us know is a grandfather android device. At that time it was the best and only alternative launcher and til this day I really have not found anything better.
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What about launcher pro?
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What about launcher pro?
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I have always tended to bounce back and forth between ADW EX & LP
I have stuck with ADW EX recently because I currently like one of ADW Black theme icon packs
As the same pack is done in pink, I can make my Epic and my GF's Epic Touch look the same, except for mine is black and hers is pink

Improving your S4

Hello there,
Like most people, the TouchWiz on the new Samsung Galaxy S4 is the most annoying and useless thing on the planet. Its slow, laggy, and intrusive, and you are wondering who you want to improve your device. Not only is TouchWiz annoying you but some other things within the Samsung/Android OS are annoying you, well here are some of the best solution and work arounds to all problems that you may encounter on the Galaxy S4.
LAUNCHER
TOUCHWIZ IS NO GOOD. If you are any type of developer or someone who generally likes to customize their device, you will not enjoy TouchWiz. The look and feel are terrible, its slow and laggy, and everything about it just seems childish. So here the solution to that. If you want to you can Unlock, Root, and Flash ROM's on to your device, IF YOU ARE EXPERIENCED. You can easily brick your device if you do not follow the directions correctly and will lead to a lot of hair tearing out. If you want to Root and Flash then check some other threads out, Here is a easy solution on the Play store.
Go and check out some of the Launchers in the Play store. There are so many to choose from. I personally used ADW on my Xoom, but now on my S4 I am using Nova Launcher Prime. This is a little pricey at $4.00 but is well worth it. You can do almost anything in the means of customizing the device. Grid size can be changes, animation, screen transition style. The long you play around with the Launcher more and more you find it can be customized easily. Plus the best part about Nova Prime is that you now have a "Stock" Android feel, plus is runs perfectly. If this Launcher isnt your first chose there is also Apex, Smart, Holo, Buzz, and Launcher 8. These launchers can be changed at any time and make your device completely your own.
APPS
Samsung put a lot of bloatware on this device. You will not use a lot of it. So how to you get rid of all of this software... Disable all apps that you are not going to use, NOT PROCESSES. Disabling these apps will ensure that they are not used and are not using up your battery. This ensures that what isnt important wont be used and use battery.
Stock apps that Samsung has are.......ok nothing to rave over. The Messaging app is a pain along with the Music Player. Ive replaced the Messaging app with GO SMS Pro, and then switched it to be default. Other Messaging apps include Messaging 7 and Sliding Messaging Pro, SMP is very laggy and is in Beta stages right now. For the Music Play I use NexMusic, which works perfectly. These apps ensure the best experience with the phone. I also replaced the Lockscreen with an app called Widgetlocker. I set the lockscreen in the settings to be NONE and then set up my Widgetlocker. This is a much better lockscreen than before.
Battery is always a major concern for all users, and BatteryGuru is awesome, its from Qualcomm and it helps with the processor usage. I will get into detail on how to conserve battery life in another section.
If you dont like a certain app that cannot be removed, and you want to find an alternate check YouTube and the Play store, or you can message me and I will help you with the problem app.
BATTERY
Improving battery life is such an important issue. Samsung has a lot of things that will kill your battery and give the phone a bad name in the battery division. Heres how to improve it. TURN OFF EVERYTHING. If you are not using GPS, Bluetooth, AirView and stuff like that, then turn it off. All it does is use battery... and a lot of it. I only have Sync, and or Wifi and Mobile Data depending on my location. Watch what settings and services you have running and you can save a lot of battery as long as you just turn off stuff that you are not using.
App management is huge. When you finish using apps make sure to delete it in the Multitasking tray, otherwise is will continue to run and use battery. Again, disable the unused app and manage usage on the others.
MOST IMPORTANT is the Screen, its a huge display. The higher the brightness, the less battery you are going to have. Also, with they type of screen this is, if you can use a black background you dont have to light up those pixels on the screen, which will save a ton of battery. Set the timeout to the lowest settings and make sure that you dont run a ton of graphic heavy apps or anything like that.
Overall manage you apps, screen, and services and you can get two days out of the phone. ALWAYS get a Full charge cycle. Run the battery dead and then fully recharge, but dont leave it on the charger. This will optimize the performance of the battery and phone.
