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Looks like Sense is alive and running on Gingerbread

Just ran across this article on Engadget and noticed that the pictured device is running a high res version of the Sense browser on Gingerbread, so it does look like we will be getting a ROM soon, ported or official is the question now
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/27/htcs-newest-android-flagship-phone-revealed/
Notice the notification bar has Gingerbread icons
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You got great eyes to see all that.
EDIT: Ok I see it now...
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Can't wait til YOU get your hands on the port OR official version...for another EViO update running Gingie!!
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Yes! Good catch. I was just looking at that. I'm holding off on anything till later this year after seeing that leaked slide from nvidia saying quad cores might show up on phones. That new psp looks cool just because it is (hopefully) gonna be so damn fast.
Swyped from my Evo on steroids.

oh i hope so. this would be nice.

There is no way you can know that and as far as gingerbread icons the only one I can see good enough to make out is the battery icon, and thats not a GB one. In GB the battery is standing up, where in that pic it is laying down like 2.2. And what I'm assuming is the alarm next to the battery it seems more like the old one which is a little bigger than the gingerbread one.
Looking at it again the signal is green, but thats the one one I would say is gingerbread like.

Drewmungus said:
There is no way you can know that and as far as gingerbread icons the only one I can see good enough to make out is the battery icon, and thats not a GB one. In GB the battery is standing up, where in that pic it is laying down like 2.2. And what I'm assuming is the alarm next to the battery it seems more like the old one which is a little bigger than the gingerbread one.
Looking at it again the signal is green, but thats the one one I would say is gingerbread like.
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Just because the icons look like the older ones doesn't mean much because HTC isn't necessarily going to keep the GB icons.
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Beta
if you need a tester. you know I am be happy to test it feed back.
peace

Regardless of whether our not this is true, I hope htc comes out with the 2.3 update soon. but for now, the roms will do..
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Yes! Good catch. I was just looking at that. I'm holding off on anything till later this year after seeing that leaked slide from nvidia saying quad cores might show up on phones. That new psp looks cool just because it is (hopefully) gonna be so damn fast.
Swyped from my Evo on steroids.
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I read yesterday that the quad cores aren't likely to hit the shelves until Christmas. That seems to line up with the way carriers release phones. Roll out the dual cores early this year, and the quad cores for the holidays.

Honestly unless the quad cores offer a significant improvement in power consumption, I'm not sure that it will be that much of an improvement over the dual cores.
The killer feature on all phones, at least at the current level of functionality, is battery life. Put it this way: would you rather have an EVO that was twice as fast (or had twice the data speed, for that matter), or one with a battery that lasted twice as long. I think most people (techies and otherwise) would answer #2.

i don't expect a sense/ginger update from sprint until spring or later. too bad that will be the last official upgrade for the evo!

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i don't expect a sense/ginger update from sprint until spring or later. too bad that will be the last official upgrade for the evo!
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Yeah but official updates are so lame
Lol we've got better stuff than they will ever have
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Those are froyo icons, the horizontal battery is orange, the big alarm clock....yea.

For those looking to try GB now, CM7 nightlies are highly functional now. Just the usual no 4G and no HDMI but if you rarely use those, may be worth playing with. I have been running for over a month now it its great.

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For those looking to try GB now, CM7 nightlies are highly functional now. Just the usual no 4G and no HDMI but if you rarely use those, may be worth playing with. I have been running for over a month now it its great.
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Wait. You have been running nightlies for over a month? So that means what? You only had a week or less to try cm7 .... each nightly changes. Run a certain nightly for a month then come back and praise it.
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novanosis85 said:
Wait. You have been running nightlies for over a month? So that means what? You only had a week or less to try cm7 .... each nightly changes. Run a certain nightly for a month then come back and praise it.
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Each nightly doesn't really change all that much, development has been really slow on cm7 lately. But I know what you're trying to say, even if it was unnecessary and makes you look like a hater.

MOST nightly updates improves on previous builds...occasionally something gets borked...but that's why you:
nandroid your "last" stable build
nandroid your "last" stable ROM
OR
you don't touch the nightlies until you get stable builds...then again...lots of us like the bleeding edge or we won't be going thru these forums as it is...
Gingerbread is cool...and the nightlies are very stable at this point...worthy to be a daily driver. Whether you update nightly to nightly that is up to you.
Lets not flame those that are praising the nightlies...especially when they feel that the nightlies are daily driver worthy to THEM.

