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Ok, here are my first impressions so far. Android is mostly unknown in Venezuela so i don't have any prior experience to relate to, but i do have an ipod touch 4g to compare with the OS and such.
-The phone refused to do anything without a sim card, either valid or invalid. As soon as i inserted my invalid sim card, i could do the blur wizard on WiFi and continue.
-Screen is rather nice, it's not AMOLED, but since i haven't owned any AMOLED devices (ipod is lcd) i don't feel it sucks in comparison. Some text is a little blurry, colors not that rich, but i like it.
-Phone seems speedy. Flash on a webpage indeed worked and didn't seem laggy. Except pinch to zoom way sucks, it's isn't fluid anywhere, iOS definitely wins here.
-Camera is better than i expected, since i expected purple pics. Seems ok. Shot 720p video, 20 seconds is 30 MB, huge!
-Alarms won't work with the phone off. This sucks, i don't want to leave the phone on when sleeping (want to save the battery, i don't want any type of data sync). I know i can put it on airplane mode, but it sucks. Every phone i have owned for 15 years has been able to wake itself on. Also, no auto on or auto off like my blackberry does. I know that there are apps for auto off (tasker?), but still this sucks.
-LED is tiny, doesn't do much by its own, needs external apps
-Blur isn't that bad, maybe because i haven't added any account to it. I installed facebook and twitter separately from the market, and am using the gmail app.
-Just enabled usb debugging, installed moto drivers, i see it under adb, time to root! Already purchased unlock code, will wait for it. Update: rooted with aroot, works fine so far.
-I want to make the display turn off at 30 seconds and the device to only lock after 5 minutes. While i have seen an option "security timer", i put it at 5 minutes but after 30 seconds i still needed to draw the finger horizontally to unlock it. Maybe i am not understanding this properly
please let us know when you unlock your phone to tell us if your wifi is working or not.
many users are reporting that when they unlocked their phone, their wireless no longer works.
and where did you get your unlock from " when you do "
Congrats and nice constructive review. Get root and you'll start to appreciate more. I was using an IPhone 4 and the screen didn't seen quite as nice but my eyes have adjusted rather well and i'm really enjoying the Atrix.
It has so much more, I dont think I could ever use the fruit phone again. Have fun
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ll_l_x_l_ll said:
many users are reporting that when they unlocked their phone, their wireless no longer works.
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unlocked mine last week and mine is working fine (Telstra Aus)
xdaLurker said:
Congrats and nice constructive review. Get root and you'll start to appreciate more. I was using an IPhone 4 and the screen didn't seen quite as nice but my eyes have adjusted rather well and i'm really enjoying the Atrix.
It has so much more, I dont think I could ever use the fruit phone again. Have fun
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The LCD screen color in the Atrix is all wrong. The yellow looks lime green and this is not sure even if it's software fixable!
squarejp said:
The LCD screen color in the Atrix is all wrong. The yellow looks lime green and this is not sure even if it's software fixable!
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actually its, nexus S users have been having same problem and VOODOO was released and now they have a program that adjust the colors based on your desire.
now they dont have pink gray in low brightness or yellowish white screen " those are the issues they used to have "
so all you need is to wait to get this rooted. and by the look of it, we are not very far from it according to the recent development in the last couple of days.
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unlocked mine last week and mine is working fine (Telstra Aus)
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thats encouraging. good to hear that someone got his atrix wifi to work after the unlock. been alot of bad wifis recently
if my wifi stops working after unlocking i will flash the sbf that has been leaked. some users are saying this fixes their problems.
A couple of questions:
Can you configure the time that the display turns off independently of the time that the device locks? I want to turn off the display after 30 seconds, but only want the device to lock after 5 minutes. I have seen an app to disable locking , but not exactly what i want.
My only workaround for the alarm issue is to go on airplane mode and kill all apps before going to sleep. That way i can leave the phone on and the alarm works, but i would have to open again gmail and twitter manually each morning. I have seen a paid app that lets you configure certain tasks (tasker) but wanted to know if there is an alternative.
Why should we update? Did the phone get faster in terms of lock screen, the finger print scanner get better? ...etc Post it here!
