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Radio update confusion.

I'm looking to update my Inc. to 2.2 but the ROMs suggest upgrading to radio 2.x. I'm pretty new to this and a little confused by the instructions.
The instructions I'm following are these
How to flash the 2.x radio.
Rooted
1. Download PB31IMG.zip and place it in the root of you SDCARD. Make sure the FS is FAT32, otherwise PB13IMG.zip will not flash.
1a. Link has been updated so you no longer have to apply the VZW exchange OTA.
2. Now go to the bootloader.
2a. Run 'adb reboot oem-42' if powered up or hold Power + Volume Down if your phone is off.
3. It should automatically start loading PB31IMG.zip. Then accept it when it asks you to load it or not (pretty sure Vol Up).
4. You are now completely stock. You should remove PB31IMG from your SDCARD now.
5. Download dinc_ota.zip, rename it to update.zip and place it in the root of your SDCARD.
6. Now boot into recovery and apply the zip.
6a. adb reboot recovery if powered up or Power + Volume Down then select Recovery.
6b. Now hit Power + Volume Up to bring up the Recovery menu.
6c. Now select apply update.zip
7. Go to Settings > About phone > Software information > Baseband version and verify that it's 2.05.00.06.11.
8. Now download and run Unrevoked 3 to reroot and install ClockworkMod recovery.
9. Now you can go ahead and do a Full Wipe then install the Stock Froyo rom.
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I'm actually lost right away with making sure the FS is Fat32, what is the FS and how do I check this
After that I assume I'm rebooting in Bootloader, is there a difference between that and bootin in recovery?
I guess I'm just looking for a walkthrough in lay mans terms.

Maybe format size? When you hook the drive up to the pc, go to my computer, locate the sd card, right click and then format. It gives you an option to format in FAT32, make sure its checked. Then format.
Place the PB31IMG.zip at the root of the sd card.
Go into bootloader and the file will be checked by the phone then ask you if you want to update. Yes.
Reboot.
Enjoy.
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FS == File System. htc_woe_is_me is spot on with what to do.
I believe if you're going to use the 2.15x radio ... you need to make sure you are S-Off using hte Unr3voked Forever tool.
If you're using the 2.05x radio, you should be fine without going S-Off

Okay, lets start with the basics. Fs is file system. There are different types of file systems. Fat32 and ntfs are common. You format your SD card as fat32, cause that is what's best for your phone. The SD card that came with your phone should be good to go. Before you follow these instructions you must be sure to accompolish a few things.
1)First you must be rooted. Unrevoked has the one stop root tool.
2)Next you must perform the unrevoked forever tool. This tool will grant you nand access allowing your radio to be updated..
have you performed these steps?
I Dont want to flood you with instructions if you aren't fully ready yet
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qmartman711 said:
Okay, lets start with the basics. Fs is file system. There are different types of file systems. Fat32 and ntfs are common. You format your SD card as fat32, cause that is what's best for your phone. The SD card that came with your phone should be good to go. Before you follow these instructions you must be sure to accompolish a few things.
1)First you must be rooted. Unrevoked has the one stop root tool.
2)Next you must perform the unrevoked forever tool. This tool will grant you nand access allowing your radio to be updated..
have you performed these steps?
I Dont want to flood you with instructions if you aren't fully ready yet
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Yes both those steps have been completed.

htc_woe_is_me said:
Maybe format size? When you hook the drive up to the pc, go to my computer, locate the sd card, right click and then format. It gives you an option to format in FAT32, make sure its checked. Then format.
Place the PB31IMG.zip at the root of the sd card.
Go into bootloader and the file will be checked by the phone then ask you if you want to update. Yes.
Reboot.
Enjoy.
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I'm on a mac, it says the format of my SD Card is "MS-DOS - Fat16" no sign of how to change it though

jaredkent said:
I'm on a mac, it says the format of my SD Card is "MS-DOS - Fat16" no sign of how to change it though
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Macs are for people that just "want things to work*". If you wish to tinker (ie. learn and have fun), get a PC.
If you REALLY want to get into tinkering/hacking**/learning, skip windows and go straight to Linux. It won't be easy, but you will learn skills that are incredibly valuable***.
* - By that, I mean people that want their computers to hold their hand and think for them.
** - Search for computer hacking on wikipedia before you make any bad assumptions (sorry, I still can't post links).
*** - Why yes, I am a well paid Linux admin with incredible job security, why do you ask?

