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Galaxy tab hit by poor sales, production halved

It sounds like a bad news for us Samsung galaxy tab owner. Probably there will be
price reductions in the future.
http://www.devicemag.com/2010/11/17/samsung-galaxy-tab-hit-by-poor-sales-production-halved/

elnoxvie said:
It sounds like a bad news for us Samsung galaxy tab owner. Probably there will be
price reductions in the future.
http://www.devicemag.com/2010/11/17/samsung-galaxy-tab-hit-by-poor-sales-production-halved/
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If the carriers in the US allowed phone, I believe it would be selling quite well.

Just my .02, but i almost guarantee if the phone was functioning, sales would be awesome!! Either way, I love my two tabs, they are perfect in size, speed, and everything! Great device in all.
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That is from one analysts speculation. I'll believe it when I see multiple analyst with the same conclusion.

Just keep in mind that this "production halved" bull**** is coming from ONE source, an analyst named Ashok Kumar. He's not the most reliable of sources.
Here's a breakdown on his ****ed up predictions and analysis just up to last summer, and just about Apple:
http://daringfireball.net/2010/09/kumar_track_record

No evidence or references whatsoever are provided for this info.
Article says "Info suggests" and "an analyst suggests"...
Give me a break... until references and numbers are given... sounds like bs to moi.
I do agree that US sales would be up if it could be used as a phone tho.

xexes said:
No evidence or references whatsoever are provided for this info.
Article says "Info suggests" and "an analyst suggests"...
Give me a break... until references and numbers are given... sounds like bs to moi.
I do agree that US sales would be up if it could be used as a phone tho.
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I would personally think that he does make a little bit of sense on the pricing part. Despite the great features, performance and stability, the price is a too high compared to IPhone which is heavily subsidized when you signed up with some carriers. Not mine but i know most of the carriers don't subsidize much for this phone.

elnoxvie said:
It sounds like a bad news for us Samsung galaxy tab owner. Probably there will be
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How is that bad news for Samsung Tab owners???? I already have one and yes the price will drop but I knew that when I bought mine.... I wanted to enjoy it now and not wait to save a few bucks....
The price drops on everything and there is always a better device on the horizon...

Phone should have been working. Price? Can't blame them for attempting to match Apple, but think the advantages at coming a /bit/ lower would have outweighed the loss of profit per unit.
Least they can drop the price now/offer more features. If they'd have started low, as great as it would have been, if sales had been crazy off the wall, they'd never be able to raise the prices.
So...
Maybe, there's probably a bit of truth to it. If there's a whole load of bundling announced soon (which will be the first step, not dropping the price) it'll be telling.
We'll see.

Not selling well
Here in Thailand it is hard to get your hands on one as it seams the first batch has been sold out.

Hey guys,
i just got mine from Taipei last week, its sold out everwhere over there. I heard their next shipment from the distributors is by the end of the month.
I luckily got mine on the last day of my trip after 2 weeks of constant searching!
the Tab rocks!
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The Tab is selling just fine. They are launching it on 4 carriers.. and when AT&T launches next week it'll be on all 4. It's selling fine. Try and find one in stock at a Sprint store in the Bay Area - I dare you.

I was in a Swisscom shop yesterday here in Switzerland, and they mentioned that they can't get enough in Stock.

here in the philippines it is also almost out of stock very hard to find a shop with remaining stocks also

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here in the philippines it is also almost out of stock very hard to find a shop with remaining stocks also
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Oh ****.. Good to hear it's selling well in other countries and that the analyst is wrong. More sales = More development = More benefits for users..

oxeneers said:
The Tab is selling just fine. They are launching it on 4 carriers.. and when AT&T launches next week it'll be on all 4. It's selling fine. Try and find one in stock at a Sprint store in the Bay Area - I dare you.
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did you get the sprint version?

Can't seem to keep them in stock in Canada either. Article is FUD at best. Got mine and I love it.

plain and simple. People will or wont buy it. period.
I love analysts that try and "speculate" on sales forecasts on a device that just got released in a major market what...2 weeks ago?
Did i become impatient and pay the full price? hell ya. am i regretting it? hell no. This is the exact device I've been waiting for...I've played with a ton of different tablets including the original laptop - spin screen tablets...and this is hands down my favorite.
Pocket legends = wow....seriously? on a phone? its every bit as good as the original Everquest graphics were.
enough soap boxing....gonna go waste my day with PL now...as one of my favoritely mocked actors would say... "Shuck it Kumar...Shuck it loooong and hard!"

