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Finally i have my atrix! My mini review

Ok, here are my first impressions so far. Android is mostly unknown in Venezuela so i don't have any prior experience to relate to, but i do have an ipod touch 4g to compare with the OS and such.
-The phone refused to do anything without a sim card, either valid or invalid. As soon as i inserted my invalid sim card, i could do the blur wizard on WiFi and continue.
-Screen is rather nice, it's not AMOLED, but since i haven't owned any AMOLED devices (ipod is lcd) i don't feel it sucks in comparison. Some text is a little blurry, colors not that rich, but i like it.
-Phone seems speedy. Flash on a webpage indeed worked and didn't seem laggy. Except pinch to zoom way sucks, it's isn't fluid anywhere, iOS definitely wins here.
-Camera is better than i expected, since i expected purple pics. Seems ok. Shot 720p video, 20 seconds is 30 MB, huge!
-Alarms won't work with the phone off. This sucks, i don't want to leave the phone on when sleeping (want to save the battery, i don't want any type of data sync). I know i can put it on airplane mode, but it sucks. Every phone i have owned for 15 years has been able to wake itself on. Also, no auto on or auto off like my blackberry does. I know that there are apps for auto off (tasker?), but still this sucks.
-LED is tiny, doesn't do much by its own, needs external apps
-Blur isn't that bad, maybe because i haven't added any account to it. I installed facebook and twitter separately from the market, and am using the gmail app.
-Just enabled usb debugging, installed moto drivers, i see it under adb, time to root! Already purchased unlock code, will wait for it. Update: rooted with aroot, works fine so far.
-I want to make the display turn off at 30 seconds and the device to only lock after 5 minutes. While i have seen an option "security timer", i put it at 5 minutes but after 30 seconds i still needed to draw the finger horizontally to unlock it. Maybe i am not understanding this properly

please let us know when you unlock your phone to tell us if your wifi is working or not.
many users are reporting that when they unlocked their phone, their wireless no longer works.
and where did you get your unlock from " when you do "

Congrats and nice constructive review. Get root and you'll start to appreciate more. I was using an IPhone 4 and the screen didn't seen quite as nice but my eyes have adjusted rather well and i'm really enjoying the Atrix.
It has so much more, I dont think I could ever use the fruit phone again. Have fun
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ll_l_x_l_ll said:
many users are reporting that when they unlocked their phone, their wireless no longer works.
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unlocked mine last week and mine is working fine (Telstra Aus)

xdaLurker said:
Congrats and nice constructive review. Get root and you'll start to appreciate more. I was using an IPhone 4 and the screen didn't seen quite as nice but my eyes have adjusted rather well and i'm really enjoying the Atrix.
It has so much more, I dont think I could ever use the fruit phone again. Have fun
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The LCD screen color in the Atrix is all wrong. The yellow looks lime green and this is not sure even if it's software fixable!

squarejp said:
The LCD screen color in the Atrix is all wrong. The yellow looks lime green and this is not sure even if it's software fixable!
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actually its, nexus S users have been having same problem and VOODOO was released and now they have a program that adjust the colors based on your desire.
now they dont have pink gray in low brightness or yellowish white screen " those are the issues they used to have "
so all you need is to wait to get this rooted. and by the look of it, we are not very far from it according to the recent development in the last couple of days.

tjjensen23 said:
unlocked mine last week and mine is working fine (Telstra Aus)
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thats encouraging. good to hear that someone got his atrix wifi to work after the unlock. been alot of bad wifis recently

if my wifi stops working after unlocking i will flash the sbf that has been leaked. some users are saying this fixes their problems.
A couple of questions:
Can you configure the time that the display turns off independently of the time that the device locks? I want to turn off the display after 30 seconds, but only want the device to lock after 5 minutes. I have seen an app to disable locking , but not exactly what i want.
My only workaround for the alarm issue is to go on airplane mode and kill all apps before going to sleep. That way i can leave the phone on and the alarm works, but i would have to open again gmail and twitter manually each morning. I have seen a paid app that lets you configure certain tasks (tasker) but wanted to know if there is an alternative.

Why should we update?

Why should we update? Did the phone get faster in terms of lock screen, the finger print scanner get better? ...etc Post it here!

fRenZy-_- said:
Why should we update? Did the phone get faster in terms of lock screen, the finger print scanner get better? ...etc Post it here!
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because motorola told you to.

much better SQ out of headphone jack

justdrew said:
much better SQ out of headphone jack
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is there anymore lag on the lockscreen, like you dont have to slide twice?