DracoDan said:
Macs are for people that just "want things to work*". If you wish to tinker (ie. learn and have fun), get a PC.
If you REALLY want to get into tinkering/hacking**/learning, skip windows and go straight to Linux. It won't be easy, but you will learn skills that are incredibly valuable***.
* - By that, I mean people that want their computers to hold their hand and think for them.
** - Search for computer hacking on wikipedia before you make any bad assumptions (sorry, I still can't post links).
*** - Why yes, I am a well paid Linux admin with incredible job security, why do you ask?
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That was the stupidest post I've ever read in my entire life. You're paid too much whatever you do.

I think you can format it thru disk utility. My mac knowledge is very little though, try Googling it?
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jaredkent said:
I'm on a mac, it says the format of my SD Card is "MS-DOS - Fat16" no sign of how to change it though
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qmmartman711 was correct: Go to your utilities folder and open the Disk Utility app. Click on the disk that you want to reformat (it will appear in the left pane). In the right pane there will be options (First Aid, Erase, RAID, Restore). Click on the Erase tab/button. From there you'll see an Entry near the middle of the window that says 'Format' with a drop down list. If it already says MS-DOS(FAT) you're in good shape. Fill in the name you want the volume to have and press Erase.
BTW: In response to an earlier quote about Mac/PC/Linux. Macs are at their core BSD/Unix you can drop down to a shell any time and do whatever you want.

So I formatted it to FAT32 and placed the file in the root of my sd card, the problem is when I run bootloader it doesn't automatically do anything. Both the directions I'm following and the guys in this post say it should automatically open the file but thats not happening.
Any thoughts?

any ideas?

Berzerker7 said:
That was the stupidest post I've ever read in my entire life. You're paid too much whatever you do.
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I agree for the most part I build PC's and only recommend them because It brings in money. I personally use a Mac. I agree that PC's give you more bottom level access but 90 percent of what you can do on a PC you can do with MAC. Dont hate on us MAC users!

Kipphh said:
I agree for the most part I build PC's and only recommend them because It brings in money. I personally use a Mac. I agree that PC's give you more bottom level access but 90 percent of what you can do on a PC you can do with MAC. Dont hate on us MAC users!
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It's not the fact that he hated on Mac users, it's just the specifics of what he wrote. But we digress.

Once you get onto the boot loader (get to boot loader by simultaneously pressing the power and volume up button) and wait a little bit it should ask for confirmation to update phone. Just press volume up button to confirm and there you sucesfully updated your phone.
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I just realized that my phone is no long reading my SD Card, I think after reformatting it, it started with the problems. That might be why it's not picking up the update.
Not I can't put anything on my SD Card when I plug it into my computer, I get a Mac error code -8003. Looks like I ruined my SD Card? Guess I'll pick up a new one, load my back up onto it and just go back to stock.

Why don't you format the card from your phone? That way it will definitely be recognizeable.
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qmartman711 said:
Why don't you format the card from your phone? That way it will definitely be recognizeable.
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That didn't even cross my mind. That worked as easily as you'd expect. I think I'll be restoring it to stock, since I can't figure out the radio thing. With SkyRaider 2.5.2 I tend to have times when 3G just doesn't work at all, and my internet is dead. I'm going to assume that has something to do with the radio upgrade. So I'll just downgrade back to 2.1 and wait it out.
Thanks for all the help guys.

