Related
I am getting tired of waiting for the stock 3.1 rom now so I am starting to think about using one of the custom roms.
Have there been any performance and function comparisons between the stock rom and the custom roms?
Or do you have any good arguments either way?
The two most popular appear to be Virtuous Picasso and Virtuous Galaxy. I have been using the 1.08 version of the former for sometime and have had no issues. I thether, have gps, bluetooth, WiFi all w/out issue. If your rooted, get wild and flash them both; see which you Luke better.
I like virtuous galaxy for the the touchwiz, but there were too many broken things. Exchange didn't work, couldn't access files on my external sd card (although apps like google music seemed to be able to) and my usb keyboard didn't work. Virtuous galaxy seems to work without any issues.
I've tried them all so far, and they all have pro's and con's. They also all have bugs, which is only to be expected.
Currently, I'm running stock and, to be honest, kinda prefer it. Though I *have* rooted and added a few tweaks...
willyampz said:
I like virtuous galaxy for the the touchwiz, but there were too many broken things. Exchange didn't work, couldn't access files on my external sd card (although apps like google music seemed to be able to) and my usb keyboard didn't work. Virtuous galaxy seems to work without any issues.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You started off saying virtuous galaxy had too many broken things, then went on to say virtuous galaxy seems to work without issues? Maybe it's too early and I'm reading it wrong in my barely awake state, but could you clarify please? Lol
vanisleguy1976 said:
You started off saying virtuous galaxy had too many broken things, then went on to say virtuous galaxy seems to work without issues? Maybe it's too early and I'm reading it wrong in my barely awake state, but could you clarify please? Lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't mean to speak for willy but I think what he was saying is that at first, Virtuous Galaxy was nice but had too many broken features but after the release this past weekend, most of the bugs are fixed.
I am using Primee which is the Asus Transformer ROM with some of the Acer items left intact. I have tried Virtuous Galaxy and UI is beautiful but I was getting a barely perceptible lag opening and closing the app drawer even after OC to 1500 and it was bugging me. I think the problem could have been one of the Samsung widgets.
I normally recommend loading a custom rom if you feel comfortable. I rooted my HTC Magic back in the early days of Android and have never looked back.
wahlis said:
I am getting tired of waiting for the stock 3.1 rom now so I am starting to think about using one of the custom roms.
Have there been any performance and function comparisons between the stock rom and the custom roms?
Or do you have any good arguments either way?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You should go for 3.1 stock (official acer update), works like butter and fixes problems that custom roms still have (like cell stanby) unless they are based on 3.1 stock (I'm still waiting )
Update to 3.1 stock Acer Official Update
No wipe needed or acer recovery/cwm, you don't lose your data, but it's highly recommended to backup and use recovery/cwm, through again not necesary.
Here is a change log (what's new/changed) to see if it's worth, if you do update please share with me in that thread what's new and changed so we can inform, share and encourage pleople to update to 3.1, plus if you do it now you get new OTA Acer_ A500_4.010.30_COM_GEN1 (I sound like a salesman ) who knows for how long they will keep the update
Justray said:
You should go for 3.1 stock (official acer update), works like butter and fixes problems that custom roms still have (like cell stanby) unless they are based on 3.1 stock (I'm still waiting )
Update to 3.1 stock Acer Official Update
No wipe needed or acer recovery/cwm, you don't lose your data, but it's highly recommended to backup and use recovery/cwm, through again not necesary.
Here is a change log (what's new/changed) to see if it's worth, if you do update please share with me in that thread what's new and changed so we can inform, share and encourage pleople to update to 3.1, plus if you do it now you get new OTA Acer_ A500_4.010.30_COM_GEN1 (I sound like a salesman ) who knows for how long they will keep the update
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My question is,after read almost all pages of the threads about this;does this go for all devices?I have a emea_gen3..sorry if i'm being a Noob now.
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
Thanks for all the advice. I think I'll wait a while longer for the stock now. It doesn't sound like the custom roms are the kind of miracle upgrades I got to my Hero and Desire phones yet.
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
booze78 said:
My question is,after read almost all pages of the threads about this;does this go for all devices?I have a emea_gen3..sorry if i'm being a Noob now.
