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Flash a ROM or not?

Ok so I recently ordered my first tablet, I went with the xoom since I wanted fast updates. So myquestion is, is there a difference between stock honeycomb compared to the popular ROMs in the development section?
I should have my xoom in a few days hopefully, I was originally going to flash a kernel to OC. I was however questioning on whether to flash a ROM or not. From experience what will you guys recommended, flash a custom ROM or not?
Thanks
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jzun223 said:
Ok so I recently ordered my first tablet, I went with the xoom since I wanted fast updates. So myquestion is, is there a difference between stock honeycomb compared to the popular ROMs in the development section?
I should have my xoom in a few days hopefully, I was originally going to flash a kernel to OC. I was however questioning on whether to flash a ROM or not. From experience what will you guys recommended, flash a custom ROM or not?
Thanks
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I think your big question is whether to root or not. Personally, I would root and install the solarnz recovery version for CWM and then flash Team Tiamat Rom l.l. It's fantastic! It's so much smoother than stock. The tiamat kernels are great too. There are some other nice choices as well, and more are on the way. Xoom developers are the greatest!

Very hard to brick the root if you follow instructions
just dont bother relocking it shouldnt ever need to relock it in the first place

i put tiamat 1.1 on my Xoom when it came out and it has completely fixed most issues I had with the Xoom. SD card support, no more lag, and extremely fast boots (with a nice new boot animation). When you flash the rom make sure you get setcpu off the market. You can change the CPU speed on the fly! I keep mine at 1.5 ghz because 1.7 has rebooted on me a few times.

I am running the Tiamat 1.1 rom as well. I have had very few if any issues. SD card support, overclocking, stability, root access, etc...... I liked my Xoom when I purchased it, I LOVE my rooted and rommed XOOM!
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Stock or custom?

I am getting tired of waiting for the stock 3.1 rom now so I am starting to think about using one of the custom roms.
Have there been any performance and function comparisons between the stock rom and the custom roms?
Or do you have any good arguments either way?

The two most popular appear to be Virtuous Picasso and Virtuous Galaxy. I have been using the 1.08 version of the former for sometime and have had no issues. I thether, have gps, bluetooth, WiFi all w/out issue. If your rooted, get wild and flash them both; see which you Luke better.

I like virtuous galaxy for the the touchwiz, but there were too many broken things. Exchange didn't work, couldn't access files on my external sd card (although apps like google music seemed to be able to) and my usb keyboard didn't work. Virtuous galaxy seems to work without any issues.

I've tried them all so far, and they all have pro's and con's. They also all have bugs, which is only to be expected.
Currently, I'm running stock and, to be honest, kinda prefer it. Though I *have* rooted and added a few tweaks...

willyampz said:
I like virtuous galaxy for the the touchwiz, but there were too many broken things. Exchange didn't work, couldn't access files on my external sd card (although apps like google music seemed to be able to) and my usb keyboard didn't work. Virtuous galaxy seems to work without any issues.
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You started off saying virtuous galaxy had too many broken things, then went on to say virtuous galaxy seems to work without issues? Maybe it's too early and I'm reading it wrong in my barely awake state, but could you clarify please? Lol

vanisleguy1976 said:
You started off saying virtuous galaxy had too many broken things, then went on to say virtuous galaxy seems to work without issues? Maybe it's too early and I'm reading it wrong in my barely awake state, but could you clarify please? Lol
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I don't mean to speak for willy but I think what he was saying is that at first, Virtuous Galaxy was nice but had too many broken features but after the release this past weekend, most of the bugs are fixed.
I am using Primee which is the Asus Transformer ROM with some of the Acer items left intact. I have tried Virtuous Galaxy and UI is beautiful but I was getting a barely perceptible lag opening and closing the app drawer even after OC to 1500 and it was bugging me. I think the problem could have been one of the Samsung widgets.
I normally recommend loading a custom rom if you feel comfortable. I rooted my HTC Magic back in the early days of Android and have never looked back.

