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http://www.pcworld.com/article/1867...irst_week_of_sales_were_weak_report_says.html
Thats a ton of complaints coming out for only 20k sales.
Not being available in T-Mo stores really hurt sales. I think being able to see this screen and hold it in person would move a hell of alot more units.
he Nexus One didn't benefit from such a strong marketing push like the Motorola Droid (estimated $100 million), despite Google's phone featuring so-far unique Android features. This has reflected in poor first week sales for the Nexus One, as per the table below. (Click image above to enlarge)
Instead, Google chose a soft launch for the Nexus One, selling it through their website. But the steep $500 Google is asking for the unlocked device and the mixed reviews the Nexus One received didn't help to maximize first week sales.
Flurry's report mentions that the Nexus One lacks the "wow factor" and the general perception that the device is not seen as revolutionary, but rather just evolutionary from other Android phones.
Om Malik, of GigaOm, notes that Flurry's estimated sales numbers for the Nexus One might even be a bit far fetched. He mentions Google has been giving away the Nexus One to its employees and also lent it to many members of the media for reviews, which could have bumped up Flurry's analytics.
Next to the poor first week sales figure, the Nexus One has also seen mounting complaints over the 3G connectivity of the device and the lack of developer tools for the Android 2.1 platform.
In her review of the Nexus One, my colleague Ginny Mies notes that Google's phone "isn't quite the game-changer people hoped it would be, though it certainly trumps other phones in performance, display quality, and speed." Next to pros like a dazzling OLED display, snappy performance and sleep, slim design, she marks the lack of multitouch support and the software keyboard as cons.
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I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
EDIT: YOU! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE
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I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
EDIT: YOU! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE
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awww Fuuudgdeeee
Had to be 2 new yorkers didnt it. lol
Agree with this though. Ive been saying I hope a ton of people want it but few get it. That way Google is pressed to resolve there customer service and HW issues and early adopters dont look like bandwagon jumpers for the latest fashion device.
On the flip side... I hope Google doesnt turn around and blame Tmobile. Tmo and Google have been continually bringing out Android sets I hope that relationship doesnt sour because of this.
Actually 20k in sales for a phone that has reportedly had the vast majority of users buy the unlocked version is pretty damn good (Leo Laporte mentioned it on TWiT on Sunday)
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I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
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As much as I give credit to Apple for what they've done with the iPhone, the iPhone has become the "razr" of phones.....the "Wal-Mart" of phones....
The bad press on this phone is silly. It takes nothing into consideration, bends around the truth, and just sounds misinformed. This phone had a soft launch, wasn't available in stores, no television ads, and wasn't really advertised by Google until the day of it's launch.
These soft launches make an impact. Word will spread and then it will pop up and explode on Verizon. I'm not even trying to defend the device, it just makes me angry seeing so much misinformed crap popping up on the web.
"But the steep $500 Google is asking for the unlocked device and the mixed reviews the Nexus One received didn't help to maximize first week sales."
Mixed reviews meaning angry fanboys? I don't get it. The thing runs Android really well, is fast as hell, looks great, has a good camera, etc. I have no idea what people were expecting. Android has been out, and this was stated to be an Android device.
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As much as I give credit to Apple for what they've done with the iPhone, the iPhone has become the "razr" of phones.....the "Wal-Mart" of phones....
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everybody and their dog has an iphone. i'd rather have something few others do
To be honest, and trying to be unbiased, I think these numbers are ok for Google. Here's why I say that... given the marketing channel used here (online only sales and advertising), I suspect that Google is banking on a moderate rate of sales early on, with an increase a little later. Most people like to see and touch something prior to dropping hundreds of dollars on it. I think Google is counting on the early adopters to buy the phones, and then once we have them and others start seeing and playing with them, they will start buying. In theory, this should work the same as if the N1 would have been sold in stores, except the initial sales would be lighter and the rate of sales would be steeper after the first few weeks.
My proverbial 2 cents...