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes it works, I went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1, everything works fine, updated from .22 to .30 from OTA.
wahlis said:
Thanks for all the advice. I think I'll wait a while longer for the stock now. It doesn't sound like the custom roms are the kind of miracle upgrades I got to my Hero and Desire phones yet.
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually the update posted IS official, Acer one, right now those with that version are getting OTA .30 update, so as far as I know that's stock unless you mean out-of-the-box as stock.
i meant to say virtuous picasso seems to work without issues and tried to edit it after.
Justray said:
Yes it works, I went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1, everything works fine, updated from .22 to .30 from OTA.
Actually the update posted IS official, Acer one, right now those with that version are getting OTA .30 update, so as far as I know that's stock unless you mean out-of-the-box as stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yessss,it worked.Lost root only..
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
booze78 said:
Yessss,it worked.Lost root only..
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and you can re-root
Please post here anything new you find, new issues, fixed issues, software and experience related please
Just don't forget to back up!
@Justray, you say : "Yes it works, I went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1, everything works fine, updated from .22 to .30 from OTA."
How do you procede to go from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1?
My machine is COM_GEN1 so I'm happy. My sister who got hers in Denmark is EMEA_GEN3 and is still stuck with firmware 1.x (Android 3.0.1)... Is there a step-by-step instructions for going to COM_GEN1 for her machine?
I suspect I can then download the latest firmware manually from : code.google.com/p/acer-a500/downloads/list or use OTA like my machine?
Thanks,
Gilles.
ggravier said:
@Justray, you say : "Yes it works, I went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1, everything works fine, updated from .22 to .30 from OTA."
How do you procede to go from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1?
My machine is COM_GEN1 so I'm happy. My sister who got hers in Denmark is EMEA_GEN3 and is still stuck with firmware 1.x (Android 3.0.1)... Is there a step-by-step instructions for going to COM_GEN1 for her machine?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I too went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1. Here is the basic low-down as to how I went about it:
* Install Acer Recovery from Market and use it to install clockworkmod.
* Download the COM_GEN1 ROM from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176632 thread.
* Use Acer ROM Decrypter to decrypt the .zip file and extract the update.zip from there.
* Rename the update.zip to something like e.g. AcerROMcomgen1.zip and copy it on your SD card. It's important that it is on the SD, not internal storage.
* Turn off your tablet, then turn it on while keeping the volume button pressed down until you see white text appear on the tablet screen's top-left corner.
* Use clockwordmod to first make a full backup for just-in-case. I really mean it: do a full backup. You never know if you might need it later!
* Then format cache, format data/factory reset, then install zip from SD.
* Reboot.
As for navigating in clockwordmod: you use the volume button to go up or down in menus, and power button to select the menu item.
I just picked up my Acer a500 the day before and am very pleased with the purchase. I rooted it within the first hour of unboxing which was a breeze but I cant find a good How To in reguards to installing CWM and a Rom.
I have had a DX since july of last year and have rooted it and installed dozens of roms, currently running CM4DX GB. But there was much more dev support for the phone than I can find for the Acer Tab so it's a bit intimidating. I'm currently on rooted 3.1
I was looking at lightspeed Rom and Richardtrips OC kernel, or perhaps Dexters Transformer Rom with richardtrips OC Kernel. Thing is i have no idea how to flash either of these, I've been reading non stop and i find myself mroe confused now than before i started researching lol.
Any help or a lead int he right direction would be great.
Tip
SoHaunted said:
I just picked up my Acer a500 the day before and am very pleased with the purchase. I rooted it within the first hour of unboxing which was a breeze but I cant find a good How To in reguards to installing CWM and a Rom.
I have had a DX since july of last year and have rooted it and installed dozens of roms, currently running CM4DX GB. But there was much more dev support for the phone than I can find for the Acer Tab so it's a bit intimidating. I'm currently on rooted 3.1
I was looking at lightspeed Rom and Richardtrips OC kernel, or perhaps Dexters Transformer Rom with richardtrips OC Kernel. Thing is i have no idea how to flash either of these, I've been reading non stop and i find myself mroe confused now than before i started researching lol.
