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Nexus One first week sales = weak.((20k))

http://www.pcworld.com/article/1867...irst_week_of_sales_were_weak_report_says.html
Thats a ton of complaints coming out for only 20k sales.
Not being available in T-Mo stores really hurt sales. I think being able to see this screen and hold it in person would move a hell of alot more units.
he Nexus One didn't benefit from such a strong marketing push like the Motorola Droid (estimated $100 million), despite Google's phone featuring so-far unique Android features. This has reflected in poor first week sales for the Nexus One, as per the table below. (Click image above to enlarge)
Instead, Google chose a soft launch for the Nexus One, selling it through their website. But the steep $500 Google is asking for the unlocked device and the mixed reviews the Nexus One received didn't help to maximize first week sales.
Flurry's report mentions that the Nexus One lacks the "wow factor" and the general perception that the device is not seen as revolutionary, but rather just evolutionary from other Android phones.
Om Malik, of GigaOm, notes that Flurry's estimated sales numbers for the Nexus One might even be a bit far fetched. He mentions Google has been giving away the Nexus One to its employees and also lent it to many members of the media for reviews, which could have bumped up Flurry's analytics.
Next to the poor first week sales figure, the Nexus One has also seen mounting complaints over the 3G connectivity of the device and the lack of developer tools for the Android 2.1 platform.
In her review of the Nexus One, my colleague Ginny Mies notes that Google's phone "isn't quite the game-changer people hoped it would be, though it certainly trumps other phones in performance, display quality, and speed." Next to pros like a dazzling OLED display, snappy performance and sleep, slim design, she marks the lack of multitouch support and the software keyboard as cons.
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I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
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melterx12 said:
I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
EDIT: YOU! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE
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awww Fuuudgdeeee
Had to be 2 new yorkers didnt it. lol
Agree with this though. Ive been saying I hope a ton of people want it but few get it. That way Google is pressed to resolve there customer service and HW issues and early adopters dont look like bandwagon jumpers for the latest fashion device.
On the flip side... I hope Google doesnt turn around and blame Tmobile. Tmo and Google have been continually bringing out Android sets I hope that relationship doesnt sour because of this.

Actually 20k in sales for a phone that has reportedly had the vast majority of users buy the unlocked version is pretty damn good (Leo Laporte mentioned it on TWiT on Sunday)
melterx12 said:
I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
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As much as I give credit to Apple for what they've done with the iPhone, the iPhone has become the "razr" of phones.....the "Wal-Mart" of phones....

The bad press on this phone is silly. It takes nothing into consideration, bends around the truth, and just sounds misinformed. This phone had a soft launch, wasn't available in stores, no television ads, and wasn't really advertised by Google until the day of it's launch.
These soft launches make an impact. Word will spread and then it will pop up and explode on Verizon. I'm not even trying to defend the device, it just makes me angry seeing so much misinformed crap popping up on the web.
"But the steep $500 Google is asking for the unlocked device and the mixed reviews the Nexus One received didn't help to maximize first week sales."
Mixed reviews meaning angry fanboys? I don't get it. The thing runs Android really well, is fast as hell, looks great, has a good camera, etc. I have no idea what people were expecting. Android has been out, and this was stated to be an Android device.

mark925 said:
As much as I give credit to Apple for what they've done with the iPhone, the iPhone has become the "razr" of phones.....the "Wal-Mart" of phones....
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+1
everybody and their dog has an iphone. i'd rather have something few others do

To be honest, and trying to be unbiased, I think these numbers are ok for Google. Here's why I say that... given the marketing channel used here (online only sales and advertising), I suspect that Google is banking on a moderate rate of sales early on, with an increase a little later. Most people like to see and touch something prior to dropping hundreds of dollars on it. I think Google is counting on the early adopters to buy the phones, and then once we have them and others start seeing and playing with them, they will start buying. In theory, this should work the same as if the N1 would have been sold in stores, except the initial sales would be lighter and the rate of sales would be steeper after the first few weeks.