#1. It's hard for someone to drop that much cash on a phone unseen. Like others have pointed out, it's hard to sell a mobile phone without being able to "touch" it and play with it at a retail store.
#2. The N1 is one of the first handsets relatively available for purchase which has the Qualcomm Snapdragon processor. I honestly think the "hacking" community for the N1 will be similar of what the G1 (HTC Dream) has seen... In other words, the HTC Passion is basically the next great hacking platform as the HTC Dream experienced.
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So essentially 1 in 150,000 Americans (ROUGHLY, only considering domestic sales) are packin the N1 - Sounds like a pretty elite/exclusive group if you ask me
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Also, to add onto this...I don't think the price is steep at all. In fact it is cheaper than many other unlocked devices with lesser hardware. Also, it has been pointed out in many places that getting the unlocked version is cheaper than going with the subsidized version and mandatory plan.
When a phone can be purchased only from one location and one URL only gadget freaks like us know about it's existence. Some of my friends who think they are gadget freaks were shocked to see my phone over the weekend. They didn't even know about it yet. Forget the common man. Unless, the phone is sold in T-mobile, and B&M stores, it will be hard to sell like Driod.
Except for lousy T-mobile 3G inside buildings, I love this phone. But I am seriously thinking about returning just to go back to AT&T as I would like to stay with the best GSM carrier who gets most unlocked 3G phones so I can keep changing my phones every few months.
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To be honest, and trying to be unbiased, I think these numbers are ok for Google. Here's why I say that... given the marketing channel used here (online only sales and advertising), I suspect that Google is banking on a moderate rate of sales early on, with an increase a little later. Most people like to see and touch something prior to dropping hundreds of dollars on it. I think Google is counting on the early adopters to buy the phones, and then once we have them and others start seeing and playing with them, they will start buying. In theory, this should work the same as if the N1 would have been sold in stores, except the initial sales would be lighter and the rate of sales would be steeper after the first few weeks.
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I agree. This seems similar to Gmail when it was in Beta....and Gvoice. Only certain people had it and it was invite only. This seems to make a launch more manageable (less volume) and the inital adopters are the ones who typically want it the most and spread the word to others for free.
I want one... I just don't want to pay $530 to be a beta tester. I think once the 3g issues are solved we'll see alot more people pay for the phone
once Verizon and vodaphone get this phone. Sales will SKY rocket.
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The only way for a big change in sales would be to sell the Nexus One in stores, mainstream buyers are not going to spend premium money on a handset that they can not handle first.
There are not enough early adopters and tech heads like most of us on this site to make a major impact on sales. Plus many of us are holding off to see how the 3G issue gets handled before buying.
since they didnt really air commercial for the phone and it is only available online. the numbers are pretty good.
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The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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Yeah... Putting the parts together... probably costs more than the parts themselves, including labor.
Sure, I could get the "parts" for my car too for less than a quarter of what it sells for... I wouldn't want to try to assemble it though!
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Kermee
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The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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...not to mention R&D
I still have people ask me when its coming out when I show them mine, this phone is still very "underground"
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The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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Can you send me a link to where you found out the hardware only cost $175 for the nexus one. I would like to see how much the snapdragon proc costs, and the 512mb of ram, and all the other components in the phone, and just the cost of putting it together.
And I am not referring to licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
Just the hardware and the costs to put the phone together. I call bull**** on the $175 dollars.
That is how much it might cost to put together the iphone 3gs with much cheaper hardware. But the Nexus One hardware is another story.
It is false rumors that this phone is not selling well/won't sell well.
1) It has just been released a few weeks ago . Just last week for Canada and not even released in other areas.
2) The Verizon equivalent (Bionic) has not been released yet which should really help in the Dev community for Atrix.
3) Atrix is a big commitment to Motorola & AT&T that they are advertising this thing like CRAZY
4) Sprint is getting the Atrix which will also boost sales and help the dev community.
