Related
I hate to say it but I am having 3g issues. By that I mean no 3g and one to two bars. Usually I have perfect reception.
Sent from my ADR6300 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
i've noticed on the incredible that my displayed signal strength isn't as strong as it is on my droid. haven't noticed a difference in call reception or data speeds though...yet.
Eris users have noticed the same thing as you bzbz when compared to the Droid. Could be the cpu or something else HTC vs Motorola.
i've noticed on the incredible that my displayed signal strength isn't as strong as it is on my droid. haven't noticed a difference in call reception or data speeds though...yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I noticed the same thing but my download/upload speeds are just as fast if not faster. I gave my Droid to my mom and took her upgrade so I have both side by side, off WiFi downloading a movie and the Incredible is actually 20-50kbs faster than my old Droid and yes the Droid is over clocked with petes 1ghz kernel.
I have had the Incredible for a couple of days, and I've noticed a lower displayed signal strength than I'd see on my Droid in the same locations.
But I've not experienced any reception issues, and my internet speed seems the same or faster.
This is what I expected. We all know that you can't count on those reception bars to compare different phones, and also that Moto tends to have better radios/reception than everyone else anyway. As long as you're phone's radio is close to Moto's in the ability to make/receive calls, then normally you're not doing bad.
well it's good to know that the signal strength concern may be more of a "cosmetic" issue than a legitimate performance issue.
daftlush said:
I hate to say it but I am having 3g issues. By that I mean no 3g and one to two bars. Usually I have perfect reception.
Sent from my ADR6300 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
how is the quality on said reception? Other people's replies seem to indicate good quality even with less bars.
BzBz said:
well it's good to know that the signal strength concern may be more of a "cosmetic" issue than a legitimate performance issue.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This...
It is definitely cosmetic, the newest radio i have installed on my eris does the same. The reception on my eris is better then my friends with the older radio, but he has more 3G bars.
designerfx said:
how is the quality on said reception? Other people's replies seem to indicate good quality even with less bars.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It may just be the way HTC displays the signal. I know on the Touch Pro 2 and Touch Pro, the signal indicator frequently shows incorrect (lower) signal strength but works fine.
I compared signal strength between my BB Curve 8330 and my new Incredible.
In spite of the indicated signal strength being lower on the Incredible, the dBm was the same. It's only one location and one user, but I suspect it's not an actual signal strength issue.
i used my incredible all day. i work in a downtown area with many tall building surrounded and i still got a good 3g signal and speed.
from Boston.
the 3G speeds on my incredible are slower that my 2G G1 running on AT&T. i get les than 200 kbps downstream. My friend with a droid standing in the same room will get aound 1100 Kbps. What gives??
if you are haveing a tough time with a signal.. I update my roaming towers... I had an issue today where I couldn't get much.. I did *228 option 2 and it updated my roaming towers and have had no problems since... sometimes you need to do that with a new phone so it knows exactly what towers to look for
tried the *228 to update. Update was successful but no improvment. still have very slow data speeds and terrible call quality. reception stays about around -100 dBm
I'm also noticing what appears to be poor reception. I was getting better reception with my Droid than I am with Incredible. I've tried the *228 last night and this morning but that hasn't helped. Hopefully there will eventually be some kind of software fix for this. I'm seeing other threads on other sites with the same kind of complaints so I don't think it's a select few who are experiencing this issue.
hoop762 said:
the 3G speeds on my incredible are slower that my 2G G1 running on AT&T. i get les than 200 kbps downstream. My friend with a droid standing in the same room will get aound 1100 Kbps. What gives??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your speed will depend on what tower your connected to. on my Eris, I've gone from 1mbps/0.70mbps in New York, NY to 2mbps/2mbps in West Haven, CT. It's not the phone. The newer radio on the Incredible will show less bars, but your signal strength will be fine .(dBm)
My phone keeps dropping 3G my droid never has done this in the location the incredible is. I will go into airplane mode then back out and I will have 3g again
Over at Androidforums there is a thread going regarding reception issues. On page 2 is some help in running a debug on the phone that will give you dbm levels and some other info. I'm not sure how to use the info the debug gives but perhaps it may be of some use to someone here.
The link is http://androidforums.com/htc-incredible/70223-weak-signal-strength.html
rckeystone said:
Over at Androidforums there is a thread going regarding reception issues. On page 2 is some help in running a debug on the phone that will give you dbm levels and some other info. I'm not sure how to use the info the debug gives but perhaps it may be of some use to someone here.