QUESTIONS
If you have any question, send me a message and I can answer whatever question that you have. If I get enough request I can make a video to show these features. It will help, so let me know if any of you want a video.
Wow man, I like touchwiz. I ran AOSP for a year in my S3. I'm happy with touchwiz features. Hate the way it looks. Wish we had theme engine for touchwiz! Thanks for the tips. You definitely would enjoy liquid smooth. AOSP based rom!
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TouchWiz?
mike216 said:
Wow man, I like touchwiz. I ran AOSP for a year in my S3. I'm happy with touchwiz features. Hate the way it looks. Wish we had theme engine for touchwiz! Thanks for the tips. You definitely would enjoy liquid smooth. AOSP based rom!
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TouchWiz is good in some regards, but it has a long way to go in the means of easy of use and smoothness. Trying to get some new Android phone to put some ROMS on, but sticking with my S4 with Nova. If you saw a setup video on this would you think it would help?
Thanks for the reply, they help so much.
I just tried a AOSP based rom and it was blazing fast. I just miss the camera and features too much. I really need to get off my ass and theme it out with images from my favorite theme engine theme. The beautiful thing about android is there is no right or wrong. It's all about freedom and the users choice to choose exactly what they want. The other beautiful thing is if your on the more intelligent side you can run both. Have both backed up and nandroid away
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Missing Cuban said:
TouchWiz is good in some regards, but it has a long way to go in the means of easy of use and smoothness. Trying to get some new Android phone to put some ROMS on, but sticking with my S4 with Nova. If you saw a setup video on this would you think it would help?
Thanks for the reply, they help so much.
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Would specifically do you want to set up. The phone itself out nova?
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I prefer T/W with either Nova or Holo HD I also don't or won't pay for apps.
I've been flashing Roms since my S2 and I've flashed practically every aosp and aokp ROM for the S3.
As soon as the devs started offering tons of mods and themes for T/W I went back cuz I prefer the stability of T/W.
To each his own right now on my ATT S4 I'm running a Kanged GE ROM that's very smooth and fast.
I really don't care about battery life since I have a 7500 mAh ZeroLemon battery that I get 40 hours of run time.
Flash what you want find out what you enjoy most and have a nandroid. Have a blast with this wonderful device.:thumbup::thumbup:
"Zed"Zed's baby Zed's dead"
s4freak said:
I prefer T/W with either Nova or Holo HD I also don't or won't pay for apps.
I've been flashing Roms since my S2 and I've flashed practically every aosp and aokp ROM for the S3.
As soon as the devs started offering tons of mods and themes for T/W I went back cuz I prefer the stability of T/W.
To each his own right now on my ATT S4 I'm running a Kanged GE ROM that's very smooth and fast.
I really don't care about battery life since I have a 7500 mAh ZeroLemon battery that I get 40 hours of run time.
Flash what you want find out what you enjoy most and have a nandroid. Have a blast with this wonderful device.:thumbup::thumbup:
"Zed"Zed's baby Zed's dead"
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Why wouldn't you support developers? People work hard to bring you these apps. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I hate free apps. Always buy if there's a option to. I suppose you don't donate to developers neither huh
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mike216 said:
Why wouldn't you support developers? People work hard to bring you these apps. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I hate free apps. Always buy if there's a option to. I suppose you don't donate to developers neither huh
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You don't know me.
I support devs and I have my other screenname on their donaters list to prove it.I do with my money what I wish I work hard enough for it.
I buy what I want to buy. You spend your money how you see fit.
Have a great day.
"Zed"Zed's baby Zed's dead"
This is your own opinion obviously. Because I don't agree with half of this..sorry
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Wow man, I like touchwiz. I ran AOSP for a year in my S3. I'm happy with touchwiz features. Hate the way it looks. Wish we had theme engine for touchwiz! Thanks for the tips. You definitely would enjoy liquid smooth. AOSP based rom!
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Agreed here.
TheAxman said:
This is your own opinion obviously. Because I don't agree with half of this..sorry
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Agreed here.