Sorry you had to revert back to stock. Some people claim their radio updates give them better service. Some say less Service... Haha, I have the same service. But anyway, let me know if you wanna try again, skyraider and cm6 are awesome roms, and I'd hate for you to miss out!
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I found a couple great YouTube videos that helped me if you still want to try it. I just rooted for the first time yesterday and I'm loving it.
It won't let me post the link cause I'm new but just search for incredible ota.
There is more to it than just getting into recovery. This guy walks you through it. If you are already rooted there's another file you have to do first PB something.
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[PROJECT] /cache as RAM

Well i had an idea since we don't use the /cache partition, well i don't i was thinking we could use it as RAM.
Any ideas are welcome

LOL no ideas huh.....
Me either.... i wont give up tho i know for sure there is a way...

Hi
If you want a challenge try to get senors working on cm7.
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how would that effect the ability to download market apps if its not available?

mchlbenner said:
Hi
If you want a challenge try to get senors working on cm7.
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Its built on Korean right... lol i haven't even looked at it yet.... i would really like to get a fully 100% kick ass pure android working first.....
Call it a learning experience.
Because everything i know i learned here watching guys like Mz and KhP.
i need to get this finished first..
still imagine unlocking 100mb of ram bro.... cause thats what the /cache is man swap or RAM if i get that unlocked ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

mrmako777 said:
how would that effect the ability to download market apps if its not available?
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Go away kid you bother me............
no effect.... no relevance for that matter LOL
but maybe you could help me.....
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
And if they did.... what about if they accidentally the whole thing?

mrmako777 said:
how would that effect the ability to download market apps if its not available?
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hellmonger said:
no effect.... no relevance for that matter LOL
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I don't know about that. In other ROMs, with the Dalvik on /cache larger apps, e.g. Angry Birds, wouldn't download (not enough space) when the /cache partition was to full.

You could maybe make a swap file on /cache (and an additional swap file on /data) and throw in some of the other useless small partitions. But that's still going to require fastboot.
I like using /cache for /data/dalvik-cache though and I used to get pretty close to filling it. CyanogenMod is sort of nice in that it will actually split the cache between /cache/dalvik-cache and /data/dalvik-cache with /cache/dalvik-cache holding the system apps and /data/dalvik-cache holding the downloaded cache.

3rdstring said:
I don't know about that. In other ROMs, with the Dalvik on /cache larger apps, e.g. Angry Birds, wouldn't download (not enough space) when the /cache partition was to full.
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I was reading today on reddit that some people divert /cache to the sdcard so that large downloads work. I haven't tried it though.

Mioze7Ae said:
I was reading today on reddit that some people divert /cache to the sdcard so that large downloads work. I haven't tried it though.
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Hmm.. Dunno about this one as well. but I never had that error, and I usually download the ROMs via my phone.

good luck! then we wont have to partition our sd card for swap anymore! possibly better battery life than swap on sd as less power is needed too!

Before you judge I'm running iceandfire 3.0 overclock at 900 and getting 13,566 to 14,000.
This build is stupid fast.
One issue sensors no big deal you can't do it I will find someone who can.
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hellmonger said:
Go away kid you bother me............
no effect.... no relevance for that matter LOL
but maybe you could help me.....
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
And if they did.... what about if they accidentally the whole thing?
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Like 3rd string mentions, cache size determines the size of an app you can download from the market as the market uses /cache as a repository to download/install apps...at least that's what I've noticed
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mchlbenner said:
Before you judge I'm running iceandfire 3.0 overclock at 900 and getting 13,566 to 14,000.
This build is stupid fast.
One issue sensors no big deal you can't do it I will find someone who can.
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come on he wasnt saying he did not want to help... cant you read what Hellmonger said carefully? anyway, wouldnt it be good if you could use cache as swap? makes things more complete now that there are already so many good roms for our phone. since we are almost making 2.2 perfect, why not just do a little more, instead of leaving it there and starting to work on 2.3 where theres much more work left to do...