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Why should we update? Did the phone get faster in terms of lock screen, the finger print scanner get better? ...etc Post it here!
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because motorola told you to.
much better SQ out of headphone jack
justdrew said:
much better SQ out of headphone jack
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is there anymore lag on the lockscreen, like you dont have to slide twice?
****ing awesome battery life!
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is there anymore lag on the lockscreen, like you dont have to slide twice?
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out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.
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out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.
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Are you over exaggeraring? Be honest. Because if this is the case, I may be willing to give up root for it.
Your telling me that the camera and screen quality is better? Are you certain that the lock screen slider is much more responsive?
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Sorry one more thing. Do you think the new added responsiveness only applies to blur? Im using launcher pro, do you think that would become more responsive? Thanks
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aszrael1266 said:
out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.
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I did initially think the camera was crap until I viewed its pictures on my PC, so I know what you're talking about. But... would software really be able to save the natural crappiness of AMOLED PenTile?
Sofware could fix this and the atrix is not AMOLED just pentile
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Is the update still only available to beta testers?
From all the posts it makes it seem it is available for anyone though a check for updates does nothing for me.
Personally, I would caution everyone before updating. There are numerous issues behind the scenes that need to be worked out. Can not divulge details, but I would personally wait until it has been tested further.
seh6183 said:
Are you over exaggeraring? Be honest. Because if this is the case, I may be willing to give up root for it.
Your telling me that the camera and screen quality is better? Are you certain that the lock screen slider is much more responsive?
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Sorry one more thing. Do you think the new added responsiveness only applies to blur? Im using launcher pro, do you think that would become more responsive? Thanks
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I've never used blur on my phone. The first app I put on it as soon as it was opened was luncher pro so I can't say how blur acts now. Its not the camera that has improved its the display of the phone. I do believe it can be done by software by adjusting the phones display (I.E. changing gama and other little behind the scenes things to make colors stand out more)
From what I know the update should be pushed out today. It does take some time and I thought my phone froze up while updating but it just takes time after the phones its first reboot so be patient. As far as brightness goes having it turned down as low as it can get its still brighter then it was before at 20-30%. I use to keep the phone at about 15-20% and now with it turned down as much as I can get it, it is still brighter then before.
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I've never used blur on my phone. The first app I put on it as soon as it was opened was luncher pro so I can't say how blur acts now. Its not the camera that has improved its the display of the phone. I do believe it can be done by software by adjusting the phones display (I.E. changing gama and other little behind the scenes things to make colors stand out more)
From what I know the update should be pushed out today. It does take some time and I thought my phone froze up while updating but it just takes time after the phones its first reboot so be patient. As far as brightness goes having it turned down as low as it can get its still brighter then it was before at 20-30%. I use to keep the phone at about 15-20% and now with it turned down as much as I can get it, it is still brighter then before.
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Is there a time frame I should be worried about here? Im rooted, have the webtop hack, and the adeo rom. Do I need to put all this back to stock before a certain time or ill miss out on the update?
The only thing I would be sacrificing is root. I am new to android, in your guys experience, how long does it take for updates to get rooted after they are released. I just don't think I want to give up root yet because I enjoy freezing all this CRAP that moto put on the phone.
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So the update will be "pushed" to the phones automatically if not rooted? Our does it need to be downloaded from MOTO...?
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If I do the update I my phone wont reset right? Ill keep all my apps and settings?
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
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Is there a time frame I should be worried about here? Im rooted, have the webtop hack, and the adeo rom. Do I need to put all this back to stock before a certain time or ill miss out on the update?
The only thing I would be sacrificing is root. I am new to android, in your guys experience, how long does it take for updates to get rooted after they are released. I just don't think I want to give up root yet because I enjoy freezing all this CRAP that moto put on the phone.
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If you're not up to date and you do a system update check, if there is any new updates, it should finded it. But as far as I know, the updates will be there if your phone is not up to date...
Rooting an update depends on the dev community backing the phone has, i.e. Droid X, which I had, updates were basically rooted within a day or so, look at the DX with the just released GB, it has a method for rooting already... and this phone doesn't look like it has as much dev backing, so it can take a while..