International version probably does better than North American but it should be no surprise to the carriers because potential customers having been voicing all along that:
International
Voice enabled
More competitive unlimited data plans
North American
No voice
Greedy tiered data plans
On top of that, the Tab's larger screen size is ideal for HD YouTube but there's no 4G on any NA version. I'm on Sprint and 3G buffers too much while watching HD Youtube.

looked at all the mobile manufacturer and nothing even compares to the screen size of the samsung will be released by the 1st quarter of 2011 and by far this is the dream phone i have been longing for a long time been speculating to buy an archos 70 and an android phone but the SGT really gives you the best of both worlds so enuff said this phone will definitely sell and it will have more developers working to port CFW definitely waiting for a cyanogen mod or even a Muiu would be nice

Samsung thinking of cutting prices

http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/03/04/samsung.worried.ipad.2.will.hurt.galaxy.tab.101/
It looks like the announcement of the iPad 2 is making Samsung rethink it's pricing strategy on the Galaxy 10.1. We can only hope that Xoom follows suit.

Would be too late for me! I got it for $600 anyway but i don't think Moto will budge in general. Perhaps with limited time offers.

Also in Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/04/samsung-finds-parts-of-galaxy-tab-10-1-inadequate-compared-to/
Price war has begun
Customer always win at the end when that happen!

Its a nice tab I just dont like Samsungs update policy.

DroidzFX said:
Its a nice tab I just dont like Samsungs update policy.
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I wonder if they will be better with the updates since the galaxy tab 10.1 is supposedly a Android 3.0 reference device (no touchWiz)

I can care less about anything made by Samsung. They need to rethink its policy on how they treat their customers here in the states it is rediculous that it has taken them so long to come out with froyo and I am fairly certain since they are coming to market with new phones that the galaxy lineup is not going to gingerbread. They get your money and leave you and move to the next. They really need to think a little more and get rid of the horrible touchwiz interface. Bad implememtation of the file system (even my mom and fiance hat that their fascinate lags so much), cheaply made plastic phones, and especiallystill no support for GPS. I don't know what they are doing but they sure as hell aren't supporting the phones they sold this last year. I will never buy anything samsung I know I would be pretty upset if I bought the galaxytab and now the price gets cut numerous times nd is being abandoned left with a phone is.

Even though I don't like Apple, the iPad 2 looks too irresistible, and with those prices Apple is winning this battle for now. The first iPad is now down to $399, and for somebody like me, who mainly wants apps, games, and movies, sounds like a no-brainer. That's the reason why I returned my xoom; lack of apps and games, no option to buy or rent movies, and for $799 plus tax I felt disrespected. Somebody better do something ASAP or else.
And yes! I'm whining!
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False rumors of the Atrix not selling/won't sell.

It is false rumors that this phone is not selling well/won't sell well.
1) It has just been released a few weeks ago . Just last week for Canada and not even released in other areas.
2) The Verizon equivalent (Bionic) has not been released yet which should really help in the Dev community for Atrix.
3) Atrix is a big commitment to Motorola & AT&T that they are advertising this thing like CRAZY
4) Sprint is getting the Atrix which will also boost sales and help the dev community.
5) Great reviews from all sites.
6) Other dual-core phones are still a ways off from being released. Plus inital benchmarks of these not looking good.
Plus as time goes by and people see the cool Tegra games, accessories through moto, how fast this phone is and its features. This will be a great seller PERIOD.

no. My dad works in the telecom biz, and knows alot of high up people at moto. This thing isn't selling well at all.
What's the point of a dual core if you have to view its power through a pentile screen that can't even recognize multitouch correctly?

Do you even have the phone? Have you looked at the screen? How many users does the screen "bug" affect?

The phone itself was rated 9/10 on engadget, catching many by surprise who've accused engadget for reserving that score solely for Apple products. Too bad the docks are premature at this stage, not to say overpriced!

It has not even been released outside US! I think far too early to tell whether it is not selling well...
But honestly, I think it would sell a lot BETTER if those crazy accessories came with a realistic price.