So i think Mz has the right idea..
But do we really have to set it up as swap the whole point ois to get this set up as ram so we dont have to fast boot anymore....

mrmako777 said:
Like 3rd string mentions, cache size determines the size of an app you can download from the market as the market uses /cache as a repository to download/install apps...at least that's what I've noticed
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The app will be downloaded to /sdcard/Download folder

kernel dont have swap support, so you can't use it from kernel layer. maybe you may find some swap functions in dalvik virtual machine layer, but I don't sure is there any

fjfalcon said:
kernel dont have swap support, so you can't use it from kernel layer. maybe you may find some swap functions in dalvik virtual machine layer, but I don't sure is there any
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still no luck...
my goal is to stop the whole fastbot thing and use that cache partition as RAM, i already know how to set the download cache directory to SD card
on my ROM it's already implemented...
/cache as Ram.....

We really need to pull our bootloaders and decomplile them to see if there's a way to do the fastboot ourselves. The people that have looked the hardest at the bootloader are on Milestone A853, but according to them they don't have a working "fastboot boot" so that code pathway is missing from their studies.
What we need to find out is what the pathway through the bootloader is that ends up with booting a custom boot.img from RAM (i.e. does fastboot boot go through the entire boot stack or not and if it does how does it convince it to skip the check). In other words I have two mental two models for how fastboot works:
Model 1
Start boot process
Read flags that direct boot to fastboot
Load and execute fastboot bootloader
fastboot reads kernel from USB into memory
fastboot continues boot using the kernel in memory
Model 2
Start boot process
Read flags that direct boot to fastboot
Load and execute fastboot bootloader
fastboot reads kernel from USB into memory
fastboot sets up the phone for boot of the memory-loaded kernel
fastboot restarts boot process
Read flags that direct boot to load and execute the kernel from RAM
So the question is which one is correct? Does fastboot boot continue the current boot process, or does it alter the next boot? That's the big question. If it's model 2, here's an outline for a possible attack:
Attack for Model 2
Normal boot of blessed kernel through sh_hijack.sh
hijack loads a new kernel from the phone into memory
hijack sets up the phone for boot of the memory-loaded kernel
hijack set boot flags for fastboot boot
hijack restarts boot process
Boot memory loaded kernel
So how do we figure out if XT720 uses #1 or #2?
FYI: these are the A853 decompiled bootloaders: https://gitorious.org/droid/reversed (see the asm folder inside the source tree--we need this for XT720 so that we can understand what fastboot boot is doing)

I believe a 2nd had beem complied but it would not boot radio and we don't have a baseband made.
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Windows 8 Release Preview upgrading

how can i upgrade to Windows 8 Release Preview without erasing hard drive?

you need to make a separate partition and then install windows 8 via usb stick or cd.

dual boot installation
dual boot installation is the best way to go. partition/shrink a part of your hardrive and start installing ur windows 8 onto that.

The installation doesn't erase unless you tell it to, it moves everything to C:\Windows.old (it does this even if you pick "keep nothing")
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ShadowEO said:
The installation doesn't erase unless you tell it to, it moves everything to C:\Windows.old (it does this even if you pick "keep nothing")
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indeed, although the wording does make you wonder if it will or not!

dazza9075 said:
indeed, although the wording does make you wonder if it will or not!
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I know, I went to install it, it looked through my installed stuff than gave me the keep nothing and I was like FUUUUUU-!
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Ubuntu installed, now windows 8.1 installation?

It says I cannot install windows 8.1 because ubuntu doesn't use ntfs partition but ext4. How can I do a clean install of windows 8.1?!
Thanks in advance
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Uh, reformat? The Windows installer can format the partition for you. I actually recommend deleting all the partitions and just having Windows create its own partition scheme in the resulting unallocated space (which it will do automatically if you tell Windows to install to that space).