wahlis said:
I am getting tired of waiting for the stock 3.1 rom now so I am starting to think about using one of the custom roms.
Have there been any performance and function comparisons between the stock rom and the custom roms?
Or do you have any good arguments either way?
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You should go for 3.1 stock (official acer update), works like butter and fixes problems that custom roms still have (like cell stanby) unless they are based on 3.1 stock (I'm still waiting )
Update to 3.1 stock Acer Official Update
No wipe needed or acer recovery/cwm, you don't lose your data, but it's highly recommended to backup and use recovery/cwm, through again not necesary.
Here is a change log (what's new/changed) to see if it's worth, if you do update please share with me in that thread what's new and changed so we can inform, share and encourage pleople to update to 3.1, plus if you do it now you get new OTA Acer_ A500_4.010.30_COM_GEN1 (I sound like a salesman ) who knows for how long they will keep the update

Justray said:
You should go for 3.1 stock (official acer update), works like butter and fixes problems that custom roms still have (like cell stanby) unless they are based on 3.1 stock (I'm still waiting )
Update to 3.1 stock Acer Official Update
No wipe needed or acer recovery/cwm, you don't lose your data, but it's highly recommended to backup and use recovery/cwm, through again not necesary.
Here is a change log (what's new/changed) to see if it's worth, if you do update please share with me in that thread what's new and changed so we can inform, share and encourage pleople to update to 3.1, plus if you do it now you get new OTA Acer_ A500_4.010.30_COM_GEN1 (I sound like a salesman ) who knows for how long they will keep the update
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My question is,after read almost all pages of the threads about this;does this go for all devices?I have a emea_gen3..sorry if i'm being a Noob now.
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Thanks for all the advice. I think I'll wait a while longer for the stock now. It doesn't sound like the custom roms are the kind of miracle upgrades I got to my Hero and Desire phones yet.
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booze78 said:
My question is,after read almost all pages of the threads about this;does this go for all devices?I have a emea_gen3..sorry if i'm being a Noob now.
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Yes it works, I went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1, everything works fine, updated from .22 to .30 from OTA.
wahlis said:
Thanks for all the advice. I think I'll wait a while longer for the stock now. It doesn't sound like the custom roms are the kind of miracle upgrades I got to my Hero and Desire phones yet.
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Actually the update posted IS official, Acer one, right now those with that version are getting OTA .30 update, so as far as I know that's stock unless you mean out-of-the-box as stock.

i meant to say virtuous picasso seems to work without issues and tried to edit it after.

Justray said:
Yes it works, I went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1, everything works fine, updated from .22 to .30 from OTA.
Actually the update posted IS official, Acer one, right now those with that version are getting OTA .30 update, so as far as I know that's stock unless you mean out-of-the-box as stock.
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Yessss,it worked.Lost root only..
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booze78 said:
Yessss,it worked.Lost root only..
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and you can re-root
Please post here anything new you find, new issues, fixed issues, software and experience related please

Just don't forget to back up!

@Justray, you say : "Yes it works, I went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1, everything works fine, updated from .22 to .30 from OTA."
How do you procede to go from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1?
My machine is COM_GEN1 so I'm happy. My sister who got hers in Denmark is EMEA_GEN3 and is still stuck with firmware 1.x (Android 3.0.1)... Is there a step-by-step instructions for going to COM_GEN1 for her machine?
I suspect I can then download the latest firmware manually from : code.google.com/p/acer-a500/downloads/list or use OTA like my machine?
Thanks,
Gilles.

ggravier said:
@Justray, you say : "Yes it works, I went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1, everything works fine, updated from .22 to .30 from OTA."
How do you procede to go from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1?
My machine is COM_GEN1 so I'm happy. My sister who got hers in Denmark is EMEA_GEN3 and is still stuck with firmware 1.x (Android 3.0.1)... Is there a step-by-step instructions for going to COM_GEN1 for her machine?
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I too went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1. Here is the basic low-down as to how I went about it:
* Install Acer Recovery from Market and use it to install clockworkmod.
* Download the COM_GEN1 ROM from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176632 thread.
* Use Acer ROM Decrypter to decrypt the .zip file and extract the update.zip from there.
* Rename the update.zip to something like e.g. AcerROMcomgen1.zip and copy it on your SD card. It's important that it is on the SD, not internal storage.
* Turn off your tablet, then turn it on while keeping the volume button pressed down until you see white text appear on the tablet screen's top-left corner.
* Use clockwordmod to first make a full backup for just-in-case. I really mean it: do a full backup. You never know if you might need it later!
* Then format cache, format data/factory reset, then install zip from SD.
* Reboot.
As for navigating in clockwordmod: you use the volume button to go up or down in menus, and power button to select the menu item.