Techcruncher said:
no. My dad works in the telecom biz, and knows alot of high up people at moto. This thing isn't selling well at all.
What's the point of a dual core if you have to view its power through a pentile screen that can't even recognize multitouch correctly?
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Oh well that proves everything! Your dad works at a telecom business! WOW! Maybe Moto should hang it up then. Might as well not even release it on Sprint or Verizon. Hell your dad is master phone guy.
BTW every major phone out with an OLED is pentile and our pentile screen has 40% more pixels

Techcruncher said:
no. My dad works in the telecom biz, and knows alot of high up people at moto. This thing isn't selling well at all.
What's the point of a dual core if you have to view its power through a pentile screen that can't even recognize multitouch correctly?
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Sorry if I doubt this, you have been trolling these forums looking for any possible way to diss this phone.

colin725 said:
Sorry if I doubt this, you have been trolling these forums looking for any possible way to diss this phone.
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not really... I bought it
I'm not trying to troll, I'm just kinda pissed off that the screen looks washed out, especially compared to the dell venue (which is an amoled). I just hope moto patches the phone soon, and I'm sure a lot of you can agree with me on that.
It wasn't cheap.

Techcruncher said:
not really... I bought it
I'm not trying to troll, I'm just kinda pissed off that the screen looks washed out, especially compared to the dell venue (which is an amoled). I just hope moto patches the phone soon, and I'm sure a lot of you can agree with me on that.
It wasn't cheap.
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I paid 49.99 for mine by trading in a refurbished captivate that I got from AT&T for a penny by calling 611 and ordering it from them.
Then again I always find the cheapest route.
As for selling well, the majority of wireless phone users are dim witted technically challenged people who wouldn't know a good phone from a razr. Even if it were not selling well, it will sell enough for Moto to continue production for a while to come. As for your dad, no intending any offense by this, but unless he is a sales analyst and is watching the numbers personally and knows from first hand experience that it is not selling well, his information is second hand at best and completely useless when determining numbers.
I say give it six months and revisit the issue.

Techcruncher said:
no. My dad works in the telecom biz, and knows alot of high up people at moto. This thing isn't selling well at all.
What's the point of a dual core if you have to view its power through a pentile screen that can't even recognize multitouch correctly?
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Yea I call bs on your dad knowing anyone at motorola, its like saying my uncle who knows a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy father knows someone credibility kinda goes out the window.
Oh and ATT sold out on pre orders the day it was put on their website
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-backordered-high-volume-of-sales

This is reassuring to hear. Considering that in one of my posts, I regurgitated this false rumor, this is very good.
My apologies if I mislead anyone in that post.

Samsung Galaxy S II tops iPhone 4 sales in UK

http://www.mynextfone.co.uk/news/article/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-tops-iphone-4-sales-in-uk-
With so many GS2 users, I hope Samsung will take the GS2 seriously and fix current problems (battery, etc.). Also, It seems HTC lost much of its sales power (it seems that the Sensation simply can't compete).
To be honest it's not really a fair contest, as the iPhone 4 is last year's news. If iPhone 5 would have been released today, I think we know who would have won...

the linked page - not saying the facts are correct or incorrect, but come on, no source and no actual numbers? this is extremely amateurish.
and to your point that iP4 is too old to be compared to SGS2 I also want to add that UK sales of SGS2 are really actually INTERNATIONAL sales because many people from outside the UK bought their SGS2s through UK channels. Thousands a month I would estimate went off shore.

kreoXDA said:
the linked page - not saying the facts are correct or incorrect, but come on, no source and no actual numbers? this is extremely amateurish.
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That's exactly what I thought when I read it. The site doesn't look very reputable does it.

Noam23 said:
To be honest it's not really a fair contest, as the iPhone 4 is last year's news. If iPhone 5 would have been released today, I think we know who would have won...
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iPhone 5 would have won, we all know that. But I think, they wouldn't have won by "as much" as last year. Just look how many (of course I'm talking about the UK here) solid iPhone users have moved over to Android, or more specifically the GSII.
And I love how Apple release their iPhone - or at least used to - release their iPhone when it was the only thing in the market. Give speculation, tempt users to wait, they then see the flashing iPhone and then say, "oh that device I wanted a couple of months back is old now" So let's just get the iPhone 5.
This year (depending on when Android 4 or Ice Cream is released) it'll actually be vaguely fair. Of course Apple will win because Apple have a product cycle of 1 year. Each iPhone lasts about a year before their software begins to cut off features (to make up upgrade to the new one) and their marketing makes the older model should rubbish. Android phones (the top band) are meant to last longer, so there's no influx of sales. The sales are spread across various manufacturers' flagship models and over the course of the year and over the course of Android updates.
And so if these phones are released within a week of each other (which they won't be because Steve Jobs won't do that....he'll probably delay it) the sales, IMO won't be as huge as they were for the iPhone 4. They still win, but by not as much.