GoodDayToDie said:
Uh, reformat? The Windows installer can format the partition for you. I actually recommend deleting all the partitions and just having Windows create its own partition scheme in the resulting unallocated space (which it will do automatically if you tell Windows to install to that space).
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I cannot click reformat in windows installer. And I have 2partitions: one bootable (297Gb) and one 'logical' (3Gb), what does the logical mean, and is it safe to delete?
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Thatgrass said:
I cannot click reformat in windows installer. And I have 2partitions: one bootable (297Gb) and one 'logical' (3Gb), what does the logical mean, and is it safe to delete?
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I think your partitions show dynamic in status Windows is not install on dynamic partitions so
Backup you date
Delete all partitions and create new partitions use Windows disk then install
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vaibhav1 said:
I think your partitions show dynamic in status Windows is not install on dynamic partitions so
Backup you date
Delete all partitions and create new partitions use Windows disk then install
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Is it safe to remove every partition? How can I create a new one, I only have a bootable USB with win 8.1.
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... if you can't figure out how to use the Windows installer partitioning tool, I really can't recommend that you try installing an OS from scratch. It's the most ridiculously-simple tool of it's kind I've ever seen. It has options like Create [Partition], Delete, Resize, and Format. It's graphical and mouse-driven. Even the so-called "Advanced" configuration just shows a few more extremely basic functions.
As I already told you, just deleting all the partitions and then letting the Windows installer set the drive up the way it wants to is possibly the best option. You can get a trivial amount more free space if you tweak the volume sizes, and a separate boot value isn't technically required if you're never going to enable BitLocker on the system, plus there are reasons to use other custom partitioning schemes... but in general, that's just asking for trouble. The defaults are very good. Just use them.

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... if you can't figure out how to use the Windows installer partitioning tool, I really can't recommend that you try installing an OS from scratch. It's the most ridiculously-simple tool of it's kind I've ever seen. It has options like Create [Partition], Delete, Resize, and Format. It's graphical and mouse-driven. Even the so-called "Advanced" configuration just shows a few more extremely basic functions.
As I already told you, just deleting all the partitions and then letting the Windows installer set the drive up the way it wants to is possibly the best option. You can get a trivial amount more free space if you tweak the volume sizes, and a separate boot value isn't technically required if you're never going to enable BitLocker on the system, plus there are reasons to use other custom partitioning schemes... but in general, that's just asking for trouble. The defaults are very good. Just use them.
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Sorry, I'm just scared for crashing my pc, and in the installer, the format button was there, but it was grey:not clickable. So for confirmation, it's safe to delete all partitions? I will still be able to boot from USB and install it?
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Got it! Thanks for your help!
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I'd have been curious to know what the "Show Details" indicated, but it sounds like you got it working anyhow. Glad to hear it!
By the way, booting off USB is determined by the BIOS/EFI. It has nothing to do with the hard disk. You can boot off USB without even having a hard disk installed at all.

GoodDayToDie said:
I'd have been curious to know what the "Show Details" indicated, but it sounds like you got it working anyhow. Glad to hear it!
By the way, booting off USB is determined by the BIOS/EFI. It has nothing to do with the hard disk. You can boot off USB without even having a hard disk installed at all.
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Thanks man, couldn't have done it without you!
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Backtrack ubuntu linux on mb860 olympus atrix 4g