My proverbial 2 cents...
#1. It's hard for someone to drop that much cash on a phone unseen. Like others have pointed out, it's hard to sell a mobile phone without being able to "touch" it and play with it at a retail store.
#2. The N1 is one of the first handsets relatively available for purchase which has the Qualcomm Snapdragon processor. I honestly think the "hacking" community for the N1 will be similar of what the G1 (HTC Dream) has seen... In other words, the HTC Passion is basically the next great hacking platform as the HTC Dream experienced.
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So essentially 1 in 150,000 Americans (ROUGHLY, only considering domestic sales) are packin the N1 - Sounds like a pretty elite/exclusive group if you ask me

booloobunny said:
..."But the steep $500 Google is asking for the unlocked device and the mixed reviews the Nexus One received didn't help to maximize first week sales."
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Also, to add onto this...I don't think the price is steep at all. In fact it is cheaper than many other unlocked devices with lesser hardware. Also, it has been pointed out in many places that getting the unlocked version is cheaper than going with the subsidized version and mandatory plan.

When a phone can be purchased only from one location and one URL only gadget freaks like us know about it's existence. Some of my friends who think they are gadget freaks were shocked to see my phone over the weekend. They didn't even know about it yet. Forget the common man. Unless, the phone is sold in T-mobile, and B&M stores, it will be hard to sell like Driod.
Except for lousy T-mobile 3G inside buildings, I love this phone. But I am seriously thinking about returning just to go back to AT&T as I would like to stay with the best GSM carrier who gets most unlocked 3G phones so I can keep changing my phones every few months.

uansari1 said:
To be honest, and trying to be unbiased, I think these numbers are ok for Google. Here's why I say that... given the marketing channel used here (online only sales and advertising), I suspect that Google is banking on a moderate rate of sales early on, with an increase a little later. Most people like to see and touch something prior to dropping hundreds of dollars on it. I think Google is counting on the early adopters to buy the phones, and then once we have them and others start seeing and playing with them, they will start buying. In theory, this should work the same as if the N1 would have been sold in stores, except the initial sales would be lighter and the rate of sales would be steeper after the first few weeks.
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I agree. This seems similar to Gmail when it was in Beta....and Gvoice. Only certain people had it and it was invite only. This seems to make a launch more manageable (less volume) and the inital adopters are the ones who typically want it the most and spread the word to others for free.

I want one... I just don't want to pay $530 to be a beta tester. I think once the 3g issues are solved we'll see alot more people pay for the phone

once Verizon and vodaphone get this phone. Sales will SKY rocket.

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The only way for a big change in sales would be to sell the Nexus One in stores, mainstream buyers are not going to spend premium money on a handset that they can not handle first.
There are not enough early adopters and tech heads like most of us on this site to make a major impact on sales. Plus many of us are holding off to see how the 3G issue gets handled before buying.

since they didnt really air commercial for the phone and it is only available online. the numbers are pretty good.

melterx12 said:
The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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Yeah... Putting the parts together... probably costs more than the parts themselves, including labor.
Sure, I could get the "parts" for my car too for less than a quarter of what it sells for... I wouldn't want to try to assemble it though!
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Kermee

melterx12 said:
The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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...not to mention R&D

I still have people ask me when its coming out when I show them mine, this phone is still very "underground"

melterx12 said:
The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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Can you send me a link to where you found out the hardware only cost $175 for the nexus one. I would like to see how much the snapdragon proc costs, and the 512mb of ram, and all the other components in the phone, and just the cost of putting it together.
And I am not referring to licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
Just the hardware and the costs to put the phone together. I call bull**** on the $175 dollars.
That is how much it might cost to put together the iphone 3gs with much cheaper hardware. But the Nexus One hardware is another story.

[Q] Is SGS a good phone?

I have a question. SGS is a great device, with a super S-AMOLED display, so on and so forth. But the real question is: can it fulfill basic operations like calling? It has any signal dropping or things like that? Because somebody told me that Samsung aren't known for phones, and if I spend 450 euros for a phone, I want to be sure that I can really dial numbers with it. Don't take this post as a joke, because applefanboys also took iPhone 4's problem as a joke, and you must buy a certain bumper case for it to dial and call.