The link is http://androidforums.com/htc-incredible/70223-weak-signal-strength.html
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You don't need to go into field test mode like this guy said, all you need to do is from the home screen > menu > setting > about phone > network.
Here you will see signal strength (typical between -100 to -80dBm) the closer to 0 you are the better your signal is (ie: 80dBm > 90dBm)
Hope that clears up some confusion. I've tested both the motodroid and the incredible side by side in a location with low signal and can say that my incredible gets better signal than the droid, even though the "bars" don't indicate as such.
my signal always stays at -81, is that a good thing?
im a new android and 3g user
A VZW macro-antenna was recently placed on the building across the street from where I work, and for the first week after I returned from Christmas vacation, I'd have a solid 3-4 bars all day long. Since doing more extensive ROM/kernel modifications to my phone, I notice that my reception will jump around a lot... 4 bars, 1 bar, 3 bars, 2 bars, 4 bars, 1 bar, etc.
Using a signal widget confirms that it does actually vary quite a bit... such as suddenly dropping from -86dmb to -106dbm, then bouncing back to -86 without the phone having been moved.
Has anyone else experienced anything like this or have any idea what might be causing it and what I could try to alleviate the issue? I suppose I could go back to the adrynalyn's 12/12 test kernel (the one that came with DJ05), but as I'm currently using both Voodoo lagfix and sound, I'd really rather not have to do all that.
Currently using Superclean 0.9, JT's 1/23 voodoo5 + lagfix + sound. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
I dont have exact DB measurements but I can tell you that just sitting at my desk at work my 3G connection speed varies from 1mbit to 10kbit in about 4 seconds sometimes. The network just dies. It slowly builds back up to 1mbit and then dies again. Pandora streaming is annoying.
edit: after 4th try of *228 option 2 i now am getting better signal and 1.8 down and .6 up....maybe verizon was having issues in my area and now they have it fixed...we shall see
xlinth said:
edit: after 4th try of *228 option 2 i now am getting better signal and 1.8 down and .6 up....maybe verizon was having issues in my area and now they have it fixed...we shall see
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have had problems using that kernel (Superclean 0.9, JT's 1/23 voodoo5 + lagfix + sound.), with my cell signal dropping out entirely at random times.
Once I went back to the previous kernel I was using, everything was fine again.
How long have you been using your current kernel?
Im using adrynalyns latest i think ...with voodoo and voodoo sound fix...for about a week now....i've tried just about every kernel i could find but still had the same problem. *228 has done the trick so far......my signal is low but is constant....its no longer dropping to 2g at least.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
I thought the 3g to 1x problems got fixed with DL09 (stock rom) but it still appears to be a problem when I get in a low coverage area. My friends HTC Eris with the same low coverage still maintains the 3g while my Fascinate starts to switch to 1x and won’t grab 3g until a reboot or at least 3 bars of coverage are present. I tried *228 several times with no luck. Any ideas?
I have downloaded both Real Signal and Signal Status from the market. I keep having issues with my data not working(it's been ongoing since I got the phone.), so I wanted to know what my actual dBms were. But for some reason, on both apps, the highest evdo reading I get is about -3 and the lowest is about -30. But I don't know what that means in terms of real signal as everything I can find on google and that I understand, it should be between -60ish and -115ish but I have never seen those numbers on the evdo side. Am I wrong? I understand that it is the same dBm as 1rxtt, and I know they are different tech, but I would think it would be similar any way. However, I don't know antenna tech at all. So that's why I posted the question here. I have done a google search with no real relevant results, but I didn't search XDA specifically, as I thought if there were any relevant results they would have popped up in my google search. And all the relevant postings that I came up with said the same as my assumption. That signal should be between -60ish and -120ish.
Thanks again for all the help, you guys are awesome.
1 bar ~ -102 to -120 dBM
2 Bars ~ -93 to -101 dBM
3 Bars ~ -87 to -92 dBM
4 Bars ~ -78 to -86 dBM
5 Bars ~ -40 to -77 dBM
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was able to hunt down that chart (Granted it was for a BB, however I would imagine the info would still roughly apply to any device), but I was not able to locate any real description of bars vs dBM. However, from what I've read before, just because you have a lower dBM (IE: -40) doesn't really mean you're going to have full bars/better service. I could be wrong, but from most of what I've read over time showed it was only a very vague correlation.