I'm hoping we will get an official OTA within the next month or two, or at least a source release from HTC before then. HTC is by far the best manufacturer about pushing out updates. Samsung and LG just straight don't care, and Motorola is slow. I read an article on Engadget a few weeks ago about how HTC has been very good about supporting it's older devices, updating half of them to Froyo last year. Ah, found it: http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/13/...htc-most-eager-to-provide-android-2-2-updat/#
I'm loving the current gingerbread roms, using evervolv right now, but I'm really missing 4G, properly working GPS, and sense in general haha.

Praise all you want in the cm7 thread.
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Rom Recommendation - Girl

So my girlfriend has been complaining how she is getting a bit bored of her Droid Incredible so i thought I thought i would come to you guys for some suggestions on what rom I should throw on for her that'll breath a bit of new life into her phone. I was thinking of just throwing on Cyanogenmod 7 on it, but after checking out the Dev forum i was BLOWN away with just how much you guys have to choose from. ( kinda jelous )
But is there anything better for her? She has no tech skills and will not really want anything to tinker with. But I'm think a new rom will stop her complaining till its time for an upgrade. So what do you guys suggest? Should I just throw on Cyanogenmod or one of the 100 other ones?
We both thank you.
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I'd say CM7 then look up some girly themes she could switch between. If she isn't too attached to the sense UI it should be a pretty easy transition.

Cm7 would probably be a good choice if for no other reason,stability. That's not saying that other roms aren't stable. I really enjoy sense roms but she may not like those.
I would also throw incredikernel on her phone so if she needs to overclock or get better battery life, she will be able to.
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My wife is running Kingdom Sense stock, it's nice eye candy. My wife has not complained about anything yet, sense 3.0 aspects are really nice. Watching a few other builds too, they are making progress.

Miui because it's very pretty, fast, and stable! it adds a new feel to the phone, kind of like getting a new phone.
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TheWhiteBandito said:
Miui because it's very pretty, fast, and stable! it adds a new feel to the phone, kind of like getting a new phone.
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Agreed, your GF will probably like MIUI with all the unique and elegant themes. CM7 is another popular choice that shouldn't be overlooked.
Here's a pic of a couple of themes for MIUI:
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and here is the rest of the thread, which includes more images as well as video's on the Android OS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117981
(( FYI, this was originally created by Chinese developers, however everything as far as I know has been translated into English. ))

I just flashed MIUI for the first time and an impressed. For sense based rom, can't go wrong with Sky Raider. There is a maintenance release coming out soon for it.

Try Skyraider 4.0
Stable, and everything works, have been running it for over a week.

Alex2x3 said:
But is there anything better for her? She has no tech skills and will not really want anything to tinker with. But I'm think a new rom will stop her complaining till its time for an upgrade. So what do you guys suggest? Should I just throw on Cyanogenmod or one of the 100 other ones?
We both thank you.
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Ill say you can try supper z since she is already dealing with sense and that rom is a Z based rom.. is very stable and fast and has a lot of new things that the sense 1.0 lack of.. an example is the camera is really better than the one found in the stock and although I have try almost all the roms in this forum I keep going back to this one...
thats my opinion... hope you find something good to make your GF happy..

Being a long time CM7 user, I flashed SkyRaider 4.0 over the weekend and have to say that for a Sense ROM, it's VERY nice. Smooth, fast and stable.

Show her some screenshots of each rom or skin
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Been using Skyraider for the past month and it has been great, no issues. But if she is bored with the stock phone, skyraider is not going to seem majorly different. Lots of cool stuff from a tech perspective, but a non-techie user looking for a new phone of sorts... CM7 is going to have a different feel with a more vanilla android interface and gingerbread. Also a Seidio 1750mah slim battery is a great breath of life into an older incredible. Battery life is always a happy maker.
Cheers,
Rob
My wife loves her iphone, which makes it mainly not my problem ;-)