Tried most roms and kernals and the best for me is stock 3.1 If you like to hack and fixs problems go for it. Just read and do a full backup using cwm (clockworkmod). Download Acer recovery from the market, as it has thors backup stuff. With in you can do a full backup of your rom and install other roms its the tool to have. Have fun.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the tip, while researching I have found most people say 3.1 is where it's at and seeing as how 3.2 is rolling out in certain places today I am not planning on upgrading until a root method is achieved on 3.2.
Can I say use stock 3.1 and richardtrips OC kernel? I also want to remove the fluff that came on it, would using Root Explorer to rename the unwanted apk's in system/app a good method or are there better options?
Install Acer recovery installer.Do a complete backup.store it in two or 3 different locations.
Any changes at all you make WILL Stop all future updates.so you will need to revert back in the future maybe
Good luck
Here is a stock 3.2 ROM for P7310 (WiFi) that I built from a system.img and boot.img from P7310XXKJ4(thanks poolguy!). This is good for testing, ROM bases, or for folks that like stock and don't want to flash XXKJ4 with ODIN.
HC 3.2 P7310 XXKJ4
CWM Recovery flashable (system and stock boot.img)
Deodexed
Zipaligned
Rooted + busybox
Added Email.apk from 10.1 ROM
Works great with my v2 kernel for HC 3.2
MD5 ef6dd6a525fda5d5931369b9839cf082
StockHC32_P7310XXKJ4.zip
http://www.multiupload.com/MZ4KY8ZGZ6
As-is...I will provide no support for this stock ROM.
Thank you! Doing a Nandroid backup now and checking this bad boy out!
Edit: Its running great so far. Installed the kernel and OCed to 1.4 (1.5 would shut down half way through the benchmark). 5815 in Antutu. Thanks!
3.2 Not as good as 3.1
Having tried both your modified 3.2 ROM for my GT-P7310
and an unmodified 3.2 version,
I'm VERY disappointed in the results.
In both cases, EVERYTHING on my 8.9 WiFi Tab runs slower.
Superuser problems arose when I tried to run Root Explorer or any
other apps that require SU permission. Updating to SU 3.07
didn't even fix the problems.
Used CWM restore and went back to stock 3.1 (P7310ZSKH4)
with your motley_v1i.zip and everything running fast & smooth again.
I have CPU Max at 1504MHz and Min 216 MHz with Scaling on conservative.
Glenn
weltwon said:
Having tried both your modified 3.2 ROM for my GT-P7310
and an unmodified 3.2 version,
I'm VERY disappointed in the results.
In both cases, EVERYTHING on my 8.9 WiFi Tab runs slower.
Superuser problems arose when I tried to run Root Explorer or any
other apps that require SU permission. Updating to SU 3.07
didn't even fix the problems.
Used CWM restore and went back to stock 3.1 (P7310ZSKH4)
with your motley_v1i.zip and everything running fast & smooth again.
I have CPU Max at 1504MHz and Min 216 MHz with Scaling on conservative.
Glenn
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Glenn, after running on this for a couple days I have to agree with you about performance on Samsung's 3.2, although I didn't have any of the SU issues you are reporting. I don't think Samsung has released 3.2 officially for the 8.9, perhaps due to this reason and all the issues they had when rolling out 3.2 for the 10.1. Even though we can get the early update from Samsung using apps like the Check Fus Downloader (where XXKJ4 originated from), I just don't think it is ready for prime time yet. If you look at the Overcome thread, users are expressing the same frustrations with the 3.2 based ROM.
Good news, we have the 3.2 kernel ready to go even though we don't have official kernel source from Samsung.
Bad news, I don't think we have stable 3.2 base yet...at least for the WiFi version...not sure about the 3G model.
I'll probably go back to 3.1 as well and sit tight until we get an official release. Thanks for your observations and comments.
Being first is not always best
_motley said:
Glenn, after running on this for a couple days I have to agree with you about performance on Samsung's 3.2, although I didn't have any of the SU issues you are reporting. I don't think Samsung has released 3.2 officially for the 8.9, perhaps due to this reason and all the issues they had when rolling out 3.2 for the 10.1. Even though we can get the early update from Samsung using apps like the Check Fus Downloader (where XXKJ4 originated from), I just don't think it is ready for prime time yet. If you look at the Overcome thread, users are expressing the same frustrations with the 3.2 based ROM.