5) Great reviews from all sites.
6) Other dual-core phones are still a ways off from being released. Plus inital benchmarks of these not looking good.
Plus as time goes by and people see the cool Tegra games, accessories through moto, how fast this phone is and its features. This will be a great seller PERIOD.
no. My dad works in the telecom biz, and knows alot of high up people at moto. This thing isn't selling well at all.
What's the point of a dual core if you have to view its power through a pentile screen that can't even recognize multitouch correctly?
Do you even have the phone? Have you looked at the screen? How many users does the screen "bug" affect?
The phone itself was rated 9/10 on engadget, catching many by surprise who've accused engadget for reserving that score solely for Apple products. Too bad the docks are premature at this stage, not to say overpriced!
It has not even been released outside US! I think far too early to tell whether it is not selling well...
But honestly, I think it would sell a lot BETTER if those crazy accessories came with a realistic price.
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no. My dad works in the telecom biz, and knows alot of high up people at moto. This thing isn't selling well at all.
What's the point of a dual core if you have to view its power through a pentile screen that can't even recognize multitouch correctly?
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Oh well that proves everything! Your dad works at a telecom business! WOW! Maybe Moto should hang it up then. Might as well not even release it on Sprint or Verizon. Hell your dad is master phone guy.
BTW every major phone out with an OLED is pentile and our pentile screen has 40% more pixels
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no. My dad works in the telecom biz, and knows alot of high up people at moto. This thing isn't selling well at all.
What's the point of a dual core if you have to view its power through a pentile screen that can't even recognize multitouch correctly?
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Sorry if I doubt this, you have been trolling these forums looking for any possible way to diss this phone.
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Sorry if I doubt this, you have been trolling these forums looking for any possible way to diss this phone.
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not really... I bought it
I'm not trying to troll, I'm just kinda pissed off that the screen looks washed out, especially compared to the dell venue (which is an amoled). I just hope moto patches the phone soon, and I'm sure a lot of you can agree with me on that.
It wasn't cheap.
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not really... I bought it
I'm not trying to troll, I'm just kinda pissed off that the screen looks washed out, especially compared to the dell venue (which is an amoled). I just hope moto patches the phone soon, and I'm sure a lot of you can agree with me on that.
It wasn't cheap.
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I paid 49.99 for mine by trading in a refurbished captivate that I got from AT&T for a penny by calling 611 and ordering it from them.
Then again I always find the cheapest route.
As for selling well, the majority of wireless phone users are dim witted technically challenged people who wouldn't know a good phone from a razr. Even if it were not selling well, it will sell enough for Moto to continue production for a while to come. As for your dad, no intending any offense by this, but unless he is a sales analyst and is watching the numbers personally and knows from first hand experience that it is not selling well, his information is second hand at best and completely useless when determining numbers.
I say give it six months and revisit the issue.
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no. My dad works in the telecom biz, and knows alot of high up people at moto. This thing isn't selling well at all.
What's the point of a dual core if you have to view its power through a pentile screen that can't even recognize multitouch correctly?
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Yea I call bs on your dad knowing anyone at motorola, its like saying my uncle who knows a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy father knows someone credibility kinda goes out the window.
Oh and ATT sold out on pre orders the day it was put on their website
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-backordered-high-volume-of-sales
This is reassuring to hear. Considering that in one of my posts, I regurgitated this false rumor, this is very good.
My apologies if I mislead anyone in that post.
on Ebay
I've never sold a phone on ebay before so I have a few questions.
1. I got this phone on a subsidized price and it seems like I can sell it for more. I have a different line on the family plan that is eligible for an upgrade. If I were to transfer that upgrade to myself and get a new phone, Verizon shouldn't penalize me for deactivating and selling the phone, right?
2. When the phone sells, I suppose everything goes, including the SIM card?
3. What is a good popular replacement android that has the same or greater processing power and battery life comparable to using an extended battery on this phone. (Correct me if I am wrong but it seems that data is 30 bucks for either 3g or 4g phones, right?)