kreoXDA said:
and to your point that iP4 is too old to be compared to SGS2 I also want to add that UK sales of SGS2 are really actually INTERNATIONAL sales because many people from outside the UK bought their SGS2s through UK channels. Thousands a month I would estimate went off shore.
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Look at this:
http://www.samsunghub.com/2011/06/10/over-a-million-galaxy-s-ii-activated-in-south-korea/
1 million SGS2 devices sold in South Korea alone in the 4 weeks of May (!!!)... (just to compare, it took the original iPhone 74 days to reach 1 million users, globally !)
It's hard to comprehend that by now, there could be several million owners of SGS2 globaly. This is insane !!!
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Here is a comparison regarding the SGS2 vs iPhone 4 sales:
- iPhone 4 sold 3 million devices in its first month (Globally).
- SGS2 had 3 million pre-orders globally (that is, before it started to sell).
I think that the SGS2 might be the fastest selling smartphone, ever.

The more SGS2 Samsung sells the better the support will be, so keep on buying

daivik said:
iPhone 5 would have won, we all know that. But I think, they wouldn't have won by "as much" as last year. Just look how many (of course I'm talking about the UK here) solid iPhone users have moved over to Android, or more specifically the GSII.
And I love how Apple release their iPhone - or at least used to - release their iPhone when it was the only thing in the market. Give speculation, tempt users to wait, they then see the flashing iPhone and then say, "oh that device I wanted a couple of months back is old now" So let's just get the iPhone 5.
This year (depending on when Android 4 or Ice Cream is released) it'll actually be vaguely fair. Of course Apple will win because Apple have a product cycle of 1 year. Each iPhone lasts about a year before their software begins to cut off features (to make up upgrade to the new one) and their marketing makes the older model should rubbish. Android phones (the top band) are meant to last longer, so there's no influx of sales. The sales are spread across various manufacturers' flagship models and over the course of the year and over the course of Android updates.
And so if these phones are released within a week of each other (which they won't be because Steve Jobs won't do that....he'll probably delay it) the sales, IMO won't be as huge as they were for the iPhone 4. They still win, but by not as much.
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Nice post but we already have figures which show the SGS2 sold faster?

quad2012 said:
The more SGS2 Samsung sells the better the support will be, so keep on buying
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Well, the original Galaxy S sold about 10 million units globally (true to January 2011). I'm not sure the support was as great as owners hoped...

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Here is a comparison regarding the SGS2 vs iPhone 4 sales:
- iPhone 4 sold 3 million devices in its first month (Globally).
- SGS2 had 3 million pre-orders globally (that is, before it started to sell).
I think that the SGS2 might be the fastest selling smartphone, ever.
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I'm all for some iPhone bashing, and some trolling...
but that 3m pre-orders was from various carriers, not customers.

Rawat said:
I'm all for some iPhone bashing, and some trolling...
but that 3m pre-orders was from various carriers, not customers.
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ditto.....

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Well, the original Galaxy S sold about 10 million units globally (true to January 2011). I'm not sure the support was as great as owners hoped...
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At lest better than HTC, I cant even remember my Desire getting Gingerbread and even tough all the new sense versions were running just great on it HTC never oficially ported them, they just didnt care at all and pushed phone after phone after phone while samsung ported gingerbread and at least seems to help the community (donated cyanogen devs etc.). Compared to the rest of Manufacturers Samsung actually had a great support even for the sgs1 and I doubt sgs2 is getting a worse one.

Rawat said:
I'm all for some iPhone bashing, and some trolling...
but that 3m pre-orders was from various carriers, not customers.
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Even if you are right (and those 3 million pre-orders are not already at the hand of customers), we already know that it sold 1 million alone in South Korea (in 1 month), and it hasn't even started to sell in the USA, which is the biggest market !!, there is no chance that with the US market included it will fall behind the iPhone 4 sales.

I'm not going to explain in a 10 part post, but daivik is really smart and bullseye on topic. Everything he/she said is on the money
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Hmmm, let me think about this.... If someone comes out with a jackhammer that men can use to sodimize themselves with and it outsells the sgs2 would I care? No. I really dont care how good a piece of hardware it is or who likes it, just aint my thing. So it is with the iphone, if others enjoy it and like how their hardware functions and what it does for them, great. Let them sell a gazillion to those people and let them pour the coals to it. Its got nothing to do with me.

