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Right Decision?

Hey guys,
I wanted the nexus one ever since it first got announced. unforunately for the first month and a half it was exclusive with tmo bands. Come around March, i heard the ATT version was released and i told myself i was gonna get it. I put up my iphone 3gs and to my surprise, nobody bit. they were all trying to trade their iphones for the nexus one att version, just like i was.
fast forward to last week, i bought a htc desire (telus, so it works with att) from a friend. It was a awesome phone, but the nexus one bug was still inside me. Everytime i would see comparison videos against the desire, i would tell myself how pretty and attractive the nexus one is. I couldnt take it anymore, so i went on ebay, searched all day today, and than right when i thought all hope was lost, one ad popped up. "never used, refurbished by HTC Nexus One ATT". I did the BIN which was 425 with 15 dollar shipping. Now selling the desire for 550ish. My question is, with tech advancing so fast these days, did i make a good investment in buying a mint att nexus one for a whopping 425? or should i have waited for the dual core phones from samsung.
be brutally honest guys. and btw, the nexus one is going to share primary phone duties with my iphone 4.

I think it's worth it. The N1 is amazing.

worker1 said:
I think it's worth it. The N1 is amazing.
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I agree. The N1 is still the best all rounder phone (notification lights, great GPS receiver, perfect size). Unless you play very graphic intensive games on your phone...you'll be just fine without a dual-core processor. I just feel sorry for your poor iPhone 4..you're gonna be so mad at the little things it can't do like long kinetic scrolling in the browser, lack of configurable color LED notifications, flash in the browser, ability to change to different notification sounds....

In my opinion, currently, there is not a single phone that, in overall quality, surpasses the nexus one.
It's just "pure" - no UI additions, no craziness. Just solid, beautiful phone. Oh, and it just feels so good to the touch.
There are phones that has advantages over it here and there.. but overall, N1 is still the king of the hill for me.

It sounds like you made a little money selling the desire and getting the N1 so I guess it wasn't dumb. I personally think the desire is a bit cooler looking than the nexus so I would have kept that. They're basically exactly the same, right?
I really like my nexus one. Recently the battery life has even become better on the stock rom. However if someone was about to buy it now I would tell them not to bother. The touch screen sucks — it can only detect two points and gets confused doing that, it also gets messed up when the phone warms up in my car dock. The screen is also nearly impossible to see in bright daylight.
Not sure what android phone I'd prefer though. Wish there was a galaxy s with an HTC body.
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Remember that all the leaked Sammy devices are for T-MOBILE.
AT&T is in the process of switching bed partners from Apple to Microsoft. I count us AT&T users lucky that we got an AT&T banded N1 to begin with. Regardless of what the person with incredibly large hands may say about the Dell phones, the N1 is the best Android phone on AT&T and will be for some time until the next Dev phone makes its way (fingers crossed) to AT&T bands.
Until then, enjoy the BEST custom roms ever made right here at XDA. This phone gets better ever month, and next month when the customized gingerbread roms appear, it will be better again.

I totally agree my friend
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Not worth it, IMHO. Once you get it, post back and let us know how you like it, and if YOU feel you got your money's worth.

I think its not worth it. Don't get me wrong it's the best phone I have ever had. All the Sidekicks (1,2,3 and lx etc.), from there to g1 (great classic) and a N900 with a few other phones.
I traded my N900 and got an nexus plus $200 bucks. best deal ever !!!!!!!
I would not sale my nexus it's is the best phone out to me. Perfect build, and feel. Googles baby you just can't beat that.
AND THE BEST COMMUNITY FOR ANY PHONE KNOWN TO MAN.
A CLASSIC THAT NEVER DIES ..... CHUCK NORRIS LOL. j/k
But, if your not happy with your choice there always someone with that same burning feeling you had to get one that will pay 500+.

Great device but buyers remorse sort of...

After a full week with the Focus and an sd card no problems everything integrated and working to perfection. Speed is awesome and I love it, but I am having a little remorse. I have seen the specs on new phones coming out with the dual core tegras and front facing cameras am I wrong to doubt sigining a renewal with att for the focus? I am really on the edge because my TP2 was functioning fine and I was holding off for wp7 really but like I said I want my phone to have a fair amount of options front facing camera is probably coming soon, and I would like that for family and such, and really not missing the keyboard too much due to the awesome virtual keyboard (as good as the iphones). Anyone else feeling like this or have any suggestions or a roadmap of devices. I have until the 11 of december to return the device I have it armored up so it still looks new on return if the remorse grows. Thanks for your thoughts and ideas