Sorry. but just one question.
Why ?
Why would you sell this phone, now that Gingerbread has just come out and its the only real option over a BlackBerry.
Anyways, I imported my Droid Pro and bought if off a private seller like you on Ebay. You will have the best chances to sell it if ...
1) Get the Unlock code of Verizon: Tell them you are travelling overseas for a long time and would like to use it with a foreign SIM. And make that a central point in your item description.
2) Make it available to foreign customers: Unlike as in the US, in Europe, people are crazy for this phone. Foreign customers may give you more headache, but for Europeans, a strong Euro means everything bought from the US is really cheap. That means you can get your premium return, while the buyer is still happy.
3) Take loads of pictures of the phone: Be honest with the customer, how long have u been using it, any scratches etc .
4) Be open to offers: The way I got my phone was get in touch with a seller who didn't have any other bids yet and was willing to do a buy-it-now.
I guess that should be the best way to get your phone sold, but really, think about it.. its an amazing phone and is getting a lot of love at the moment from Motorola and Verizon.
Honestly, I love the phone.
I was only thinking of getting another android phone for a few reasons.
I am not too pleased with how small the Droid Pro community is compared to many other more popular android phones. I don't really wish to mess around with Roms just yet but I would like the opportunity to have some different flavors available. That said, I have not yet tried the official gingerbread.
I am not too pleased with the small screen. I honestly thought that it was big enough when I bought it, but now I think I might be better off with something a little bigger especially seeing that certain apps aren't quite geared toward the resolution the phone is running in e.g. DialerOne.
Finally, I thought that I could just get on a cycle of selling my subsidized phones and essentially upgrading for free so that I could potentially always have a "next-gen" phone without paying anything. Of course, that would mean that I should find a phone as good or better than this.
Thanks for your tips
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Honestly, I love the phone.
I was only thinking of getting another android phone for a few reasons.
I am not too pleased with how small the Droid Pro community is compared to many other more popular android phones. I don't really wish to mess around with Roms just yet but I would like the opportunity to have some different flavors available. That said, I have not yet tried the official gingerbread.
I am not too pleased with the small screen. I honestly thought that it was big enough when I bought it, but now I think I might be better off with something a little bigger especially seeing that certain apps aren't quite geared toward the resolution the phone is running in e.g. DialerOne.
Finally, I thought that I could just get on a cycle of selling my subsidized phones and essentially upgrading for free so that I could potentially always have a "next-gen" phone without paying anything. Of course, that would mean that I should find a phone as good or better than this.
Thanks for your tips
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As a Droid Incredible owner trolling in this forum, I have attempted to make people talk a lil more about the phone. This is a very good phone aimed more for business minded people (there are regular users of it too). Those people that have it were only waiting for Gingerbread to arrive, which it has. Don't be so down on the phone.
I have tried contacting a couple of the original Fission Rom guys to see what can be done for you guys as far as this new update goes. May not be promising but keep your fingers crossed.
Yeah I am also thinking of selling this Motorola phone for a few reasons.
1. The screen is too small, the resolution is too low and it has too much bezel / is recessed too much inside the phone.
2. There is no hardware camera button to take a picture on a phone with more keys than any of the other phones you produce. I mean come the **** on Motorola, you want to reach bankruptcy again I see.
3. Battery life is very poor if you're using the standard battery.
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Yeah I am also thinking of selling this Motorola phone for a few reasons.
1. The screen is too small, the resolution is too low and it has too much bezel / is recessed too much inside the phone.
2. There is no hardware camera button to take a picture on a phone with more keys than any of the other phones you produce. I mean come the **** on Motorola, you want to reach bankruptcy again I see.
3. Battery life is very poor if you're using the standard battery.
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Battery life with the extended battery is pretty piss poor too. The gingerbread update did help a bit though...the gingerbread update did fix a bunch of bugs that killed the pro.