[Q] anyone tried Thor Transformer Revolver Port?

anyone tried this ROM already on A500 ?
Thor Transformer Revolver 3.2.1 Port V3

proxonic said:
anyone tried this ROM already on A500 ?
Thor Transformer Revolver 3.2.1 Port V3
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It's been updated to V4. It seems pretty solid but that's less than 24 hours of usage. I think I've got OC to 1.5 or 1.6, no problems. As noted at his site, Auto Brightness does not work. I'm interested in GPS so not sure if that is supported or not. So far, so good with the ROM. I may give Taboonay another go, but feel comfortable with Thor's ROM. Also, Netflix does not work. I don't think it found it on the Market but I tried restoring from a backup and got an FC. I believe this is a known prob with HC 3.2.

i tried it, one hour later I was back on Taboonay v.2.1b.
also, when leaving it, wipe everything atleast 5 times, or your wallpaper wont work no matter what

leo72793 said:
i tried it, one hour later I was back on Taboonay v.2.1b.
also, when leaving it, wipe everything atleast 5 times, or your wallpaper wont work no matter what
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Interesting. I tried Taboonay and didn't like it. I had some issues with OC with Thor's and am now giving PRIMEE P9-5a a go. It's better but thinking I may not stick with it. Perhaps I'll give Taboonay another go.

I did not like it at first either. Once I oc it was better. Make sure you use the 2.1b version.
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Thor ROM updated to v4.1

looking335 said:
Interesting. I tried Taboonay and didn't like it. I had some issues with OC with Thor's and am now giving PRIMEE P9-5a a go. It's better but thinking I may not stick with it. Perhaps I'll give Taboonay another go.
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I tried this too, but to my dismay when i reverted to my back up of Taboonay 2.1b, I lost root priviledges!!!!!!!! Unable to access the cwm, or anything that involves root. I have been searching for hours now for my fix. To no avail.

Wipe all partitions and dalvik before restore. It works.
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Im stuck without su priviledges now. No cwm recovery, no acer recovery.
Im at a loss on how to fix this.
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are you able to get into cwm recovery by pushing power and volume down buttons during bootup?
if yes - just put some 3.1 rom on your sd card and flash with it.
honeyvilain 1.05a was for me great choice.
proxonic

No, i tried vol up and pow and vol down and pow. No luck either way....
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Edit: i tried it again, this time holding it longer, or maybe holding my mouth the right way... either way cwm is working now

leo72793 said:
I did not like it at first either. Once I oc it was better. Make sure you use the 2.1b version.
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Thanks, I did try it (twice) with the 2.1b. I've tried pretty much all of the HC 3.2 releases minus the minimal custom ROMs but seem to like Falcon Acer HC 3.2. I noticed some oddities when I maxed out OC so running at 1.5 seems to make for a solid ROM. I didn't have a chance to fully test GPS. I'm using richard's kernal but may try thor's.
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Rainbowbright081 said:
Im stuck without su priviledges now. No cwm recovery, no acer recovery.
Im at a loss on how to fix this.
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I would:
1) Root your device with the tools already out there (I used ioniaroot)
2) Download Acer Recovery from Market and install CWM through that. Unless it has been updated, it will not give you the latest CWM, which you can download, install on your SD card, and flash from CWM
Keep us posted

So, I simply flashed another Rom. After of course figuring out that my recovery was still there.
All is well again!
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Yeah, had the same issue when flashing my recovery image back to taboonay. Had to actually reflash the original taboonay rom and thor kernal. The recovery loses root for some reason.
Unfortunately, Revolver lacks 501 support, even after messing with the build.prop and an additional lib file. And Thor doesn't have a 501 to play with.
Looked promising though, a little more responsive than taboonay.