Good news, we have the 3.2 kernel ready to go even though we don't have official kernel source from Samsung.
Bad news, I don't think we have stable 3.2 base yet...at least for the WiFi version...not sure about the 3G model.
I'll probably go back to 3.1 as well and sit tight until we get an official release. Thanks for your observations and comments.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sometimes we should remind ourselves that "patience is a virtue."
But for all us GadgetAholics, we can console ourselves by knowing
that we can warn others AFTER we've taken the plunge into
"unknown waters."
Happy Thanksgiving !
Glenn
P.S. Forgot to mention that I also tried the V3.2 for 7510 (10.1" WiFi Tab)
which made me thankful that we can reboot into ODIN mode.
What kind of performance issues are we talking about? Mine seems fine. Are those benchmark scores not good? I dont notice any lag that wasnt already there.
ZBoater said:
What kind of performance issues are we talking about? Mine seems fine. Are those benchmark scores not good? I dont notice any lag that wasnt already there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
One thing to remember about this ROM is that it is deodexed so it will be slow the first time you boot and the first time you run any system applications. After you use stuff once, it will be fast the next time (boot will also only suffer once).
I didn't have any major issues, I just feel that 3.2 on kernel 2a is less fluent than 3.1 on kernel v1i. Stock for stock it seems the same way to me (3.1>3.2), but the overclocked kernel is able to hide performance issues mentioned by some GT8.9 reviews. The difference is very subtle and won't be noticed by most. It probably has something to do with Samsung and their modifications of Android 3.2 and Touchwiz. The benchmarks I ran were the same on 3.1 and 3.2 and I have had no issues with any hardware on either version. In my mind, the issues are very small and unnoticeable by most.
I hope this helps clear things up for you and others that are wondering and experimenting.
Update: I am back on this 3.2 WiFi ROM and don't have any issues. I did two things different this time. First, I wiped data (factory reset). Second, I installed my new updated kernel v2b. While the latter may give some smoothness improvements, it is the former that is likely making the difference. When I did this the first time, I was lazy and didn't wipe data. The ROM install itself wipes cache and dalvik cache, so this was the same for everybody, but the data wipe may have been a wildcard and may have been worse for some due to the settings they had etc.
If you do decide to do this (wipe data and upgrade), you won't lose all your SDCard install zip files, but it will erase system settings (WiFi networks/passwords), email accounts, browser bookmarks, installed apps and their settings. You will boot into a new tab this way and start from scatch. You can use Titanium Backup so you can backup on 3.1 and restore apps quickly. Also, make full CWM backup and you can just go back to 3.1 as it was if you like.
I'm definitely happy and staying on 3.2 now. It sounds like the Overcome ROM is also flying along on 3.2 as well after his last update. Moving onward and upward!
_motley said:
Update: I am back on this 3.2 WiFi ROM and don't have any issues. I did two things different this time. First, I wiped data (factory reset). Second, I installed my new updated kernel v2b. While the latter may give some smoothness improvements, it is the former that is likely making the difference. When I did this the first time, I was lazy and didn't wipe data. The ROM install itself wipes cache and dalvik cache, so this was the same for everybody, but the data wipe may have been a wildcard and may have been worse for some due to the settings they had etc.
If you do decide to do this (wipe data and upgrade), you won't lose all your SDCard install zip files, but it will erase system settings (WiFi networks/passwords), email accounts, browser bookmarks, installed apps and their settings. You will boot into a new tab this way and start from scatch. You can use Titanium Backup so you can backup on 3.1 and restore apps quickly. Also, make full CWM backup and you can just go back to 3.1 as it was if you like.
I'm definitely happy and staying on 3.2 now. It sounds like the Overcome ROM is also flying along on 3.2 as well after his last update. Moving onward and upward!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Although I did a complete wipe before installing this one, I still feel 3.1's a bit smoother at landscape and other animations on my tab. I shall wait for another leak hopefully by Christmas. Thanks once more for your efforts
thank you
running 3.2 as well
I noticed slow performance at first which was expected. But then it persisted.
I updated to _motley kernel v2d i think it was. Seems tolerable now.
The huge difference was when i switched to ADW launcher EX. Now its very smooth transitioning from one screen to the other and the application drawer opens nice and smooth. Everything is working as I want it to.