TudorEm said:
I have a question. SGS is a great device, with a super S-AMOLED display, so on and so forth. But the real question is: can it fulfill basic operations like calling? It has any signal dropping or things like that? Because somebody told me that Samsung aren't known for phones, and if I spend 450 euros for a phone, I want to be sure that I can really dial numbers with it. Don't take this post as a joke, because applefanboys also took iPhone 4's problem as a joke, and you must buy a certain bumper case for it to dial and call.
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no problem with phone calls at all
the only known issues with gps fault and lag, which are both fixed with the latest firmware

Brilliant! Cheers for replying! So does SGS worth?

TudorEm said:
Brilliant! Cheers for replying! So does SGS worth?
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SGS is worth it, plus add in untapped potential with Froyo and better games in the future, we are only scrapping the surface.
As for Samsung not being known for phones, this is entirely untrue. They are the 2nd biggest cell phone manufacturer in the world and the largest seller of phones in the US.
Samsung's issue is that they aren't known for their smartphones, with less than 5% of the global market, and they are known for dropping or never starting the support on the phones. However, they have already acknowledged GPS (from what I've read) and that they are looking into it, some people have little issues with the GPS. Also, they have already released official firmware updates in at least 3 countries. I think the difference in support is mostly due to carriers, as their biggest market (besides the US but they just recently launched) and most trusted parter SK they have issued 4 firmware updates.
I owned the original iPhone so this is my first Samsung smartphone, but I've got it and am not looking back.

TudorEm said:
Brilliant! Cheers for replying! So does SGS worth?
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In my opinion, it really is worth of every cent.

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In my opinion, it really is worth of every cent.
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Heh, you're not the only one, and I don't say that from my opinion, I say that from the reading of how much these phones were going for on Ebay and other p2p sales. Meaning, they were often worth more than their asking price. And, all the people who bought them in these countries...well only there were so many people who opened the box without even thinking of selling...To them, it means that it was worth more than the street (Ebay) selling prices (assuming they knew or considered the possibility, of course not all did)!

Atrix is a dud

Looks like Motorola's decision to lock the bootloader is coming back to bite them in the ass. That's what they get for turning their backs on the developement community. It was the developement community that made the original Droid such a success but Motorola is too stupid to realise it.
http://blogs.forbes.com/ericsavitz/...lity-xoom-atrix-both-duds-pacific-crest-says/

I highly doubt the locked bootloader has much to do with it.. Only a small percentage of consumers know what a bootloader is.. All manufacturers are going to be locking down their phones.. HTC did with the Thunderbolt and it's doing very well.. I think it has more to do with price anyway.. That article mentions the XOOM too and its unlockable, but way out when it comes to price point..
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Don't underestimate the importance of the developement community. The Atrix is priced competetively at $199 with deals as low as$ 125. The Thunderbolt bootloader was cracked a long time ago wasn't it?
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go ask samsung how well the nexus s was selling lol

Exador said:
Don't underestimate the importance of the developement community. The Atrix is priced competetively at $199 with deals as low as$ 125. The Thunderbolt bootloader was cracked a long time ago wasn't it?
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not locked to the same level. HTC is just starting to lock down it's devices.

This has pretty much nothing to do with the bootloader and everything to do with usage and price.
The specs on the Atrix are awesome, but they are also far beyond what a normal consumer needs at this point so they aren't really taken into consideration.
The Inspire is a great phone that performs really well. When you hold and use both phones in the store, and you aren't a tech geek, it becomes hard to justify spending an extra $100 on the Atrix.
This isn't even taking into account a cheap iPhone 3G at $50, or any of the other smartphones that run well and cost quite a bit less.

I'd be interested to know if the analyst quoted in the article actually used the word "dud", or if the reporter used it as his interpretation of what the analyst said. And saying that a product's sales are “well below forecast” isn't particularly meaningful without knowing what the forecast was, just like a company claiming that sales "far exceeded expectations."
Nevertheless, I agree that Atrix sales are undoubtedly being hurt by the lower subsidized price of the HTC Inspire. Heck, the Atrix is priced the same as the 16GB iPhone 4. That's tough competition. I wouldn't be surprised if the Atrix price goes down to $99 in the not too distant future.
I think Moto's biggest marketing mistake with the Atrix was touting it with the laptop dock, rather than as a standalone kick-ass phone.