This is NOT native ubuntu, THATS why i wanted it. You can use CYANOGENMOD roms and this will just load like a normal app, or a normal terminal. Or in my case provide me with a capable server in my pocket. Thjs js so cool imo. Because i can run all the old perl scripts directly on my phone... People can use my little perl scripts right from my pocket! I like this!
I use android 2.3 but after i got it on 2.3 i factory reset, installed multiple other roms, including ICS roms and it all worked. But alot of cool features backtrack has to offer seem to require lots of reconfiguration on 4+. i recommend android 2.3 nutrino rom i got it all working godly on there. Without editing the boot.img once... Or rly anything..
This runs as an app and the app "changes" the "root" directory. So basically its a little hack, its not native ubuntu.
I heard people telling me my phone cant run arch linux or ubuntu and i beg to differ.
Here is the only link i used to get a full blown capable (whatever) in my pocket.
http://stuffresearch.tor.hu/?p=245
After your done. Download a vnc client app to use the graphical interface (startx X.org desktop)
After your done with that download a ssh server app (that way your ubuntu chroot will be able to navigate android filesystem)
The vnc server and ssh server do not need to route trafic to your lan nor internet.

leathan said:
Sorry for the repost, idk how to move threads. I heard people telling me my phone cant run arch linux or ubuntu and i beg to differ.
I can write a full guide and post my scripts to help but this link may be enough.
http://stuffresearch.tor.hu/?p=245
After your done. Download a vnc client app to use the graphical interface (startx X.org desktop)
After your done with that download a ssh server app (that way your ubuntu chroot will be able to navigate android filesystem)
The vnc server and ssh server do not need to route trafic to your lan nor internet.
After you got it on your phone i recommend... Unlocking ALL the arm repositories and deleteing the bloat packages cause you wont have alot of room.
I get 2gb of room for ubuntu apps after removing bloat.
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perhaps this is what ppl were talking about when they said that to you? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2078919 not really sure, i'm more of a stock rom/cm rom kind of guy myself. Ubuntu is still too new for me on a computer for me to consider it for a rom on a phone

Thank you for link.
But I don't see what I can do with Linux on my phone.
What is your motivation to run it? What useful thinks you can do with it?

Girafik said:
Thank you for link.
But I don't see what I can do with Linux on my phone.
What is your motivation to run it? What useful thinks you can do with it?
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idk, that's why I stick to the CMs, stock ROMs, and other custom mod's along those lines.

I hope you guys read this.....
You can do almost anything you can on normal ubuntu... And it does not load unless you load it.
Honestly if you dont need ubuntu or a useful linux dont get it. But with this u can run linux binaries that are generally common.... And not just the tiny subset that busybox brings. But a giant giIant giant giant giant awesomeness
For example i love loading firefox and runnng the same addons that i run on my pc on cellphone.
I also love being anle to send my phone shell commands directly AND HAVE BINARIES that make that useful. (I can write perl scripts to automate it all now, powerfully)
For example you can run wireshark to sniff data.... You can really do anything ubuntu can do.
Usually downloading linux distros onto your phone *for chroot is very easy. But since backtrack is so big i needed an extra step which i couldnt find untill i read this link. I was very great-full to that guy. I hope he can help someone else thru me. Because i needed backtrack on my phone yes or yes.
I can now fully program using emacs directly on my phone (i connect a computer keyboard to my phone) but for me its always been a dream to have a real computer in my pocket that i can use to program and run real internet browsers and diagnose networks. Believe it or not i stay legal, very ironically
I know how nerdy that sounds, but theres a hacker in all of us, and this makes your phone a weapon.
Tbh most people wont even want this. But those who do will be so happy to know that they cAn hack the image to under 4gb and hence can run it on their phone. It just all works right out the box.
Just look at what ubuntu can do and if u rly rly want that and it works on the phone install this.
I think im going to do my own directions and make it two steps.
That way people will just click click and see for themselves what new things they can do.
THIS DOES NOT DELETE YOUR CM ROM. YOU CAN RUN THIS SIDE BY SIDE TO YOUR ROM, AND EVEN HAVEA. DUAL BOOT SETUP + THIS.
Its fully compatible to work side by side because ita a chroot not a real install

palmbeach05 said:
idk, that's why I stick to the CMs, stock ROMs, and other custom mod's along those lines.
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You can use this and stick to your cm rom.