I'm happy with it. :3
Thank you so much!
Btw, is there a better release of the 3.2 rom for the 8.9 tab? Not looking to switch, but I do want to stay informed.
0okami said:
running 3.2 as well
I noticed slow performance at first which was expected. But then it persisted.
I updated to _motley kernel v2d i think it was. Seems tolerable now.
The huge difference was when i switched to ADW launcher EX. Now its very smooth transitioning from one screen to the other and the application drawer opens nice and smooth. Everything is working as I want it to.
I'm happy with it. :3
Thank you so much!
Btw, is there a better release of the 3.2 rom for the 8.9 tab? Not looking to switch, but I do want to stay informed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As of this writing, KJ5 is the latest leak for our 7310.
Sent from my GT-P7310
Any idea if there is support for Bootanimation.zip ?
I'd like to modify my boot animation but im not seeing the files in the system media folder. I do see *.qmg (bootsamsung.qmg, batery_charging_##.qmg) which seem to be proprietary format.
I saw another rom that says support for bootanimation.zip and it had me wondering how hard would it be to add that functionality for my tablet.
If any cares to share thought?
0okami said:
Any idea if there is support for Bootanimation.zip ?
I'd like to modify my boot animation but im not seeing the files in the system media folder. I do see *.qmg (bootsamsung.qmg, batery_charging_##.qmg) which seem to be proprietary format.
I saw another rom that says support for bootanimation.zip and it had me wondering how hard would it be to add that functionality for my tablet.
If any cares to share thought?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm still waiting for my P7310 but from what I've seen so far the stock ROM runs /system/bin/samsungani rather than the standard android /system/bin/bootanimation at boot time.
I suspect that all you have to do to enable standard android bootanimations would be to copy /system/bin/bootanimation to /system/bin/samsungani and overwrite the samsungs version.
I will not go into detail on how to create a bootanimation.zip but the most important thing to remember about it is to use an NON-compressed zip file.
In December, when I picked up my TF101, I used Razorclaw + CWM to root it. I also found some kind of an update here that I applied that allowed me to overlock the device .. I believe it was a form of kernel patch?
I would like to go to ICS. I need to be rooted after ICS though, we have a VPN client for our SonicWall firewall that requires the OS to be rooted. I would also prefer an ICS port that supports overclocking like my current build .. it's been incredibly useful to clock up in to the 1400s as it makes everything run so much better.
Is it possible to upgrade to the stock ICS, root it easily and patch it to allow for overclocking at this time? If so, could someone direct me to a guide that shows what the easiest way to do this is, since I already have CWM in (although can't remember how to get it to come up on boot .. doh)?
Thanks =)
Wait till Asus fix the problems.
Yea dont install ICS, it would be like pouring water over your PC
It might seem fun at the time, but its really not a good idea
I would say it is a very bad idea. Avoid it. I did it and literally my tablet is unusable now because of
Slow response
Random rebooted
Random no message crash of apps like gmail.
Dead slow,app response
white screen on app loading
It is now embarrassing infront of ipad users.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
spinaldex said:
In December, when I picked up my TF101, I used Razorclaw + CWM to root it. I also found some kind of an update here that I applied that allowed me to overlock the device .. I believe it was a form of kernel patch?
I would like to go to ICS. I need to be rooted after ICS though, we have a VPN client for our SonicWall firewall that requires the OS to be rooted. I would also prefer an ICS port that supports overclocking like my current build .. it's been incredibly useful to clock up in to the 1400s as it makes everything run so much better.
Is it possible to upgrade to the stock ICS, root it easily and patch it to allow for overclocking at this time? If so, could someone direct me to a guide that shows what the easiest way to do this is, since I already have CWM in (although can't remember how to get it to come up on boot .. doh)?
Thanks =)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ignore the fear mongering posters.
Tons of people are using ICS without issues. But yes, some do experience issues.
Since you have CWM, you can directly flash the pre-rooted stock ICS. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552303 This is the latest 9.2.1.17 version.
If you want to overclock, you can flash custom ICS ROMs that support overclocking. There's only 2 at the moment, Team EOS and Codename Android.
Frequently updated custom ICS roms such as Team EOS and CM9 tend to be very stable and have fixes that stock ICS doesn't have, so flash a custom ROM instead of the stock ROM if you are concerned about possible issues.