The lack of hardware buttons is a huge negative as well. As for the screen, imo you can't really tell until you set your phone next to a droid or something with much higher pixel density. Other than that, if you compare the screen with a blackberry, it's much bigger and more usable.
Howdy,
Full disclosure - I plan to cross post this thread of different Android forums, so don't get irritated with me!
A little back story - I've been an Iphone owner since the beginning and truly love the Apple ecosystem. However, I started to get downright bored with the phone and the restrictions placed upon it. I'm sorry but if you are not "allowed" to even custom change your SMS tone what does that say? Plus....I have an Ipad
Now, I have the Samsung Infuse (AT&T) and I love it. However, I one that likes to have the latest and greatest and am willing to pay the money for it. Also, if I am going to be locked into AT&T for at least 2 years, I want a phone that is future proof. Now, I know the Galaxy S2 is suppose to come out soon, however, I am currently in my 30 day window and may not be able to wait that long. Therefore, my plan is to by the Galaxy S2 while I still keep my Infuse and test them both over the next 30 days.
With that said, I have a couple of questions:
1. I'm live in TN, so of course I will be buying unlocked to use on AT&T. What do I have to do to make the Galaxy work? Can I just put my current sim card into that phone?
2. What are the downsides to buying a phone unlocked? Who takes on the responsibility if something happens to it? I do plan to buy insurance.
3. Which vendor would you buy from? I'm leaning towards Amazon but am open to other options.
4. Have any of you all done a test drive as I plan to do but sent back because you didn't want? Will the company take it back?
5. Should I expect to have the same fast speeds with the S2 as I have now with the Infuse? or will there be a downgrade in service because it's unlocked?
6. S2, Infuse, or Iphone....that is the question?????
7. MOST IMPORTANT - How is call quality and GPS functionality. I need both to be on point.
9. Any app incompatibility issues with the phone? Gingerbread?
Thank you all soooooooooooo kindly for helping me. I appreciate it from the bottom of my heart.
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1. I'm live in TN, so of course I will be buying unlocked to use on AT&T. What do I have to do to make the Galaxy work? Can I just put my current sim card into that phone?
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Yes. It works out of the box. You can also save some money by telling AT&T you're replacing the Infuse with a Motorola Krzr and changing to the dumb-phone $10.00 per month unlimited data plan. Do a search for more info.
2. What are the downsides to buying a phone unlocked? Who takes on the responsibility if something happens to it? I do plan to buy insurance.
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You can't buy insurance. If you buy it from either Handtec or Clove in the UK or Expansys-USA it'll be covered by Samsung's two year warranty. All others, you're on your own.
3. Which vendor would you buy from? I'm leaning towards Amazon but am open to other options.
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See 2.
4. Have any of you all done a test drive as I plan to do but sent back because you didn't want? Will the company take it back?
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Since its not from a carrier there is no remorse period. You can only exchange it for defects.
5. Should I expect to have the same fast speeds with the S2 as I have now with the Infuse? or will there be a downgrade in service because it's unlocked?
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It should be the same.
6. S2, Infuse, or Iphone....that is the question?????
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I'm not your mother.
7. MOST IMPORTANT - How is call quality and GPS functionality. I need both to be on point.
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Good for me. I can't imagine it being much different than the Infuse.
9. Any app incompatibility issues with the phone? Gingerbread?
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Nothing specific or out of the ordinary has been reported. If there's apps that are critical for you post them and ask if others have used them successfully.
There are some other benefits. Since the phone's carrier unmolested there are no software or hardware changes made to it. You also get updates directly from Samsung which seem to be coming with incredible speed.
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Yes. It works out of the box. You can also save some money by telling AT&T you're replacing the Infuse with a Motorola Krzr and changing to the dumb-phone $10.00 per month unlimited data plan. Do a search for more info.
You can't buy insurance. If you buy it from either Handtec or Clove in the UK or Expansys-USA it'll be covered by Samsung's two year warranty. All others, you're on your own.