If you've done mods to your phone, and you try to update and it fails, it's most likey the mods are the ones stoping the updates, as it does checks on certain system files that need to match..
The update sounds great but I think ill wait for everyone to experiment with it first, then when the root comes out ill make the jump. Sounds like a lot of things that bothered me are fixed though. Too bad I can't grab it yet
I honestly probably would, im just scared as hell to try and remove these Adeo nods. The process looks involved. And I think I even read something that said wifi could break? Scary stuff
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I've done the update, retaining my root, and can confirm the phone is fast as hell. Use these guides:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991072
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12540398#post12540398
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I don't know how many here use swype, but I do, and i have seen a much better word recognition after the update. And i have kept root.
I think 4.1.26 is better. can easy be rooted and faster,I think.
I'm not on the official OTA bc I'm on the NS4G, but am I the only person that can only get face lock to work 1/27th of the time? I have tried time after time to make better captures of my face and done the face lock improvement countless times, and I have no beard. I almost look retarded how still and perfect I sit with my phone at direct eye level with my face. Its really upsetting :\ I have tried multiple ROMs and the same result with all of them. I always get 'Sorry, don't recognize you' or 'Couldn't find a face' and it makes me wanna smash it, because this was my most anticipated and exciting feature of ICS. Any suggestions or is anyone in my boat?
Same here. Seems like the time taken for the camera to adjust to the light is too long for FaceUnlock to recognize a face. Sad really.
I have tried Face Unlock on Peter Alfonso's ROM and though not perfect it was surprisingly good. It would work 7 out of 10 times.
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Try the app "visidon" its free off market and I was using it on gingerbread flawlessly way before ics came out.
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I installed face unlock on my stock ICS and it only works from time to time. I think that if someone changed the recognition time (so that the camera has more time to adjust), it might work better. But then again, it sometimes fails to recognize me even in environments where light isn't a problem (i.e. outside).
I think that, with the Nexus S, face unlock is more of a hit & miss thing. Sometimes, for example it gets it right 18/20.
Works ok when
outside but inside good luck
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Try the app "visidon" its free off market and I was using it on gingerbread flawlessly way before ics came out.
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+1 Visidon
Iv'e been using Visidon since before ICS and it works great.
Google was not including Face Unlock on the official releases of ICS for the Nexus S because the resolution of the front facing camera is not strong enough for Face Unlock to work satisfactorily in their eyes.
Having used it on a few different ROMs now, I'm tending to agree with them.
The stock ICS face unlock works fine for me. FYI, you have to make sure you take multiple training shots in different lighting conditions if you want it to be reliable.
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When I first installed Pete Alfonso's ROM from a full wipe, I had Face Unlock. Then when I restored apps and data from Titanium, it's gone. I also have the Screen Lock options for None and Slide grayed out with "Disabled by administrator, encryption policy, or credential storage". Any idea what app or setting would cause that?
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I installed face unlock on my stock ICS and it only works from time to time. I think that if someone changed the recognition time (so that the camera has more time to adjust), it might work better. But then again, it sometimes fails to recognize me even in environments where light isn't a problem (i.e. outside).
I think that, with the Nexus S, face unlock is more of a hit & miss thing. Sometimes, for example it gets it right 18/20.
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LOL the recognition time I think may be what screws me. The time is soooo long already on here, much longer and my arm would lose circulation. It is hard for me to hold the phone in the exact same position for very long. And thank you to the rest of you, I will try Visidon.
JUST PUSHED
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and did you do this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22871384
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and did you do this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22871384
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No sir! I woke up, and looked at my pad (for clock) and it said firmware update
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and did you do this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22871384
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I did Here it is
Yep, I was watching video when it asked me to update. Took around 10 minutes and kept all the data so everything functioned just like before. Except it looked better and the speed is amazing. Only down side that there is no face lock which I m hoping they will come up with an update!
Very satisfied customer here! Unlike my LG Optimus 2X phone which i m not expecting to get an update EVER.
Check if you have face lock
Its the us version right?
