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Hi all, this is my first post on xda developers (best site i've seen for xda related stufff).
Anyway my query relates to remote desktop control on the pocket pc. I've used the microsoft client (whatever its called) to connect and manipulate my xda 2 on my pc, but now I'm looking to do the opposite: view and control my pc desktop from my Xda.
I have an application that is meant to do this (remote desktop), and i'm sure it would work, though it wants to connect via gprs/wap. I am wanting to connect via activesync ( specificaly bluetooth activesnyc ).
I was told Terminal Services Client was the program to use, but I cant work it out. I've tried connecting on my pc's name and ip with the pc (xp pro) set to receive incoming connections, but i keep getting connection errors...
I can't find any help relating to this type of scenario on the net , so if anyone can help it'd be appreciated.
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you have to turn it one in systems of your pc
then you have to make a connection to the pc from the pda
then you start therminal services and type in the name of the pc
and you are there
Despite being connected by activesync, my xda 2 still trys to connect via wap (preseumably because it sees the GPRS in use already).
Has anyone setup terminal service client to work under similar conditions?
Wacking another post on this to try and grab someones attention...
Terminal services client via activesync on xp pro... has anyone seen or got a tutorial? I try using my pc's name as the login and believed I have enabled everything I'm supposed to on my PC , but still can't get it to work. I'm sure I've just missed something somewhere on the PC, but can't think what for the life of me....
Any help would be really appreciated.
well you should prob disconnect gprs
and maybe set the network to work or home or how ever you set it on under connections
my problem is as soon as i login with my xda2 then my normal user on the pc get disconnected and that disable activesync kicking off my therminal services client (the xda2)
Rudegar said:
well you should prob disconnect gprs
and maybe set the network to work or home or how ever you set it on under connections
my problem is as soon as i login with my xda2 then my normal user on the pc get disconnected and that disable activesync kicking off my therminal services client (the xda2)
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I'm activesync'd with my PC so the GPRS connection is via the PC if it wasn't there I don't believe I could get anywhere with terminal services.... as I said when I try and connect it doesn't find my PC's name and so begins looking for it on the net... which for some reason it tries to look for on wap (connects itself).
What I need to / want to know is what settings people have setup on their pc, and how having a firewall effects it?
unless your pc's modem is another xda then your gprs is not going though your pc
gprs is cellphone only
under connections you need to set up a network which dont connect to gprs
I have Terminal Services Client working fine on my XDAII to connect via 802.11b to a Win 2k Server. As far as I know the Terminal Server has to be an actual server and not just a ordinary PC.
i doubt it because on this xp pro i could use therminal services
when i turned it on
the only problem was that i could not use activesync as the connection
because when i login'd with my pda i the normal user on the pc would be loged out disabling activesync
Thanks for the post. spent a while trying to config before i read this.
Is there a way i can use remote assistance from my xda2. What i want is to use my xda remote desktop as a remote control for playing my mp3s and vids direct on my pc
you could use vnc if therminal services will not work without logging the desktop user off and so disabling the activesync connection
controlling vids and mp3 i cannot help but what i did was that... i switch user in the win xp pro and login using the terminal client so in other words the active sync connection will not disconnect. but i don't like the idea of having the whole desktop on my PPC it sucks having lesser space to control the computer but remote desktop connection is bette but tis a demo version that i can get hold off. Thinking of purchasin the full version soon once i have a stable bluetooth connection. my BT range sucks.
Got a little app called Wake on LAN for PocketPC by Depicus. You enter the MAC address, ip address, subnet mask, and port on the ppc (my Universal). Tried using the MAC/ip address for the network card and for the wireless router. Neither worked - either for a wake up from off or from standby on XP Pro.
Have a Vonage modem in between the router and the network card. Perhaps that's preventing the wake up packet from getting through to the onboard network card.
Have wake up on LAN enabled and S3 wakeup enabled in PC BIOS (ASUS A8N32-SLI) and the onboard network card (Marvel Yukon) has wakeup LAN turned on.
The error message returned by the PPC wake up LAN app is "Could not find resource assembly". Whatever that means.