I know how you feel, but, with this kind of mindset you would never buy any electronic equipment ever again because there is always something better just around the corner.
I love my focus - I am very impressed with the device, more so than I thought I would be.
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I know trust me
I work for a company that is a direct partner with intel so we get roadmap stuff like 3-6yrs down the road kind of hampers my building for myself until I am able to test. I guess that is what hurts me in PC world I get my hands on new stuff and get an idea, I miss my cellular job so much now. Just that like I said just a couple of options I would like (basically two cameras and maybe a keyboard), I was told by a rep that copy/paste should be released this week as well (don't know how true that is). Trust me I love my focus as well and so do my kids and netflix I think I have a resource I haven't used at Samsung and will see if anything new he knows of.

I have no buyer's remorse whatsoever with this phone. As you can see from my sig, I have owned many of the top phones (at their release) and I can say that I am the least wary of this purchase. As previously said, it's pretty futile to keep worrying about what's coming up next because even if you buy that, it will be outdated by the time you get it to your house. There's always something better coming.
As for a front facing camera, if it's a big selling point for you, then yeah, you may want to look into an iPhone 4 or the Nexus S when it drops(assuming you're stuck on AT&T and that the Nexus S comes to AT&T in some form). Personally, I feel like the Focus has surpassed many of my expectations and I can comfortably call it my phone/OS of choice now. I originally bought it on a whim on release just to see what WP7 was all about and I love the OS now, despite it's flaws which I expect to be fixed.

emjee87 said:
I have no buyer's remorse whatsoever with this phone. As you can see from my sig, I have owned many of the top phones (at their release) and I can say that I am the least wary of this purchase. As previously said, it's pretty futile to keep worrying about what's coming up next because even if you buy that, it will be outdated by the time you get it to your house. There's always something better coming.
As for a front facing camera, if it's a big selling point for you, then yeah, you may want to look into an iPhone 4 or the Nexus S when it drops(assuming you're stuck on AT&T and that the Nexus S comes to AT&T in some form). Personally, I feel like the Focus has surpassed many of my expectations and I can comfortably call it my phone/OS of choice now. I originally bought it on a whim on release just to see what WP7 was all about and I love the OS now, despite it's flaws which I expect to be fixed.
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With AT&T.. if you "want" to "cancel" service.. they will offer you options..an option..could be a new [email protected] new subscriber price...this is available every 8 months... this is a way to enjoy new hardware...which we all love...

scottazwork said:
With AT&T.. if you "want" to "cancel" service.. they will offer you options..an option..could be a new [email protected] new subscriber price...this is available every 8 months... this is a way to enjoy new hardware...which we all love...
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I've never gotten such an offer, even when I attempted to break contract about a year in just to see what I could settle with them. 3 people on my family plan have iPhone 4s and love them, plus my company gives us a pretty decent discount on our monthly rates (although it's still sky high with 6 data plans). Every time I've been tempted to just pay out the rest of my contract and go to Verizon, who has fantastic service in my area, something nags me back from doing it like the ability to use SIMs in other countries since there seems to be more worldphone options on AT&T or a new phone comes out that I want to play with (iPhone4, and now the Focus...)
In short, damn you AT&T

a little bit of persuading and you can get ATT to give you what you want.
I got the focus for free. I was using the captivate before that and am now deciding which one I like better

V DidDy 210 said:
a little bit of persuading and you can get ATT to give you what you want.
I got the focus for free. I was using the captivate before that and am now deciding which one I like better
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Ditto! except for the deciding part, I already figured that one out quick. I still had to pay a $35 restocking fee when I returned the Captivate, though. Despite telling them the GPS was completely f'd and I need it functioning for how I use the phone, which was advertised as having...GPS...

Should I get a N1 still?

So here's the deal:
I'm on AT&T, been using an Aria with CM 7 RC for awhile now. I had the Atrix 4g, but after some issues with data connection and figuring "better safe than sorry" when it came to the bootloader situation, I decided it just wasn't meant to be. Now I'm wanting something a little more after the atrix vs my Aria, but I'm still on AT&T for now (family plan), and am hesitant to extend my contract (Inspire is too big anyway)
So my question to you, users of the original Google phone: is it still worth it?
I figure I can buy a nexus one on ebay for ~$400 for AT&T's bands, and sell it again (or keep it because it's so cool) when its time for a new contract. Is it worth getting the N1 at this point or is it getting too heavily outclassed, even with development and the latest software, or is it still kicking strong and will last me until at least some quad-core LTE super nexus 3 comes out?
Thanks for hearing my rant and for letting me know!