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Since its not from a carrier there is no remorse period. You can only exchange it for defects.
It should be the same.
I'm not your mother.
Good for me. I can't imagine it being much different than the Infuse.
Nothing specific or out of the ordinary has been reported. If there's apps that are critical for you post them and ask if others have used them successfully.
There are some other benefits. Since the phone's carrier unmolested there are no software or hardware changes made to it. You also get updates directly from Samsung which seem to be coming with incredible speed.
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Thank you Barry! Very helpful answers except for number 6! No. 4 is the reason I probably won't buy. I just don't want to be stuck with a phone I may not like. Decisions..decisions
Purchased mine from Handtec, and it was shipped right after it was released in the UK. I can't see myself ever buying another AT&T branded & neutered/downgraded subsidized phone ever again.
The phone is simply awesome. In a sense, this is the first time I've felt a device *could* last me longer than the usual 1 year refresh cycle. Reason for this is simply because of its sheer processing power. For instance, I just revised my framework-res.apk file last night to have the browser ALWAYS load the desktop version of websites instead of the dumbed down mobile websites that both Android and Apple devices default to. I can actually do this and live with the performance because unlike other phones, desktop version of websites on the SGSII are no slower than the mobile/wap versions... they are as fast and fluid as viewing them on a notebook computer. And, this is even before the SGSII's hardware is properly supported as I believe the current Gingerbread 2.3.3 OS doesn't fully support dual core quite yet.
The only downfall I see is what I'm experiencing with my 2 buddies (previous IPhone users) that I talked into getting an SGSII. Don't get me wrong, they love the phone and would never see themselves going back to Apple. But, they now have to rely on me to do a lot of the tweaking for them because editing system files, decompiling/editing/compiling apks, flashing with Odin... they simply aren't comfortable with all that yet, especially since Apple handed them everything on a silver platter (to which they blindly accepted everytime). They'll get there, but for the time being, I've been labeled the local Android Guru/Master/Swamy/etc.
Other than those points, I echo Barry's feedback verbatim. And, I do hope your Mom is more attractive than Barry, I can barely stand the sight of him on a good day.
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Thank you Barry! Very helpful answers except for number 6! No. 4 is the reason I probably won't buy. I just don't want to be stuck with a phone I may not like. Decisions..decisions
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I was kidding with 6. It's obviously a personal decision. See if anyone that lives near you or in a city that you travel to will let you play with theirs. I love my phone, it's rock solid, and can't think of anything I'd want instead. But again, that's just a personal opinion.
Not sure if anyone is interested but the nexus s for at&t, sprint, and t mobile is free today only on 2 year contract at best buy.
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Not sure if anyone is interested but the nexus s for at&t, sprint, and t mobile is free today only on 2 year contract at best buy.
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Also for upgrades, I was really tempted but I rather wait for Nexus 3 or what ever Nokia and MS brings to the table.
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Also for upgrades, I was really tempted but I rather wait for Nexus 3 or what ever Nokia and MS brings to the table.
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I am also really tempted but kinda wanna wait till the Nexus 3 as well. Very tempting though...
Problem I have, is that a new contract costs 20 bucks more a month for the same plan.over 2 years, that's 480 bucks.its only worth it if I can keep the same plan.
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Problem I have, is that a new contract costs 20 bucks more a month for the same plan.over 2 years, that's 480 bucks.its only worth it if I can keep the same plan.
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Heh, this is why I haven't signed a new contract in years. They'd force me to a plan that is $20-$25 a month more expensive (plus they don't even have unlimited data any more. I'm grandfathered in on unlimited). Over the course of a contract, it's cheaper to buy a phone out right then pay the high contract price and get even a completely "free" phone.
yawn..
This is how successful the Nexus S was: now they're giving them away. If it came cheap without a contract, I'd go pick one up. Nope, still rather have my N1.
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yawn..