Sanchless said:
Nice post but we already have figures which show the SGS2 sold faster?
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I was just skimming the thread, before my post. And I got the impression that a few were saying that the GSII sales weren't as high. And so I just wanted to give my opinion why and shed some light on the fact that you've always got Apple loyalists, and basically how that is under real threat. And that threat will only grow for Apple in the future.

Where is the cheapest place to buy an SG2 in UK without contract ? Amazon ?

Kajolas said:
Where is the cheapest place to buy an SG2 in UK without contract ? Amazon ?
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Check expanys. They dropped their prices recently.

A good chance for HTC following S4 pricing

Hi guys
I think like quite a lot of buyers I was originally deciding between the HTC One and the Samsung Galaxy S4. They're both great phones in their own different ways, but after the delays and other setbacks for HTC, I was worried that the One might get sidelined like the One X last year.
Anyway, having just seen the Galaxy S4 prices (around 580 pounds), I think there's a small ray of hope for HTC. Although it's still expensive, the 32G One offers great value for money. Hopefully this will give consumers something to consider before they rush out and buy the S4.
Of course I don't doubt the S4 will still sell like hotcakes, but at least in these early weeks and months HTC will be able to offer (in my opinion) a better price/performance ratio versus the 16G Snapdragon S4 variant. I hope HTC can capitalise on this opportunity.
P.S. I don't intend this as flamebait, so moderators please feel free to lock or delete this thread if it gets out of hand. I just thought it's nice for HTC to have some good news for a change

There's no news here. :/

Dharkan said:
There's no news here. :/
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Sorry, I didn't mean to mislead, I just thought the competition's higher prices will help to give HTC and the One a little more breathing room.

I really hope HTC push a really good marketing campaign for this phone, it really does deserve it. I still see so many posts on fbook with people asking "S4 or iphone5 which should i buy" everytime i mention the HTC One and its as if no ones ever heard of HTC before...
- Adam

Misleading thread title: please change it.

Along with this it seems HTC are actually trying to push some marketing out....(There's a thread somewhere about it in here) In the UK there's TV adverts showing up pretty regularly. Which I'm pretty sure I've not seen from HTC before. Really hope things go well for them this year!

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Along with this it seems HTC are actually trying to push some marketing out....(There's a thread somewhere about it in here) In the UK there's TV adverts showing up pretty regularly. Which I'm pretty sure I've not seen from HTC before. Really hope things go well for them this year!
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If HTC spends a lot this time in marketing this beautiful phone they could really benefit. The old saying, "It takes money to make money" is so true for them.
You want to know why Samsung is the #1 best selling phone in the world? They spend the most marketing dollars than anyone in the business to be there.

Re: Some good news for HTC
No matter how much we fans of the HTC One want it to succeed and do better than the s4, it won't happen.
Samsung is a beast on marketing and it will kill the sales of the HTC one, especially here in the states due to the delay and basically coming out at the same time as the s4.
Just how it will be, its inevitable.
Also here in the states on T-Mobile, they both will be 99$ down payment and believe 580 total. So no difference in price.
Its unfortunate, but a reality.
With that said, more than likely I will be getting an HTC One, if I can keep holding out. Really like the Note 2 as well.
Sent from a galaxy far away!

For the US, AT&T just announced that the S4 will be $250 w/ 2 yr contract - if HTC can keep theirs down at $200 that may help HTC quite a bit.

Dazrin said:
For the US, AT&T just announced that the S4 will be $250 w/ 2 yr contract - if HTC can keep theirs down at $200 that may help HTC quite a bit.
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Sprint's pricing will more than likely be at $199, and T-Mobile has already confirmed it's availability of the 32GB model at $99. AT&T will follow suit from either of those. As far as pricing, HTC does have a good chance to make a difference here.

Dazrin said:
For the US, AT&T just announced that the S4 will be $250 w/ 2 yr contract - if HTC can keep theirs down at $200 that may help HTC quite a bit.
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Yep, after reading the GSM Arena comparison yesterday, I have been starting to lean a little towards buying the Samsung. If Sprint has the One $50 cheaper and I can get another $100 on an HTC buyback, that would almost certainly be enough to get me to stay with the One.

Funny thing about the GSMArena S4 review though - in the comparison they said that the S4 has a better audio output than the One, but whereas in the One's review they've published their standard audio frequency test, in the S4's review it was surprisingly no where to be found, nor even mentioned.
Biased?