GoodFoot said:
I'd be interested to know if the analyst quoted in the article actually used the word "dud", or if the reporter used it as his interpretation of what the analyst said. And saying that a product's sales are “well below forecast” isn't particularly meaningful without knowing what the forecast was, just like a company claiming that sales "far exceeded expectations."
Nevertheless, I agree that Atrix sales are undoubtedly being hurt by the lower subsidized price of the HTC Inspire. Heck, the Atrix is priced the same as the 16GB iPhone 4. That's tough competition. I wouldn't be surprised if the Atrix price goes down to $99 in the not too distant future.
I think Moto's biggest marketing mistake with the Atrix was touting it with the laptop dock, rather than as a standalone kick-ass phone.
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Exactly people don't know about its ability as a phone alone.
I also agree with the OP. The dev community made the droid strong. This is what motorola deserves for locking the bootloader.

I think the best thing i've seen said about it in a review (which i think was just a Youtube review or something) was that it's basically the only future-proof phone on the market right now.... namely because of the dual core CPU.
Dud? I doubt it. Yea.... it doesn't sell as well as some phones.... but then again.... not everybody buys their phone because there's a piece of fruit on the back and a media player OS on the inside.
And no.... the idea of the locked bootloader would not be a deal-breaker. As it's been said... the majority of people don't even know what the bootloader is. Yea.... it may seem like a big deal if you're browsing around in tech community forums... but not so much in the real world or other forums. Take for instance a quick google search for "jailbreak/root poll"... just as an example as to how much the ability to crack your phone matters to people
Neowin.net:
Do you root/jailbreak your device?
Yes = 67 votes
No = 17 votes
Know how to, but don't want to = 9 votes
What is rooting/jailbreaking? = 1 vote
Going by that... you may say that rooting/jailbreaking is a HUGE factor on phone sales.
HomeTheaterLounge.com:
Is your Smartphone rooted/jailbroken?:
Yes = 7
No = 15
Bored and wanted to vote in a poll = 2
Not quite as drastic a result.... but also not nearly as many votes. I mean.... when you have people asking why the iPhone 4 doesn't use the 4G network because from what they understand it's the iPhone 4G.... do you REALLY think that the majority of the country/world is seeing a hackable bootloader as being a major selling point, when the majority could care less about even a simple root/jailbreak?

Exador said:
The Atrix is priced competetively at $199 with deals as low as$ 125.
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Or $24 at CarToys - argh!

Another consideration might be the advertising which presents "it's a phone, or a computer, or a phone" - which probably gets even some non-techies excited. Only to find that for that phone your talking $500 and another $240 per year to tether a dumb device to it ... very unfortunate.
Price the Lapdog (!) right (say $1-150), and do not charge tethering for something which is in no way increasing bandwidth use or enabling a second person to do anything on the data connection - and you might have a lot more takers, techie and otherwise.

GoodFoot said:
Nevertheless, I agree that Atrix sales are undoubtedly being hurt by the lower subsidized price of the HTC Inspire. Heck, the Atrix is priced the same as the 16GB iPhone 4. That's tough competition. I wouldn't be surprised if the Atrix price goes down to $99 in the not too distant future.
I think Moto's biggest marketing mistake with the Atrix was touting it with the laptop dock, rather than as a standalone kick-ass phone.
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Well Its already $99 at amazon wireless.

Yeah, I'd really like the reason for low sales to be the bootloader... but I honestly doubt that very much. The phone is really a great value at $200, by itself, but few people understand how much better it performs than the iPhone 4 because it is not marketed as a stand-alone device. The laptop dock is far too expensive for the average end user, and tethering charges are high as well as unwarranted.
Also, I think its presence on AT&T hurts Motorola a great deal. Most AT&T customers naturally equate "smartphone" with "iPhone", and see Android devices as mere iPhone wannabes. I would expect more of the Bionic on Verizon, though the lack of early hype for the Atrix won't help any. And naturally, if I were on Verizon, I'd be pretty pissed to be offered only half the RAM.

Lol 10 to one odds The author Eric savitz is on xda
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It seems like a decent Android phone (IMHO). I'm waiting for Gingerbread to get to the device. I might be waiting a while, but it would be a better user experience with that version of the software.
Is it a Dud? Don't think so having owned 3 Android phones (first with MotoBlur though).

best dud ive ever had

Yep.... even better dud than my previous phone..... you know.... one of those phones with some fruit on the back...... and commonly mistaken for a 4G-capable phone....