This is how successful the Nexus S was: now they're giving them away. If it came cheap without a contract, I'd go pick one up. Nope, still rather have my N1.
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Tell you the truth I think the N1 was a flop for Google they wanted to move units like the Iphone and have their own Web store that idea went down the drain. they didn't know how to market the Nexus One to normal consumers after few months they wanted to sell it on mobile stores for people to see and test that never happen. finally it slowly faded away to just be a developer phone, I think this time Google wanted a company like best buy to do the whole process and have exclusivity if Goole would of thought of this we would still see the Nexus One being sold for free etc etc.
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Tell you the truth I think the N1 was a flop for Google they wanted to move units like the Iphone and have their own Web store that idea went down the drain. they didn't know how to market the Nexus One to normal consumers after few months they wanted to sell it on mobile stores for people to see and test that never happen. finally it slowly faded away to just be a developer phone, I think this time Google wanted a company like best buy to do the whole process and have exclusivity if Goole would of thought of this we would still see the Nexus One being sold for free etc etc.
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I think you're exactly right. The experiment that was the N1 was, in essence, a failure. Google may be big, but they don't have the computing experience Apple has. Apple users were already wishing for an iPhone product; but no one was hoping Google would release a phone. But this is what makes the N1 such a gem: it's been a completely underground developer's dream. The NS found itself in an odd place and was really to the N1 as the iPhone 3GS was to the 3G.
Yeah. The Nexus One is unknown to the common folk.
I'll get asked what phone I have and tell them a Nexus One. The response is always, with out fail, "A Nexus what?"
I kind of like having a phone no one else really has though.
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I think you're exactly right. The experiment that was the N1 was, in essence, a failure. Google may be big, but they don't have the computing experience Apple has. Apple users were already wishing for an iPhone product; but no one was hoping Google would release a phone. But this is what makes the N1 such a gem: it's been a completely underground developer's dream. The NS found itself in an odd place and was really to the N1 as the iPhone 3GS was to the 3G.
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Difference between google and apple is google is web base company people don't think of them as a software company for the same reason people had trouble knowing about android until verizon put the Droid stamp on. Googles marketing is too geeky for normal consumers 1ghz what? 2 speakers for noise cancellation what? Apples marketing twice as fast as your 3gs, Better graphics for Gaming, our top of the line speaker for calls period.
mrbkkt1 said:
Problem I have, is that a new contract costs 20 bucks more a month for the same plan.over 2 years, that's 480 bucks.its only worth it if I can keep the same plan.
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Yup, the math never works out. If you can actually keep a phone for two years and buy it without a contract you usually break even before two years, at least I did with my N1 although I bought a pair of those off Craig's List for $350 each.
GldRush98 said:
Yeah. The Nexus One is unknown to the common folk.
I'll get asked what phone I have and tell them a Nexus One. The response is always, with out fail, "A Nexus what?"
I kind of like having a phone no one else really has though.
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When I tell them that I have a Nexus One, they ask "Is that a droid phone?" I have to admit that most of the common folk associate the Motorola Droid commercials with Android phones. Those were pretty cool I must admit, but I'd never go with an NS over my N1. May be the TMo Hercules when it comes out, but nothing else has been enough of a jump in technology to make me move.
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I think you're exactly right. The experiment that was the N1 was, in essence, a failure. Google may be big, but they don't have the computing experience Apple has. Apple users were already wishing for an iPhone product; but no one was hoping Google would release a phone. But this is what makes the N1 such a gem: it's been a completely underground developer's dream. The NS found itself in an odd place and was really to the N1 as the iPhone 3GS was to the 3G.
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I am not sure I completely agree with this. To me, the NS was more of a sidestep than an actual upgrade over the N1. Sure, it had a bit faster processor and more flash, but there was no micro-sdcard slot and no notification led. I think they traded off some important features and put different ones in (and NFC implementation isn't widespread enough for me to consider it a feature just yet). Both phones are great, but I think I would still prefer my N1 over an NS.