Rainbowbright081 said:
So, I simply flashed another Rom. After of course figuring out that my recovery was still there.
All is well again!
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Rainbowbright, glad you back in action with your tablet. It seems thor has released an update to this ROM so very tempted to give it a whack this weekend, though I am really enjoying Falcon's Acer HC 3.2 ROM.
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Moscow Desire said:
Yeah, had the same issue when flashing my recovery image back to taboonay. Had to actually reflash the original taboonay rom and thor kernal. The recovery loses root for some reason.
Unfortunately, Revolver lacks 501 support, even after messing with the build.prop and an additional lib file. And Thor doesn't have a 501 to play with.
Looked promising though, a little more responsive than taboonay.
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Interesting you say that about Taboonay. I was trying to figure out why I didn't stick with it given its popularity and remembered that was my experience as well. I have a USB 3G pay-as-you-go modem and have read those devices are supported, so I opted for the 500.

Do give latest Revolver a try for your ICS woes

Been pretty vocal about ICS troubles, to the point of downgrading to HC (using Revolver 3.11). Well, after .24 upgrade, decided to give ICS a try. Thankfully, there is a new Revolver with .24 integrated, pre-rooted and all.
Backed up my HC install, JIC and went for it. Been stable for a few days, no RR or SOD ... so if you're at the wits end, do give it a try. Sometimes, those SODs/RR have a pesky habit of rearing their ugly butts weeks after installs, but it is all good for now and I will deal with issues when/if they arise.
As usual, if you have apps with lotsa of settings that you want to retain, use Titanium to make the post-flash-app-reinstall-dash easier

Just curious.. beside the .24 integrated. What significant changes, features or feeling having Revolver running?
I've been running rooted stock ICS with CWM installed and pretty happy with it under guever's awesome kernel..
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I dont see anything uber special in there. If u have something that is 100%, stick with it .. For me, it was an ez flash with everything included in there, so I won't have to root it etc.

VZW 7.7 ics approved!!

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/10/05/verizon-approves-ice-cream-sandwich-update-for-galaxy-tab-7-7/

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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/10/05/verizon-approves-ice-cream-sandwich-update-for-galaxy-tab-7-7/
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Frankly, I never thought that I would see this day. If I'm rooted, do I need to unroot to get update? Anyone know? Is there a download?

Unbelievable. Better (real) late than never.

Unbelievable indeed. And just in time. I have about 11 days left before I need to return my tablet to verizon for refund. I can hold out to see if this update improves things enough.
Can someone make a debloated ROM of this ? Will developers make use of this to improve the terrible performance of CM9/CM10 type builds?

I pray to god this kills most of the lag. So much lag on hc.
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How about CWM users?
Run Odin to flash the update (and, perhaps, lose root temporarily) or try reverting to stock using Electron73's method and hope for the best?

TonyBigs said:
How about CWM users?
Run Odin to flash the update (and, perhaps, lose root temporarily) or try reverting to stock using Electron73's method and hope for the best?
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Good question. I plan on trying to use the stock nandroid in this section to get back to stock rom and flashing back to stock recovery and unrooting, and hoping it comes in.
Unless someone can make an odin ??

Dang it, came to XDA to post this!
This is one of the signs of the apocalypse!
(Now where's Jelly Bean! Yeah right!)

About fkin time. My only concern is : With the tab 2 7.0 on Verizon having a locked boot loader, does this update bring the same? I know I will wait until others update to see.
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Electron73's nandroid does leave behind "Superuser". I also think that "Uno" and "Dead Space" .apk's need to be in "preinstall'.

Nice Just got the Tab yesterday and ICS is ready any day now. This update is really needed. My Nexus 7 is so much faster than gt. I hope the speed has more to do with the OS than the Chip

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Electron73's nandroid does leave behind "Superuser". I also think that "Uno" and "Dead Space" .apk's need to be in "preload'.
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I have a nandroid that's before the FD01 update, I could restore it and then wipe data/factory reset it . It will leave superuser behind, but ginger break works to unroot it. I don't really have a place to upload it tho. But I have used that nandroid more than once to test out making an Odin flashable system image (which I have yet to succeed at)
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ice0901 said:
Nice Just got the Tab yesterday and ICS is ready any day now. This update is really needed. My Nexus 7 is so much faster than gt. I hope the speed has more to do with the OS than the Chip
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Oh yeah. Those of us who have been using Locerra's CWM 9 & 10 or Paranoid Android have noticed lots faster speeds, bootup, general usage, internet, etc. I hope Samsung/Verizon do not ruin the ICS for this update.