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I tried a good AOSP rom yesterday because I was bored on my day off. Cane back to Touchwiz in 3 hours. It's so boring after a year of being on it faithfully. To each there own. Touchwiz is really growing on me. Love the features and amazing battery life. It's just as fast using omega and ktoonsez! I average over 4 hours of screen on time over 23 hours of idle time! Great combo
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I ran nothing but aosp on the G3..hated tw..one day got tired of the continous bluetooth issue...went back to tw..haven't left it since. For the G4 tw rocks. I have ran most of the G4 aosp roms...BORING. same ole stuff. It is always going to be this against that. And I am sorry, but the tw rom is better in the battery dept. Way better.
Ax's opinion only.
TheAxman said:
I ran nothing but aosp on the G3..hated tw..one day got tired of the continous bluetooth issue...went back to tw..haven't left it since. For the G4 tw rocks. I have ran most of the G4 aosp roms...BORING. same ole stuff. It is always going to be this against that. And I am sorry, but the tw rom is better in the battery dept. Way better.
Ax's opinion only.
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Best video player ever made, I'm always using the motion gestures to answer phone in the car. I'm a mechanic who really appreciates the hand gesture for all kinds of reasons. No more tricks to get my sixaxis controller working. Smart stay is one can't live without once use to it. The stock browser is unmatched speed wise. I'm sure I can keep going but those are a couple reasons I prefer to run touchwiz for everyday use. The touchwiz crowd grows bigger with every new galaxy S release. Me being one with this last release
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mike216 said:
Best video player ever made, I'm always using the motion gestures to answer phone in the car. I'm a mechanic who really appreciates the hand gesture for all kinds of reasons. No more tricks to get my sixaxis controller working. Smart stay is one can't live without once use to it. The stock browser is unmatched speed wise. I'm sure I can keep going but those are a couple reasons I prefer to run touchwiz for everyday use. The touchwiz crowd grows bigger with every new galaxy S release. Me being one with this last release
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Wow my friend in the heat of the battle. Exactly my thoughts. If you have a phone with these features, and you have a rom that does not use them, whats the point? Could have just stayed on the G3.
Ax's opinion only.
Battery with all the features enabled. Running at a clock speed range 189-1998
80% Brightness. I ****ing love it
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S3 was my first Samsung device. I didn't care for touch wiz for a long time, not because of the gesture control or anything, but because of the app drawer being to the right and the bloated bulkiness of it. I ran aosp rooms for quite a while but then started playing with touchwiz based roms. I found synergys room and stayed on that until I got my s4. Now I use stock rooted which I have debloated and modded to near perfection. I get pretty good battery and experience little to no lag. I'm starting to enjoy gesture and all the touchwiz features (ir blaster is awesome).
Pretty much any flavor of Android is customizable and debloatable, so the only thing that you can really hate is the fact that you have to manually mod it (which is the best part of owning an android).
Sorry for the long post just don't understand such a strong hate for a different flavor of Android. ...
I don't know why there's so much hating of t.w sure its not great but then again neither is aosp there's also tons of issues on cm and p.a for that matter.
All of my devices(look at my SIG)are on cm or something aosp and honestly I've gotten to the point that I'm so bored of aosp and cm always Bluetooth issues or some little bug.....with the s3 u needed cm but so far on my s4
I'm on stock rooted deodexed ROM with over locked kernel and it runs amazing.Just use a launcher man and use tibu to remove bloatware this way u get better battery.
I get like almost 16 hours with almost 4 hrs screen time and over clocked CPU and GPU some people probably are just running mad sh#t on the background and that's why your phones are as#ed out.
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Idk about you but this is pretty good for me look.
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You see what i mean....
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Idk about you but this is pretty good for me look.
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Looks good my friend but you have a battery problem. Google services should not be showing up there. Look for the new market. Version 4.1.10 there's a location bug fix and I highly suggest you read this thread. It solved my problem! Haven't had battery life like this ever in this phone. Here's the thread and here's a pic of today's user so far! Absolutely insane battery life
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Been off the charger all night to go along with that screen on time
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Sorry forgot to post this thread for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2338487
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Horrible Samsung Firmware, any alternatives?

Hello,
So I bought this device a week ago and the lag really bothers me. I noticed this device runs 70+ processes in the background and uses half of its memory on boot!