Do you get intermittent loss of data where only the right arrow under the 3G icon is active? That happens to me frequently as well and I have to go in and out of airplane mode to reconnect. Some of us think Blur causes it.
Sent from my DROID2 using XDA App
Granted, I only kept the stock rom for about 3 days before I installed a custom, blur-less rom. However, I seem to recall having some data issues while using the stock rom. I donno if it was part of blur or something else causing it. However ever since I've flashed to a new rom I havent had a single issue.
I've been having issues with data like this, too. I have put an Airplane toggle widget on my home screen just for this. I am near Fort Collins, CO, but I guess it looks like people may have narrowed it down to ROM issues and not location or Verizon.
Maybe they'll fix it when they roll us out to Gingerbread.
silverfang77 said:
Do you get intermittent loss of data where only the right arrow under the 3G icon is active? That happens to me frequently as well and I have to go in and out of airplane mode to reconnect. Some of us think Blur causes it.
Sent from my DROID2 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes. It happens quite frequently, and an airplane toggle usually fixes it.
-Gilgamesh- said:
Granted, I only kept the stock rom for about 3 days before I installed a custom, blur-less rom. However, I seem to recall having some data issues while using the stock rom. I donno if it was part of blur or something else causing it. However ever since I've flashed to a new rom I havent had a single issue.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have wondered myself if it wasn't blur issues. It freezes all the time, and fiancees Ally doesn't have the freezing problem and general laggyness. And I know hers only has a slow 600 Mhz processor and is just a budget smartphone.
-Gilgamesh- said:
I was able to hunt down that chart (Granted it was for a BB, however I would imagine the info would still roughly apply to any device), but I was not able to locate any real description of bars vs dBM. However, from what I've read before, just because you have a lower dBM (IE: -40) doesn't really mean you're going to have full bars/better service. I could be wrong, but from most of what I've read over time showed it was only a very vague correlation.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Then should it be possible for me to hit single digits? I don't recall ever having a lower signal than -30 and it stays typically in the -8 to -20 range. When I was at about -100 cell service, I was at about -8 to-10 evdo. So something still must not be right with my phone. right now I am at -76 cell and -2 to -4 Ev.
I am seeing the same thing on my phone. I have ~87dBM cell service, and ~7dBM for evdo. I have always understood Verizon's voice and data network to be separate, I suppose this just goes to confirm that.
Here's a way to confirm if it's a problem with Blur, as opposed to VZW's network. Is there anyone who had this problem on the D2 with the stock ROM and then had the problem completely disappear (or at least reduce in frequency) after switching to Liberty ROM, or one of the others?
All my issues dried up when I flashed a custom rom.
I work in the industry. A -80 is generally the number you want to shoot for as far as having a good usable signal. Anything higher would be even better. Although once you get past -50 or so the signal is kind of hot and may cause issues. Anything lower is a bad signal (-90/-100) and would also cause issues.
Sent from my DROID2 using XDA App
I had 3g issues with the droid 1 and cyanogen but Never with blur or liberty/droid 2 from the same house. I have noticed some "cell standby" signal loss on liberty but never really bad like some cyanogen builds..don't overclock and see if that helps.
Sent from my DROID2 using Tapatalk
I have given this modem several chances and it has disappointed me everytime. I consistently get 300 kbs less at home on my Airave on 3G. Out of the house it stops downloading in the middle. Speed is up and down. I lose internet off and on. All on 3G. 3G icon sits there but no blue arrows flash. Sometimes I have to toggle airplane mode several times to get 3G going again.
The only good thing I have found is that I can connect to 4G in my living room consistenetly where the EC05 modem was hit or miss. So if you use 4G all the time this may be a good modem for you. for 3G...throw it out.
I had problems with 3G (dropping out and not coming back) and GPS lock when I first flashed the EE03 modem. Second time around GPS locked and I haven't had the dropped 3G issue since that first flash. Not sure what's up with that, you'd think the problems would be consistent. However, im prolly not the best gauge as I have Wifi everywhere I go. I use 3G sparingly. I haven't compared speeds between the two modems though.
kennyglass123 said:
I have given this modem several chances and it has disappointed me everytime. I consistently get 300 kbs less at home on my Airave on 3G. Out of the house it stops downloading in the middle. Speed is up and down. I lose internet off and on. All on 3G. 3G icon sits there but no blue arrows flash. Sometimes I have to toggle airplane mode several times to get 3G going again.