As always, do factory reset + clear cache + clear dalvik cache within CWM before flashing the stock ROM or any custom ROM.
To be safe, I would update your CWM to the latest version here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1213723 before flashing anything.
horndroid said:
Ignore the fear mongering posters.
Tons of people are using ICS without issues. But yes, some do experience issues.
Since you have CWM, you can directly flash the pre-rooted stock ICS. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552303 This is the latest 9.2.1.17 version.
If you want to overclock, you can flash custom ICS ROMs that support overclocking. There's only 2 at the moment, Team EOS and Codename Android.
Frequently updated custom ICS roms such as Team EOS and CM9 tend to be very stable and have fixes that stock ICS doesn't have, so flash a custom ROM instead of the stock ROM if you are concerned about possible issues.
As always, do factory reset + clear cache + clear dalvik cache within CWM before flashing the stock ROM or any custom ROM.
To be safe, I would update your CWM to the latest version here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1213723 before flashing anything.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Terrible advise.
Why tell someone to update to an OS that has literally flooded XDA and other forums, and ASUS's facebook page with people saying their TF is no longer usable ?
For the sake of waiting for a working update, why suggest doing something that could very well turn their TF into a buggy POS ?
There is nothing in ICS that is worth the risk
*Detection* said:
Terrible advise.
Why tell someone to update to an OS that has literally flooded XDA and other forums, and ASUS's facebook page with people saying their TF is no longer usable ?
For the sake of waiting for a working update, why suggest doing something that could very well turn their TF into a buggy POS ?
There is nothing in ICS that is worth the risk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are just as many people, probably much much more, who aren't having problems.
Besides, have you tried any custom ROMs? If not, stfu.
I would no say my TF is unusable under ICS.
It works fine, apart from not so random reboots, as it reboots mainly in the morning when I wake it up form the night...
maybe the Sleeping Beauty requires a kiss from the Prince ...
By the way, it used to be really better under HoneyComb, I wish i could have refused that damned firmware upgrade ...
If I were you I'd rather wait as an other poster said for a really proven Stable version from Asus
Nickola
horndroid said:
There are just as many people, probably much much more, who aren't having problems.
Besides, have you tried any custom ROMs? If not, stfu.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Who the F are you telling to stfu ?
Of course I have tried custom ROMs you doosh, I just prefer to have a stock TF, well, I did until ASUS decided to send out buggy sh**
*Detection* said:
Who the F are you telling to stfu ?
Of course I have tried custom ROMs you doosh, I just prefer to have a stock TF, well, I did until ASUS decided to send out buggy sh**
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you are using one of the better custom ICS roms and still having such bad issues, the problem is you and your apps since those AOSP roms aren't even based on Asus's ICS.
The OP has root and CWM, and wants to overclock. So how was it a bad advice to recommend a custom ICS rom?
Just because you are having issues, doesn't mean everyone else will.
I've never had any issues at all and I just got done testing like 5 different ROMs. No issues whatsoever. Probably because I do it correctly and do a full wipe including format /system before I flash anything.
I've got issues on Stock and I did a full wipe using voldn+power method and this was before I rooted. I also lost sound randomly on Stock, and the custom kernels I still get reboots but my sound for the main part does work.
So, if the OP needs their tablet to work correctly then wait, if it's not that important to them and they don't need for day to day tasks then take a chance, you might get lucky or you might be causing yourself a headache, up to you.
horndroid said:
If you are using one of the better custom ICS roms and still having such bad issues, the problem is you and your apps since those AOSP roms aren't even based on Asus's ICS.
The OP has root and CWM, and wants to overclock. So how was it a bad advice to recommend a custom ICS rom?
Just because you are having issues, doesn't mean everyone else will.
I've never had any issues at all and I just got done testing like 5 different ROMs. No issues whatsoever. Probably because I do it correctly and do a full wipe including format /system before I flash anything.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How is the problem me when I am doing everything the "ASUS way" ?
The problem is ASUS and their code.
If you read the OP's actual post, you will see this line
"Is it possible to upgrade to the stock ICS"
And if you want to go even further into it, your line "Probably because I do it correctly and do a full wipe including format /system before I flash anything"
I don't think you can get a cleaner flash than NVFLASH, which is how I always flash my ROMs
!!! Attention !!!