Yeah. I spent an hour the other night trying to convince the guy with the fruit phone that it did not/could not use the ATT 4G network. I finally gave up.

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Yeah. I spent an hour the other night trying to convince the guy with the fruit phone that it did not/could not use the ATT 4G network. I finally gave up.
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Coulda settled that with one word. Specifications. TADA! lol

Just a quick question what is all this talk about tethering charges?? Is this an American thing??? I have an AT&T atrix unlocked to Rogers using a laptop dock I bought from the source (in Canada) I am able to use the LTD without getting g charged for tethering... in fact I don't even understand why that would be considered tethering there is not supposed to be any internal components in the LTD except the extra battery so what are you tethering ??? The display??? Makes no sense...

AT&T-branded phone not looking good for U.S. Release

The more I read (which is entirely too much lately), the more it seems that the SG2 is going to take a long time to have an "official" release in the US. I try to put myself in the position of there possibly being two different consumers (one for the Infuse and one for the SG2). Unfortunately, I don't think there is a "need" for both devices. It really seems counterproductive for AT&T to release the SG2 so soon after the release of the Infuse.
Call me paranoid but, I would REALLY like to have a phone that isn't a gray item (for warranty). I have faith in the hardware but you never know with electronics.
Anyone have an opinion on it? I have an iP4 which is perfectly fine. I just REALLY want to get an Android device and would prefer to stay on AT&T (service locally is good, and I am on an unlimited data plan).

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The more I read (which is entirely too much lately), the more it seems that the SG2 is going to take a long time to have an "official" release in the US. I try to put myself in the position of there possibly being two different consumers (one for the Infuse and one for the SG2). Unfortunately, I don't think there is a "need" for both devices. It really seems counterproductive for AT&T to release the SG2 so soon after the release of the Infuse.
Call me paranoid but, I would REALLY like to have a phone that isn't a gray item (for warranty). I have faith in the hardware but you never know with electronics.
Anyone have an opinion on it? I have an iP4 which is perfectly fine. I just REALLY want to get an Android device and would prefer to stay on AT&T (service locally is good, and I am on an unlimited data plan).
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If your iphone is in good shape and unlocked, sell on ebay for loads of cash. Purchase a sgs2 for 700-750. Still will be able to use your unlimited plan.
But I really dont see SGS2 on ATT anytime soon.

I thought there was some big non-carrier specific announcement by Samsung in New York on May 24th or something? Honestly, the Infuse is just an oversized SGS with an overclocked CPU.
If you've seen the video demonstrations of just how powerful the SGSII is, you'll start to realize these two devices are actually worlds apart. I'm using an unbranded SGSII, but if you're holding out for AT&T's version, don't give up yet!

You cold buy a SG2 overseas but it won't work on the same 3g band as AT&T. If you are planning to stay on at&t why don't you.buy the Motorola attic. I own one and its incredibly fast.
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I thought there was some big non-carrier specific announcement by Samsung in New York on May 24th or something? Honestly, the Infuse is just an oversized SGS with an overclocked CPU.
If you've seen the video demonstrations of just how powerful the SGSII is, you'll start to realize these two devices are actually worlds apart. I'm using an unbranded SGSII, but if you're holding out for AT&T's version, don't give up yet!
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I'm leaning on taking the dive early. And wicked car in your sig.

josuetenista said:
You cold buy a SG2 overseas but it won't work on the same 3g band as AT&T. If you are planning to stay on at&t why don't you.buy the Motorola attic. I own one and its incredibly fast.
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You'd be wrong, twice. It does indeed work on AT&Ts 3G/"4G" bands [unlocked]. Its also called the Motorola Atrix 4G, not the attic. While quick, MotoBLUR is garbage.