Any suggestions to get LAN wake-up working are appreciated. Thanks!
Have you tried using a VNC client ? In my experience that one also sends the magic packet.
I've just recently been doing this, but I haven't used any special app on my PPC to do it. I installed orb on my PC and when I open my.orb.com on my PPC if it can't see the PC it will allow you to send a wakeup command to it. Things that I did to allow the wake up were,
1. Forward UDP port 7 from my router to the PC
2. Set the ACPI power saving mode in the computer BIOS to S3, this allows you to select wake from USB device in the BIOS. I did this too although my PC is connected by ethernet.
3. Well that was all really, if my BIOS had a wake on LAN setting I would have enabled it but it doesn't, so I didn't.
Perhaps you should make sure that UDP port 7 is forwarded to your PC's IP address. If the PocketPC wake on LAN app doesn't work give orb a shot, its a great service, and completly free. I have to ask why you have your modem between the router and PC, surely you would attach the modem to your router's WAN port and the PC to one of the LAN ports, or did you actually mean that the router was between the modem and the PC?
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I've just recently been doing this, but I haven't used any special app on my PPC to do it. I installed orb on my PC and when I open my.orb.com on my PPC if it can't see the PC it will allow you to send a wakeup command to it.
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Hey, thanks a lot, shuflie, installing Orb and using it to send a wake-up worked!!! It wakes up the PC, then I can use my remote desktop app (z2Remote2PC) to send an [enter] command to log-on and control the PC. Nice one - thanks a lot!
Glad to be of help.
Is this the right ORB?
http://www.orb.com/installing_orb
has anyone of you experience this problem? in previous WM version 6.1, once you paired the PDA phone with say your laptop via bluetooth, then you are supposed to go Internet sharing click on PC Connection:Bluetooth PAN, Network Connection: Internet, once you press on "connect" button, the screen will show "Connected" . Now you can go to your Laptop & press Network Access service and laptop would be able to access internet wirelessly via your PDA phone.
but now in HD2, once you press "Connect" button it will go into device selection mode prompting you to select a device..and it always failed to connect if I choose my Laptop.
Any advice what went wrong?
Btw, HD2 becomes so disappointing really, besides the SMS not-send problem, my HD2 goes into sleep mode & unable to wake-up when presson hard button..quite frequently.. sigh..
I've got the same problem. Want my internet sharing back please! Has anyone got it working, and if so how?!
When I pair my phone there is always a bluetooth peripheral device driver failure (have manually installed wmdc and the driver) so didnt know if this had something to do with it?
Thanks.
Owen.
Can anyone help on this please? Are other people's working ok? What software/radio are you using?
tried down grading to radio 2.05 but still not working
I have another kind of problem with BT sharing mode. Probably, it is on the side of laptop, but any suggestion would be nice.
On a WIN XP machine, I do the connection as usual, XP asks me for "Allow to connect", so I click YES. Then it looks like connected, I get DHCP, DNS, GW is set, but i cannot even ping the phone(192.168.0.1), not talking about any internet IP. Bluetooth PAN networking is enabled on XP.
On other laptop, WIN7 x64, the procedure is the same and it works!!! There is just one more confirmation on the phone, something like "Allow internet access to....?" I select yes and all is fine. Same DHCP, same DNS, same GW.
No confirmation about allowing access when paired with XP, probably because there isn't even a try from the computer(as it cannot reach even its own default gw).
BT file transfer works on XP without problems, just TCP/IP no-go. Maybe some firewall(win fw is OFF), hidden process, service, group policy setting...?
Not sure if I should post this question here or somewhere else but since I am using my TMOUS HD2 for remote desktop I decide to put this here.
I tried the remote desktop over my own wifi it works great but just wondering if I can use it over 3G... I tried but doesn't seem to be connecting.
Also does anybody know the list of ports that are blocked on tmous 3g? Thanks a lot!
over 3g don't forget you need to use your external ip address, (I.e not the 192.168.... addresses) and then in the router you need to set up port forwarding from the router to your chosen pc.
been looking for a solution to this for a while. Seems people give out solutions that never work.