****ing awesome battery life!

fRenZy-_- said:
is there anymore lag on the lockscreen, like you dont have to slide twice?
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out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.

aszrael1266 said:
out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.
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Are you over exaggeraring? Be honest. Because if this is the case, I may be willing to give up root for it.
Your telling me that the camera and screen quality is better? Are you certain that the lock screen slider is much more responsive?
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Sorry one more thing. Do you think the new added responsiveness only applies to blur? Im using launcher pro, do you think that would become more responsive? Thanks
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aszrael1266 said:
out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.
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I did initially think the camera was crap until I viewed its pictures on my PC, so I know what you're talking about. But... would software really be able to save the natural crappiness of AMOLED PenTile?

Sofware could fix this and the atrix is not AMOLED just pentile
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Is the update still only available to beta testers?
From all the posts it makes it seem it is available for anyone though a check for updates does nothing for me.

Personally, I would caution everyone before updating. There are numerous issues behind the scenes that need to be worked out. Can not divulge details, but I would personally wait until it has been tested further.

seh6183 said:
Are you over exaggeraring? Be honest. Because if this is the case, I may be willing to give up root for it.
Your telling me that the camera and screen quality is better? Are you certain that the lock screen slider is much more responsive?
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Sorry one more thing. Do you think the new added responsiveness only applies to blur? Im using launcher pro, do you think that would become more responsive? Thanks
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I've never used blur on my phone. The first app I put on it as soon as it was opened was luncher pro so I can't say how blur acts now. Its not the camera that has improved its the display of the phone. I do believe it can be done by software by adjusting the phones display (I.E. changing gama and other little behind the scenes things to make colors stand out more)
From what I know the update should be pushed out today. It does take some time and I thought my phone froze up while updating but it just takes time after the phones its first reboot so be patient. As far as brightness goes having it turned down as low as it can get its still brighter then it was before at 20-30%. I use to keep the phone at about 15-20% and now with it turned down as much as I can get it, it is still brighter then before.

aszrael1266 said:
I've never used blur on my phone. The first app I put on it as soon as it was opened was luncher pro so I can't say how blur acts now. Its not the camera that has improved its the display of the phone. I do believe it can be done by software by adjusting the phones display (I.E. changing gama and other little behind the scenes things to make colors stand out more)
From what I know the update should be pushed out today. It does take some time and I thought my phone froze up while updating but it just takes time after the phones its first reboot so be patient. As far as brightness goes having it turned down as low as it can get its still brighter then it was before at 20-30%. I use to keep the phone at about 15-20% and now with it turned down as much as I can get it, it is still brighter then before.
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Is there a time frame I should be worried about here? Im rooted, have the webtop hack, and the adeo rom. Do I need to put all this back to stock before a certain time or ill miss out on the update?
The only thing I would be sacrificing is root. I am new to android, in your guys experience, how long does it take for updates to get rooted after they are released. I just don't think I want to give up root yet because I enjoy freezing all this CRAP that moto put on the phone.
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So the update will be "pushed" to the phones automatically if not rooted? Our does it need to be downloaded from MOTO...?
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If I do the update I my phone wont reset right? Ill keep all my apps and settings?
Never live in the past but always learn from it.

seh6183 said:
Is there a time frame I should be worried about here? Im rooted, have the webtop hack, and the adeo rom. Do I need to put all this back to stock before a certain time or ill miss out on the update?
The only thing I would be sacrificing is root. I am new to android, in your guys experience, how long does it take for updates to get rooted after they are released. I just don't think I want to give up root yet because I enjoy freezing all this CRAP that moto put on the phone.
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If you're not up to date and you do a system update check, if there is any new updates, it should finded it. But as far as I know, the updates will be there if your phone is not up to date...
Rooting an update depends on the dev community backing the phone has, i.e. Droid X, which I had, updates were basically rooted within a day or so, look at the DX with the just released GB, it has a method for rooting already... and this phone doesn't look like it has as much dev backing, so it can take a while..
If you've done mods to your phone, and you try to update and it fails, it's most likey the mods are the ones stoping the updates, as it does checks on certain system files that need to match..