Its lasted us this long so no reason why you wont still enjoy it too...

Keep an eye on the Marketplace forum here. You'll get a good N1 for less than $400.
They are still worth buying if you can get a bargain.

As the seasons change and I'm outside more and the sky is often brighter. The fact that the N1 screen isalmost impossible to see outside is really annoying. Unless you never go outside I'd say stay away from the N1.
Also, the touch screen is awful. Every game must have their touch controls in odd places for them to actually work on the N1. Really makes it feel like a crappy device.
I really do like my N1, but these things were reasons I probably should have returned it over a year ago. No way I'd recommend someone get it now.
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At $400, I wouldn't. Quick craigslist search shows several around the country at $200-$250. For that price I would, and if any were in my own backyard, I would probably grab a second one.

Yes its a nice phone. No I would not spend 400 for it now. Aria is a nice phone. Inspire is best deal at this moment. I don't see why u pick up a N1. U get custom roms on aria. If you want new device get a tablet. HTC flyer is on its way or Samsung tab will be out soon.
But don't get me wrong. I love my N1. It's just that their is nothing that interest me at this time. Maybe gte t-mobile g2x. It will be compatible with ATT and its dual core. The best part vanilla android. I wait though and see how it reviews.
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First, I LOVE my N1. I run the CM7 nightlies on it, I use Titanium Backup to yank core sys apps from the nightlies that I don't care about. I've got 155 apps on it (thanks to Apps2SD) and SetCPU is running the clock at just a little over stock speed.
And I get to do all that with hardly the hassle others complain of with their non-N1 phones.
The N1 will continue to hold the hearts of Devs for as long as there's nothing with better specs that's as open and easy to work with.
Yes, get an N1, but you can do better than $400 (unless that's including a car or desk dock). If/When Google comes out with a 'real' successor (sorry, a rebadged Galaxy-S isn't a true successor) just sell off the N1 and upgrade.

The N1 is no longer top in class. If you want a pure android feeling, the N1 I'd recommend. But if you want better, then I'm guessing go for the Nexus S... does the Ns have an Att version?
The best thing about N1 is that the OS is android, not some mesh of other bloatware and junk provided by the manufacture HTC, Motorola, and the service provider ATT, Verizon... Of course, you can root, and put on a custom rom, and that's all resolved anyway.
Just my opinion.

I'm going to have to go with yes.
If I lost or broke my N1 today, I would, without hesitation, start the hunt to buy a new one. Unfortunately I'm on AT&T so finding an AT&T 3G N1 isn't as simple as buying it from the Google Developer site, but I would probably snag one off feeBay.

I'd have to go with no...unless you can get it for 200-250. While it is a nice phone and holds well against these beasts nowadays I can't justify a purchase due to the lack of internal memory and the horrid "multi-touch" panel. I too am waiting for a true nexus successor (Nexus S? yea okay.) and hopefully I won't have to wait long but there are nice phones on AT&T running android so im sure the inspire would be a better pick...or hold out for a few more months for whatever monsters are announced following Google I/O

i still love my nexus one to death, and still cannot find anything on the market now that i consider better than the nexus one simply because of the whole package, color trackball, design and build quality and materials, etc. so i say you should go for the nexus one.

No. It's an awesome phone, but as others have said, it's not worth $400 a year after it's out.

I just bought one on Craigslist for 240

Good phone
I still consider a good phone at this moment and with a good price.

Just sold mine for $350 on Craigslist.
Figured that, since T-mobiles 1700 3g radio frequency is eventually going to be changed to Att LTE and the T-mobile Nexus One completely wont work once that happens, that every day I keep it is another day that the value will go down. Thought I better get out now and lock in my profit before others figure this out and start to flood Craigslist with cheaper prices.
hate. Hate. HATE to give up my $30 EvenMorePlus and $10 web2go but I'm not going to stay aboard a sinking ship and there are other options still out there for my price range of $40/month or less for a smartphone. I simply REFUSE to pay $60 - 70 per month purely on principle

jumped ship

So after 2 android phones I have gone to wp8,and honestly the deal breaker was the nexus 4 availability fiasco. Did some reading,and went to the T-Mobile store, and opted for a Nokia 810. Was pleasantly surprised when I used the phone at how fast it operated, also you don't have to hack the phone to remove bloat, anything loaded to the phone by tmobile can just be uninstalled.
still have the old g2 as a backup but I'm really enjoying wp8 for the moment.