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No sir! I woke up, and looked at my pad (for clock) and it said firmware update
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Well i guess you're not going back to sleep anytime soon.
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Yep, I was watching video when it asked me to update. Took around 10 minutes and kept all the data so everything functioned just like before. Except it looked better and the speed is amazing. Only down side that there is no face lock which I m hoping they will come up with an update!
Very satisfied customer here! Unlike my LG Optimus 2X phone which i m not expecting to get an update EVER.
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Face unlock is a gimmick anyways..I have it on my phone, you usually end up having to type in your pin or pattern anyways, it is a negligible feature.
I should have factory reset before updating, that first reboot regenerating everything loaded (I guess) is taking a LONG time.
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Check if you have face lock
Its the us version right?
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yah i have it under security
WHOA! Look at that notification bar!!
IT'S BEAUTIFUL
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WHOA! Look at that notification bar!!
IT'S BEAUTIFUL
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LMAO that's the first thing I noticed too..I was like OMG SHINY!!! (moth to a flame)
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Face unlock is a gimmick anyways..I have it on my phone, you usually end up having to type in your pin or pattern anyways, it is a negligible feature.
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Wrong. I have it on my Galaxy Nexus and in 4.0.3 there's an option to improve face unlock. Just scan your face in different light, with/without glasses (if you have to wear) and in different angles (holding the phone in eye height, looking down on phone and so on) and face unlock works nearly everywhere except in total darkness. I took the time once and scanned about 30-40 situations, now face unlock works flawless.
I got it too, east coast DC area
How big?
Hi,
Can someone tell me what size it is? Want to see whether it is worth downloading or waiting till tonight?
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Wrong. I have it on my Galaxy Nexus and in 4.0.3 there's an option to improve face unlock. Just scan your face in different light, with/without glasses (if you have to wear) and in different angles (holding the phone in eye height, looking down on phone and so on) and face unlock works nearly everywhere except in total darkness. I took the time once and scanned about 30-40 situations, now face unlock works flawless.
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I know this, but I have tried this, it still gives me 'no face found' or 'unable to recognize' failures often. Not to mention that it's just a major PITA to hold any device in a single position for it to recognize you (very unsafe while driving), and it takes a full 2-3 seconds longer to unlock than simply swiping in your pattern, which is the fallback if it doesn't recognize you anyway. I have not found a good use for it yet (presumably, wouldn't a photo of you work anyway? And isn't it easier for a criminal to get a picture of your face than to guess your pattern?)
Just saying, impractical gimmick. Fun to play with, but for anyone who uses their device often, they will get tired of looking at themselves while the device tries to recognize them..IMHO, FWIW
Is this true
Am I understood right that you have got factory update for stock ROM?
If so that is pity - I am on custom ROM
Or we all just wait until some able Dev creates a CWM recovery-flashable version :beer:
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Am I understood right that you have got factory update for stock ROM?
If so that is pity - I am on custom ROM
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You can go back to stock You aren't stuck there lol just see the link in my sig (from the sounds of it though, you are still pretty green, and need to do A LOT of reading IMO before trying to do too much at once, you also need to determine if you are SBK1 or SBK2, my guide will help you determine this.)
Not a huge difference visually but huge performance boost!
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Haven't totally verified it, but it looks like Samsung took away the Lock effect, watercolor, which gives the nice water sound and lets you splash around the colors on the opening lock screen. Will find out more tomorrow, anyone else experiencing this same option missing ?
another guy in the other ota update thread mentioned the same thing.
I can confirm that it did in fact remove the effect on the lockscreen... What in the world... That was a nice feature. Mind you it lagged beastly for such a powerful device. (Specs sheet wise)
PS: I can definitely see a noticeable difference in speed. It might be just for the time been. But i'll keep you guys posted.
There is something about that water effect that causes more lag than it should. I noticed on my first generation Note 10.1 that disabling it improved speed on the homescreen and even typing. It shouldn't, but it did. When I noticed this I asked two other guys and they were having issues with lag. I told them to disable the water effect. Both also agreed that it improve the speed of the device as a whole.
Doesn't make any sense. I was, however, glad to see the ripple effect gone. It is beautiful though (less the lag)
Why do they take it away...regardless...