.24 seems to be even more imminent, so if you have any patience left, wait for it, otherwise keep on reading
#########
Couldn't take the infant ICS anymore, the RR & SOD, broken sound, gmail freezing etc. Waited a while for fixes but my patience ran out.
If you decide to downgrade via flashing stock images, you will quickly discover yourself in a maze of inter dependencies, missing downloads etc, conflicting & not working root methods.
Instead, flash the Revolver 3.11 (fetch one from Dev Thread) - doable via CW or NVFlash. You will get up-to-date HC distro, rooted & all, with barely any effort at all.
rashid11 said:
Instead, flash the Revolver 3.11 (fetch one from Dev Thread) - doable via CW or NVFlash. You will get up-to-date HC distro, rooted & all, with barely any effort at all.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you're flashing a custom ROM, why not try one of the ICS custom ROM? I don't have RR or SOD with Megatron ROM or any of the ICS ROM I've tried
baseballfanz said:
If you're flashing a custom ROM, why not try one of the ICS custom ROM? I don't have RR or SOD with Megatron ROM or any of the ICS ROM I've tried
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here, other than the latest ICS test Kernel I have seen little to no problems since upgrading to ICS.
glad to hear that ICS's been trouble-free for some folx here, and God knows I tried too, but simply had to back off and wait till 100% stable ICS is released - ASUS or custom ROMs.
I think most of us wuz caught by surprise with ICS instability, we were used so much to how rock stable HC had become around late fall of 2011, ASUS or custom ROMs.
Or save your self the pain, since it isn't going to help much, refurting back to HC. and read Gary's last update:
5/14/2012 Update -
The .24 release should go to FOTA later today or early tomorrow. Please shutdown and perform a cold boot after updating.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
gkillerx said:
Or save your self the pain, since it isn't going to help much, refurting back to HC. and read Gary's last update:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where did you get this from?
hey, if that .24 thing works (as in proven) and we have a nice pre-rooted NVFlash or CW image out, I won't hesitate going back to HC ... but for now I need something I could rely on
baseballfanz said:
If you're flashing a custom ROM, why not try one of the ICS custom ROM? I don't have RR or SOD with Megatron ROM or any of the ICS ROM I've tried
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I Was on Megatron and had daily (sometimes multiple per day) SOD's. The problem is at the kernel level, with something that is common to *any* ICS ROM, stock or custom.
Even with guevor's kernel I still had the SOD's. I stopped trying when he was at the 17c version, I think, and nvflashed prime (I posted a quick guide somewhere).
If you want stock, there are guides to go from custom HC ROM's to stock which are simpler than going from ICS to stock HC.
I don't know what you guys are doing to have such bad luck on ICS, but my experience with Team Eos ICS has been absolutely pleasant. Absolutely every minor shortcoming that the tf101 had on HC (like video playback, stuttery transitions, "white boxing" in the browser, etc) is improved or fixed completely in ICS.
The ONLY problem I have with ICS is that the one single app I depend on every day for work is incompatible with ICS - not a fault of ICS, but the developer of that app. Thats why of my two tf101s, one of them is still running HC (Prime 2.1.1)
None of us doubt the evolutionary nature of ICS and we all will gladly upgrade to ICS when the issues are fixed. For now, some require tablets that are good enough to be relied on.
The "wait a for a full moon, have 23 ml of blood of virgin male chicken handy, face North (do account for magnetic field) at exactly 12:34, wipe 7 times, wait 50 minutes between, upgrade to 18.1, immediately downgrade to 17c ... etc" recipes are a bit more than I could handle .
Seriously, I was so used to how solid stock HC was, I was totally shocked by ICS ... should've never allowed auto-update ... wait, ASUS gave us non-rooted users no choice in the matter
rashid11 said:
None of us doubt the evolutionary nature of ICS and we all will gladly upgrade to ICS when the issues are fixed. For now, some require tablets that are good enough to be relied on.
The "wait a for a full moon, have 23 ml of blood of virgin male chicken handy, face North (do account for magnetic field) at exactly 12:34, wipe 7 times, wait 50 minutes between, upgrade to 18.1, immediately downgrade to 17c ... etc" recipes are a bit more than I could handle .