I recently picked up a 3500mAh battery and I love it. It feels stronger as well
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Thanks alot guys youve all been really helpful. Im sure one of these will satisfy her needs.
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Take her to the "post your screenshot" thread and the "skins for Sense 2.0" thread, and whichever one she points out as her fave just get that
***... of course, you'll have to look carefully at what rom supports what, but thats not hard

I would have to say a rpm such as Uber Gingersense. The features and integration as well as user-friendly feel Sense 3.0 brings is unmatched.
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Miui all the way!
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I would say MIUI or stock. For me My wife is confused enough by the stock one and I dont want to mess her up any more then she already is. But I would probably put MIUI on since it is most like the iPhone which is very very very simplistic (why I would not ever move to an iphone). But it would also make her feel like she has an iphone and can compare with her friends.
My 2 cents.
SoBBie

Anyone else not liking ICS?

To me it seems like they've gone back a step in terms of aesthetics, compared to honeycomb for example. It just looks boring.
What do you think?
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I dislike the colour blue. Therefore I'm not liking ics right now either.
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Simple and fast. That's the real deal.
And color is certainly not an excuse.

Who said anything about colour?
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I'm waiting for a Camera fix before trying it out although the simplicity is a real plus point.

hassanhassan said:
Who said anything about colour?
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acidspider, just above my first post.

actually, i thought that ICS was suppose to be slower than GB and Froyo, haven't tested it out but...what do you guys think?

ICS is so much better, don't kid yourselves. Everything is much more fluid. I actually miss certain sense elements, as I was an HTC guy.
Fillyo
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I have gone back to cm7
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The ics feels a little young..just organising contacts was ....i cant find a easy way to delete a contact from the list. Ics needs work and more tweaks
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acidspider said:
I dislike the colour blue. Therefore I'm not liking ics right now either.
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WoWzeerS! Blue seems to be the most popular colour in modding. (Android have noticed). Good luck with that.

I like it. The ROM needs a lot of work still, but it's still very good as it is. I really need the camera to work for me to switch to it permanently, but I've found it fast, responsive and plenty of cool features.

I'm waiting with ICS until HTC has released their Sense for it.
@acidspider
Maybe with Sense there will be less blue in there

Just a few days ago I flashed ICS and man, I'm never going back to cm7. I don't even care camera doesn't work at the moment since to me it feels like finally it's taking advantage of the power. CM7 after a month just because laggy and so slow.
Using it with Launcher 360, it's fast, fluid and I'm lovin it

I wasn't too impressed to begin with, but when I delved into the new features I started to get more and more impressed. I love ICS.
The one thing I do find poor is some of the system icons, the browser one in particular is a pretty awful design imo.
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Ew.
This is how it should be done:

To me, ICS is much better than CM7 or any other ROM for that matter. Yea, there are a few little kinks that I would like to see fixed (Like the easier way to delete a contact), but we all have to remember that ICS was released in October. Thats not a long time for a ROM to become "Perfect" in the consumer's eyes.
I think ICS will become a VERY stable ROM, not just on the Desire HD/Inspire 4G, but every other phone that has the opportunity to taste it.
@OriginalPoster Honeycomb was designed for Tablets, and Tablets only (Although I'm sure you knew that) Tablets are designed faster and with more capabilities than most smartphones, so Honeycomb is probably more fluid in UI and design.

ICS+sense 3.5 is very stylish, ICS AOSP feels empty and minimalistic, but yes I'm not so fond of the tron theme feels a bit gimmicky
despite what everyone says sense will always save you a lot of effort and apps and unify the way everything looks, it was starting to feel outdated but I think sense 3.5 refreshed things again, also they to have improved their coding efforts considerably sense 3.5 is lighting fast and stable

anyone tried playing gta 3 on ICS? i'm getting lags on no matter which rom i try without OC.

I love blue. Blue is my favourite color. Although, I somewhat like MIUI better than ICS. Even CyanogenMod... Damn, there's something about CyanogenMod that makes me like it, even though it's stock GB. Every time I flash CyanogenMod, I remember there were better ROMs (like MIUI), and I flash back, lol.
ICS... I tried it on my old Desire (AMOLED) and on the Desire HD (LCD) as well. Damn, it was looking FANTASTIC on the Desire. Now... not so much... it's not as bright and vivid
Anyway, I'll stick to MIUI for the moment. When ICS will be ready...