The only good thing I have found is that I can connect to 4G in my living room consistenetly where the EC05 modem was hit or miss. So if you use 4G all the time this may be a good modem for you. for 3G...throw it out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
p3dr0maz said:
I had problems with 3G (dropping out and not coming back) and GPS lock when I first flashed the EE03 modem. Second time around GPS locked and I haven't had the dropped 3G issue since that first flash. Not sure what's up with that, you'd think the problems would be consistent. However, im prolly not the best gauge as I have Wifi everywhere I go. I use 3G sparingly. I haven't compared speeds between the two modems though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, that's why I gave it the best test possible with an Airave. I get 1.8Mbs with EC05 and 1.5Mbs with the EE03.
3g signal and strength seems a little stronger for me but not by a whole lot. I've been running it without any issues.
3g drops constantly with ee03. Can't wait for a stable gingerbread!
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA Premium App
EE03 speed up my connection quite a bit. No issues here, and paired with SRF 1.1.1, my phone is extremely fast.
I'm fine with it. Little difference
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
For those with EE03, does it write/change your Wimax settings. I changed a bunch of mine while using ED05, namely the min signal strength toconnect. Default was like -89 and I lowered mine to -94. Def able to connect more, but if it doesn't... u can just watch the bat guage spin. Just wondering if increased performance with the new modem may be due to tweaking the settings.
I had changed my 3G extensions... blanked them all out. They got set back to default while flashing a ROM. Never got a chance to evaluate a difference. Are the ports/proxies set up the same with EE03? Maybe try blanking the 4 entries and see if that helps.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA Premium App
No changes, just flashed the modem.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
No way I love the ee03 modem. I used to have a lot of emails that I would send hang for the longest time. Haven't had a problem at all with ee03 modem. Also 3g speed is so much faster for me as well. Just my opinion.
Sent From My Evo Killer!
kennyglass123 said:
I have given this modem several chances and it has disappointed me everytime. I consistently get 300 kbs less at home on my Airave on 3G. Out of the house it stops downloading in the middle. Speed is up and down. I lose internet off and on. All on 3G. 3G icon sits there but no blue arrows flash. Sometimes I have to toggle airplane mode several times to get 3G going again.
The only good thing I have found is that I can connect to 4G in my living room consistenetly where the EC05 modem was hit or miss. So if you use 4G all the time this may be a good modem for you. for 3G...throw it out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you ever seen this behavior on eb13's and ec05's modem? I have and also dk28's modem. I have this pop up from time to time on various rom/modem combinations and I'm starting to think its some sort of RIL bug or 3g handshake bug, maybe even some sort of permissions bug (really I have no clue tho).
I see this happen from time to time. I'm in a spot that always has 3g, but what happens, it just sits there loading, all the while my 3g icon is dormant, doing nothing. Then out of the blue it goes to 1x and starts working, but only with 1x, then when its done loading whatever, it will bring 3g back and it may or may not repeat the same thing again when I try to pull data. Note; occasionally it will retain 3g, but be hexa slow.....1~10kbps slow.....ouch, that's slow.
That was why I spoke of a modem binge in some other threads. Originally I thought it was sprints network taking a dump in my hand(set). Now after seeing an evo getting 3g right next to me, while mine was stalling and eventually dropped to 1x and also trying every decent modem. I have to believe the problem is in my phone some place.
Only thing I have recently discovered to work is to fix permissions in rom manager, I don't use rom manager for anything, except fixing permissions. The only reason I even tried fixing permissions in rom manager, was after fixing permissions in cwm (3.0.0.6) my phone would (sometimes) get stuck in a boot loop and the only way to fix it would be to clear cache and dalvik cache or restore a backup in cwm. However this modem bug/issue still pops up from time to time, mostly when the phone has been sleeping for 10minutes or more.
I actually think the ee03 modem is pretty good. Just my problems are not.
i wouldnt know lol ive been stuck on dk28 since the usb ports on my laptop are broken
I'm unable to connect to GPS and I don't like how switching from WiFi to 3g necessitates me enabling airplane mode
Sent from my fully armed and operational epic battle station
@Epic4gee...Yeah, I got those symptoms but only going to the EE03 modem. Maybe it is a tower/modem issue for me. But the biggest thing is that it is slower on an Airave which should be the best connection I could get with a 30Mbs broadband connection. I could pass off the connection drops as Sprint but not the speed difference.