The update sounds great but I think ill wait for everyone to experiment with it first, then when the root comes out ill make the jump. Sounds like a lot of things that bothered me are fixed though. Too bad I can't grab it yet
I honestly probably would, im just scared as hell to try and remove these Adeo nods. The process looks involved. And I think I even read something that said wifi could break? Scary stuff
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I've done the update, retaining my root, and can confirm the phone is fast as hell. Use these guides:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991072
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12540398#post12540398
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I don't know how many here use swype, but I do, and i have seen a much better word recognition after the update. And i have kept root.

I think 4.1.26 is better. can easy be rooted and faster,I think.

I GOT ICS!!!!!!!!!!!!

JUST PUSHED
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and did you do this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22871384

baseballfanz said:
and did you do this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22871384
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No sir! I woke up, and looked at my pad (for clock) and it said firmware update

baseballfanz said:
and did you do this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22871384
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I did Here it is

Yep, I was watching video when it asked me to update. Took around 10 minutes and kept all the data so everything functioned just like before. Except it looked better and the speed is amazing. Only down side that there is no face lock which I m hoping they will come up with an update!
Very satisfied customer here! Unlike my LG Optimus 2X phone which i m not expecting to get an update EVER.

Check if you have face lock
Its the us version right?

phillybizzle said:
No sir! I woke up, and looked at my pad (for clock) and it said firmware update
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Well i guess you're not going back to sleep anytime soon.

coolface said:
Yep, I was watching video when it asked me to update. Took around 10 minutes and kept all the data so everything functioned just like before. Except it looked better and the speed is amazing. Only down side that there is no face lock which I m hoping they will come up with an update!
Very satisfied customer here! Unlike my LG Optimus 2X phone which i m not expecting to get an update EVER.
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Face unlock is a gimmick anyways..I have it on my phone, you usually end up having to type in your pin or pattern anyways, it is a negligible feature.

I should have factory reset before updating, that first reboot regenerating everything loaded (I guess) is taking a LONG time.

Shadow_Android said:
Check if you have face lock
Its the us version right?
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yah i have it under security

WHOA! Look at that notification bar!!
IT'S BEAUTIFUL

Jyveafk said:
WHOA! Look at that notification bar!!
IT'S BEAUTIFUL
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LMAO that's the first thing I noticed too..I was like OMG SHINY!!! (moth to a flame)

luna_c666 said:
Face unlock is a gimmick anyways..I have it on my phone, you usually end up having to type in your pin or pattern anyways, it is a negligible feature.
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Wrong. I have it on my Galaxy Nexus and in 4.0.3 there's an option to improve face unlock. Just scan your face in different light, with/without glasses (if you have to wear) and in different angles (holding the phone in eye height, looking down on phone and so on) and face unlock works nearly everywhere except in total darkness. I took the time once and scanned about 30-40 situations, now face unlock works flawless.

I got it too, east coast DC area

How big?
Hi,
Can someone tell me what size it is? Want to see whether it is worth downloading or waiting till tonight?

qwer23 said:
Wrong. I have it on my Galaxy Nexus and in 4.0.3 there's an option to improve face unlock. Just scan your face in different light, with/without glasses (if you have to wear) and in different angles (holding the phone in eye height, looking down on phone and so on) and face unlock works nearly everywhere except in total darkness. I took the time once and scanned about 30-40 situations, now face unlock works flawless.
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I know this, but I have tried this, it still gives me 'no face found' or 'unable to recognize' failures often. Not to mention that it's just a major PITA to hold any device in a single position for it to recognize you (very unsafe while driving), and it takes a full 2-3 seconds longer to unlock than simply swiping in your pattern, which is the fallback if it doesn't recognize you anyway. I have not found a good use for it yet (presumably, wouldn't a photo of you work anyway? And isn't it easier for a criminal to get a picture of your face than to guess your pattern?)
Just saying, impractical gimmick. Fun to play with, but for anyone who uses their device often, they will get tired of looking at themselves while the device tries to recognize them..IMHO, FWIW

Is this true
Am I understood right that you have got factory update for stock ROM?
If so that is pity - I am on custom ROM

Or we all just wait until some able Dev creates a CWM recovery-flashable version :beer:
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Barcors said:
Am I understood right that you have got factory update for stock ROM?
If so that is pity - I am on custom ROM
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You can go back to stock You aren't stuck there lol just see the link in my sig (from the sounds of it though, you are still pretty green, and need to do A LOT of reading IMO before trying to do too much at once, you also need to determine if you are SBK1 or SBK2, my guide will help you determine this.)