I've just done this as a proof to myself, and yes you can do this.
Assuming you have a router, then you need to set up port forwarding from the router to your internal pc, port 3389 TCP.
On the PC, system properties - remote - make sure you choose the middle option.. ' allow connections from computers running any version..'
Then on the phone, you need the data connection active before you start remote desktop, it wont start it itself.
With data connection active, run remote desktop
give it your routers external IP address (not the 192.xxx.xxx.xxx address, , thats your internal address)
no need to fill in user and pass, it will give you the PC's login screen. Domain left blank too.
Note the connection in teh top bar, , edge in one, H in the other. No wifi.
EDIT - if your carrier blocks port 3389 which some apparently do, bypass it by using a different external port.
So in the routersettings you would forward port, say, 3456 external to 3389 internal, and then in remote desktop on the phone, you would put the ip address as (example) 64.38.226.18:3456
samsamuel said:
I've just done this as a proof to myself, and yes you can do this.
Assuming you have a router, then you need to set up port forwarding from the router to your internal pc, port 3389 TCP.
On the PC, system properties - remote - make sure you choose the middle option.. ' allow connections from computers running any version..'
Then on the phone, you need the data connection active before you start remote desktop, it wont start it itself.
With data connection active, run remote desktop
give it your routers external IP address (not the 192.xxx.xxx.xxx address, , thats your internal address)
no need to fill in user and pass, it will give you the PC's login screen. Domain left blank too.
Note the connection in teh top bar, , edge in one, H in the other. No wifi.
EDIT - if your carrier blocks port 3389 which some apparently do, bypass it by using a different external port.
So in the routersettings you would forward port, say, 3456 external to 3389 internal, and then in remote desktop on the phone, you would put the ip address as (example) 64.38.226.18:3456
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Ugh, I just can't get it. I have data connected at all times. I try this, but I use windows XP (which for some reason almost everyone who shows how to use this on the HD2 uses Windows 7). Port forward to my internal IP address. Set up to connect to my external IP address (yeah im on a network). Always gives me those 3 reasons why it can't connect and I never got it to work. I just dont get it.
what i changed from stock rom to get RDP to work
in settings/connection change your data access point from whatever it is currently (write it down) to wap.voicestream.com and try (for me that also worked for skyfire). some ports/protocalls may be blocked from the default access piont.
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Ugh, I just can't get it. I have data connected at all times. I try this, but I use windows XP (which for some reason almost everyone who shows how to use this on the HD2 uses Windows 7). Port forward to my internal IP address. Set up to connect to my external IP address (yeah im on a network). Always gives me those 3 reasons why it can't connect and I never got it to work. I just dont get it.
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Works fine for me all the time. I have XP Pro.
I've set the IP on my computer to be static (192.168.1.199).
I changed my Remote desktop listening port to 3399 (changes in registry and windows firewall. Also change in Antivirus firewall if you have one.)
I have a linksys router. I've set the port forwarding in "Games and Applications" as all requests to port 3399 will be sent to 192.168.1.199.
I open Remote Desktop on my HD2 and point to my external IP address with the port number.
example: 24.123.456.789:3399
Its been working fine for me for a month. Speed is good too.
samsamuel said:
I've just done this as a proof to myself, and yes you can do this.
Assuming you have a router, then you need to set up port forwarding from the router to your internal pc, port 3389 TCP.
On the PC, system properties - remote - make sure you choose the middle option.. ' allow connections from computers running any version..'
Then on the phone, you need the data connection active before you start remote desktop, it wont start it itself.
With data connection active, run remote desktop
give it your routers external IP address (not the 192.xxx.xxx.xxx address, , thats your internal address)
no need to fill in user and pass, it will give you the PC's login screen. Domain left blank too.
Note the connection in teh top bar, , edge in one, H in the other. No wifi.
EDIT - if your carrier blocks port 3389 which some apparently do, bypass it by using a different external port.