Girafik said:
Thank you for link.
But I don't see what I can do with Linux on my phone.
What is your motivation to run it? What useful thinks you can do with it?
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You have linux already on your phone. Android runs on linux. Thats why chroot is so easy i think
This is about backtrack ubuntu. Linux comes when you buy the phone.
I tried typing "what useful things can ubuntu do" into google
But that wasn't helpful lol...

palmbeach05 said:
perhaps this is what ppl were talking about when they said that to you? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2078919 not really sure, i'm more of a stock rom/cm rom kind of guy myself. Ubuntu is still too new for me on a computer for me to consider it for a rom on a phone
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This isnt a rom though. Im not knowledgeable in this area but i think since your running chrooted the android system still occupies the read only memory. I might sound dumb but i this is not in any way a rom. It fully sits in your REAL INTERNAL "sdcard" memory. Unless you load it ^.^ it auto closes when u close the terminal.. Atleast it shud
I believe that would be the case if you were to run ubuntu natively... Aka delete android.

leathan said:
I tried typing "what useful things can ubuntu do" into google
But that wasn't helpful lol...
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If you had to Google something like that you probably have no clue what BackTrack means or what it is meant for and should avoid following this guide anyway.
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Sorry for insulting you. But I have was programming nearly a decade before ubuntu even existed. It is a mere derivative, and backtrack is just a set of tools.
Google is powerful, you can hack with google. Googling what ubuntu is good for is perfectly ok imo, nothing to do with much.
Im NOT in IT... BUT I code 29 hrs a day average, atleast i try.
Si pensas que ubuntu esta correlacionado con la habilidad de programar estas en la ironia.

I dont see how any human would not like just having backtrack ubuntu on their phone ^.^
Even if i did not know already know all the tools.... You can just read... Or something ^.^
That guide was like 1 step from what i had done off the top of my head also... -.-

Not mean at all. But usually a programmer or someone in the IT industry knows what backtrack's purposes are. I am afraid I was just expressing an opinion in an open forum and didn't mean to come out as insulting or hurtful. Instead, I was trying to avoid you causing damage to your phone by venturing into the unknown. Calling someone dumb on the other hand IS insulting.
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leathan
hi
i have a question
i ve done all steps until 1st run of boot bt script by adb
my sh bootbt perfoming with many errors
it tells about lack of root access and "cant find directory .."
what kind of linux distributive do u use for adb, i think it may be related with my usb live linux version (dont want to install it)

USSRxAZ said:
leathan
hi
i have a question
i ve done all steps until 1st run of boot bt script by adb
my sh bootbt perfoming with many errors
it tells about lack of root access and "cant find directory .."
what kind of linux distributive do u use for adb, i think it may be related with my usb live linux version (dont want to install it)
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can you send me the full output you got when you ran bootbt? Maybe also the android VERSION and the bootbt source but first read bellow.
When you finish all the editing and you upload the /BT5 folder to your cellphone. are you sure your putting everything in the INTERNAL SDCARD. And also try moving all installed apps out of INTERNAL SD and into INTERNAL MEMORY. (I think i read somewhere somekid had to remove the real sdcard also... I dont see why lol, and i didnt have too.
Then you should just load up a teminal emulator on android and type: su and then sh bootbt. You said you did "sh bootsh" from adb. I did it from phone. But once the script runs it shouldnt matter where its invoked from so long as your running as root?
Try typing adb root first from pc.
Or type su first from terminal emulator on your phone.
To reply to mot.a.troll.... Im sorry im dumb and take suddle things like that as a big insult because i really dont think knowing about ubuntu or even backtrack. Is a requirement for this or for following that guide. I am damiliar with unix... Believe it or not. And i am DEFFINITLY not in IT, idk what "it" even means whaha. All i enjoy doing is programming when i was a kid in basic, and now 90% just perl all day (for many many years)
Ill edit my insult to u since your right, and its because im dumb and get offended. I wish i never even knew what ubuntu was period lol, but setting it all up manually is hard work and i just needed things working lol