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There is something about that water effect that causes more lag than it should. I noticed on my first generation Note 10.1 that disabling it improved speed on the homescreen and even typing. It shouldn't, but it did. When I noticed this I asked two other guys and they were having issues with lag. I told them to disable the water effect. Both also agreed that it improve the speed of the device as a whole.
Doesn't make any sense. I was, however, glad to see the ripple effect gone. It is beautiful though (less the lag)
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If indeed it cause lagged, why not just give the option of the three effects on the lock screen and add, an off feature and let the user of the tablet decide if they want it off or not. They also, have bugs in the high end graphics games crapping out. They also have cause the S-voice to crash when you ask certain questions, they also have contacts created with action memo failing to keep first and last names apart. I will do a video on all this nonsense and post it on youtube. Hopefully, Samsung will see it and respond with some sort of fix for all this stuff, and maybe just maybe they will put back the ripple effect and let us chose if we want it or not. And by the way Samsung if your reading this, your tablet still is laggy at times even with this ripple effect turned off.
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Haven't totally verified it, but it looks like Samsung took away the Lock effect, watercolor, which gives the nice water sound and lets you splash around the colors on the opening lock screen. Will find out more tomorrow, anyone else experiencing this same option missing ?
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Yes, the feature seems to be gone along with the option in settings to enable it.
Mark
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Yes, the feature seems to be gone along with the option in settings to enable it.
Mark
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almost ready to return tablet ...cant take samsung and the way they do the updates. total disregard for the user, not fixing the real bugs instead taking away a feature that I found to be quite soothing and liked very much. just frustrating company. I will do a video tomorrow and lets see how samsung responds to my doozy of a video.
Who cares about the water color effect
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Who cares about the water color effect
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Seriously. Normally I wouldn't comment on something like this, but if that's what makes you bring the tablet back....smh
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The newest update definitely made the tablet smoother. I am impressed that they put out 3 updates in one month to make the tablet better.
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The newest update definitely made the tablet smoother. I am impressed that they put out 3 updates in one month to make the tablet better.
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Ok, well Im wondering what lag you guys are referring to. My point was that all samsung had to do was give an option to turn off, the effect, for those that wanted to, and they could have stated it makes the tablet slightly if any faster. Anyway, Believe it or not, I was able to add it back in for those who like to use it and guess what the lag issues are still fixed. The app is called galaxy locker here is the link and it works like a charm.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lockscreen.galaxy
I wonder if part of the reason for turning it off was for the multiuser cause they needed to make the lock screen more like AOSP?
I thought I was going insane when I turned my tablet on and the watercolor effect was gone. I am hoping they bring it back or at least replace it with something better-looking than the current Tab 3 lock screen.
Do you guys have a slight delay when you press the home button on the note until it lights up to the lockscreen? Mine is smooth are silk once I pass the lock screen but I still have that slightly delay
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Do you guys have a slight delay when you press the home button on the note until it lights up to the lockscreen? Mine is smooth are silk once I pass the lock screen but I still have that slightly delay
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My has about a 1 second delay. That is a little improved with the last update. I'm all for them taking out the eye candy like that lockscreen effect and focusing on the basic speed and quality of the apps.
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My has about a 1 second delay. That is a little improved with the last update. I'm all for them taking out the eye candy like that lockscreen effect and focusing on the basic speed and quality of the apps.
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Yep at this point it is the only delay I notice,
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Every samsung device I've ever used has this home button delay. Even though the hardware has gotten exponentially faster and the OS has become more and more optimized. At this point it's not a delay anymore, it's a feature.
Lol.. ok cool I was just checking. It's not a big deal. Once you're in I'd say it's definitely snappier since third update
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if you want it back that bad, and still want the fast speed (faster speed IMO), stick with th MJ6 firmware:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47171388&posted=1#post47171388
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if you want it back that bad, and still want the fast speed (faster speed IMO), stick with th MJ6 firmware:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47171388&posted=1#post47171388
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I've got it back, guess you didn't read the link i posted, which is an app thats downloadable from the play store. Im not rooting this yet. I like the samsung bloat.