I remember when I installed cyanogenmod on my original Samsung Galaxy Tab, the thing was flying, even web browsing was several times smoother. Also it gives CPU clock options, and it gave me an option to adjust minimum CPU clock, this way a lot of lag just went away.
Thanks!
No custom ROMs yet. We just got a recovery so custom roms can now be used. Also what little lag I saw went away with the latest update. It is a good idea to get all the updates then wipe and start fresh.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513532
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508143
none of those do much of anything to speed up my device overall. just faster homescreen swiping. i've always used alternative launchers mainly for the customizations, whatever speed they grant is negligible since i spend so little time in the launchers themselves. the majority of the apps disabled in that list i've had frozen since root came out. i even refreshed for the hell of it and no difference.
i love the device, but samsung has done some crappy work on the software.
madsquabbles said:
none of those do much of anything to speed up my device overall. just faster homescreen swiping. i've always used alternative launchers mainly for the customizations, whatever speed they grant is negligible since i spend so little time in the launchers themselves. the majority of the apps disabled in that list i've had frozen since root came out. i even refreshed for the hell of it and no difference.
i love the device, but samsung has done some crappy work on the software.
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The only issue I see with custom roms is the loss of spen functionality which is really a shame. Without the spen this is just another 10in tab. Samsung has added some great functionality with snote, the air dock, multi Windows.. Etc.
Hopefully we get a de bloated rom soon. But as others have said, the lag has somewhat improved with the latest patch. But I feel where you're coming from, the first thing I noticed when I turned it on was lag. In fact, I should post the gtalk conversation I had with my tech buddy the dash I got it.
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a TW based custom ROM won't lose any of the S Pen stuff.
Design
More horrible is the Design of the Firmware. I mean look at that statusbar with that buttons for WLAN , GPS and so on. It looks like some ugly quaters.

Launcher... why yes but which one are you using?

what launcher you are using and why
I have used many launchers and it seems though some are smaller size wise most use up to the 123mb that TW uses (this includes unread plugins and such) even Trebuchet from CM is using from 99-122mb.
Just wondering if there is a gem hiding that I havent used
Favorites
Zeam- too old has issues now
Nova- memory hog
Apex- out of date
Lightning- uses alot of memory
KEEP IT CLEAN AND POLITE. ALL COMMENTS AND OPINIONS ARE WELCOME :good:
Mods if it gets out of hand or if it feels irrelevant feel free to remove post or clean post at will. Thank you in advance for all your hard work
Touchwiz! ?
Stuck on GoLauncher... I know it's heavy , but so used to it.. Will move to something simpler soon
Nova prime is still the best, it's been regularly updated and has the best customizations. Every launcher is a memory hog, so you might as well choose the best lol
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Been using Nova launcher for years now and have never regretted my decision, even after using alternatives like golauncher, apex, trebuchet, etc I would still find myself reinstalling nova. Another reason for my love for it is the constant updates and implementation of new animations each time a new Android version comes out, it is versatile and as surprised as I am to hear people point out is a memory hog this is one issue I have never experienced.
true would be nice though to have a truly light weight launcher.
Using Mihome launcher
Nova launcher, prime. Worth the donation, and the devs maintain it. I bought ADW a long time ago, but it's growing cobwebs.
Anybody use the sense 7 launcher and apps?
Nova
Nova, because of the ability to have a scrollable dock. I have 5 pages (25 icons) there, so I almost never need to use the app drawer.
I love the tsf 3d launcher and use it with the lines icon pack. Comes with its own weather widget which I love
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Smart launcher works best for me
I know that I'm inviting hate by saying it, but I'm using the Google Now Launcher on my Galaxy Note 4 N910T. Used Nova religiously my my GS3 and Note 2, then got a Nexus 5 on launch day and got hooked on Google Now. Haven't really tried anything since, though I might revisit the launcher scene if I'm looking to change things up.
I'm still on stock ROM, but using Nova Launcher. I think I misread the poll and voted stock. Sorry.
Nova or Apus launcher
no hate for the Google now laucher, if you use it as its meant it is pretty sweet and has good functionality. I myself tried out Windows launcher wasn't super impressed that's why I use android lol

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