Seriously, I was so used to how solid stock HC was, I was totally shocked by ICS ... should've never allowed auto-update ... wait, ASUS gave us non-rooted users no choice in the matter
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I haven't seen anyone post anything like that to get ICS to work. It seems like it either does or doesn't, I would call it user error but I would probably be beheaded by all the people who have these issues. All I know is that along with other people I am running ICS and can go days, if not longer, without a single SOD or RR.
If you need to go back to HC, go right ahead, but try not to be too harsh as from what I can tell, 90 % of the community isn't having major issues.
rashid11 said:
None of us doubt the evolutionary nature of ICS and we all will gladly upgrade to ICS when the issues are fixed. For now, some require tablets that are good enough to be relied on.
The "wait a for a full moon, have 23 ml of blood of virgin male chicken handy, face North (do account for magnetic field) at exactly 12:34, wipe 7 times, wait 50 minutes between, upgrade to 18.1, immediately downgrade to 17c ... etc" recipes are a bit more than I could handle .
Seriously, I was so used to how solid stock HC was, I was totally shocked by ICS ... should've never allowed auto-update ... wait, ASUS gave us non-rooted users no choice in the matter
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have no idea what you're talking about, dude...
ICS works fine. I didn't do any weird dance or ritual involving blood from a chicken. I simply installed Eos ICS and haven't had a single issue. Its better, faster, more stable than Honeycomb in every measurable metric. If you are having a different experience, I don't know what to tell you..
No sleep issues, no random reboots, all features work correctly. I don't know how else to put it other than saying there are ZERO problems with my tablet running ICS.
I agree, Ics is amazing IMO. I had freezing and reboot problems with HC, but I havn't really been on stock ICS, only AOKP/Megatron/ARHD with Testymehics/test kernels. No sod problems here.
Stock ICS
Sorry guys, no problems here at all and I am running stock ICS. No issues what so ever.
a.mcdear said:
I don't know what you guys are doing to have such bad luck on ICS, but my experience with Team Eos ICS has been absolutely pleasant.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've no doubt whatsoever that you have a great experience with ICS on your tablet. TBH, other than the SOD's, I liked ICS better than HC: Faster, snappier, more intuitive UI, etc. This isn't about the the OS or UI in general, it's a problem with the kernel and it is very inconsistent. While maybe the majority of people with a TF don't have a problem there is still a large group who do have problems. And these are also all over the place:
- SOD
- Random Reboot
- SOD + Random Reboot
- Screen glitching (or something like that)
- other weird stuff, less critical.
Nobody is doing *anything* to have such bad luck. It's just, well, bad luck. I love ICS and have it on my SGS, which ironically, wasn't even supposed to have been running ICS in the first place. And it's rock solid, fast, dependable and I love it tons more than the iPhone 4S they gave me at the office
miketoasty said:
Where did you get this from?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Like i said from gary :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1556914
Does anyone have access to NVFlash version of Revolver 3.11? (all links I've found are dead)
Apparently SOD and RR still exist in ICS .24
I downgraded using CWM .zip of 3.11 , that one was still available 2 days ago.
kermitdefroghere said:
Apparently SOD and RR still exist in ICS .24
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How do you sure about this? Have you updated to ICS.24???
My stock ICS.21 is doing great with a little mod.. flashed guever's custom kernel and those SOD or RR are gone.. Everything else is stock with all those ICS greatness.
farsight73 said:
How do you sure about this? Have you updated to ICS.24???
My stock ICS.21 is doing great with a little mod.. flashed guever's custom kernel and those SOD or RR are gone.. Everything else is stock with all those ICS greatness.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Check jtroskys posts in the official ics thread (stickied).
He was a beta tester for. 21 and .24.
Though stable initially .24 has receded back to the regular sods and Reboots many of us have been struggling with.
I've officially stopped waiting and went to Revolver.
Edit: Just to be clear... that's Revolver 3.11.1 (Honeycomb) with Blades kernel 3.
Very impressed.
Funny how an overclocked 3.2.1 build can be more stable than ICS (at least so far).
VERY impressed with Revolvers 3.11.1
Enjoying my Transformer again.
Sent from my XT910 using Tapatalk 2