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Finally i have my atrix! My mini review

Ok, here are my first impressions so far. Android is mostly unknown in Venezuela so i don't have any prior experience to relate to, but i do have an ipod touch 4g to compare with the OS and such.
-The phone refused to do anything without a sim card, either valid or invalid. As soon as i inserted my invalid sim card, i could do the blur wizard on WiFi and continue.
-Screen is rather nice, it's not AMOLED, but since i haven't owned any AMOLED devices (ipod is lcd) i don't feel it sucks in comparison. Some text is a little blurry, colors not that rich, but i like it.
-Phone seems speedy. Flash on a webpage indeed worked and didn't seem laggy. Except pinch to zoom way sucks, it's isn't fluid anywhere, iOS definitely wins here.
-Camera is better than i expected, since i expected purple pics. Seems ok. Shot 720p video, 20 seconds is 30 MB, huge!
-Alarms won't work with the phone off. This sucks, i don't want to leave the phone on when sleeping (want to save the battery, i don't want any type of data sync). I know i can put it on airplane mode, but it sucks. Every phone i have owned for 15 years has been able to wake itself on. Also, no auto on or auto off like my blackberry does. I know that there are apps for auto off (tasker?), but still this sucks.
-LED is tiny, doesn't do much by its own, needs external apps
-Blur isn't that bad, maybe because i haven't added any account to it. I installed facebook and twitter separately from the market, and am using the gmail app.
-Just enabled usb debugging, installed moto drivers, i see it under adb, time to root! Already purchased unlock code, will wait for it. Update: rooted with aroot, works fine so far.
-I want to make the display turn off at 30 seconds and the device to only lock after 5 minutes. While i have seen an option "security timer", i put it at 5 minutes but after 30 seconds i still needed to draw the finger horizontally to unlock it. Maybe i am not understanding this properly

please let us know when you unlock your phone to tell us if your wifi is working or not.
many users are reporting that when they unlocked their phone, their wireless no longer works.
and where did you get your unlock from " when you do "

Congrats and nice constructive review. Get root and you'll start to appreciate more. I was using an IPhone 4 and the screen didn't seen quite as nice but my eyes have adjusted rather well and i'm really enjoying the Atrix.
It has so much more, I dont think I could ever use the fruit phone again. Have fun
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ll_l_x_l_ll said:
many users are reporting that when they unlocked their phone, their wireless no longer works.
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unlocked mine last week and mine is working fine (Telstra Aus)

xdaLurker said:
Congrats and nice constructive review. Get root and you'll start to appreciate more. I was using an IPhone 4 and the screen didn't seen quite as nice but my eyes have adjusted rather well and i'm really enjoying the Atrix.
It has so much more, I dont think I could ever use the fruit phone again. Have fun
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The LCD screen color in the Atrix is all wrong. The yellow looks lime green and this is not sure even if it's software fixable!

squarejp said:
The LCD screen color in the Atrix is all wrong. The yellow looks lime green and this is not sure even if it's software fixable!
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actually its, nexus S users have been having same problem and VOODOO was released and now they have a program that adjust the colors based on your desire.
now they dont have pink gray in low brightness or yellowish white screen " those are the issues they used to have "
so all you need is to wait to get this rooted. and by the look of it, we are not very far from it according to the recent development in the last couple of days.

tjjensen23 said:
unlocked mine last week and mine is working fine (Telstra Aus)
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thats encouraging. good to hear that someone got his atrix wifi to work after the unlock. been alot of bad wifis recently

if my wifi stops working after unlocking i will flash the sbf that has been leaked. some users are saying this fixes their problems.
A couple of questions:
Can you configure the time that the display turns off independently of the time that the device locks? I want to turn off the display after 30 seconds, but only want the device to lock after 5 minutes. I have seen an app to disable locking , but not exactly what i want.
My only workaround for the alarm issue is to go on airplane mode and kill all apps before going to sleep. That way i can leave the phone on and the alarm works, but i would have to open again gmail and twitter manually each morning. I have seen a paid app that lets you configure certain tasks (tasker) but wanted to know if there is an alternative.