And while the original thought behind the N1 and the webstore might've fallen short of what google expected, the N1 itself was considered a success by google (although the webstore was considered a failure). Why? Because they wanted to present to the world what phones could be capable of. 1GHz processors, 512MB of RAM... Essentially, they wanted to kickstart the "superphone" craze, which as you can now tell, was extremely successful. I mean, N1s are over 18 months old, but they still hold their own. Sure there are fancier and faster phones out there, but in a fast-paced enviornment like smartphones, it is pretty impressive that people are still considering buying an 18+ month old phone (and are extremely happy when they get it).
I do think the NS was an attempt at kickstarting the NFC (and to make the phone more retail/consumer friendly vs more of a niche/developer phone that the N1 was). I am hoping the N3 will be another push for new hardware and that it will be a true upgrade (in every sense - I am really hoping for another cardock and trackball) instead of a partial upgrade in some areas, but downgrades in others...
bassmadrigal said:
I am not sure I completely agree with this. To me, the NS was more of a sidestep than an actual upgrade over the N1. Sure, it had a bit faster processor and more flash, but there was no micro-sdcard slot and no notification led. I think they traded off some important features and put different ones in (and NFC implementation isn't widespread enough for me to consider it a feature just yet). Both phones are great, but I think I would still prefer my N1 over an NS.
And while the original thought behind the N1 and the webstore might've fallen short of what google expected, the N1 itself was considered a success by google (although the webstore was considered a failure). Why? Because they wanted to present to the world what phones could be capable of. 1GHz processors, 512MB of RAM... Essentially, they wanted to kickstart the "superphone" craze, which as you can now tell, was extremely successful. I mean, N1s are over 18 months old, but they still hold their own. Sure there are fancier and faster phones out there, but in a fast-paced enviornment like smartphones, it is pretty impressive that people are still considering buying an 18+ month old phone (and are extremely happy when they get it).
I do think the NS was an attempt at kickstarting the NFC (and to make the phone more retail/consumer friendly vs more of a niche/developer phone that the N1 was). I am hoping the N3 will be another push for new hardware and that it will be a true upgrade (in every sense - I am really hoping for another cardock and trackball) instead of a partial upgrade in some areas, but downgrades in others...
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I own both the NS & N1 and I use the NS much more than the N1 for 2 reasons:
1) NS has a much brighter, larger, responsive screen
2) NS has more storage space (I'm aware of simple2ext)
As far as NFC is concerned, sure it's not widespread but that doesn't matter. You can very cheaply purchase your own NFC tags and use this app NFC Task Launcher developed by an XDA member to basically do any function (it has Tasker support). I have a tag setup on my work desk that turns the phones screen off when I set it down. People put them in their cars as well. Very, very handy.
Not having notification LED sucks terribly though and I hope the iPhone 5 has one so Android OEMs will start adding them again..
It all depends on the user. Depending on what you use the phone for they could either be very similar or it could be considered a huge improvement.
I totally agree. Each user is different. My thoughts were my personal opinion. For me, it is necessary to have an sdcard slot so I can have my 32GB micro-sdcard installed (since mine is consistently sitting at 2GB or less freespace). I just wish that the NS was a total upgrade over the N1 rather than a partial one. I am really hoping that the N3 will quench my thirst for a new Nexus device.
I didn't realize all the stuff you can do with the NFC tags, so I will definitely be looking forward to that in a future phone.
crachel said:
As far as NFC is concerned, sure it's not widespread but that doesn't matter. You can very cheaply purchase your own NFC tags and use this app NFC Task Launcher developed by an XDA member to basically do any function (it has Tasker support). I have a tag setup on my work desk that turns the phones screen off when I set it down. People put them in their cars as well. Very, very handy.
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That is an AWESOME use of NFC. I always thought it was just a gimmick, but the ability to place tags in places like that is pretty cool. Place one in the bosses office so that tasker puts your phone on vibrate when you walk in!