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So after 2 android phones I have gone to wp8,and honestly the deal breaker was the nexus 4 availability fiasco. Did some reading,and went to the T-Mobile store, and opted for a Nokia 810. Was pleasantly surprised when I used the phone at how fast it operated, also you don't have to hack the phone to remove bloat, anything loaded to the phone by tmobile can just be uninstalled.
still have the old g2 as a backup but I'm really enjoying wp8 for the moment.
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To be fair, you're running a Windows phone. Windows lets you do whatever you want to do right out of the box (which explains why it's prone to virus infestations). Android, on the other hand, is Linux-based and...well, I explained it here two years ago.

I'm not knocking android, just nothing some of the differences i'm noticing immediately that I am finding to be nice. Downside is I have to pay 5$ a month for wifi tethering because nobody has created a work around yet.
I'm not planning on installing any virus's on my phone lol, didn't have virus protection on android and i don't plan on using it on this phone. That issue all together is more about common sense I believe.

How's the development community for it here on xda?
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danow11 said:
So after 2 android phones I have gone to wp8,and honestly the deal breaker was the nexus 4 availability fiasco. Did some reading,and went to the T-Mobile store, and opted for a Nokia 810. Was pleasantly surprised when I used the phone at how fast it operated, also you don't have to hack the phone to remove bloat, anything loaded to the phone by tmobile can just be uninstalled.
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Availability "fiasco"????
Because THAT SPECIFIC device is priced experimentally, you ran to an inferior platform? Seems extreme... there are lots of Android devices available.
Nexus 4 is an interesting situation. Google is breaking the rules with it, direct sales with a previously unimaginably low price. It is bound to have some seriously high demand.
Now your typical sales process works like this; you price the device relative to the demand that you expect. Increasing a device's price will have the effect of lowering demand for that device. Google could go ahead and price it $150-$200 higher. This would probably balance (approximately) the demand with the supply, so you would be able to get one if you wanted to. But instead, they're running an experiment and trying to impose a lower price level on the entire smartphone market.
Now you can bet that there are a lot of people figuring that they'll wait for availability and then buy it at that nice low price of $300. Other people are going to the various service providers, and demanding a better price for things that they're selling, based on their now lowered value perceptions. Carrier doesn't yield, customer walks. At least some of them do. Now the phone that I ended up purchasing was reduced in price TWICE, most probably as a direct response to Nexus 4. It was as high as $550, was reduced to $500, and then again to $400. Now I perceive the value of this one (samsung relay) as greater than nexus 4, because of the keyboard and external storage, which is why I was happy to pay the extra $100. I wouldn't have paid an extra $250 though.
So the question I ask myself is this; IF tmobile had kept the price at $550, what would I have done? The answer is this; I would have gone to nexus 4, and probably wouldn't have one yet. I'm OK with waiting. Not like the old phone didn't work any more.

HTC One vs Moto X (Verizon)

I'll be getting either the supposedly "blue" HTC One or the Moto X on Verizon by the end of this month. We all know the Moto X is slightly underspecced compared to the One but supposedly it's got a massive slew of new features and the PRICE tag equivalent to a dollar menu item at McDonalds compared to a Big Mac; assuming that you can get it from Google Play for Verizon. (Sorry for the run-on sentence)
Here's what will make or break my decision.
If the Moto X does these, I will not buy:
Lag: I will not tolerate anything less than buttery smooth like the HTC One
Camera: If the rear camera is a complete waste like the Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 4 camera.
Bad Battery life: I assume based on battery size and slower processor that this thing will have admirable battery life, but you never know
Quiet Speakers: This one is 50/50. If the external speaker(s) suck big time then I won't buy. But if it's at least as good as the iPhone5 then I will hold nothing against it.
Low Storage: I haven't read everything there is to know about it yet but this thing needs to have 32gb storage minimum, whether it's internal or achieved by an SD card, I don't care. It just needs to happen. I'm sitting at 4gb remaining as it is with my silver HTC One, lol.
Bad Screen: Here's the major kicker. I've read the rumors that the X will have 312ppi and our One's are rocking an incredible 468ppi. That's normally an indication of how great the screen will be in real life. If the screen looks obviously worse, then I'm going to just grab the Verizon HTC One and call it a day.
Feel free to add any other things that would make or break your decision between these phones. All the while keeping in mind that the X is a few hundred dollars cheaper.

You know as much as we do, why compare.
Keep in mind the One is also likely 2x the cost of the X, if the rumors hold true - so hopefully the One is better in most of those categories.

My opinion is this, it won't sound as good as the One due to the boomsound speakers, but I could live without them.
Same with PPI of over 450, there's basically zero difference over 300, so again, a wash for me.
Honestly, if the bootloader is unlocked and the battery is decent (better than the One), I'll probably switch to the X.
I hear the software optimizations are awesome on it as well.