Why should we update?

Why should we update? Did the phone get faster in terms of lock screen, the finger print scanner get better? ...etc Post it here!

fRenZy-_- said:
Why should we update? Did the phone get faster in terms of lock screen, the finger print scanner get better? ...etc Post it here!
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because motorola told you to.

much better SQ out of headphone jack

justdrew said:
much better SQ out of headphone jack
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is there anymore lag on the lockscreen, like you dont have to slide twice?

****ing awesome battery life!

fRenZy-_- said:
is there anymore lag on the lockscreen, like you dont have to slide twice?
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out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.

aszrael1266 said:
out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.
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Are you over exaggeraring? Be honest. Because if this is the case, I may be willing to give up root for it.
Your telling me that the camera and screen quality is better? Are you certain that the lock screen slider is much more responsive?
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Sorry one more thing. Do you think the new added responsiveness only applies to blur? Im using launcher pro, do you think that would become more responsive? Thanks
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aszrael1266 said:
out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.
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I did initially think the camera was crap until I viewed its pictures on my PC, so I know what you're talking about. But... would software really be able to save the natural crappiness of AMOLED PenTile?

Sofware could fix this and the atrix is not AMOLED just pentile
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Is the update still only available to beta testers?
From all the posts it makes it seem it is available for anyone though a check for updates does nothing for me.

Personally, I would caution everyone before updating. There are numerous issues behind the scenes that need to be worked out. Can not divulge details, but I would personally wait until it has been tested further.

seh6183 said:
Are you over exaggeraring? Be honest. Because if this is the case, I may be willing to give up root for it.
Your telling me that the camera and screen quality is better? Are you certain that the lock screen slider is much more responsive?
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Sorry one more thing. Do you think the new added responsiveness only applies to blur? Im using launcher pro, do you think that would become more responsive? Thanks
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I've never used blur on my phone. The first app I put on it as soon as it was opened was luncher pro so I can't say how blur acts now. Its not the camera that has improved its the display of the phone. I do believe it can be done by software by adjusting the phones display (I.E. changing gama and other little behind the scenes things to make colors stand out more)
From what I know the update should be pushed out today. It does take some time and I thought my phone froze up while updating but it just takes time after the phones its first reboot so be patient. As far as brightness goes having it turned down as low as it can get its still brighter then it was before at 20-30%. I use to keep the phone at about 15-20% and now with it turned down as much as I can get it, it is still brighter then before.

aszrael1266 said:
I've never used blur on my phone. The first app I put on it as soon as it was opened was luncher pro so I can't say how blur acts now. Its not the camera that has improved its the display of the phone. I do believe it can be done by software by adjusting the phones display (I.E. changing gama and other little behind the scenes things to make colors stand out more)
From what I know the update should be pushed out today. It does take some time and I thought my phone froze up while updating but it just takes time after the phones its first reboot so be patient. As far as brightness goes having it turned down as low as it can get its still brighter then it was before at 20-30%. I use to keep the phone at about 15-20% and now with it turned down as much as I can get it, it is still brighter then before.
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Is there a time frame I should be worried about here? Im rooted, have the webtop hack, and the adeo rom. Do I need to put all this back to stock before a certain time or ill miss out on the update?
The only thing I would be sacrificing is root. I am new to android, in your guys experience, how long does it take for updates to get rooted after they are released. I just don't think I want to give up root yet because I enjoy freezing all this CRAP that moto put on the phone.
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So the update will be "pushed" to the phones automatically if not rooted? Our does it need to be downloaded from MOTO...?
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If I do the update I my phone wont reset right? Ill keep all my apps and settings?
Never live in the past but always learn from it.

seh6183 said:
Is there a time frame I should be worried about here? Im rooted, have the webtop hack, and the adeo rom. Do I need to put all this back to stock before a certain time or ill miss out on the update?
The only thing I would be sacrificing is root. I am new to android, in your guys experience, how long does it take for updates to get rooted after they are released. I just don't think I want to give up root yet because I enjoy freezing all this CRAP that moto put on the phone.
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If you're not up to date and you do a system update check, if there is any new updates, it should finded it. But as far as I know, the updates will be there if your phone is not up to date...
Rooting an update depends on the dev community backing the phone has, i.e. Droid X, which I had, updates were basically rooted within a day or so, look at the DX with the just released GB, it has a method for rooting already... and this phone doesn't look like it has as much dev backing, so it can take a while..
If you've done mods to your phone, and you try to update and it fails, it's most likey the mods are the ones stoping the updates, as it does checks on certain system files that need to match..