Have to disagree
ICS is beautiful. It is very consistent unlike Gingerbread, which is very patchy
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HTC announces ICS for desire HD, desire S and incredible S.

This only leaves samsung and motorola as not paying attention to their weaker phones.
HTC, LG and sony ericsson all giving most of their phones ICS.
And yet samsung wont give it to galaxy S? Well you say it's older than desire HD? Well the galaxy S plus and galaxy W are not and are actually more powerful than these HTC phones.
It's always arrogance that leads to the doom of the leader. Samsung really has to get their act straight if they want to remain android leader, there is simply no justification now for not giving ICS to their single core devices.

So, who cares?
Look around, there is plenty of ICS ROMs to install for SGS. And most of them are stable enough for daily use.
When you tasted some ROM, that is not Samsung-based, you're never going back. At least I'm not.
So, I really don't give a slightest f**k if ICS won't be official for SGS.
This is probably still the largest dev community for any of the android based phones, and although the phone is almost two years old, there is still a lot of development going on. I'm happy with my SGS, I'm quite happy with Samsung as the company itself too.

opica said:
So, who cares?
Look around, there is plenty of ICS ROMs to install for SGS. And most of them are stable enough for daily use.
When you tasted some ROM, that is not Samsung-based, you're never going back. At least I'm not.
So, I really don't give a slightest f**k if ICS won't be official for SGS.
This is probably still the largest dev community for any of the android based phones, and although the phone is almost two years old, there is still a lot of development going on. I'm happy with my SGS, I'm quite happy with Samsung as the company itself too.
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Lets not kid ourselves please. Once you get official OS you get even better ROMs.
Sure galaxy S is 2 years old but S plus isnt and doesnt even have that good ROMs so what about the S+ users?
Samsung is the most profitable android manufacturer, there is simply no excuse for this period.

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Once you get official OS you get even better ROMs.
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Wh00t?
As I've written: once I've tasted aosp-based ROMs, I never went back to Samsungs' one. And I'm pretty sure a large number of users here would agree with me.
p.s.
maybe RIL sw is somehow better from the start in an official ROM if a new version of OS was released, but it gets polished anyways
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you should really have posted here

I don't care about Plus or W, at the time I bought my S the HTC choice was the Desire. It's not getting ICS either and even if it did I would still prefer SGS hardware and dev community.

haloimplant said:
I don't care about Plus or W, at the time I bought my S the HTC choice was the Desire. It's not getting ICS either and even if it did I would still prefer SGS hardware and dev community.
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The Desire never even got a working Gingerbread build...

CM9 is awesome,
no crappy Samsung's ROM anymore.

Russians drilled down to the arctic lake!!!!!!!!
And this is common in same way as the @OP's post...

But I care, i want to have a stock rom ICS than cook rom,
my next phone is not samsung.

See for you guys its okay, for people like me with the galaxy s 4g, we are screwed. We don't have enough developers to port ics. I still hope that we will get cm7 or miui but ics, lets not gonna kid ourselves on getting that for his phone.
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The choice when I bought the phone was HTC Desire or SGS. Boy am I glad I went for the SGS! Stop getting your knickers in a twist, there are plenty of ICS options. I've been running CM9 since the beginning of January with virtually no problems.
My next phone probably will be a Samsung, or whichever has the biggest development scene.

trislr said:
But I care, i want to have a stock rom ICS than cook rom,
my next phone is not samsung.
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I agree with you, some people here don't understand greatness of stock ROMs

This isn't even a small argument talking about GS. But indeed the Plus version should receive ICS. Can't say that LG is better then Samsung at updating their phones, I mean sure the 2x gets it, but it's only one year old. The DHD is the only older phone getting ICS here. Nice move from HTC. I just can't say Samsung is worse than HTC at updating their phones.
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Samsung galaxy s said:
This isn't even a small argument talking about GS. But indeed the Plus version should receive ICS. Can't say that LG is better then Samsung at updating their phones, I mean sure the 2x gets it, but it's only one year old. The DHD is the only older phone getting ICS here. Nice move from HTC. I just can't say Samsung is worse than HTC at updating their phones.
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Samsung is now officially worse than HTC at updating unless they update the galaxy S plus and galaxy W.
Even the $200 xperia mini is getting ICS which is from every aspect inferior to the samsung phones not getting ICS.
LG is also bringing ICS to optimus black which is the weakest phone officially supported for ICS. Ofcourse LG's ROMs actually suck but thats another story.