So in the routersettings you would forward port, say, 3456 external to 3389 internal, and then in remote desktop on the phone, you would put the ip address as (example) 64.38.226.18:3456
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To you or anyone else who can do this, are yall using Professional Windows OS? or Home?
pro.
remote desktop isnt included in home. (Maybe in home premium, possibly)
there are work arounds, a 3rd party vpn for instance, or there are ways to get remote desktop onto certain home versions.
samsamuel said:
pro.
remote desktop isnt included in home. (Maybe in home premium, possibly)
there are work arounds, a 3rd party vpn for instance, or there are ways to get remote desktop onto certain home versions.
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I use this with Win7 Home Premium, which does not have RDC enabled. However, you can simply patch it to enable RDC:
http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/t/79427.aspx?PageIndex=1
I have no problem RDC to that machine from my HD2 from both in and outside of my network. As mentioned, you need to edit your router settings to enable port forwarding to the machine(s) you are trying to access remotely. I use 3389. The above utility that enables RDC on W7HP also enables port 3389 to get through windows firewall on that machine.
no, still can't get it to work right. Even with Remote VNC workarounds it's still not getting the connection. For some reason, any port checker (even when I configure the router to forward the port to my internal IP) says that the connection is refused. So I dunno wtf it is. I'm guessing either it's Comcast that's blocking this port or the router's messing up, or Tmobile is messing up, but damn it's aggravating as hell finding a solution.
it's not work,I need help
I tried some times Remote Desktop over 3G ,but it's not work,before I connected , Then on the phone, you need the data connection active before you start remote desktop, it wont start it itself.,I actived data connection by use opera browser,and the connection in the top bar,the icon "H" appeared in the top bar,does the Remote Desktop support the connection way of 3G ? please tell me what to do ?thanks a lot ! sorry for my poor english.
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no, still can't get it to work right. Even with Remote VNC workarounds it's still not getting the connection. For some reason, any port checker (even when I configure the router to forward the port to my internal IP) says that the connection is refused. So I dunno wtf it is. I'm guessing either it's Comcast that's blocking this port or the router's messing up, or Tmobile is messing up, but damn it's aggravating as hell finding a solution.
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Try connecting to your home computer from another computer outside. Seems to me that your home computer is not setup to allow RD from outside.
kcaj32 said:
Try connecting to your home computer from another computer outside. Seems to me that your home computer is not setup to allow RD from outside.
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Yes, and phenomenon you should really try to establish the connection first while connected to your home network with your phone, just to make sure everything internal is setup properly before you start messing with getting the external connection to work.
Phenomenon said:
no, still can't get it to work right. Even with Remote VNC workarounds it's still not getting the connection. For some reason, any port checker (even when I configure the router to forward the port to my internal IP) says that the connection is refused. So I dunno wtf it is. I'm guessing either it's Comcast that's blocking this port or the router's messing up, or Tmobile is messing up, but damn it's aggravating as hell finding a solution.
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Your router probably has it's own firewall. Can you connect to your computer through your own network?
So I want to use remote desktop on my TP2 to connect to my laptop at home. I've done all the requirements to allow to use this feature; I've enabled port forwarding in my router settings and I have enabled remote desktop on my laptop's Windows 7 system properties. And on my TP2 I enter my ip address for the "computer" field, my Windows 7 account user name in the "user name" field (I only have 1 account on my laptop and it is admin), and the account password in the "password" field. After all of this, my TP2 will still not connect to my laptop. At this point I am pulling my hair out trying to figure out what I am doing wrong. Can anybody help?
Does your computer has public IP Address?
Yes. I go to www.whatismyip.com and it displays my ip address. I've tried entering this address in the "computer" field as well and nothing.
you'll need to forward port 3389 through any router you may be using (check out portforward.com)
you'll also need to enable RDP connection on the machine through System>Remote.
there are 1001 guides you'll find with a quick google, its not a phone specific thing.
edit: ive previously found that the WM RDP client wont start a 'net connection itself. if you find the same, just do it manually through com manager or check ur mail etc.
Did you forward port 3389 to the internal ip address of your laptop?
Do you have a software firewall on the laptop that may be blocking access?
First try to figure out where the error occurs.
Try to connect to your pc, using an other pc ( from outside )
If it works, it must be a setting in your mobile device.