Yeah 3g sucked for me too
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA Premium App
I'm calling malarchy on this thread since this morning I was getting 1.2 mbs/s on 3g, 7.45 mbs/s on 4g and 17.07 mbs/s on wifi with multiple attempts. I think like all devices thios varies by region, modem software and device hardware. It'll never hit that venn diagram where all 3 circles coexist at their highest points. I was probably in some mecca of coverage this morning.
The Root said:
I'm calling malarchy on this thread since this morning I was getting 1.2 mbs/s on 3g, 7.45 mbs/s on 4g and 17.07 mbs/s on wifi with multiple attempts. I think like all devices thios varies by region, modem software and device hardware. It'll never hit that venn diagram where all 3 circles coexist at their highest points. I was probably in some mecca of coverage this morning.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you put the EC05 modem back on and test it in the same area? You will get about 200-300 kbs more in speed on 3G. I consistently tested this on the fastest connection possible, an Airave with Broadband 30Mbs connection. EC05 is faster, EE03 connects to 4G better in low signal areas.
kennyglass123 said:
Did you put the EC05 modem back on and test it in the same area? You will get about 200-300 kbs more in speed on 3G. I consistently tested this on the fastest connection possible, an Airave with Broadband 30Mbs connection. EC05 is faster, EE03 connects to 4G better in low signal areas.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have 4g in my city, why would I ever use 3g unless I really had to? My 3g has always been jack unless in specific circumstances. I've actually noticed it to be zippier while lacking the download test results.
pjames said:
i wouldnt know lol ive been stuck on dk28 since the usb ports on my laptop are broken
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
christ man...i think i could negotiate a flash off a laptop at bestbuy/staples/officemax if i was that screwed
go get a library card or rent/buy a friend for a minute
hell go rent a laptop from rent-a-center for a week
i see people give away p3/p4 computers on craigslist like they are going out of style...oh wait...they are...but hell they still do work
consider broadening your horizons just slightly past your own living room
thats all i'm sayin
hell take a walk onto a college campus and have a seat or a high school
people will help you...you just gotta ask
I see a major improvement in the signal with the ee03 modem. I live in portland, and went from 2-3 bounding bars to a steady 4. My 4g still disconnects in my apartment, but it is stronger than it was outside my building.
I'm trying the new kg6 modem in Cyanogenmod and miui rom, since I've 2 galaxy s for testing. I notice a very speedy call connecting, seems to be very better different from the good kg3.
So you notice it too?
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
i have done now speedtest. With kg3 download speed 1600kb now 2100kb. Upload 1400 and now 1600.
Also little 3g h h+ fixed, now swapping only one time when you use the mobile data.
And also seems to be that reception signal bar have got a different calibration (or more device sensibility to mobile signal)
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
Anyone got a link to the modem zip file?
i tried this modem and it drained my battery like mad compared to kg3/kf2 that i have used before this one.
data speeds were ok but signal was really really low hence the draining of my battery .
KG6 improved broadband connectivity a lot for me, always getting "H" now. It's true that its draining more battery, but I also installed Lite'ning v5 ROM (which is KG6 based), so I can't tell exactly if the extra battery drain is only due to the modem component of the KG6 release or to some other custom-kernel related issues.
I'm not sure if it's placebo effect or not. But it does seem improve the 3G, H+ speed quite a bit. I'm with AT&T in NYC but just did a test, the download speed broke 5mbps for the first time ever.
My 3G connection has sped up significantly and I am also finding that I have reception in places that I usually would not.
YAYY
Yes, my signal seems to be much better than KG2 and this was the first time i got a 7.5mbps download speed.
I use KG6 and have no excess battery drain .
|I have an increase of about 10% in WiFi strength over KG3 .
jje
Best for me so far,had no probs with it draining the batt.
I downloaded and installed this modem on my SGS1, and it worked. More than worked, it was amazing. Problem is now that I'm reading about it, potentially was a mistake and harmful to the phone. Any thoughts?
You will probably be ok with a modem on SGS1 ..
KH3 faster for me in all tests .
jje
How does it compare to KH3?
here is the zip file
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N1ZRP48L
sushay said:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N1ZRP48L
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I doubt anyone cares, really.
well, was certainly worth bumping a 3 month old thread for this.