You guys are really too greedy. I have a SGS+ and I would love to have some custom development (CM, ICS).
We have just now a CM 7 port in work and it will take a long time to finish it, before even thinking of CM9, ICS (no graphic driver, how the hell should the ports work flawlessly)?
Our phone isn't even 1 year old, so it's just twice frustrating for us: no custom development, no official updates.
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Official ICS Officially DeBlurred

Motorola ICS UI review: this isn't the Blur we used to know
Looks like the official ICS ROM will be mostly vanilla. With such a light touch and now being owned by Google, maybe they'll go full vanilla in the future.

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We already have a few ICS discussion threads, you could have known that months ago by reading one of them.

This thread title is misleading. Offical release date is most likely Q4 2013.

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This thread title is misleading. Offical release date is most likely Q4 2013.
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No, I'm pretty sure it's next Tuesday.
MB860, CM7.2.0, Faux 026b1 1Ghz

And I stand by my original statement that it will be released on Friday.

Jelly Bean right after, on Saturday.

I am not sure if they would provide a vanilla UI for ATrix like we see in Razr.

Semseddin said:
I am not sure if they would provide a vanilla UI for ATrix like we see in Razr.
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I think yes. It's cheaper and easier to use the same code.

Consider we're talking about motorola. That UI is for OMAP devices and Atrix isn't equipped with OMAP. We'll see all together.

I doubt the UI will be different just because the processor is. With it so deblurred, you gotta wonder why they even bother redoing any part of it. They can just include the bloat they want as apps without messing with the framework. Maybe the carriers are insisting on crippling some features.

Code is written in high level programming language like C++.

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I doubt the UI will be different just because the processor is. With it so deblurred, you gotta wonder why they even bother redoing any part of it. They can just include the bloat they want as apps without messing with the framework. Maybe the carriers are insisting on crippling some features.
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Its the same case as why the Photon and Atrix got a different, uglier and sluggish Blur instead of the one that came with all the Motorola phones equipped with OMAP4 chips.
Heck, the ICS Blur we see on our Atrix might even be the original ugly Android4 blur that is available for download everywhere.
Sent from that Atrix.

tatperson said:
Its the same case as why the Photon and Atrix got a different, uglier and sluggish Blur instead of the one that came with all the Motorola phones equipped with OMAP4 chips.
Heck, the ICS Blur we see on our Atrix might even be the original ugly Android4 blur that is available for download everywhere.
Sent from that Atrix.
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Agreed.
Heck the launcher on the initial Froyo builds was so much more faster!
And then the rest of the Motorola phones comes out, and guess what ? Atrix is suddenly sluggish? I mean seriously?

I actually complained about screen switching being TOO fast on the Froyo build lol... ooops.
GB update was weird for me, it worked GREAT for a long time, then it started getting buggy and sluggish, I factory reset it like 4 times with new blur accounts etc, and nothing helped, finally rom'd it the other day and couldn't be happier..
Got to figure out a solution for webtop though, I used that a LOT.

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Got to figure out a solution for webtop though, I used that a LOT.
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If reports are correct (that Webtop has been replaced with tablet mode plus some candy), then the only solution that is rational is to run a headless Linux disttro and RDC into it.
Even if all the bits of code needed to spin up X are opensource, it is going to be a huge pain for somebody to port it over to ICS. And some items (such as the kernel mod that mux's inputs to both X and 'droid) I do not beleive are avaiable.
Using an RDC aproach makes it is fairly easy to put a distro of your choice on the Atrix though, so that is a plus.
To me the question would be if I was to use a full screen RDC to an 'ux desktop, or just bring up a window to the app that I want. Really need to see how it all plays after we get the real Tegra drivers for ICS out.

after many Tuesday, still waiting for ICS
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maggedo said:
after many Tuesday, still waiting for ICS
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Right, Motorola is testing our patient. Always look forward to next Tuesday!

fuuuu.... i think , that ics officialy released...

lol
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gofgalaxy said:
fuuuu.... i think , that ics officialy released...
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:laugh: same here