I have run into a problem restoring to stock. I forgot to make a nandroid backup of my original stock, so I am using the one posted in the i815 thread in the general form.
I unzipped the .7z file and it has a folder with the date in it.
I placed this folder with the files inside on my SDcard AND my internal SDcard under
\clockworkmod\backups\2012-05-06.22.48.58\**
(the actual files are in the 2012 folder, not a folder in a folder)
And I am getting the error:
can not open directory, no files found etc.
What am I doing wrong here? Wrong version CWM maybe?
Update: I flashed an older CWM (5.0.2.7) from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1470896 and same error:
Couldn't open directory.
No files found.
The files are there!!
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Gilbot said:
I have a nandroid that's before the FD01 update, I could restore it and then wipe data/factory reset it . It will leave superuser behind, but ginger break works to unroot it. I don't really have a place to upload it tho. But I have used that nandroid more than once to test out making an Odin flashable system image (which I have yet to succeed at)
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I suppose you could make a torrent?
Hopefully someone will chime in and offer to host your nandroid.
I have downloaded the nandroid from the beginning of this thread and I cannot get cwm to recognize it.

I barely use my gt 7.7 and it hurts because I have the monthly subscription... My nexus 7 is insanely smooth running stock...it is literally night and day between the 2. I had a transformer prime with ics and it was not as smooth as my nexus 7. However, anything beats honey comb.. as much as I used to like the cereal, the OS turned me off with the horrendous lag. I think ICS will run better on 7.7, but I doubt u will get the same smoothness as your N7
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I assume that someone will need to extract the updated radios from ics update, for cm10 users to flash. Then the developers fix cm10 to talk to them before we could get working data? Just asking to be sure I understand what future may bring.
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ice0901 said:
Nice Just got the Tab yesterday and ICS is ready any day now. This update is really needed. My Nexus 7 is so much faster than gt. I hope the speed has more to do with the OS than the Chip
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I barely use my gt 7.7 and it hurts because I have the monthly subscription... My nexus 7 is insanely smooth running stock...it is literally night and day between the 2. I had a transformer prime with ics and it was not as smooth as my nexus 7. However, anything beats honey comb.. as much as I used to like the cereal, the OS turned me off with the horrendous lag. I think ICS will run better on 7.7, but I doubt u will get the same smoothness as your N7
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I have to agree the N7 stock makes the 7.7 look broke as a joke. I have tried CM9 and CM10 on my i815 and the N7 blows it away in smoothness

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I barely use my gt 7.7 and it hurts because I have the monthly subscription... My nexus 7 is insanely smooth running stock...it is literally night and day between the 2. I had a transformer prime with ics and it was not as smooth as my nexus 7. However, anything beats honey comb.. as much as I used to like the cereal, the OS turned me off with the horrendous lag. I think ICS will run better on 7.7, but I doubt u will get the same smoothness as your N7
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I will settle for near nexus. I need data and I doubt the rumors of a 3g nexus are trure. If I here more about a 3g nexus before my return window is up then this will be returned. I love the colors and higher brightness but the nexus is very good and getting support from xda,app developers and google
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okashira said:
I have to agree the N7 stock makes the 7.7 look broke as a joke. I have tried CM9 and CM10 on my i815 and the N7 blows it away in smoothness
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Locerra's recent CM10 build is ****ing awesome.
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okashira said:
I have run into a problem restoring to stock. I forgot to make a nandroid backup of my original stock, so I am using the one posted in the i815 thread in the general form.
I unzipped the .7z file and it has a folder with the date in it.
I placed this folder with the files inside on my SDcard AND my internal SDcard under
\clockworkmod\backups\2012-05-06.22.48.58\**
(the actual files are in the 2012 folder, not a folder in a folder)
And I am getting the error:
can not open directory, no files found etc.
What am I doing wrong here? Wrong version CWM maybe?
Update: I flashed an older CWM (5.0.2.7) from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1470896 and same error:
Couldn't open directory.
No files found.
The files are there!!
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I suppose you could make a torrent?
Hopefully someone will chime in and offer to host your nandroid.
I have downloaded the nandroid from the beginning of this thread and I cannot get cwm to recognize it.
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I'll try to get it up tonight.
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