The update sounds great but I think ill wait for everyone to experiment with it first, then when the root comes out ill make the jump. Sounds like a lot of things that bothered me are fixed though. Too bad I can't grab it yet
I honestly probably would, im just scared as hell to try and remove these Adeo nods. The process looks involved. And I think I even read something that said wifi could break? Scary stuff
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I've done the update, retaining my root, and can confirm the phone is fast as hell. Use these guides:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991072
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12540398#post12540398
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I don't know how many here use swype, but I do, and i have seen a much better word recognition after the update. And i have kept root.

I think 4.1.26 is better. can easy be rooted and faster,I think.

Face Unlock

I'm not on the official OTA bc I'm on the NS4G, but am I the only person that can only get face lock to work 1/27th of the time? I have tried time after time to make better captures of my face and done the face lock improvement countless times, and I have no beard. I almost look retarded how still and perfect I sit with my phone at direct eye level with my face. Its really upsetting :\ I have tried multiple ROMs and the same result with all of them. I always get 'Sorry, don't recognize you' or 'Couldn't find a face' and it makes me wanna smash it, because this was my most anticipated and exciting feature of ICS. Any suggestions or is anyone in my boat?

Same here. Seems like the time taken for the camera to adjust to the light is too long for FaceUnlock to recognize a face. Sad really.

I have tried Face Unlock on Peter Alfonso's ROM and though not perfect it was surprisingly good. It would work 7 out of 10 times.
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Try the app "visidon" its free off market and I was using it on gingerbread flawlessly way before ics came out.
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I installed face unlock on my stock ICS and it only works from time to time. I think that if someone changed the recognition time (so that the camera has more time to adjust), it might work better. But then again, it sometimes fails to recognize me even in environments where light isn't a problem (i.e. outside).
I think that, with the Nexus S, face unlock is more of a hit & miss thing. Sometimes, for example it gets it right 18/20.

Works ok when
outside but inside good luck
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Rooster85 said:
Try the app "visidon" its free off market and I was using it on gingerbread flawlessly way before ics came out.
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+1 Visidon
Iv'e been using Visidon since before ICS and it works great.

Google was not including Face Unlock on the official releases of ICS for the Nexus S because the resolution of the front facing camera is not strong enough for Face Unlock to work satisfactorily in their eyes.
Having used it on a few different ROMs now, I'm tending to agree with them.

The stock ICS face unlock works fine for me. FYI, you have to make sure you take multiple training shots in different lighting conditions if you want it to be reliable.
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When I first installed Pete Alfonso's ROM from a full wipe, I had Face Unlock. Then when I restored apps and data from Titanium, it's gone. I also have the Screen Lock options for None and Slide grayed out with "Disabled by administrator, encryption policy, or credential storage". Any idea what app or setting would cause that?

Logomotph said:
I installed face unlock on my stock ICS and it only works from time to time. I think that if someone changed the recognition time (so that the camera has more time to adjust), it might work better. But then again, it sometimes fails to recognize me even in environments where light isn't a problem (i.e. outside).
I think that, with the Nexus S, face unlock is more of a hit & miss thing. Sometimes, for example it gets it right 18/20.
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LOL the recognition time I think may be what screws me. The time is soooo long already on here, much longer and my arm would lose circulation. It is hard for me to hold the phone in the exact same position for very long. And thank you to the rest of you, I will try Visidon.