Not a huge difference visually but huge performance boost!
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Ics face unlock missing

got my transformer updated last night to ics and I cant find face unlock in settings. can anyone help me find it? or is it not there for tablets?
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not available in this release for front cameras under 720p devs are working on it though already got it working on nexus s

ohh thanks man
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Owning a Nexus, it's annoying anyway... cool but annoying.
I played with it for a few days and it was more hassle then it was worth. You have to "Improve" it constantly at first for it to even work with some consistency.
What they need to do is set a timer so once you face unlock, it just requires a simple slide to unlock for a set period... like 15min of screen off time. When you are working on something and constantly having to take self pictures to unlock the damn thing, it becomes a pain.
Once you face unlock, it should know that you're "around" close by. I only need FaceUnlock when I haven't been on my tablet for 15+ minutes and gone.

player911 said:
Owning a Nexus, it's annoying anyway... cool but annoying.
I played with it for a few days and it was more hassle then it was worth. You have to "Improve" it constantly at first for it to even work with some consistency.
What they need to do is set a timer so once you face unlock, it just requires a simple slide to unlock for a set period... like 15min of screen off time. When you are working on something and constantly having to take self pictures to unlock the damn thing, it becomes a pain.
Once you face unlock, it should know that you're "around" close by. I only need FaceUnlock when I haven't been on my tablet for 15+ minutes and gone.
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I agree completely. It's nothing more than a gimmick at this point.

Yes it's missing but it is running in the background. If you check all apps you will see it has the force close option. I myself just disabled the app so not to waste resources.

mrevankyle said:
not available in this release for front cameras under 720p devs are working on it though already got it working on nexus s
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i dont think galaxy nexus got 720P FFC

LastStandingDroid said:
i dont think galaxy nexus got 720P FFC
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then you are wrong

player911 said:
Owning a Nexus, it's annoying anyway... cool but annoying.
I played with it for a few days and it was more hassle then it was worth. You have to "Improve" it constantly at first for it to even work with some consistency.
What they need to do is set a timer so once you face unlock, it just requires a simple slide to unlock for a set period... like 15min of screen off time. When you are working on something and constantly having to take self pictures to unlock the damn thing, it becomes a pain.
Once you face unlock, it should know that you're "around" close by. I only need FaceUnlock when I haven't been on my tablet for 15+ minutes and gone.
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Load AOKP onto it. It has an option to delay the lock for a while and it works pretty good. Stock ICS has this option too whenever you have a secure lock turned on (like a pin) right under the lock options in security. Not sure why it doesn't show up otherwise but whatever. Only problem is that if you manually lock the screen it'll still lock it completely, hence why I like the AOKP option better because it doesn't care how the phone turns off it only locks it after x amount of screen off time.

No face unlock

I didn't the official update and look at all the features and saw no face unlock in security options

CoryBlaze said:
I didn't the official update and look at all the features and saw no face unlock in security options
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yes the front camera from the nexus s is too weak for that feature

you can use custom ROM if you want that feature
but sometimes it doesn't work properly

Not to mention it's fairly insecure: often times a photo of the face will suffice to unlock the phone...

if you want it flash your normal gaps then the facelock one from Jan
http://goo.im/gapps/

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Not to mention it's fairly insecure: often times a photo of the face will suffice to unlock the phone...
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I did this to my friends Galaxy nexus
he was trying facelock, i snapped a pic, and it worked instantly just by holding MY phone with his picture up to it lol.
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when it comes, it does not work reliably. better get the 'big' nexus for this

I tried flashing it manually on the Nexus S, and it worked (pretty bad, in fact).
I tried to improve the recognition via the menu (10-15 times in a row), and all I got was a bootloop (I had to wipe all and reflash ROM to get my phone back to normal)...
Simply put... don't do it

A fad
It's just a fad. Try driving and face unlocking your phone at the same time

Poriotis said:
It's just a fad. Try driving and face unlocking your phone at the same time
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And cue the uncontrollable laughter

Paleryder said:
if you want it flash your normal gaps then the facelock one from Jan
http://goo.im/gapps/
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Not really.
Just put a file called .forcefaceunlock in the root off the storage before flashing latest gapps and there you go!
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Visidon: as good as it gets; imho best for the ns.
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