cmd512 said:
I thought there was some big non-carrier specific announcement by Samsung in New York on May 24th or something? Honestly, the Infuse is just an oversized SGS with an overclocked CPU.
If you've seen the video demonstrations of just how powerful the SGSII is, you'll start to realize these two devices are actually worlds apart. I'm using an unbranded SGSII, but if you're holding out for AT&T's version, don't give up yet!
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There's an announcement planned, yes. However, it could easily be for the AT&T branded Nexus S or one of the new tablets.
To those of us who care about hardware the phones (Infuse and SG2) are definitely worlds apart. However to Joe Consumer who doesn't know or care about hardware specs, I don't think it will matter.
The wife keeps giving me the evil-eye when I mention ordering one from the UK. I think I'm wearing her down though

josuetenista said:
You cold buy a SG2 overseas but it won't work on the same 3g band as AT&T. If you are planning to stay on at&t why don't you.buy the Motorola attic. I own one and its incredibly fast.
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I've messed with an Atrix. Seemed OK. Not spectacular though. I have a friend who actually returned his for the HTC Inspire (and loves it). That doesn't speak well to me. Plus EVERYTHING I've seen about the SG2 proves it's definitely the cat's meow (currently).

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I'm leaning on taking the dive early. And wicked car in your sig.
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Appreciate it, friend.
mattism78 said:
There's an announcement planned, yes. However, it could easily be for the AT&T branded Nexus S or one of the new tablets.
To those of us who care about hardware the phones (Infuse and SG2) are definitely worlds apart. However to Joe Consumer who doesn't know or care about hardware specs, I don't think it will matter.
The wife keeps giving me the evil-eye when I mention ordering one from the UK. I think I'm wearing her down though
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It's not just about the specs, those specs translate into REAL world performance differences. The SGSII has not even had the slightest hiccup with web browsing... regardless of how many windows are open, how many graphics are in each window, etc. My SGS, while great when it came out, easily got bogged down, and multi-window browsing was never a truly usable feature. Given the Infuse is has almost identical specs to an SGS, I predict it will have similar issues.
People keep thinking these specs being listed off are only for geeks, but once in a while, they do relate to real world usability and performance differences. And when they do, they are QUITE significant.

The title of your thread almost gave me a heart attack thinking there was some type of major technical issue uncovered. My SGS2 arrives tomorrow. More appropriate title would be "AT&T-branded phone not looking good in the U.S."
I guarantee you several hundred thousand of the 3MM presales are destined for AT&T. If you poke around the technical sites, the general consensus is a 4G version for VZW followed by AT&T this year. Nobody's even mentioning Sprint or T-Mobile. Depending on the timing, the SGS2 could be AT&T's first LTE phone. I haven't seen any updates on their LTE status but I'm guessing they're pushing to get something up quickly to show the world they'll be as good as VZW in the long run.

BarryH_GEG said:
The title of your thread almost gave me a heart attack thinking there was some type of major technical issue uncovered. My SGS2 arrives tomorrow. More appropriate title would be "AT&T-branded phone not looking good in the U.S."
I guarantee you several hundred thousand of the 3MM presales are destined for AT&T. If you poke around the technical sites, the general consensus is a 4G version for VZW followed by AT&T this year. Nobody's even mentioning Sprint or T-Mobile. Depending on the timing, the SGS2 could be AT&T's first LTE phone. I haven't seen any updates on their LTE status but I'm guessing they're pushing to get something up quickly to show the world they'll be as good as VZW in the long run.
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Sorry about the startle. I changed the title of the thread.
I am just frustrated (as are many I'm sure). I'd like to offload my iP4 before the value drops too much (iP5 release). Unfortunately, I'm unable to go without a phone and I am really nervous about a gray market item. Hell even an unbranded Samsung direct phone would work for me. I'm going to have to pay full price anyhow.

Yeah, I think ATT will get the SGS2 with LTE.

Use the fuzzy math I used to convince myself the phone was only $475. $800 - $325 (sold G2) = $475 Can you really put a price on whipping your phone out and gathering a crowd around to see it for a couple of months? My take on buying an import is you spin the wheel and take your chances. If you buy it in the UK, Samsung U.S. will service it. If you buy from Expansys they'll ship it back to the UK for you for service. How long you're without a phone is probably the biggest concern. If you use a credit card with buyers and/or warranty protection you'd have a back-up that will at least get you your money back. Go ahead, you know you want to do it

The event is NOT for the Nexus S for AT&T. Otherwise it would be an event WITH AT&T, not an independent Samsung event.