If pc also doesnt work, it should be a port problem, in that case, try using hamachi..
Oh, and check if you dont have a blocking program, or firewall .. like suggested above
Does my phone need to be connected to wi-fi in order to use remote desktop or will it just use my carrier's data service?
develop1 said:
Does my phone need to be connected to wi-fi in order to use remote desktop or will it just use my carrier's data service?
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it will use any data connection available, no need to connect to wifi if you have data plan activated.
some tips:
1. you must have NAT (port forwarding) configured in your router
2. If your router has public IP address on WAN port, then point 1. is just sufficient if you are on some routed network, than you need to ask your provider, maybe you will be lucky
2.1. (here are network ranges used as private, only for identification)
from 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255
from 172.16.0.0 to 172.31.255.255
from 10.0.0.0 to 10.255.255.255
3. point 1. specification - enable NAT from WAN port to local IP address of your computer, specific port is TCP 3389. Also is good to make a reservation on DHCP server for this PC.
4. you need to enable remote desktop on your PC
4.1. computer properties - remote desktop setup - and its middle line on remote desktop settings
4.2. click "choose users" and check if your account is listed
Thanks alot to everybody's help! Your advise allowed me to get this things working, I really appreciate it. I had the port open and had remote desktop enabled on my computer but the thing that was killing me was I had the windows firewall on and my ESET Smart Security firewall on as well. Once I disabled them I was able to make the connection. What a head ache those firewalls gave me. I thank you all once again for your assistance.
I want to remotely access my PC from TP2, what software do I need to install on my phone?
sheharyar said:
I want to remotely access my PC from TP2, what software do I need to install on my phone?
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The answer depends on what you have available to connect to. Your network (if any exists) and the machine/OS you want to connect to.
If you could let me know the following, I'll see if I can help:
How you machine's connected to the net. (for example, mines something like PC>Router>Cable modem>outside world).
The operating syustem in use on your PC. Specifically please, the edition and version is important to know. Mine's Windows 7 Ultimate, for example.
but, to cut a long story short: if you're not using a home edition of one of the recent windows OSs (XP and later), I'd suggest Remote desktop's the best way to go. There's a .cab knocking around here if you don't already have it on your phone and the PC end's described in the 'Configure Remote Desktop' and 'Configure Your Router' bits of this page: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/northrup_03may16.mspx (ignore the other sections, they're not relevant unless you're running IIS)
enjoy
I have a WIFI Router installed, have a laptop with VISTA ULTIMATE and PC with XP Professional.
I am already able to RD my laptop from my PC.
I want to RDS my laptop from my phone via the same network/WIFI. I think it is pretty simple.
This is what I am doing
I have installed Remote Desktop Mobile
I have connected to WIFI
when I run Remote Desktop Mobile & enter my laptop's name, with username and password and click connect, connecting remains on top and is not connecting it. I am not in any domain, do i have to leave the domain name empty?
if you're not using a domain, leaving it blank's right.
Does it just time out on your phone?
Do you get the same if you try connecting via IP instead of your machine's name?
mad_tunes said:
if you're not using a domain, leaving it blank's right.
Does it just time out on your phone?
Do you get the same if you try connecting via IP instead of your machine's name?
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I am able to connect from my pc.
When I try to connect from my phone either by IP or computer name, it does not even time out, it just remains stuck at Connecting...
Nothing happens after 5 minutes, even no error message appears.
sheharyar said:
I am able to connect from my pc.
When I try to connect from my phone either by IP or computer name, it does not even time out, it just remains stuck at Connecting...
Nothing happens after 5 minutes, even no error message appears.
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Your laptop seems to be configured well ( you can access it using the pc )
So it must be a setting in the phone. You sure it is connected to wifi , maybe it stays on 3g ) Or maybe your laptop only allowes 1 ip to connect ( the pc's ip )
I am even able to connect to my laptop over internet as the port 3389 is fwd.
Do I have to configure anything on my phone other than installing that cab file?
Or maybe the cab file I've installed is corrupt or something, can someone please share the cab file?