Ics face unlock missing

got my transformer updated last night to ics and I cant find face unlock in settings. can anyone help me find it? or is it not there for tablets?
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not available in this release for front cameras under 720p devs are working on it though already got it working on nexus s

ohh thanks man
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Owning a Nexus, it's annoying anyway... cool but annoying.
I played with it for a few days and it was more hassle then it was worth. You have to "Improve" it constantly at first for it to even work with some consistency.
What they need to do is set a timer so once you face unlock, it just requires a simple slide to unlock for a set period... like 15min of screen off time. When you are working on something and constantly having to take self pictures to unlock the damn thing, it becomes a pain.
Once you face unlock, it should know that you're "around" close by. I only need FaceUnlock when I haven't been on my tablet for 15+ minutes and gone.

player911 said:
Owning a Nexus, it's annoying anyway... cool but annoying.
I played with it for a few days and it was more hassle then it was worth. You have to "Improve" it constantly at first for it to even work with some consistency.
What they need to do is set a timer so once you face unlock, it just requires a simple slide to unlock for a set period... like 15min of screen off time. When you are working on something and constantly having to take self pictures to unlock the damn thing, it becomes a pain.
Once you face unlock, it should know that you're "around" close by. I only need FaceUnlock when I haven't been on my tablet for 15+ minutes and gone.
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I agree completely. It's nothing more than a gimmick at this point.

Yes it's missing but it is running in the background. If you check all apps you will see it has the force close option. I myself just disabled the app so not to waste resources.

mrevankyle said:
not available in this release for front cameras under 720p devs are working on it though already got it working on nexus s
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i dont think galaxy nexus got 720P FFC

LastStandingDroid said:
i dont think galaxy nexus got 720P FFC
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then you are wrong

player911 said:
Owning a Nexus, it's annoying anyway... cool but annoying.
I played with it for a few days and it was more hassle then it was worth. You have to "Improve" it constantly at first for it to even work with some consistency.
What they need to do is set a timer so once you face unlock, it just requires a simple slide to unlock for a set period... like 15min of screen off time. When you are working on something and constantly having to take self pictures to unlock the damn thing, it becomes a pain.
Once you face unlock, it should know that you're "around" close by. I only need FaceUnlock when I haven't been on my tablet for 15+ minutes and gone.
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Load AOKP onto it. It has an option to delay the lock for a while and it works pretty good. Stock ICS has this option too whenever you have a secure lock turned on (like a pin) right under the lock options in security. Not sure why it doesn't show up otherwise but whatever. Only problem is that if you manually lock the screen it'll still lock it completely, hence why I like the AOKP option better because it doesn't care how the phone turns off it only locks it after x amount of screen off time.

No face unlock

I didn't the official update and look at all the features and saw no face unlock in security options

CoryBlaze said:
I didn't the official update and look at all the features and saw no face unlock in security options
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yes the front camera from the nexus s is too weak for that feature

you can use custom ROM if you want that feature
but sometimes it doesn't work properly

Not to mention it's fairly insecure: often times a photo of the face will suffice to unlock the phone...

if you want it flash your normal gaps then the facelock one from Jan
http://goo.im/gapps/

mzalan said:
Not to mention it's fairly insecure: often times a photo of the face will suffice to unlock the phone...
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I did this to my friends Galaxy nexus
he was trying facelock, i snapped a pic, and it worked instantly just by holding MY phone with his picture up to it lol.
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when it comes, it does not work reliably. better get the 'big' nexus for this

I tried flashing it manually on the Nexus S, and it worked (pretty bad, in fact).
I tried to improve the recognition via the menu (10-15 times in a row), and all I got was a bootloop (I had to wipe all and reflash ROM to get my phone back to normal)...
Simply put... don't do it

A fad
It's just a fad. Try driving and face unlocking your phone at the same time

Poriotis said:
It's just a fad. Try driving and face unlocking your phone at the same time
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And cue the uncontrollable laughter

Paleryder said:
if you want it flash your normal gaps then the facelock one from Jan
http://goo.im/gapps/
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Not really.
Just put a file called .forcefaceunlock in the root off the storage before flashing latest gapps and there you go!
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Visidon: as good as it gets; imho best for the ns.
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