Hang in there OP. I am in the same boat. I refuse to replace my iPhone 4 with a $750 phone that will be $500 through my carrier. That's $250 in my pocket. Another $250 and I can buy one for my wife
I bet the event is for sgs2 variants. Nexus s doesn't warrant a bug event just like here in Canada it came quietly on all carriers. No big announcements. Many peope don't even know it lol.
The phone is been out a month and is at&t compatible. The event is def. about something more exciting

I'm in the same boat here, too. However after my experience with the Captivate, and the shoddy quality control of its hardware, and the still-present GPS woes and color-banding issues on the SGS II, it seems Samsung rushed yet another product to market and perhaps these extra couple months we'll have to wait will be well worth it in the end.

nomisunrider said:
The event is NOT for the Nexus S for AT&T. Otherwise it would be an event WITH AT&T, not an independent Samsung event.
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Could be the Tab 8.9 though.

I was wondering what could be that of the SGS II that recently went through the FCC with AT&T only bands?
I hoping the announcement on the 25th will be that Samsung will sell the GS II unlocked in the states and working on AT&T's network just like Google does sell their Nexus phones.

phonex1 said:
Hang in there OP. I am in the same boat. I refuse to replace my iPhone 4 with a $750 phone that will be $500 through my carrier. That's $250 in my pocket. Another $250 and I can buy one for my wife
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Do you really think it will be $500 subsidized??? There goes my dream of getting it through AT&T!!! The company only pays up to $100 for a new phone so $400 more is hefty *sob*

funnycreature said:
Do you really think it will be $500 subsidized??? There goes my dream of getting it through AT&T!!! The company only pays up to $100 for a new phone so $400 more is hefty *sob*
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Go to "USA May 24th announcement" thread to discuss this, I think I mentioned pricing there, or I may be wrong.
I think there is no way the phone will be more than $250 with a 2 year contract on AT&T. My opinion (based on 12 years of buying AT&T phones on 4 lines) it will be around $250, before or after $50 mail-in rebate, depending on when it is getting released. Maybe just straight forward $200 with no rebates if it is released in the fall.

Galaxy Note doing well in the US?

The Galaxy Note was launched on AT&T yesterday and I am curious how well it is being received in the US.
Samsung is obviously promoting it heavily but I didn't like their Superbowl ad which I think subsituted noise for cleverness. My sense is it was received quite poorly so it seems like a real missed opportunity. A clever, funny Superbowl ad could really have ignited sales especially since few gadgets of note are being released around now. I actually think Samsung's regular Note ads which are being used around the world are better so I hope they start using those or similar ads in the US also.
I am also getting the sense that the Note is getting mixed reviews in the US, a few negative ones no doubt coming from the numerous Apple fanboys in the tech media.
The overall impression I am getting from afar is that the Note may not be having the best of starts in the US. I hope I am wrong about this . Any US posters want to comment on how the Note is doing, both in terms of their personal experience and what they have heard ?

There's a lot of Apple fanboys in the US, broh.

I had an iPhone and I truly don't see the infatuation with it. Yes its a solid phone but not the be all end all people make it. I like tech in general and for me android is way better and I would pay double for a note over an iPhone 4s. Apple fan boys truly have a medical condition
From the Beast : Galaxy Note

Everywhere I go w/ my Note I get stopped asking how to get one, and some of them complain their iPhones don't have Super AMOLED.
I read up on AT&T's Note debut, wow, the cost + early termination is overpriced than the unlocked version's current sale price. That's absurd.

Just stopped by att to play with one until my unlocked one gets here. ****ing sweet phone can't wait to join the elite crew ;-) I bet the note is getting good vibes here....
Sent from my A500 ICS dream machine

Well, don't read Gizmodo's quick review of the Note So so sad.

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Everywhere I go w/ my Note I get stopped asking how to get one, and some of them complain their iPhones don't have Super AMOLED.
I read up on AT&T's Note debut, wow, the cost + early termination is overpriced than the unlocked version's current sale price. That's absurd.
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I get the same effect. Everyone in the elevators, while i'm taking pictures, they would all ask what phone I have.
They were promoting at a mall in Toronto, Canada and some of the customers thought i was a sales rep because i was using it to take pictures at the event :S !