I dont think the problem has anything to do with your linux distro or adb. Im 99.999999999% sure lol

Hacker ? Backtrack? *cough* , gentoo based linux for arm next time but nice effort.
Fyi backtrack really seems ok for live cd wifi stuff, but as phone had no promiscuous mode on wifi driver, whats the point ?
Just an off note, if u want linux on atrix this badly then why not chip in with porting ubuntu touch.
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i ve tryed it again with other ROM and sdcard placement but i m gettin same errors (no directory's, cant mount etc)
sry i havent posted log again
p.s.
Gentop2 (Gentoo) is the best experience i had with atrix and linux at all
I wish i have a dream what somebody will compile newer and better version than 05092013 but it wont happen i guess.

JustSueMe said:
Hacker ? Backtrack? *cough* , gentoo based linux for arm next time but nice effort.
Fyi backtrack really seems ok for live cd wifi stuff, but as phone had no promiscuous mode on wifi driver, whats the point ?
Just an off note, if u want linux on atrix this badly then why not chip in with porting ubuntu touch.
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Sorry if me being a hacker offends you or your definition of it. Personally idgaf.. my current job basicaly implies i atleast write clever enough perl to make money lol...
And for your off note... This may sound very "ignorant".. but i HATE the owners of ubuntu. and hate how closed it is. I would never help them.
Also about the promiscuous mode, I wasnt even aware phones had no promiscuous capable wifi drivers... are you sure? Either way I dont see why you NEED it for the plethora of tools offered to you just by downloading an .img file.... I understand gentoo is alot better... but i have no time? This took me 30mins... because i literally copy pasted the commands and then waited...
use your brain? I could hack on windows, ios, android, ipad, unix, linux, pickyourfavorite here... hacking is an abstraction above the operating system imho *cough* *noob* ...and chrooting android PERIOD. gives OBVIOUS benifits.
the link i found is an extremelly easy way to make it work

USSRxAZ said:
i ve tryed it again with other ROM and sdcard placement but i m gettin same errors (no directory's, cant mount etc)
sry i havent posted log again
p.s.
Gentop2 (Gentoo) is the best experience i had with atrix and linux at all
I wish i have a dream what somebody will compile newer and better version than 05092013 but it wont happen i guess.
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if you get an error like /local/data/mnt/ no such directory
then that means you just have to create that directory... and try again.
otherwise post your logs.
Remember what i wrote as a first reply too.

leathan said:
Sorry if me being a hacker offends you or your definition of it. Personally idgaf.. my current job basicaly implies i atleast write clever enough perl to make money lol...
And for your off note... This may sound very "ignorant".. but i HATE the owners of ubuntu. and hate how closed it is. I would never help them.
Also about the promiscuous mode, I wasnt even aware phones had no promiscuous capable wifi drivers... are you sure? Either way I dont see why you NEED it for the plethora of tools offered to you just by downloading an .img file.... I understand gentoo is alot better... but i have no time? This took me 30mins... because i literally copy pasted the commands and then waited...
use your brain? I could hack on windows, ios, android, ipad, unix, linux, pickyourfavorite here... hacking is an abstraction above the operating system imho *cough* *noob* ...and chrooting android PERIOD. gives OBVIOUS benifits.
the link i found is an extremelly easy way to make it work
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My definition of "hacker" is someone that manages to create a tool or find a way to overcome an obstacle that wasn't supposed to be passed, such as wifi passwords. in this sense, just by using someone elses tools doesn't put you into the category of hacker.
I see chroot can have a benefit, but not by much as it depends on the android os. As 95+% of androids wifi drivers are closed with no promiscuous mode then the generic way of wifi hacking isn't possible. Correct me of I'm wrong but I'm going to assume that's why u want backtrack
Noob? Im have a ubuntu touch port up and running already and. With custom kernel this gives much more benefit over a chroot .
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