I personally don't see a reason to consider the X if the One is within your budget. Sure the X may be better bang for the buck but I wouldn't settle for decent when I can afford great.

"Who wants to be a fireman?"
Why not add that to your ridiculous poll?

lol it is $200 on contract for AT&T (probably similar for Verizon). You can just get the One for the same price :laugh:

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lol it is $200 on contract for AT&T (probably similar for Verizon). You can just get the One for the same price :laugh:
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Yeah that just sealed the deal for me. What a flop. Looks like a blue One will be it,

Syn Ack said:
Yeah that just sealed the deal for me. What a flop. Looks like a blue One will be it,
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And i think i read that the 32 gb will be AT&T exclusive

killman2659 said:
And i think i read that the 32 gb will be AT&T exclusive
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As will the customizations.
I really had high hopes for this thing.
Hyped product is hyped.
:meh:

Boo, motorola dropped the ball from the sounds of it.
Definitely no reason to get it over the One, IMO. (Unless you really want to talk to your phone when it sleeps :angel

Man. And here I thought it would be a play device that would replace the nexus 4. Guess not. Although the notification system and the google now thing is pretty cool. I want that on my One.
Edit: I guess it will be released as a dev/unlocked device, but doubt the price would be anywhere near $300 if it's contract price is $250.

bbedward said:
Boo, motorola dropped the ball from the sounds of it.
Definitely no reason to get it over the One, IMO. (Unless you really want to talk to your phone when it sleeps :angel
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Agreed

Honestly, an HTC One Mini sounds better than Moto X.

What's hilarious is Motorola Mobility (a company owned by Google) won't be shipping the X with Android 4.3. Fragmentation is so bad on the Android platform that even a cell phone manufacturer owned by Google itself can't even get the latest version of Android on its own phones. I'm sure the US cell phone carriers are responsible, since it's coming out on all 4 major carriers. I'm not complaining or anything (4.3 is a relatively minor upgrade), I just think it's funny.

Dual core vs quad core you decide.
IMO this is a huge mistake from Moto.
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What's hilarious is Motorola Mobility (a company owned by Google) won't be shipping the X with Android 4.3. Fragmentation is so bad on the Android platform that even a cell phone manufacturer owned by Google itself can't even get the latest version of Android on its own phones. I'm sure the US cell phone carriers are responsible, since it's coming out on all 4 major carriers. I'm not complaining or anything (4.3 is a relatively minor upgrade), I just think it's funny.
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I agree that it is stupid that this phone doesn't ship with 4.3. You would think Motorola would've been the first company to receive an early final build of 4.3. IMO if anyone wants this phone just wait until they release the Google Play version of it (if it doesn't have 4.3 then that would be pathetic)
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I have waited months for the HTC One to come to Verizon I will not to turn back now. But really Moto X is a mid range phone, I want the best.

Too be honest, I am a little conflicted
Motorola should be commended for allowing customization on their phones (even if its just aesthetics). In my opinion every company should do this.
The specification are considered mid-range, for specification buffs this is disconcerning (and most of us here are spec buffs) but my question how much does it matter? My brothers Nexus 4 runs just as smooth as my HTC One and it has a slower processor. Dual Core vs. Quad Core, how many apps actually use all the cores?
720p vs. 1080p this will depend on if you can tell the difference. This is what I tell people when they compare screens, if you can't tell the difference there is no point of spending that extra money. The 720p def will save battery and allow the phone to run faster (less resources diverted to run the 1080p screen)
Active Display and Touchless Control do add unique functionality. Touchless Control will be really useful when driving. Active Display is definitely a good way to handle notifications and may increase battery life.
Price being the same gives the HTC One a huge advantage though. If the unlocked version is around the same price as the Nexus 4 then it could be worth it. But its somewhat unlikely since its made in the US (our minimum wage is $7.50 an hour while the workers in China usually get $1.50 an hour. HUGE difference here)
Though I feel Motorola is heading in the right direction. If they add options to customize CPU, RAM, Screen...etc. (which they can definitely do with their new Texas factory) or even options for different material panels (I know they are prototyping wooden backs at the moment) this will go somewhere. Price is the biggest problem right now and to be honest I'm not sure how they will be able to solve it.

I love the X, at the price point though I'd rather buy the One.
I think a lot of people feel the same way, but I certainly hope it succeeds anyway.
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regP said:
I personally don't see a reason to consider the X if the One is within your budget. Sure the X may be better bang for the buck but I wouldn't settle for decent when I can afford great.
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